Coleen Nolan displays repulsive ignorance

[Samm]

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sack this cow :fist:

[montblanc]

aaah she's so tragic :skull:

[Liam-]

I’m pretty sure she got in trouble for that when it happened

[Parmy]

She should join the bbc

[joeysteele]

It's all she's done ever since she became famous.
She's terrible.

[Epic.]

*reads title 'Coleen Nolan displays repulsive ignorance'*

Erm what else is new? :laugh:

[Parmy]

*reads title 'Coleen Nolan displays repulsive ignorance'*

Erm what else is new? :laugh:



Her lips?

[Oliver_W]

aww I wanna see what she looked like!

[LaLaLand]

What's new?

[Greg!]

Nothing this vile hag does surprises me anymore

[Ant.]

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sack this cow :fist:

she couldn't have just said this 29 months ago in the CBB house COULD she?

[Tom4784]

She is gross, a bigoted piece of ****.

[Livia]

What a ridiculous over-reaction. This kind of thing minimises real cases of racism.

[Firewire]

What a ridiculous over-reaction. This kind of thing minimises real cases of racism.

This is real racism.

It might be minor, but it's still racism.

[Livia]

This is real racism.

It might be minor, but it's still racism.

Because she said her sister used to tie her bunches so tight she looked Oriental? Don't be ridiculous. Have there been any complaints from Oriental people? No. Of course not. Just a little bunch of white people who don't like Colleen Nolan and have taken this as an opportunity to call her names.

[Firewire]

Because she said her sister used to tie her bunches so tight she looked Oriental? Don't be ridiculous. Have there been any complaints from Oriental people? No. Of course not. Just a little bunch of white people who don't like Colleen Nolan and have taken this as an opportunity to call her names.

She's mocking the eyes of Asian people, that is racism.

I have no idea who complained about it, it happened in 2015.

[Livia]

She's mocking the eyes of Asian people, that is racism.

I have no idea who complained about it, it happened in 2015.

And now it's in serious debates, four years after the event, simply because people here don't tend to like her. If it really was a racist incident someone would have complained at the time, surely? And why is it never a person from the race being "ridiculed" who does the silly name calling? Probably because they understand the concept of the intention to insult, which there clearly wasn't here.

[Firewire]

Do we have any Asian members on here?

[Livia]

Do we have any Asian members on here?

Who knows? I was speaking generally.

[Parmy]

She's mocking the eyes of Asian people, that is racism.

I have no idea who complained about it, it happened in 2015.

Did she mock the eyes of an Asian or describe what they looked like?

[Tom4784]

The term 'oriental' to describe people is typically seen as offensive and pulling back the skin around your eyes to 'look asian' is also incredibly insensitive.

It's pretty open and shut. At best she's completely ignorant but given her previous comments on homosexuality, I'm more inclined to believe she's just an well rounded bigot.

[Samm]

What a ridiculous over-reaction. This kind of thing minimises real cases of racism.

who gave you the authority to decide what is real racism and what isn't?

[Samm]

for the record I had no idea this was old popped up on my twitter timeline :shrug:

[Livia]

who gave you the authority to decide what is real racism and what isn't?

Oh I'm sorry, it's your job, is it?

I've suffered real racism in my life, been spat at, called names.... how about you? What are your own experiences?

[bots]

repulsive ignorance is pretty strong. She didn't appear to be lacking in education (ie ignorant) in that short clip and i'm not really sure that ignorance can even be described as repulsive ... so ... well ... erm

[Livia]

repulsive ignorance is pretty strong. She didn't appear to be lacking in education (ie ignorant) in that short clip and i'm not really sure that ignorance can even be described as repulsive ... so ... well ... erm

It's because they don't like her.

[Elliot]

I’m shook to the core!! Would’ve never expected this from her!!

[Oliver_W]

Making a fuss over this really is mountains and mole hills...

[Mitchell]

It’s incredibly racist.

[Mitchell]

It’s incredibly racist.

[Parmy]

It’s incredibly racist.

Why?

[Mitchell]

Why?

She is mocking the appearance of oriental people and their eyes, how is that not racist?

[Liam-]

She wasn’t exactly mocking it, at most she was insensitive, purposely racist or bigoted? Don’t buy it.

