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Tom4784
05-06-2019, 10:13 PM
The Trump administration is said to be cancelling English lessons, legal aid and other vital services for unaccompanied migrant children in US custody.

The office of refugee settlement, a part of the department of health and human services that claims it is designed to new populations “maximise their potential in the US”, said it was stopping services deemed “not directly necessary for the protection of life and safety”

This included “education services, legal services, and recreation”, department spokesman Mark Weber told The Washington Post.

The office of refugee settlement was created in 1980. Its website says its mission is to help “new populations maximise their potential in the United States by linking them to critical resources that assist them in becoming integrated members of American society”.

Neither the office, or the department of health and human services, immediately responded to enquiries on Wednesday. However, Mr Weber told the Post that federal officials had warned Congress they were facing “a dramatic spike” in unaccompanied minors at the southern border and had for $2.9bn in emergency funding to expand shelters and care.

Because of this, the programme could run out of money in late June, and the agency was legally obligated to direct funding to essential services, Mr Weber said.

The revelation about the cancellation of funding of the English lessons and other services, comes as Mr Trump is seeking to present a firm stance of immigration as he prepares to defend his presidency in 2020.

Last week, he threatened to impose tariffs of five per cent on Mexico if it did not do more to stop the flow of migrants. The overwhelming majority of those arriving at the US’s southern border have been arriving from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, where they are seeing to escape lack of economic opportunities and gang-driven violence.

More recently, there has been a jump in the number of people leaving Venezuela amid political turmoil and economic meltdown. The situation in the country appears to have been made more difficult by the imposition of US sanctions.

On Wednesday, a White House trade advisor and a leading Republican senator said Mr Trump’s plan to impose tariffs on Mexican goods might not go into affect.

Peter Navarro told CNN the tariffs, due to come into force next week, might not be needed because Washington now had “the Mexicans’ attention” on stemming illegal immigration.

The Post said more than 40,800 unaccompanied children have been placed into US custody after crossing the souther border with Mexico border this year, a 57 per cent increase from last year.

It said an average of 12,500 children and youths were held in federal shelters nationwide in April, according to government data. They stayed an average of 48 days until a case worker could place them with a sponsor, usually a relative.

Helena Olea, a human rights advisor to Alianza Americas, a network of Latin American and Caribbean groups in the US, said the so-called Flores Agreement of 1997 that set set policy for the detention of minors, said the government must provide education and recreational facilities.

“This is also the start of the process of preparing those young people to integrate into the US,” she told The Independent. “By doing this, the Trump administration is saying it does not want those children to be here. It’s going to result in a mental health crisis for the those unaccompanied minors.” https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-migrant-children-english-lessons-soccer-aid-us-border-mexico-immigration-a8945741.html

The treatment of migrant children by the Trump administration has been an utter disgrace. Ripped away from their parents in their thousands, more child deaths in custody than ever before and now this.

'Don't come to our country to our country unless you're willing to speak english! Oh you want to learn? TOUGH ****!' Grotesque and not providing children with legal aid is just beyond disgusting given the abuses that are taking place in these camps that these children are being held in.

The Trump administration will be known for bringing shame upon the US when it's all said and done, it truly will.

The dehumanisation of children is just beyond the pale.

Matthew.
05-06-2019, 10:16 PM
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Kate!
05-06-2019, 10:19 PM
Omg. That is disgraceful. I dislike Trump the more I hear.

Twosugars
05-06-2019, 10:49 PM
What a mean heartless bastard

arista
06-06-2019, 03:00 AM
The treatment of migrant children by the Trump administration has been an utter disgrace. Ripped away from their parents in their thousands, more child deaths in custody than ever before and now this.

'Don't come to our country to our country unless you're willing to speak english! Oh you want to learn? TOUGH ****!' Grotesque and not providing children with legal aid is just beyond disgusting given the abuses that are taking place in these camps that these children are being held in.

The Trump administration will be known for bringing shame upon the US when it's all said and done, it truly will.

The dehumanisation of children is just beyond the pale.



Yes Illegal migrants
including children are not wanted.

Elliot
06-06-2019, 04:40 AM
Let’s see how trump supporters will twist it this time

Alf
06-06-2019, 05:02 AM
Let’s see how trump supporters will twist it this timeEasy! It's CNN

bots
06-06-2019, 05:16 AM
As everyone knows, i'm not a Trump supporter at all, but I'm right behind him on this. Why on earth should a country spend money educating people who have illegally entered the country? By all means feed and house them until they can be repatriated, but that should be the end of it.

