Police called to loud altercation at Boris Johnson’s home

[Greg!]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

‘A neighbour told the Guardian they heard a woman screaming followed by “slamming and banging”. At one point Symonds could be heard telling Johnson to “get off me” and “get out of my flat”.’

‘On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my ****ing laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.”’

What a mess. Our next prime minister chicks.

[Ammi]

.....oooop...

[Jessica.]

I wonder what could be so bad on his laptop..

[Epic.]

"get off my ****ing laptop" coming out of his voice

IM DYING :laugh3:

[LaLaLand]

:skull::skull::skull::skull:

[Oliver_W]

Why is a reputable journalistic publication like the Guardian reporting on such tittletattle?

[Liam-]

Boris caught on ChristianMingle?

[Kazanne]

Why is a reputable journalistic publication like the Guardian reporting on such tittletattle?

Looks like Boris has the Trump media following him as for the story,I'll take it with a pinch of salt until we here it from a credible source. maybe it was one of his kids shouting !!!

[joeysteele]

Why is a reputable journalistic publication like the Guardian reporting on such tittletattle?

Is the Guardian or any other so called 'NEWS' paper, reputable anymore?
I'd question any are.

[bots]

This is the tip of the iceberg from inside stories I have heard. Bigger things will drop over the next few weeks

[Cherie]

Hunt it is then :joker:

[Twosugars]

This is the tip of the iceberg from inside stories I have heard. Bigger things will drop over the next few weeks

Perched then :hee:

[Twosugars]

Looks like Boris has the Trump media following him as for the story,I'll take it with a pinch of salt until we here it from a credible source. maybe it was one of his kids shouting !!!

Theres a police statement and recording made by a neighbour. It was Johnson and his girlfriend arguing

[Oliver_W]

This is the tip of the iceberg from inside stories I have heard. Bigger things will drop over the next few weeks

The smear campaign is in full force then?

[Jordan.]

The Jeremy Kyle show suddenly recommissioned?

[Northern Monkey]

Sounds like he got caught wanking with P.Hub on his laptop.

[Matthew.]

Sounds like he got caught wanking with P.Hub on his laptop.

Oh god there’s an image I’d have lived without

[bots]

Sounds like he got caught wanking with P.Hub on his laptop.

no, it would be a michael gove is out of the race article :laugh:

[Twosugars]

I heard sometime ago that his second ex wife vowed to destroy him but nothing happened yet. I wonder if and when she starts talking.

Also there was an issue of exactly how many children he has fathered so far

[Cherie]

I heard sometime ago that his second ex wife vowed to destroy him but nothing happened yet. I wonder if and when she starts talking.

Also there was an issue of exactly how many children he has fathered so far



is that really an issue these days? as long as he isn't paying for them I am sure it will be fine

[Twosugars]

[/B]


is that really an issue these days? as long as he isn't paying for them I am sure it will be fine

I dont know exactly what the issue is but appaz there was some radio interview this week with one of his supporters when it came up

[Greg!]

[/B]


is that really an issue these days? as long as he isn't paying for them I am sure it will be fine

I think the issue is no one really knows how many kids he actually has and he never says how many in any interviews, which is a big mess

[MTVN]

Apparently he spilt red wine over the sofa and ruined it

We've all been there

[Beso]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

‘A neighbour told the Guardian they heard a woman screaming followed by “slamming and banging”. At one point Symonds could be heard telling Johnson to “get off me” and “get out of my flat”.’

‘On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my ****ing laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.”’

What a mess. Our next prime minister chicks.

You missed half the quote in your haste hun.

[Beso]

Theres a police statement and recording made by a neighbour. It was Johnson and his girlfriend arguing

How much do people pay for these houses??? With no soundproof...!!!


I know he looks like a bumbling idiot but he is farming stock...no way will he have a house that doesn't have thick enough walls that the neighbour don't hear

[Twosugars]

How much do people pay for these houses??? With no soundproof...!!!


I know he looks like a bumbling idiot but he is farming stock...no way will he have a house that doesn't have thick enough walls that the neighbour don't hear

Its a rented flat.
The second ex wife got the house.
Maybe he preferred to rent knowing hed be moving to Downing Street

[Beso]

Its a rented flat.
The second ex wife got the house.
Maybe he preferred to rent knowing hed be moving to Downing Street

It's sound proof....don't be silly.:nono:

[Twosugars]

It's sound proof....don't be silly.:nono:

Yeah you know better than the police and the neighbours :laugh:

[Beso]

Yeah you know better than the police and the neighbours :laugh:

:joker:

You actually think there are police and bieghbours involved. ....


Omg. :joker::joker:

[Withano]

It's sound proof....don't be silly.:nono:

A flat in London? Doubt it. Loud noises like dogs barking, stereos, shouting matches etc will get picked up

[Beso]

A flat in London? Doubt it. Loud noises like dogs barking, stereos, shouting matches etc will get picked up

Do we know where the flat is, cause I'm all over the property in london and it's style, look and privacy capacity....


Is it in Westminster?

[Twosugars]

:joker:

You actually think there are police and bieghbours involved. ....


Omg. :joker::joker:

Stop trolling.
It's all over the news including right wing papers. Go and read about it, including the police statement.

[Twosugars]

Do we know where the flat is, cause I'm all over the property in london and it's style, look and privacy capacity....


Is it in Westminster?

In south London.
If you bothered to read the news you would see the house too, a Victorian house converted to a few flats so the internal walls are modern.

[Kazanne]

Who really cares? His house he can do what he wants ,the press are just leeches

[Ammi]

...he can’t really do what he wants though without gaining interest from the media and the public as he’s hoping to be..(..and probably will be..)...the next PM of this country...:laugh:..it all goes with the territory, of course a police reported altercation at his home will be of public interest...

[joeysteele]

...he can’t really do what he wants though without gaining interest from the media and the public as he’s hoping to be..(..and probably will be..)...the next PM of this country...:laugh:..it all goes with the territory, of course a police reported altercation at his home will be of public interest...

Absolutely right.

He's a Conservative however so he can do anything he likes.
Make what it seems as at least near racist comments, make offensive comments, insult other citizens of the UK namely in Scotland.
Can help make worse a British subjects plight in Iran.
Can annoy his neighbours so much they call the Police.