Although it’s to be expected now, everything questionable she has ever said will be dug up by obsessed gays that hate her, to attack her with, even if she’s apologised and everyone’s moved on

[Kazanne]

Oh c'mon have we never done the rhyme Chinese,Japenese,dirty knees,lol I know we have and moved the eyes up and down.I'm not keen on her but really this is an overreaction.

[Mitchell]

She wasn’t exactly mocking it, at most she was insensitive, purposely racist or bigoted? Don’t buy it.

Although it’s to be expected now, everything questionable she has ever said will be dug up by obsessed gays that hate her, to attack her with, even if she’s apologised and everyone’s moved on

Quite truthfully if this was a one off, I’d probably think differently, but there’s been so many occasions where she has been repulsive, that I can only come to the conclusion that she’s a horrible individual (and I liked the woman at one point)

[Parmy]

Oh c'mon have we never done the rhyme Chinese,Japenese,dirty knees,lol I know we have and moved the eyes up and down.I'm not keen on her but really this is an overreaction.

Look at what...lol.

[Parmy]

Quite truthfully if this was a one off, I’d probably think differently, but there’s been so many occasions where she has been repulsive, that I can only come to the conclusion that she’s a horrible individual (and I liked the woman at one point)

I detest the flappy mouthpiece.....

But as soon as she said it we all knew what she meant...does that make us racist too?

[Kazanne]

Look at what...lol.

:joker::joker::joker: Oh you know the rhyme Parmy,:laugh:

[Parmy]

:joker::joker::joker: Oh you know the rhyme Parmy,:laugh:

Yes...as did my drunken granny one night in 76...I swear it's either that or sand in sandwiches that has ****ed me up.

[Parmy]

She is mocking the appearance of oriental people and their eyes, how is that not racist?

She was pulling her skin to the side to show everyome what she meant......do you think there's something wrong with having eye's that look like that?...cause unless you do I can't really see a problem here!

[Glenn.]

Repulsive woman. When will she just **** off?

[Tom4784]

Oh I'm sorry, it's your job, is it?

I've suffered real racism in my life, been spat at, called names.... how about you? What are your own experiences?

Livia, are you seriously trying to gatekeep racism and turn how much abuse you've suffered into a competition?

[Elliot]

Some of the stuff she comes out with is so bizarre, like when she said she’d send her son to Amsterdam to sleep with a prostitue if he passed his GCSEs :skull:

[Livia]

She wasn’t exactly mocking it, at most she was insensitive, purposely racist or bigoted? Don’t buy it.

Although it’s to be expected now, everything questionable she has ever said will be dug up by obsessed gays that hate her, to attack her with, even if she’s apologised and everyone’s moved on

Exactly.

[Greg!]

Oh c'mon have we never done the rhyme Chinese,Japenese,dirty knees,lol I know we have and moved the eyes up and down.I'm not keen on her but really this is an overreaction.

Can’t say I ever have? Maybe back in the dark ages but nowadays we don’t tend to say racist rhymes for fun

[Northern Monkey]

Never heard that “oriental” was racist :shrug:
In fact i’m sure i’ve heard it used as a style of doing eye makeup before.
Seems like people looking to be offended again tbh.

[Northern Monkey]

Oh c'mon have we never done the rhyme Chinese,Japenese,dirty knees,lol I know we have and moved the eyes up and down.I'm not keen on her but really this is an overreaction.

I do actually remember this at school :laugh:

[joeysteele]

I don't care how old her comments are.
She was truly awful in both CBBs she was in.
A filthy foul mouth and bigoted views.

She's a horrible, insulting and offensive individual on Loose Women.

In fact it seems to run in the Nolans.

She's talentless and not worth the time of day.

[Matthew.]

Quite truthfully if this was a one off, I’d probably think differently, but there’s been so many occasions where she has been repulsive, that I can only come to the conclusion that she’s a horrible individual (and I liked the woman at one point)

Agree with this entirely

[Kazanne]

I do actually remember this at school :laugh:

:wavey::laugh:it was pretty daft but harmless fun

[Kazanne]

Can’t say I ever have? Maybe back in the dark ages but nowadays we don’t tend to say racist rhymes for fun

Any excuse for some to have a snidey swipe reactions like this make the forum unhealthy and unfriendly but hey ho, nothing racist about it except for those who love to moan about everything and anything, we didn't even know what racist was then as it wasn't on our minds, maybe you should stop being ageist !!!