Ammi
06-06-2019, 05:29 AM
...how superior his white American values are that they hold such contempt for children...

joeysteele
06-06-2019, 07:18 AM
...how superior his white American values are that they hold such contempt for children...

The man is an International disgrace.
How anyone admires him is beyond me.

Such divisiveness and as you say contempt, even towards children, should be all that's needed to see the cruel bigotry and lack of any compassion in that individual.

Horrible man, the probable worst US President ever.
The way he abuses power for his own discriminatory ends.

Crimson Dynamo
06-06-2019, 08:36 AM
First of all this is a "said to" article so not confirmed.


Good news, wasting money and this will be a popular move in the USA for many many tax payers

"Border Patrol announced Wednesday morning that it detained more than 132,000 people at the border last month — around 11,000 of which were children travelling alone."

"Tasked with sheltering a “growing number” of unaccompanied minors, federal officials say they are seeking a $2.9 billion appropriation from Congress. Stauffer said the program is “on pace to run out of funding and will need supplemental funding.”

"the immigration influx at the southern border has created critical budget pressures."

"More than 40,800 unaccompanied children have been placed into HHS custody after crossing the US-Mexico border this year, a 57 percent increase from last year that is putting the Office of Refugee Resettlement on track to care for the largest number of minors in the program’s history."


Easy to criticise when you are not paying for this illegal migrant Crisis..

chuff me dizzy
06-06-2019, 08:37 AM
As everyone knows, i'm not a Trump supporter at all, but I'm right behind him on this. Why on earth should a country spend money educating people who have illegally entered the country? By all means feed and house them until they can be repatriated, but that should be the end of it.

Im 100% behind him too !! as Ive said since he was sworn in I wish our politicians had his balls ,think how much better off we would be ,hes put America first and I applaud him

Kazanne
06-06-2019, 08:37 AM
Easy! It's CNN

Fact,:joker::joker: and we are told that its us that gets sucked in, CNN hate him so will always post bad stuff about him,doesn't mean it's true.I never believe tabloid or media fodder I can makeup my own mind,I am not a huge fan,but I can see when someone is just targeted for who they are.

Smithy
06-06-2019, 09:16 AM
Fact,:joker::joker: and we are told that its us that gets sucked in, CNN hate him so will always post bad stuff about him, doesn't mean it's true.I never believe tabloid or media fodder I can makeup my own mind,I am not a huge fan,but I can see when someone is just targeted for who they are.
I-

What?

Are you saying that they’re lying about it? :skull:

Crimson Dynamo
06-06-2019, 09:21 AM
I-

What?

Are you saying that they’re lying about it? :skull:

Spinning a rumour as they have a daily quota of anti-trump articles to achive

Livia
06-06-2019, 09:24 AM
I wish there was the same outrage aimed at the leaders of the countries the illegals are leaving.

Crimson Dynamo
06-06-2019, 09:27 AM
If you research this "article" its a piece written by the Washington Post (based on one email taken somewhat out of context and with no proper journalism around it - that has been picked up word for word by a slew of left leaning anti trump media and used principally to trigger their audience for shares, likes and ad revenue

Its a cynical piece of capitalism and they are using children as bait

its quite vile

Livia
06-06-2019, 09:31 AM
If you research this "article" its a piece written by the Washington Post (based on one email taken somewhat out of context and with no proper journalism around it - that has been picked up word for word by a slew of left leaning anti trump media and used principally to trigger their audience for shares, likes and ad revenue

Its a cynical piece of capitalism and they are using children as bait

its quite vile

The press are always recycling stuff because they're generally lazy and prefer something where the legwork has been done already. I've never written a press release that hasn't been published word for word. Is that because I'm the world's best writer? No. It's because generally the press are lazy idlers.

joeysteele
06-06-2019, 09:37 AM
Funny how the media saying negatives to Trump are fake news and likely lying to some.
.
Yet the media, Daily Mail and Sun for example, and their bile, re say Corbyn is gospel to most of the same people.

Unbelievable.
I won't use the other appropriate word.

smudgie
06-06-2019, 09:39 AM
I would be interested to know how old these children are.
Are they the similar age to the 14 year olds going on 30 that shammed their way here?
Are they little children that have gone walkabouts from their parents and mistakenly crossed the border?
How and why on earth do tens of thousands of children cross the border on their own?