He can however do and say all he likes because he fits the Conservative hard liners.

If this was Corbyn.
The comments would be on the lines of 'no smoke without fire',
He should tell people what was really going on.
Especially aspiring to take on the highest elected job in the Country.

Yet he will get support..
Totally and utterly unbelievable.

As PM you have next to no privacy.
Any other leader not pressed as to how many children etc, and not being open, would be thought devious.

Farron pressed on his religious stance etc.

Yet Johnson is being cocooned at present in case anything more unpleasant surfaces.
Or he says or does his usual offensive self styled buffoonery.

Once other people can essily hear altercations, to the point they are loud enough to even be recorded it seems, then tthose altercations become public anyway, no longer private.

Never the less, the hardline brigade will March in to support and cover for such as Johnson.
While demanding every detail of most negative reporting about other political figures of a Party that brigade hates.

Honestly it's near despairing.

[joeysteele]

Who really cares? His house he can do what he wants ,the press are just leeches

Do you say that when its Corbyn?
When the Daily Mail spouted its lies on Miliband's Father and now on Corbyn for instance.
Especially when the bandwagon starts rolling.

Do you jump in to discount that reporting too?

Or does the press being termed undesirables only apply to negative reporting of Conservatives.
Such as Mark Field and now Johnson.

[Kazanne]

Do you say that when its Corbyn?
When the Daily Mail spouted its lies on Miliband's Father and now on Corbyn for instance.
Especially when the bandwagon starts rolling.

Do you jump in to discount that reporting too?

Or does the press being termed undesirables only apply to negative reporting of Conservatives.
Such as Mark Field and now Johnson.

If Corbyn or anyone else was in their own home and this happened Joey I wouldn't care a jot, surely they are allowed SOME privacy whoever it is but it all seems quite dodgy now that he is one of the contenders for PM, I don't even care how many children he has or Corbyn come to that, its none of my business,I was hopng for Rory Stewart but we cant always get what we want so have to make the best of what we are given,I don't trust the press (any of it) I have said previously mark Field handled that affair wrong but can see where he may have been coming from,there are always two sides, as for Boris but I justdon't find it that interesting that he spilled wine on his sofa,if indeed that is true. All I want is for someone to run the country in a good way and from what I've seen we are fooked.

[arista]

Who really cares? His house he can do what he wants ,the press are just leeches


His Left Wing Neighbor
sold it to the Guardian Paper.

[user104658]

If Corbyn or anyone else was in their own home and this happened Joey I wouldn't care a jot, surely they are allowed SOME privacy whoever it is but it all seems quite dodgy now that he is one of the contenders for PM, I don't even care how many children he has or Corbyn come to that, its none of my business,I was hopng for Rory Stewart but we cant always get what we want so have to make the best of what we are given,I don't trust the press (any of it) I have said previously mark Field handled that affair wrong but can see where he may have been coming from,there are always two sides, as for Boris but I justdon't find it that interesting that he spilled wine on his sofa,if indeed that is true. All I want is for someone to run the country in a good way and from what I've seen we are fooked.The issue isn't that he "spilled red wine" ffs it's that he was aggressive, intimidating and abusive towards his partner, shouted and swore at her, and refused to get away from her when she was screaming at him to get out.

She might be OK with being in a relationship like that and maybe you think relationships like that are fine :shrug: but for gods sake surely we should have SOME sort of standards when it comes to choosing the next leader of our country, and NOT pick a loud, xenophobic, misogynistic bully-clown?

The excuses that are being made on social media for this giant scruffy haired lump of sh**, and the other Tory MP who took it upon himself to physically assault a protester, are beyond a joke. It's terrifying.

[Cherie]

The issue isn't that he "spilled red wine" ffs it's that he was aggressive, intimidating and abusive towards his partner, shouted and swore at her, and refused to get away from her when she was screaming at him to get out.

She might be OK with being in a relationship like that and maybe you think relationships like that are fine :shrug: but for gods sake surely we should have SOME sort of standards when it comes to choosing the next leader of our country, and NOT pick a loud, xenophobic, misogynistic bully-clown?

The excuses that are being made on social media for this giant scruffy haired lump of sh**, and the other Tory MP who took it upon himself to physically assault a protester, are beyond a joke. It's terrifying.

Tbf we don't know the full story here, she could have been accusing him of being unfaithful which is why she was on his laptop....she was screaming, not crying, he was shouting...so looks like 50/50 unless we are saying the man is always in the wrong in these situations, its not a good look for either of them and at a crucial time like this, Teresa May and Philip would never :hehe:

Honestly I think at this point I would rather Bojo as PM than Hunt...its between a rock and a hard place though

[Twosugars]

The issue isn't that he "spilled red wine" ffs it's that he was aggressive, intimidating and abusive towards his partner, shouted and swore at her, and refused to get away from her when she was screaming at him to get out.

She might be OK with being in a relationship like that and maybe you think relationships like that are fine :shrug: but for gods sake surely we should have SOME sort of standards when it comes to choosing the next leader of our country, and NOT pick a loud, xenophobic, misogynistic bully-clown?

The excuses that are being made on social media for this giant scruffy haired lump of sh**, and the other Tory MP who took it upon himself to physically assault a protester, are beyond a joke. It's terrifying.

You dont like him then TS?:hee:

[bots]

His Left Wing Neighbor
sold it to the Guardian Paper.

let's be fair, this is potentially the next PM, it is news

[arista]

let's be fair, this is potentially the next PM, it is news


Yes but Police visited them
No Crime Committed.




It sounds worse than it is

[bots]

we don't know if any crime was committed or not, just that the police saw no evidence of it and a story doesn't need to be a crime for it to be news

[user104658]

Tbf we don't know the full story here, she could have been accusing him of being unfaithful which is why she was on his laptop....she was screaming, not crying, he was shouting...so looks like 50/50 unless we are saying the man is always in the wrong in these situations


No one male or female who can't control their temper and aggression should even be being considered for the position of leader of an entire country, and as she isn't in the running to be prime minister, its not really relevant if it's 50/50 or not. Only his actions are relevant in the context of being appropriate for office. Someone who shouts and bawls at their partner and, from the sounds of it (banging noises followed by her suggesting that he doesn't care for anything because he's spoiled) likes to smash up inanimate objects in a temper tantrum is not suitable for prime minister. It's appalling that people think that kind of behaviour is OK in an adult... He's not a silly angry teenage boy, no matter how much he likes to act like one.