[Cherie]

Any excuse for some to have a snidey swipe reactions like this make the forum unhealthy and unfriendly but hey ho, nothing racist about it except for those who love to moan about everything and anything, we didn't even know what racist was then as it want on our minds, maybe you should stop being ageist !!!

:fan: so true, its not like kids were singing it to be racist :laugh:

[Parmy]

Any excuse for some to have a snidey swipe reactions like this make the forum unhealthy and unfriendly but hey ho, nothing racist about it except for those who love to moan about everything and anything, we didn't even know what racist was then as it want on our minds, maybe you should stop being ageist !!!

Spot on .....the Chinese Japanese or even my dirty knees were the last things on my mind when I heard this

[Parmy]

Never heard that “oriental” was racist :shrug:
In fact i’m sure i’ve heard it used as a style of doing eye makeup before.
Seems like people looking to be offended again tbh.

A point that needs highlighted.

[Kazanne]

Spot on .....the Chinese Japanese or even my dirty knees were the last things on my mind when I heard this

:laugh::laugh: some people miss out on so much fun,too busy being offended.

[Parmy]

:laugh::laugh: some people miss out on so much fun,too busy being offended.

I know..I can't stand her but it's not like she was wishing harm on people.:shrug:

[sleleen]

Y’all need to get a grip if you are trying to make up excuses and saying it’s not bad!

[Greg!]

Any excuse for some to have a snidey swipe reactions like this make the forum unhealthy and unfriendly but hey ho, nothing racist about it except for those who love to moan about everything and anything, we didn't even know what racist was then as it wasn't on our minds, maybe you should stop being ageist !!!

Where was I ageist babe? Clutching at straws are we?

You asked a question like "Who can honestly say they HAVEN'T sung racist songs and made slitty eyes for a laugh" and I simply replied that maybe it was acceptable in the olden times but certainly not now!

[joeysteele]

The point is, on lots of topics now today.
People do have to be careful of what they say.

What was acceptable decades ago is not now.

Saying something today no matter how harmlessly meant can get you into big problems.
If it's of another nationality or race.

You can near be branded racist, anti Semitic, or even of terrorist intention just on simple comments or who you may be looking at online as to organisations.

There used to be a figure on jam jars decades ago that is now banned.

Sadly, even commenting on a leader or government of a Country now can have you deemed as being against that whole Nation or people.

Whether we've all got too edgy or lost humour.
The fact is, it is easy to get into all sorts of difficulties now, for the slightest even throwaway comment.

Even as to things said probably decades ago too.

Then the likes of Nolan using her celebrity status to spout offensive rhetoric.
Doesn't help at all either.
Even worse she may get supported.

[King Gizzard]

Horrid

[Kazanne]

Where was I ageist babe? Clutching at straws are we?

You asked a question like "Who can honestly say they HAVEN'T sung racist songs and made slitty eyes for a laugh" and I simply replied that maybe it was acceptable in the olden times but certainly not now!

Firstly there was no need to answer in a patronising way , but I get you have no other way,secondly I am 41 if that was supposed to be an insult you were way off, it's nowhere near 'The olden days' besides you said the dark ages,short memory there, those were not my words and you know it I never mentioned slitty eyes , nor did I mention singing racist songs, YOU made it racist ,I didn't .

[Marsh.]

:wavey::laugh:it was pretty daft but harmless fun

Harmless to the white lady who is not the butt of the joke? :smug:

[Parmy]

Where was I ageist babe? Clutching at straws are we?

You asked a question like "Who can honestly say they HAVEN'T sung racist songs and made slitty eyes for a laugh" and I simply replied that maybe it was acceptable in the olden times but certainly not now!

Nobody described anything as slitty eyes but you....and that word is a really really negative descriptive word in this instance.
Can you change it please it's pretty offensive.

[Parmy]

Harmless to the white lady who is not the butt of the joke? :smug:

The tit of the joke would be more apt..

[Kazanne]

Harmless to the white lady who is not the butt of the joke? :smug:

Oh stop it ,we were but kids,the colour of skin never entered our heads ,plus the punch line to the rhyme was nothing to do with colour ,shape of eyes ,etc, it was fun because it was a tad rude and naughty ,simple as that c'mon marsh your better than this.