Liam-
06-06-2019, 09:40 AM
Funny how the media saying negatives to Trump are fake news and likely lying to some.
.
Yet the media, Daily Mail and Sun for example, and their bile, re say Corbyn is gospel to most of the same people.

Unbelievable.
I won't use the other appropriate word.

Hypocrisy? I’ll use it

Northern Monkey
06-06-2019, 09:50 AM
As everyone knows, i'm not a Trump supporter at all, but I'm right behind him on this. Why on earth should a country spend money educating people who have illegally entered the country? By all means feed and house them until they can be repatriated, but that should be the end of it.

Yeah this really.
For genuine migrants who’ve entered legitimately then they obviously should have all the rights of every other citizen.

If they’ve sneaked accross the border illegally then why should the country’s tax payers be footing the bill to educate them?
That will just encourage more illegal immigration and dangerous journeys.
The flow will keep increasing until it’s unmanageable.
Where’s the limit?

Tom4784
06-06-2019, 11:15 AM
The way Trump has his supporters pretty much turning their heads away from facts is terrifying.

More migrant children have died in US custody in the past year than ever before. FACT.

The government are cancelling english lessons for these children and thus violating the Flores agreement. FACT.

The law that allowed for the separation of children from their guardians was a law created in the Obama administration and was only enacted in situations in which the Border services believed that the children were being trafficked. Within the entirety of Obama's administration there was only a few tens of children at most separated from their guardians compared to the thousands since Trump has taken office. FACT.

At the end of the day, these are children and the dehumanisation and villainisation of them by the right is ****ing gross and inhumane.

Tom4784
06-06-2019, 11:16 AM
As everyone knows, i'm not a Trump supporter at all, but I'm right behind him on this. Why on earth should a country spend money educating people who have illegally entered the country? By all means feed and house them until they can be repatriated, but that should be the end of it.

Because it forms part of the Flores agreement.

Crimson Dynamo
06-06-2019, 11:24 AM
I would be interested to know how old these children are.
Are they the similar age to the 14 year olds going on 30 that shammed their way here?
Are they little children that have gone walkabouts from their parents and mistakenly crossed the border?
How and why on earth do tens of thousands of children cross the border on their own?

yep, it would be very naive to think this was innocent 10 year olds fleeing a war...

Tom4784
06-06-2019, 12:19 PM
yep, it would be very naive to think this was innocent 10 year olds fleeing a war...

Because it makes it easier to villainise children if you pretend they are adults trying to cheat the system.

Crimson Dynamo
06-06-2019, 12:22 PM
Because it makes it easier to villainise children if you pretend they are adults trying to cheat the system.

Its the age old trick all over the world, we had it in the UK and we had the hand wringers like Gary Linker saying "oooh wont someone think of the children"

he shut his trap when it was discovered they were hairy ar$e adults

chuff me dizzy
06-06-2019, 12:22 PM
St Obama deported over 2.5 MILLION people

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661

Crimson Dynamo
06-06-2019, 12:24 PM
oof

Tom4784
06-06-2019, 12:30 PM
Its the age old trick all over the world, we had it in the UK and we had the hand wringers like Gary Linker saying "oooh wont someone think of the children"

he shut his trap when it was discovered they were hairy ar$e adults

It's something that's overblown in order to demonise children. Were there adults trying to cheat the system during our own immigration crisis? Certainly, but it's not common enough to suggest that most migrants are actually adults posing as children. That is a ridiculous generalisation.

St Obama deported over 2.5 MILLION people

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661

How does this change the fact that children are dying in car parks turned into tent cities that are meant to hold children in poor conditions? Undrinkable water, poor sanitation etc. You've brought up something completely unrelated in order to brush the death and abuse of children under the rug.

The only real link that Obama has to this story is that the law that the Trump administration is abusing came from Obama's administration and was, during his time, rarely used because it wasn't abused. This isn't about people being deported, it's about children being denied rights that were established by US law.

reece(:
06-06-2019, 12:32 PM
Funny how the media saying negatives to Trump are fake news and likely lying to some.
.
Yet the media, Daily Mail and Sun for example, and their bile, re say Corbyn is gospel to most of the same people.

Unbelievable.
I won't use the other appropriate word.

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