[Vicky.]

I don't really think its unreasonable that we would hold the potential future PM of the country to a higher standard that we would Bob next door tbh. I have seen this being explained as basically 'at least he is showing he is human, will be nice to have a 'normal' PM' as if..such rages are the only thing that make someone normal :umm2:

[user104658]

I don't really think its unreasonable that we would hold the potential future PM of the country to a higher standard that we would Bob next door tbh. I have seen this being explained as basically 'at least he is showing he is human, will be nice to have a 'normal' PM' as if..such rages are the only thing that make someone normal :umm2:It just shows that people are willing to accept the lowest aspects of human behaviour, like outright unapologetic aggression, as normal. Like having a screeching argument with a partner is a desirable part of being a "normal relatable person".

[Cherie]

No one male or female who can't control their temper and aggression should even be being considered for the position of leader of an entire country, and as she isn't in the running to be prime minister, its not really relevant if it's 50/50 or not. Only his actions are relevant in the context of being appropriate for office. Someone who shouts and bawls at their partner and, from the sounds of it (banging noises followed by her suggesting that he doesn't care for anything because he's spoiled) likes to smash up inanimate objects in a temper tantrum is not suitable for prime minister. It's appalling that people think that kind of behaviour is OK in an adult... He's not a silly angry teenage boy, no matter how much he likes to act like one.

Not saying that at all, we have a version given to us by the press and the neighbour, no crime was committed as far as we know? You can't really win can you, May was called the Maybot due to lack of emotion, its funny how the papers are immediately quoting gospel when its someone we dont like, so many people defended Abbott when she was clearly breaking the law and calling her human, are now wading in and saying Boris is a a wife beater basically, Im so sick of the whole he said, she said...people applauding politicians being covered in milkshakes because they dont agree with their politics, while lauding Abbott for breaking the law while being a serving MP, I have never voted Tory, I have voted Labour but won't now, I am politically in the wilderness so maybe it easier for me to see both sides, this territorial ..my party and its members can do no wrong is frankly laughable, do people actually believe what they post, I doubt it, just last week people were trying to spin that Melania was wearing Gucci to make a political point...lmfao.. Yes Boris should be be snowy white, but he is not, neither is Hunt, neither is Corbyn, neither is St Nicky ....sick of the lot of them and I will be spoiling my vote for the foreseeable I think

[user104658]

I think we're in a pretty dire situation if our criteria for leader of the nation is "he hasn't broken any laws per se".

[Cherie]

I think we're in a pretty dire situation if our criteria for leader of the nation is "he hasn't broken any laws per se".

We are having one or the other, like I said before its not exactly a great choice, I think my problem with your post was it was immediately the man who was the abuser, which taking away the people involved and based on the information we have is wrong, because it could have been either of them

[Livia]

Neighbours recording a domestic fight through the wall, and the Guardian buys it.

Who would be an MP, eh? People spy on people, record them through a wall and other people lap it up like the salacious gossip it is.

[Twosugars]

Somebody getting attacked next door.
No, I shouldn't call the police bc I'd be accused of salacious gossip :facepalm:

[Kazanne]

Neighbours recording a domestic fight through the wall, and the Guardian buys it.

Who would be an MP, eh? People spy on people, record them through a wall and other people lap it up like the salacious gossip it is.

Got it in one Livia ,people thinking they know what happened ,they don't, but still condemn someone they don't like :laugh::laugh:

[Kazanne]

Somebody getting attacked next door.
No, I shouldn't call the police bc I'd be accused of salacious gossip :facepalm:

No one was attacked as far as we know, no need for the over dramatics

[Livia]

No one was attacked as far as we know, no need for the over dramatics

Attacked... lol... how these things get embellished.

[Twosugars]

Theres this unbelievable phenomenon best illustrated by Christian evangelicals voting an masse for con and adulterer trump in America where people put aside all values they cherish in hope of achieving their political ends.
Over here it seems to be going the same way. People abandoning any moral standards by which they normally judge others bc they want Brexit so much they'd let satan himself deliver it.
And they tie themselves in knots to justify it.
And so Johnson (judged as best able to deliver it) can do no wrong. It'll be always someone else's fault.

[Twosugars]

No one was attacked as far as we know, no need for the over dramatics

She shouted get off me and get out of my flat, repeatedly.
I guess she was being overly dramatic? Women eh, Kazanne:shrug:

[Livia]

Same as the milkshake throwers then, being justified in what they're doing.

And the Left's connections with terrorist groups... justified.

One side is no worse than the other here, despite all the bleating.

[Twosugars]

I never defended Corbyn's links. Tho I did laugh at milkshakes. Hardly the same

[user104658]

One side is no worse than the other here, despite all the bleating.

Are you then finally agreeing that Johnson's actions are inexcusable?

[Livia]

I never defended Corbyn's links. Tho I did laugh at milkshakes. Hardly the same

No, not the same at all.... one was an actual assault. The other is someone saying "get off me" through a wall. He could have been trying to hug her, but you seem to have anticipated the last page when most people are still on chapter 1. So as you say to so many people... you go on.

[Livia]

Are you then finally agreeing that Johnson's actions are inexcusable?

I don't know. All I've seen is something recorded through a wall by a neighbour and a few out of context phrases. I know as much as you about this... virtually nothing.

[Twosugars]

No, not the same at all.... one was an actual assault. The other is someone saying "get off me" through a wall. He could have been trying to hug her, but you seem to have anticipated the last page when most people are still on chapter 1. So as you say to so many people... you go on.

And get out of my flat was an invite to an outdoor bonk?

Ok

[Livia]

And get out of my flat was an invite to an outdoor bonk?

Ok

I'm still in the honeymoon period with my husband, But my first husband and I had some very lively rows and I'm sure I'm not alone. I'm also sure that my husband and I have lots of fights to look forward to. We all fight. We all say stupid stuff we don't mean, "I could kill you!" for instance. The difference is we don't have neighbours recording it through a wall.