[Parmy]

The point is, on lots of topics now today.
People do have to be careful of what they say.

What was acceptable decades ago is not now.

Saying something today no matter how harmlessly meant can get you into big problems.
If it's of another nationality or race.

You can near be branded racist, anti Semitic, or even of terrorist intention just on simple comments or who you may be looking at online as to organisations.

There used to be a figure on jam jars decades ago that is now banned.

Sadly, even commenting on a leader or government of a Country now can have you deemed as being against that whole Nation or people.

Whether we've all got too edgy or lost humour.
The fact is, it is easy to get into all sorts of difficulties now, for the slightest even throwaway comment.

Even as to things said probably decades ago too.

Then the likes of Nolan using her celebrity status to spout offensive rhetoric.
Doesn't help at all either.
Even worse she may get supported.




I will happily be branded as any one of those as long as I don't get arrested for saying what I say.


So if I'm not getting arrested for saying things...isn't it then harrasment to be labelled as these things?

[Twosugars]

Where was I ageist babe? Clutching at straws are we?

You asked a question like "Who can honestly say they HAVEN'T sung racist songs and made slitty eyes for a laugh" and I simply replied that maybe it was acceptable in the olden times but certainly not now!
Well said
And this attitude "oh it was ok back then so it must be ok now" is beyond the pale

[Daniel-X]

Where was I ageist babe? Clutching at straws are we?

You asked a question like ’’Who can honestly say they HAVEN'T sung racist songs and made slitty eyes for a laugh" and I simply replied that maybe it was acceptable in the olden times but certainly not now!

I’ve been screaming at this for a good five minutes

[Kazanne]

I’ve been screaming at this for a good five minutes

Gregs words not mine , making mountains out of molehills again.pfft

[joeysteele]

I will happily be branded as any one of those as long as I don't get arrested for saying what I say.


So if I'm not getting arrested for saying things...isn't it then harrasment to be labelled as these things?


No it's not harassment and that's a ridiculous conclusion with respect.

People do get in trouble for loose talk.
Lose careers and are pilloried in the media too, when their full and proper identities are known.

You may choose to possibly be happy to be branded, ( your words that not mine), racist, anti semitic whatever.
I certainly wouldn't..
It's not something I'd want to brag about or ever be myself.

[Greg!]

Firstly there was no need to answer in a patronising way , but I get you have no other way,secondly I am 41 if that was supposed to be an insult you were way off, it's nowhere near 'The olden days' besides you said the dark ages,short memory there, those were not my words and you know it I never mentioned slitty eyes , nor did I mention singing racist songs, YOU made it racist ,I didn't .

Excuse me YOU are the one that said you ‘moved your eyes up and down’ to impersonate Asian people not me??? All I said was that no one really does it in the modern world and it’s not really acceptable nowadays?

[Twosugars]

Gregs words not mine , making mountains out of molehills again.pfft

Of course bc you're not the target so it doesn't matter

You were quick to scream ageism though

[Parmy]

No it's not harassment and that's a ridiculous conclusion with respect.

People do get in trouble for loose talk.
Lose careers and are pilloried in the media too, when their full and proper identities are known.

You may choose to possibly be happy to be branded, ( your words that not mine), racist, anti semitic whatever.
I certainly wouldn't..
It's not something I'd want to brag about or ever be myself.

I think the jo brand incident when you compare it to the danny baker incident as well as other things that I need to fact check first kind if shows that a debate is worthy wether or not certain things are seen as "isty" depending on the subject matter or who is saying the things.


Bit I'm not happy about being branded as this or that to be fair, but its a corner I've been sent to....but I'm not ever going to face the wall over it

[Elliot]

Some of the posts in this thread are a tad worrying

[Marsh.]

The tit of the joke would be more apt..

Leave poor Kaz alone! :oh:

[Marsh.]

Oh stop it ,we were but kids,the colour of skin never entered our heads ,plus the punch line to the rhyme was nothing to do with colour ,shape of eyes ,etc, it was fun because it was a tad rude and naughty ,simple as that c'mon marsh your better than this.

I never suggested you were a racist child. A childish rhyme is a childish rhyme.

I was responding to you, now, as a grown woman, saying categorically that it's not offensive.