[user104658]

We all say stupid stuff we don't mean, "I could kill you!" for instance.

Sorry Livia but while I agree that everyone argues (me and my wife have had some epics), and everyone says things they regret in arguments, I can quite confidently say that I never have and never would threaten to physically hurt or kill a partner and I'm very dubious that we should be accepting or normalizing that. Also violence (which includes throwing or smashing objects / punching walls etc.) should never be seen as a normal part of "just couples arguing".

[Withano]

Boris Johnson refuses to accept his girlfriend telling him “leave means leave” lel

Boris Johnson refuses to accept his girlfriend telling him “leave means leave”

Boris Johnson kicked out by girlfriend
Boris Johnson has today spoken out to insist that “leave means leave” is no way an explicit instruction to anyone.

After hearing the word leave screamed at him several times while at home with his girlfriend, Johnson insisted that the term is open to interpretation and anyone screaming “leave!” could also have meant they secretly want him to remain.

“Circumstances change, and though the word ‘leave’ might have been used, I have no doubt that in the cold light of day she will have changed her mind,” explained Boris’s spokesperson, Simon Williams.

“Sometimes people say ‘Leave’ in the heat of the moment, or because they’ve got the wrong end of the stick about a particular issue – it would be foolhardy to make life-affecting decisions in such circumstances.

[joeysteele]

This was late at night.
Loud enough to be heard next door.

It maybe can be questioned re the recording but had anything happened bad.
At least recorded was some build up to it.

If someone played noisy music, they'd get into bother.
I see no reason why loudly arguing couples shouldn't either.

To be told to tone it down at least.
If any children could hear people arguing, that's unacceptable.

All very well to argue but to have it spill over that others hear it or get woken by it.
That's unacceptable.

Highly ignorant of couples thinking that others need to have to hear their arguing too.
Especially around midnight to the early hours too.

[joeysteele]

Sorry Livia but while I agree that everyone argues (me and my wife have had some epics), and everyone says things they regret in arguments, I can quite confidently say that I never have and never would threaten to physically hurt or kill a partner and I'm very dubious that we should be accepting or normalizing that. Also violence (which includes throwing or smashing objects / punching walls etc.) should never be seen as a normal part of "just couples arguing".

I agree.

[Liam-]

Boris Johnson refuses to accept his girlfriend telling him “leave means leave” lel

‘No is open to interpretation, sometimes no means yes and they just don’t know it’

[Liam-]

Looks like where heading to another age of powerful men telling women what they actually mean and think, because women clearly don’t know what they’re saying

[Cherie]

Is the recording of this available, has the Guardian released it, I would be interested to hear it

[Twosugars]

I'm still in the honeymoon period with my husband, But my first husband and I had some very lively rows and I'm sure I'm not alone. I'm also sure that my husband and I have lots of fights to look forward to. We all fight. We all say stupid stuff we don't mean, "I could kill you!" for instance. The difference is we don't have neighbours recording it through a wall.

I can well believe you're feisty :)
And I agree with you re couples rowing.
She's still with him so they must have patched it up whatever it was.
But...
This guy deserves extra scrutiny. He is someone who's made a career of lying and manipulating. He was sacked twice for lying. He tried to hire someone to beat up his colleague.
And now he's about to become a PM. Enough is enough. As his girlfriend said he's spoilt and knows value of nothing. Time to take responsibility for his words and actions.

[Tom4784]

If this was Jeremy Corbyn or Diane Abbot, a lot of the people in this thread dismissing the story would be calling for their heads.

That being said, It's a difficult story to judge since we don't know the context without the recording. There's definitely troublesome aspects to the story though but I'm going to wait until the recording is available to form a real opinion on it. If it's as it's said in the article though, it paints a grim picture of him.

[Denver]

I dont think its fair to judge someones personal arguments when everyone has arguments in a relationship

[Beso]

Somebody getting attacked next door.
No, I shouldn't call the police bc I'd be accused of salacious gossip :facepalm:

That would be when they phoned the guardian.

[joeysteele]

I dont think its fair to judge someones personal arguments when everyone has arguments in a relationship

No it's not right to judge others arguments, even moderately with raised voices.

However after midnight and being disturbed by others making any argument no longer then private but more public.
Then judgement and even concerns may happen.

However, no way should they have after calling the police contacted any press outlet.
That's very questionable and indefensible in my view.

[lime]

When theresa May requested the last extension the EU granted it and requested that Britain made use of this time...But here we are! Who should have phoned the Police? Who spilled red wine on the sofa?Should he have left when his partner told him?


We all just want to move on.

So frustrating to hear folk tlk about this nosence and not about the no deal which is now a sureity

[arista]

Is the recording of this available, has the Guardian released it, I would be interested to hear it


No as it may be illegal to play.

[Twosugars]

No as it may be illegal to play.

Why?

The guy recorded noises from within his own flat

[Twosugars]

That would be when they phoned the guardian.

It was in public interest

[Beso]

It was in public interest

Well it's not really...and the round of applause he got from his fellow MPs when he refused to be drawn into answering questions on it shows that they agree..

You have already taken Theresa mays view as gospel when she condemned the attack on the greenpeace protestor so I am assuming you will do the same here and agree that it in fact is not in the public interest.

[Twosugars]

Well it's not really...and the round of applause he got from his fellow MPs when he refused to be drawn into answering questions on it shows that they agree..

You have already taken Theresa mays view as gospel when she condemned the attack on the greenpeace protestor so I am assuming you will do the same here and agree that it in fact is not in the public interest.

It was Tory activists not MPs
I also said the thirst for Brexit is so irrational among some that they would let satan himself deliver it, let alone Johnson

Btw, he agreed, at the same meeting, that the public has a right to judge his character.

[Beso]

It was Tory activists not MPs
I also said the thirst for Brexit is so irrational among some that they would let satan himself deliver it, let alone Johnson

Btw, he agreed, at the same meeting, that the public has a right to judge his character.

Party members, not activists....

[Twosugars]

Party members, not activists....

But you said MPs :laugh: make up your mind :hee:

[thesheriff443]

And life goes on!

[Livia]

It was in public interest

The police were called, they attended, they interviewed the parties involved and concluded that everyone involved was fine and that there were no further questions to answer.

So, what is it you know that the police don't?

And I'd rather like to see the busybodies named and shamed. Record people arguing next door for the police if you think there's danger... but they sold it to the Guardian.

[bots]

i think it is very much in the public interest to know what type of character Boris is, he could be the next prime minister. Look at the attention that Brown got when he was talking about that lady .... thats public interest. John Major recorded calling his cabinet bastards ... again in the public interest

[Twosugars]

The police were called, they attended, they interviewed the parties involved and concluded that everyone involved was fine and that there were no further questions to answer.

So, what is it you know that the police don't?

And I'd rather like to see the busybodies named and shamed. Record people arguing next door for the police if you think there's danger... but they sold it to the Guardian.

If the reactions it got is anything to go by they did the right thing by contacting a newspaper.
Malcolm Rifkind who I've always respected summed it up well:
He told BBC Radio 5 Live: “If you are a candidate to be prime minister and the police have been called to your house – fairly or unfairly – the fact is there was a police visit. You don’t just say ‘no comment’. That implies you may have something you don’t want to disclose.

“It was a lack of judgment to refuse to even make a short comment. All he could have said, quite reasonably, would have been that in all relationships there are occasionally outbursts of anger and disagreement.”

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/06/768x432/skynews-boris-johnson-carrie-symonds_4699749.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190621222020

[Denver]

The couple who called the cops are remainers and the female has wrote articles attacking the Tories and bragged about putting her finger up to Boris

[Cherie]

The two candidates left are both leavers though, so not sure what ousting Boris will do for remain.

i think he did more damage by not addressed it then the actual event itself

[Denver]

The two candidates left are both leavers though, so not sure what ousting Boris will do for remain.

i think he did more damage by not addressed it then the actual event itself

It suggests that there was a motive by the couple not because they were scared

[Cherie]

It suggests that there was a motive by the couple not because they were scared

oh 100 per cent it was nothing to do with being scared, he started recording before he went and knocked on the door, who does that if they think someone is in danger lol

[Matthew.]

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[Liam-]

1142712820401917953

His account is life

[Twosugars]

oh 100 per cent it was nothing to do with being scared, he started recording before he went and knocked on the door, who does that if they think someone is in danger lol

Do you have proof?
I read he started recording later.
And fyi, people record stuff on their phones to document a potential crime

And wouldn't it he simpler if Johnson behaved with some decorum as a PM wannabe rather than have blazing rows neighbours can hear? How about that? Hm?

[Denver]

Do you have proof?
I read he started recording later.
And fyi, people record stuff on their phones to document a potential crime

And wouldn't it he simpler if Johnson behaved with some decorum as a PM wannabe rather than have blazing rows neighbours can hear? How about that? Hm?

So you never have a blazing row in your life? It's funny how the left take the word of the left then his partner who denied most of the accusations

[Twosugars]

So you never have a blazing row in your life? It's funny how the left take the word of the left then his partner who denied most of the accusations

Johnson deserves all the scrutiny as a potential PM
Theresa would never

[Cherie]

Do you have proof?
I read he started recording later.
And fyi, people record stuff on their phones to document a potential crime

And wouldn't it he simpler if Johnson behaved with some decorum as a PM wannabe rather than have blazing rows neighbours can hear? How about that? Hm?

No I don't have proof, do you have proof of what you claim?

Where have I claimed that he acted with decorum hmm? Im not a Boris fan for clarification....

[Liam-]

In this day and age it’s very common to record incidents where you think evidence might be needed, there’s nothing wrong with recording noises you can hear in your own property, just think, if he had been beating her, then there would have been suitable evidence to back it up,.

Could it be an innocent row being used by militants to smear someone? Possibly.
Could it be a high ranking politician using his power and influence in the media to discredit people that could expose his abusive, aggressive ways? Possibly.

He clearly has some influence seeing as the police lied and said there were no incidents at that address, until they were confronted with all the details and had no choice but to confirm it.

[Twosugars]

No I don't have proof, do you have proof of what you claim?

Where have I claimed that he acted with decorum hmm? Im not a Boris fan for clarification....

I'm going by what was reported. But you seem to have a different version of events. Why?
The recording was also given to the police. Haven't heard them querying it.

Johnson does something stupid yet you blame others for reporting it

[Denver]

Johnson deserves all the scrutiny as a potential PM
Theresa would never

The couple lost all credibility when the woman bragged about flipping off Bojo like a child she is

[Twosugars]

The couple lost all credibility when the woman bragged about flipping off Bojo like a child she is

Idc about their credibility. It's not about them.
Its him who's running for office not them.
We have hard facts: the recording and the police visit
Plus his curious lack of comment

[Twosugars]

The couple lost all credibility when the woman bragged about flipping off Bojo like a child she is

Most of London voted remain and despise Johnson.
They are not unusual.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9wlGdCWsAEe12Q.jpg

[Cherie]

I'm going by what was reported. But you seem to have a different version of events. Why?
The recording was also given to the police. Haven't heard them querying it.

Johnson does something stupid yet you blame others for reporting it

That is the version I read? I haven't followed every article on it mind....

[Cherie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9wlGdCWsAEe12Q.jpg

:joker:

[Twosugars]

As I said, he ****s up, those who report it are to blame

Look forward to his premiership. Should be a laff

[Cherie]

those who reported it are to blame for what exactly? I have no idea what point you are trying to make here

I have already said I think its odd he didn't answer questions on it, and that it is more damaging than the event itself, what more do you want for me, pinky swear it in blood

[Beso]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9wlGdCWsAEe12Q.jpg

Sums it up in one.

[Twosugars]

those who reported it are to blame for what exactly? I have no idea what point you are trying to make here

I have already said I think its odd he didn't answer questions on it, and that it is more damaging than the event itself, what more do you want for me, pinky swear it in blood

Have not seen the campaign to smear them? Even in this thread
As if their political views had anything to do with Johnson behaviour
Let's deal with him not them.
Of course they dont like him, most leakers report to media to expose , that's a given

[arista]

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[joeysteele]

For me, he needs to realise this isn't going away.
I mean, one of his main characteristics are he often waded into or caused controversy.