[Livia]

Y’all need to get a grip if you are trying to make up excuses and saying it’s not bad!

And y'all need to stop making ridiculous and tenuous claims of racism only on the strength that it came from someone you dislike. It minimises real racism people suffer.

Oriental just means "from the East". Like Occidental mean "from the west". Neither is an offensive term. Great job getting all outraged on other people's behalf.

[Livia]

I never suggested you were a racist child. A childish rhyme is a childish rhyme.

I was responding to you, now, as a grown woman, saying categorically that it's not offensive.

Yes, we all know there are lots of people NOT from the Orient telling us that it's offensive. In reality, it's just because Colleen Nolan said something and you've all jumped on it.

[joeysteele]

For me I admit and hold my hands up.
I cannot stand Coleen Nolan.
Nor her Sister either.

They use their celebrity status to spout their prejudice, bigotry and hate.

I find it sad anything these Nolans say are even reported on.

To me she is someone I'd avoid like the plague.
Her 2 horrible spite filled times in CBB, also her Sister Linda.
Was more than enough to have to come across either of them.

I'm happy to express my total dislike for Coleen every chance I get.
Which would be just about every time she opens her mouth.

So I'm guilty as charged as to jumping at her because I can't stand her.
Know what, I'm proud to be guilty of that too.

Jumped up bigot she has always been, is and I think always will be.

[Liam-]

I don’t understand how she’s a bigot? Like, alright dislike her, that’s fair game, but what’s she actually don’t to be considered a bigot? :think:

[Kazanne]

Yes, we all know there are lots of people NOT from the Orient telling us that it's offensive. In reality, it's just because Colleen Nolan said something and you've all jumped on it.

So true Livia had it been someone like Gemma Collins it would have been let go and she'de have been lauded :laugh:

[Livia]

So true Livia had it been someone like Gemma Collins it would have been let go and she'de have been lauded :laugh:

Irritating, isn't it.

[Kazanne]

Irritating, isn't it.

Irksome, :laugh:

[Livia]

Irksome, :laugh:

LOL... indubitably.

[Vicky.]

OK yeah, I know my opinion doesn't matter if am not asian myself really, but I don't see this as some absolutely horrific bigoted comment or anything. Misjudged, definitely, especially knowing how much people like to pounce on anything she says, but not racist as such.

[Barry.]

So true Livia had it been someone like Gemma Collins it would have been let go and she'de have been lauded :laugh:

I would of done the same if Jennifer Lawrence did it.

[Kazanne]

LOL... indubitably.

Got it in one :hee:

[Kazanne]

I would of done the same if Jennifer Lawrence did it.

Who ? :shocked::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Barry.]

Who ? :shocked::laugh::laugh::laugh:

You know who she is lol. Katniss?

[Kazanne]

You know who she is lol. Katniss?

:hee:lovely looking girl.

[GoldHeart]

I always get the impression Colleen thinks she's funny , she says things for a reaction . A comedienne she's NOT :bored: . She just talks alot of rubbish .

[Marsh.]

Yes, we all know there are lots of people NOT from the Orient telling us that it's offensive. In reality, it's just because Colleen Nolan said something and you've all jumped on it.

I've not jumped on anything sweetheart.

You're not the only one with access to the discussion forum. :hee:

[Marsh.]

And y'all need to stop making ridiculous and tenuous claims of racism only on the strength that it came from someone you dislike. It minimises real racism people suffer.

Oriental just means "from the East". Like Occidental mean "from the west". Neither is an offensive term. Great job getting all outraged on other people's behalf.

Are people suggesting "oriental" was racist.

I think the issue was her pulling on her eyes.

There's a reason things like blackface and yellowface are seen as outdated and not acceptable.

[Marsh.]

So true Livia had it been someone like Gemma Collins it would have been let go and she'de have been lauded :laugh:

Can't stand Gemma Collins so not sure whose arse you've pulled that conclusion out of.

[Jessica.]

I'm disgusted by that video, it's just crude. Can't believe she did it on TV too! Most of her parents generation were racist as hell so of course it was okay for people of Colleen's age to pull on their eyes and say they looked "oriental" when they were younger but it's 2019 and our countries are way more diverse, we know better. Saying she looked "oriental" is like saying she looked "African" or "Mexican", it might sound harmless if you just hear that word but if you actually think of what it means then it has a darker undertone, it's not okay in this day and age.