This stage managing of him, keeping.him gagged is just not him.
It is so transparent, the fears are he'd want to and then probably would make gaffes and say dubious and even unsavoury comments.

That however is the real Boris Johnson.

Onto this issue,.he let it get public, others heard it, through the day less of an issue but around or after midnight more unacceptable.

Had he charged in, joking about it.
Saying yes they had a fight of sorts, most couples do, it was all sorted and he regretted any inconvenience to his neighbours.
He could have put this probably to bed.

As it is,.he's allowing it to develop into something that may be around all through his campaign.
As he's seen to be being more devious than usual.

That wouldn't bother me if it were to affect his chances.
I'd hate to see him as PM of the UK.

However, he needs to be Boris Johnson, not a string pulled puppet.

[bots]

He is out and around the country for the next few weeks and then he will be moving in to number 10, so i don't think there is a particular issue at the present time

[user104658]

The message that's being pushed here is ****ing abysmal regardless of who this is about;

"Hear a domestic disturbance and someone in distress? Mind your own business, don't alert anyone, it's probably nothing, and if you report it you're a nosy nightmare neighbour."

There were 600,000 reported incidents of domestic violence in 2018, and it's estimated that less than HALF are reported so the true figure is well over 1 million. There were over 200,000 arrests made, and two+ women every week in the UK are killed by a partner in a domestic violence incident.

This is all verified ONS data, not tabloid figures.

But hey everyone argues so mind your own beeswax, amirite?

[arista]

He is out and around the country for the next few weeks and then he will be moving in to number 10, so i don't think there is a particular issue at the present time


Yes he going ahead
ignoring the SkyNewsHD live debate tomorrow night,
as well.

So they will have just Jeremy Hunt
on his own?

[Ammi]

The message that's being pushed here is ****ing abysmal regardless of who this is about;

"Hear a domestic disturbance and someone in distress? Mind your own business, don't alert anyone, it's probably nothing, and if you report it you're a nosy nightmare neighbour."

There were 600,000 reported incidents of domestic violence in 2018, and it's estimated that less than HALF are reported so the true figure is well over 1 million. There were over 200,000 arrests made, and two+ women every week in the UK are killed by a partner in a domestic violence incident.

This is all verified ONS data, not tabloid figures.

But hey everyone argues so mind your own beeswax, amirite?

...yet we teach our children to be thoughtful and mindful of others etc ...go figure...

[MTVN]

I don't think anyone would fault them for reporting it but passing the audio to a newspaper because you're unhappy that Boris wasn't led away in handcuffs is a bit dubious, its like they're disappointed that there wasn't actually a serious domestic violence incident taking place

[user104658]

I don't think anyone would fault them for reporting it but passing the audio to a newspaper because you're unhappy that Boris wasn't led away in handcuffs is a bit dubious, its like they're disappointed that there wasn't actually a serious domestic violence incident taking place

In what possible world is this information not in the public interest, though? I suppose it's indicative of how seriously we take politics though isn't it. "Who do we want to be the leader of our country? Meh whoever who cares anyone will do none of our business what they get up to anyway."

[MTVN]

In what possible world is this information not in the public interest, though? I suppose it's indicative of how seriously we take politics though isn't it. "Who do we want to be the leader of our country? Meh whoever who cares anyone will do none of our business what they get up to anyway."

I don't know if it is tbh, not when we don't really know the circumstances surrounding it or the nature of their relationship

For all we know many of our previous leaders could have had plenty of moments like this and there's been many a good politician who have had serious flaws and personal demons but we don't really know what goes on behind anyones closed doors and I don't think we're entitled to know

[bots]

the story won't change the result of the contest anyway. Those that support Boris aren't going to change their minds hearing this story

[Livia]

He has nothing to answer according to the police. Everyone rows. And honestly, as much as I hate Corbyn, I would say the same if this involved him. Everyone has a right to a private life no matter what they do for a living. And he and his girlfriend are back together, just like countless other couples who had a fight over the weekend.

[user104658]

Again, if our criteria for the most suitable people to run the entire country is "not a criminal :)" then we are well and truly ****ed. Although I say that like we didn't know already.

[Livia]

Again, if our criteria for the most suitable people to run the entire country is "not a criminal :)" then we are well and truly ****ed. Although I say that like we didn't know already.

So when police said there was nothing to answer, everyone was safe, no further action was needed. What do you think that meant?

[user104658]

So when police said there was nothing to answer, everyone was safe, no further action was needed. What do you think that meant?

That he's a bumbling, pushy, spoiled (like the lady said), entitled arsehole who is used to getting his own way with a big, fat, smug smile plastered across his chops, scratching his balls and guffawing about the idiots who are voting him into the position of Prime Minister.

But that none of that is criminal and his partner can handle him in their personal life.

Which is irrelevant. I'm not saying he should be arrested I'm saying we should have higher standards for Prime Minister, but we don't because we live in a dog bowl and we're apparently content there.

[Vicky.]

OK not to say that this happened here, but the police saying 'nothing to see here, move along' and claiming everyone is safe..well in DV incidents, its not always the case. My mother was nearly killed only minutes after the police were apparently satisfied that her partner was not a threat as he 'had calmed down' and they basically blamed my mother for overstating things, even though it was the neighbour who rang the police. They left, and minutes later his hands were round her throat. Similar things happened a fair few times too. She has a drink driving record because..he had started hitting her and the police had been called but did not take it seriously (were laughing with him about how 'everybody argues' :umm2: While her eye was swelling up) and left her alone with him again so she got into her car even though she knew she was over the limit to get away frm him to..well stay alive. I have many stories of police being woefully inadequate in DV incidences, and believing the bloke even though he has a history of GBH and stuff :/

Obviously not claiming this happened here, but police, from my experience anyway, do not take domestic incidences too seriously and prefer to be in and straight out. So that they 'no crimed' this means not that much, hell some rapes are even no crimed these days.

[Livia]

That he's a bumbling, pushy, spoiled (like the lady said), entitled arsehole who is used to getting his own way with a big, fat, smug smile plastered across his chops, scratching his balls and guffawing about the idiots who are voting him into the position of Prime Minister.

But that none of that is criminal and his partner can handle him in their personal life.

Which is irrelevant. I'm not saying he should be arrested I'm saying we should have higher standards for Prime Minister, but we don't because we live in a dog bowl and we're apparently content there.

I pretty much agree with all that, except... this particular incident has been blown out of all proportion. They were pictured holding hands over the weekend while people on here are still talking about domestic violence.

Look at the potential PMs we have waiting in the wings: we have a divisive Labour leader who openly supports terrorist groups, has a history of not dealing with antisemitism and is now maybe backing a second referendum... but not because that's what he believes. We've got Boris, over-privileged Etonian who is more famous for dangling from a zip wire or getting a women a longer sentence in Iran because he let his mouth run away with him, than for any other thing he's done in the political arena.

British politics has never been so low....

[Vicky.]

They were pictured holding hands over the weekend while people on here are still talking about domestic violence.


:suspect: Not actually seeing the relevance here? There can still have been a serious incident and they held hands soon after..

Again though, not saying screaming and shouting IS a DV incidcent. Just..have seen a fair few saying that because the police did nothing, nothing happened.

Either way, Boris will have a new house come a few weeks time so I am sure hes not arsed too much. Wonder if he will try soundproofing number 10 a bit more? :laugh:

[Cherie]

Really the person we should feel sorry for in all of this is Carrie, I didn't know until earlier she was one of John Warbouys (black cab rapists) victims

[Livia]

:suspect: Not actually seeing the relevance here? There can still have been a serious incident and they held hands soon after..

Again though, not saying screaming and shouting IS a DV incidcent. Just..have seen a fair few saying that because the police did nothing, nothing happened.

Either way, Boris will have a new house come a few weeks time so I am sure hes not arsed too much. Wonder if he will try soundproofing number 10 a bit more? :laugh:

I almost put in the disclaimer "not aimed at you, Vicky...".

[MTVN]

Really the person we should feel sorry for in all of this is Carrie, I didn't know until earlier she was one of John Warbouys (black cab rapists) victims

Yes and now she can't return to her home because left wing activists are protesting outside it

[Vicky.]

Really the person we should feel sorry for in all of this is Carrie, I didn't know until earlier she was one of John Warbouys (black cab rapists) victims

I read that yesterday, poor woman :(

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/06/768x432/skynews-carrie-symonds-boris-johnson_4701563.jpg?20190624150106
Both having a Great Time , now


[Boris Johnson's backers have rallied to support him after police were called
to an incident at the home he shares with his girlfriend.
The support from several MPs comes as pictures emerged of Mr Johnson holding hands
with girlfriend Carrie Symonds, apparently taken in Sussex over the weekend.]

[Cherie]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/06/768x432/skynews-carrie-symonds-boris-johnson_4701563.jpg?20190624150106
Both having a Great Time , now


[Boris Johnson's backers have rallied to support him after police were called
to an incident at the home he shares with his girlfriend.
The support from several MPs comes as pictures emerged of Mr Johnson holding hands
with girlfriend Carrie Symonds, apparently taken in Sussex over the weekend.]

someone needs to get the mower out :omgno:

[Liam-]

That picture was supposedly taken yesterday, a day after he was last seen, if that’s the case, his hair grew a good few inches overnight, Tory media wouldn’t be peddling fake news would they? :omgno:

[arista]

That picture was supposedly taken yesterday, a day after he was last seen, if that’s the case, his hair grew a good few inches overnight, Tory media wouldn’t be peddling fake news would they? :omgno:



Yes Valid Point Liam
Unless he washed it
and Fluffed it up

[Kazanne]

someone needs to get the mower out :omgno:

Exactly my thoughts Cherie,:laugh:

[Beso]

OK not to say that this happened here, but the police saying 'nothing to see here, move along' and claiming everyone is safe..well in DV incidents, its not always the case. My mother was nearly killed only minutes after the police were apparently satisfied that her partner was not a threat as he 'had calmed down' and they basically blamed my mother for overstating things, even though it was the neighbour who rang the police. They left, and minutes later his hands were round her throat. Similar things happened a fair few times too. She has a drink driving record because..he had started hitting her and the police had been called but did not take it seriously (were laughing with him about how 'everybody argues' :umm2: While her eye was swelling up) and left her alone with him again so she got into her car even though she knew she was over the limit to get away frm him to..well stay alive. I have many stories of police being woefully inadequate in DV incidences, and believing the bloke even though he has a history of GBH and stuff :/

Obviously not claiming this happened here, but police, from my experience anyway, do not take domestic incidences too seriously and prefer to be in and straight out. So that they 'no crimed' this means not that much, hell some rapes are even no crimed these days.

Was that a while ago or recent?

[Beso]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/06/768x432/skynews-boris-johnson-carrie-symonds_4699749.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190621222020

They said we could be sister and brother...thank you jarvis.

[Twosugars]

That picture was supposedly taken yesterday, a day after he was last seen, if that’s the case, his hair grew a good few inches overnight, Tory media wouldn’t be peddling fake news would they? :omgno:

:hehe:
Well spotted

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1143044073474940931/Tp6vBe6u?format=jpg&name=600x314

[joeysteele]

That picture was supposedly taken yesterday, a day after he was last seen, if that’s the case, his hair grew a good few inches overnight, Tory media wouldn’t be peddling fake news would they? :omgno:

Very well observed Liam.
Interesting point indeed.

[Vicky.]

Was that a while ago or recent?

Ahh was about 15 years or so ago now. But from what friends say, it seems police still don't take DV all that seriously these days.

(Again, not saying this was a DV situation..)

[bots]

someone needs to get the mower out :omgno:

his hair isn't that bad :nono:

[joeysteele]

Ahh was about 15 years or so ago now. But from what friends say, it seems police still don't take DV all that seriously these days.

(Again, not saying this was a DV situation..)

Some forces operate a better line on this than others.
However you are right, there are still problems having this taken seriously.

There are cases, where someone man or woman, has been on the receiving end of total abuse.
The police cannot do anything, if both parties maintain nothing is wrong.
Even if there was, if the abused person wants nothing done, then they can't really act on that either.