[Tom4784]

Any excuse for some to have a snidey swipe reactions like this make the forum unhealthy and unfriendly but hey ho, nothing racist about it except for those who love to moan about everything and anything, we didn't even know what racist was then as it wasn't on our minds, maybe you should stop being ageist !!!

'Accuses someone of making snide comments, goes on a spree of insults in the process that makes this topic more 'unhealthy and unfriendly'*

[Black Dagger]

Why have we got 3 pages worth of discussion on this gutter trash bitch?

[joeysteele]

Can't stand Gemma Collins so not sure whose arse you've pulled that conclusion out of.

I can't stand Gemma Collins either.
Both her and Nolan think they're important but both are awful examples of the worst kind as to celebrities.
Or people come to think that.

It's funny how people can't understand people not liking Nolan and her long list of prejudiced outbursts.

However, quite frankly it astounds me anyone would defend her.
Really mystifying, unless maybe they think as bad as she does.

[Marsh.]

I can't stand Gemma Collins either.
Both her and Nolan think they're important but both are awful examples of the worst kind as to celebrities.
Or people come to think that.

It's funny how people can't understand people not liking Nolan and her long list of prejudiced outbursts.

However, quite frankly it astounds me anyone would defend her.
Really mystifying, unless maybe they think as bad as she does.

:clap1:

[Kazanne]

I can't stand Gemma Collins either.
Both her and Nolan think they're important but both are awful examples of the worst kind as to celebrities.
Or people come to think that.

It's funny how people can't understand people not liking Nolan and her long list of prejudiced outbursts.

However, quite frankly it astounds me anyone would defend her.
Really mystifying, unless maybe they think as bad as she does.

I'm not defending her Joey , i'm not keen on the woman myself , but the outrage imo is a tad over the top , we've seen and heard much worse .

[joeysteele]

I'm not defending her Joey , i'm not keen on the woman myself , but the outrage imo is a tad over the top , we've seen and heard much worse .

I've seen and heard too much from her as to her prejudices and looking down her nose at people most of the time, to last me a lifetime.

I can't stand the woman so any getting at her for her nasty bigoted prejudices, is fine by me.
Her foul mouth doesn't help either.

Never would I race to defend her, she's just awful.
Exactly as she was on CBB.
Having to put up with her twice on my favourite reality show ruined both series for me.

Crumbs, I can't even bear to the Nolan's screeching on their recordings.
They all seem as bad as each other.

[Kazanne]

I've seen and heard too much from her as to her prejudices and looking down her nose at people most of the time, to last me a lifetime.

I can't stand the woman so any getting at her for her nasty bigoted prejudices, is fine by me.
Her foul mouth doesn't help either.

Never would I race to defend her, she's just awful.
Exactly as she was on CBB.
Having to put up with her twice on my favourite reality show ruined both series for me.

Crumbs, I can't even bear to the Nolan's screeching on their recordings.
They all seem as bad as each other.

:joker::joker:You don't like her then Joey,Iremember how awfulLinda was on CBB,poor Jim.

[joeysteele]

:joker::joker:You don't like her then Joey,Iremember how awfulLinda was on CBB,poor Jim.

Linda was vile then too.
They're just spiteful horrible bigots.

No, I can't stand the Nolan's. Sorry like.:joker:

[Marsh.]

we've seen and heard much worse .

How is this a relevant statement?

Charles Manson was worse than Ian Huntley, but a murderer is a murderer.

[GiRTh]

Never heard that “oriental” was racist :shrug:
In fact i’m sure i’ve heard it used as a style of doing eye makeup before.
Seems like people looking to be offended again tbh.:umm2:

[Marsh.]

a style of doing eye makeup before.

I-

[Tom4784]

How is this a relevant statement?

Charles Manson was worse than Ian Huntley, but a murderer is a murderer.

Yup, racist acts are racist acts, there isn't an 'acceptable' level of racism. If you pull your eyes back to imitate an asian person, whether you mean to be racist or not, is a racist thing and at best you're just incredibly ignorant but it doesn't change the fact that the act itself is racist.

Plus using the term oriental to describe asians on top of it all is just the icing on the ignorant cake.