I've come across cases where the denial of anything bad happening, has gone on for a long time.
Then the point is reached where it's revealed how long it's gone on, once the abused eventually reaches the point to reveal all.
It's awful and devastating.

There is this recording on this incident so it seems there's proof there was cause for concern.
Especially too after midnight.

However she seems to have been giving verbally as much as she was getting from him.
In fact we have no record of anything he is supposed to have said on the recording.

So this is more likely harmless.
Something between themselves, which would have been better toned down so no one else heard much or anything.

Again however, the usual Johnson would have bulldozed through this and likely got laughs from his Conservative supporters.
He could have put this out the way quickly.
Instead his stance is feeding rightly or wrongly, negative speculation as to the issue.

He's just not looking genuine or trustworthy on his public or private life.
I doubt this issue will go away.

It may not however harm him at all with his Conservative membership supporters.
With the Country though, it could be a small part of making things worse for the Conservatives.

Johnson is too volatile to be a trusted or effective Party leader.
Running London as Mayor is a world away from running a Country.
None of the last 3 London mayors, are Prime Ministerial quality.
Johnson also was an at best poor Foreign secretary.


This incident just adds to the doubts as to his integrity really.

[user104658]

Johnson is too volatile to be a trusted or effective Party leader.


Exactly this, Joey. People keep asking why any of this is relevant and pointing out that it's his "personal life" and nothing tro do with becoming PM, but it's just as you say. It's relevant because it's ANOTHER indication (on top of the mountain we already have!) that he doesn't have the temperament or dignity to be an effective or desirable leader of a country.

[bots]

Tell me this then, why is someone being volatile a bad thing? Someone that cares about things and gets emotional, to me is going to be a much better leader than a robot.

We had a robot in May, she carried on regardless of anything happening around her. Boris at least reacts to situations around him and that makes him a much better negotiator for starters. Some people will never be happy. we tried the "strong and stable" approach, where did that get us? An almighty mess, that's where

[Vicky.]

Tell me this then, why is someone being volatile a bad thing? Someone that cares about things and gets emotional, to me is going to be a much better leader than a robot.

We had a robot in May, she carried on regardless of anything happening around her. Boris at least reacts to situations around him and that makes him a much better negotiator for starters. Some people will never be happy. we tried the "strong and stable" approach, where did that get us? An almighty mess, that's where
I think a happy medium is probably the best place. Mind, good luck finding a politician thats a good way between the two, seems they either are overly emotional, ot sociopathic, no midway :umm2:

[user104658]

Tell me this then, why is someone being volatile a bad thing? Someone that cares about things and gets emotional, to me is going to be a much better leader than a robot.

We had a robot in May, she carried on regardless of anything happening around her. Boris at least reacts to situations around him and that makes him a much better negotiator for starters. Some people will never be happy. we tried the "strong and stable" approach, where did that get us? An almighty mess, that's where

The idea that you need to lose control of your emotions to be a charismatic and passionate negotiator is frankly ludicrous. It's like saying that a toddler is a good negotiator when they're throwing their sippy cup at you and wiping snot on their sleeve whilst they screech for more juice.

Also the idea that in order to "not be a robot" someone has to be "volatile" is a pretty dangerous one, too. Pettiness and unpredictability are not positive character traits and they are a DISASTER in terms of leadership quality.

[Twosugars]

Max Hastings, a Tory, wrote a brilliant piece for the Guardian yesterday, a must read

I have known Johnson since the 1980s, when I edited the Daily Telegraph and he was our flamboyant Brussels correspondent. I have argued for a decade that, while he is a brilliant entertainer who made a popular maître d’ for London as its mayor, he is unfit for national office, because it seems he cares for no interest save his own fame and gratification
A killer quote for me:
Almost the only people who think Johnson a nice guy are those who do not know him.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/24/boris-johnson-prime-minister-tory-party-britain

[joeysteele]

The idea that you need to lose control of your emotions to be a charismatic and passionate negotiator is frankly ludicrous. It's like saying that a toddler is a good negotiator when they're throwing their sippy cup at you and wiping snot on their sleeve whilst they screech for more juice.

Also the idea that in order to "not be a robot" someone has to be "volatile" is a pretty dangerous one, too. Pettiness and unpredictability are not positive character traits and they are a DISASTER in terms of leadership quality.

Absolutely correct.
Volatility in leadership is more likely to increase distrust rather than diminish it.

[bots]

i think you need characters for particular situations, and at the moment, we need someone to fire a rocket off, someone that will shake things up ... i can't stand Boris, but I think he is the right person to have in charge at this moment in time

[thesheriff443]

Boris will do no better than may did, Europe’s stance is our way or the high way.

Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[arista]

That picture was supposedly taken yesterday, a day after he was last seen, if that’s the case, his hair grew a good few inches overnight, Tory media wouldn’t be peddling fake news would they? :omgno:


On LBC also shown live on SkyNewsHD 9:35AM All Out Politics
Nic asked him 26 times about the Photo.
Boris refused to speak of the photo

From Twitter
Wise Liam
Media are saying it was last year Sept 2018

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D95VLYyWwAErIcw.jpg
James had a 5mins of his 10AM
show nicked

[Twosugars]

Oop the picture gate continues
Why such cack handed handling?
Why not simply say we had a row and now are working through it?

[Liam-]

Trump wouldn’t be happy with all this fake news Boris is allowing would he? :hehe:

[Tom4784]

At this point he should just be open about the controversy, avoiding questions as a candidate for PM is not a good look. I do think Jeremy Hunt's chances of winning has skyrocketed.

[Tom4784]

Tell me this then, why is someone being volatile a bad thing? Someone that cares about things and gets emotional, to me is going to be a much better leader than a robot.

We had a robot in May, she carried on regardless of anything happening around her. Boris at least reacts to situations around him and that makes him a much better negotiator for starters. Some people will never be happy. we tried the "strong and stable" approach, where did that get us? An almighty mess, that's where

Generally, when you are leading a country, you don't want to throw a tantrum like a child. We only have to look at the US to see what happens when you elect a volatile manchild to be the leader of a country.