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reece(:
02-07-2019, 12:55 PM
The body of a man that fell from a plane hit the ground just one metre from a man sunbathing in his back garden in London, a neighbour has claimed

Scotland Yard are working to establish the identity of the suspected stowaway, who is thought to have fallen from the landing gear compartment of an inbound Kenya Airways flight to Heathrow Airport.

Police were called on Sunday afternoon to a residential address in Offerton Road, Clapham, after the body was discovered in a garden.

One neighbour described hearing a “whomp” as the body hit the ground, and that the body was an “ice block”.

The neighbour told the Press Association: “I heard a ‘whomp’ – I went upstairs to look out of a window. At first I though it was a tramp asleep in the garden.

“He had all of his clothes on and everything. I had a closer look and saw there was blood all over the walls of the garden.

“His head was not in a good way. I realised immediately that he had fallen.

“So I went outside and it was just then the neighbour came out and he was very shaken.

“He had been sunbathing and he landed one metre away from him.”

Describing the victim, he said: “One of the reasons his body was so intact was because his body was an ice block.”

The neighbour, who asked not to be named, said that a plane spotter, who had been following the flight on an plane tracking app from Clapham Common, had seen the body fall.

He said: “I spoke to Heathrow Airport this morning to ask if they were aware of this.

“If it had been two seconds later, he would have landed on the common where there were hundreds of people – my kids were in the garden 15 minutes before [he fell].

“I spoke to Heathrow. They said this happens once every five years.”

Another neighbour said she had heard a thump, but thought it was falling scaffolding from nearby building works.

Referring to her neighbours, she said: “My heart goes out to them, they’re going to have to live with that for the rest of their lives.”

Officers attended with the London Ambulance Service.

The death is not being treated as suspicious and the crime scene that was put in place has now closed.

A post-mortem examination will be carried out in due course.

Police are now trying to find out who the man was and enquiries are underway to establish the full circumstances.

A bag, water and some food were discovered in the landing gear compartment once it landed at the airport.

In 2012, Jose Matada fell to his death from a British Airways flight inbound from Angola.

Matada, originally from Mozambique, was found on the pavement in East Sheen on September 9.

An inquest into his death heard he is believed to have survived freezing temperatures of up to minus 60C for most of the 12-hour flight.

But he was understood to be “dead or nearly dead” by the time he hit the ground.

In 2015, the body of a man landed on a shop in Richmond having clung on in the undercarriage of a plane from Johannesburg in South Africa to Heathrow.

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I'd be traumatised

Nicky91
02-07-2019, 12:58 PM
i'd have a trauma too if i saw that happen right in front of me

:o

Wizard.
02-07-2019, 12:58 PM
Not this happening once every five years.

Tony Montana
02-07-2019, 01:02 PM
Holy **** that's horrific!

I'd be traumatised too.

Denver
02-07-2019, 01:04 PM
Surely they should be doing checks on planes as it has happened before?

bots
02-07-2019, 01:21 PM
It puts a new meaning on "dropping by" for sure. Clearly airport security is not tight enough in Kenya

arista
02-07-2019, 02:38 PM
It puts a new meaning on "dropping by" for sure. Clearly airport security is not tight enough in Kenya


Yes Kenya
Sloppy nation

RileyH
02-07-2019, 03:11 PM
“I heard a ‘whomp’ – I went upstairs to look out of a window. At first I though it was a tramp asleep in the garden.

me

Marsh.
02-07-2019, 03:14 PM
I had a closer look and saw there was blood all over the walls of the garden.

Omg. :worry:

This made me think of Sarah's death in Hollyoaks where all you saw was blood splattered across the field. I'd honestly need therapy.

Livia
02-07-2019, 03:49 PM
Bloody hell that's grim.

Beso
02-07-2019, 04:26 PM
Don't all the bones smash on impact making anything but a thwomp sound?

Nicky91
02-07-2019, 04:46 PM
Don't all the bones smash on impact making anything but a thwomp sound?

Describing the victim, he said: “One of the reasons his body was so intact was because his body was an ice block.”

here you have your answer i think, his body was intact since he was frozen

Beso
02-07-2019, 04:49 PM
here you have your answer i think, his body was intact since he was frozen

Wouldn't his whole body have shattered into pieces then?

Marsh.
02-07-2019, 04:51 PM
Wouldn't his whole body have shattered into pieces then?

Judging by the explosion of blood, probably.

Nicky91
02-07-2019, 04:52 PM
Wouldn't his whole body have shattered into pieces then?

yeah you would think that, you get shattering into pieces from liquid nitrogen for example


but maybe the air was cold enough for him to ice but not at the degrees of liquid nitrogen :think:


but i'm no science expert, i guess an autopsy on the man could reveal more as to why he was so intact despite being an ''ice block'' as witnesses described

UserSince2005
02-07-2019, 04:59 PM
Last time I was out nairobi airport I couldnt even get a ****ing external battery pack past the entrance, wonder how he managed to sneak into the underside of a plane.

Beso
02-07-2019, 05:17 PM
It is now being treated as a sudden death, met police have reported.

LaLaLand
02-07-2019, 07:42 PM
Jesus this is horrific :skull:

Firewire
02-07-2019, 07:42 PM
Khan's London?

Liam-
02-07-2019, 08:16 PM
This is obviously very tragic, but describing the sound as a ‘whomp’ is making me scream

Oliver_W
02-07-2019, 08:23 PM
Was there a message written on him like Con Air?

Kizzy
02-07-2019, 08:34 PM
Humbling to not have one inkling of what it must feel like to be that desperate to risk a hideous death whether by air or sea.

Oliver_W
02-07-2019, 10:14 PM
Imagine having to clean the garden after that :(

Ammi
03-07-2019, 06:57 AM
...so this is someone who stowed away in the plane ..and jumped before it landed ..(..possibly...)....I just can’t even imagine what some people’s lives are in their need to flea their country in what they think is ‘safety’...horrific, poor man ...and for those surrounding residents of where he fell and their emotional well-being ..:sad:..

Ammi
03-07-2019, 07:04 AM
Was there a message written on him like Con Air?

...I guess the message on all of those whose desperation has them trying to enter countries illegally and risking their own lives and the lives of those they love, would be...’I’m not as fortunate as you, I wasn’t born to be so fortunate as to have hope for a better life in the country I was born...’...

bots
03-07-2019, 07:42 AM
...so this is someone who stowed away in the plane ..and jumped before it landed ..(..possibly...)....I just can’t even imagine what some people’s lives are in their need to flea their country in what they think is ‘safety’...horrific, poor man ...and for those surrounding residents of where he fell and their emotional well-being ..:sad:..

No, i don't think so. The lack of oxygen at that height and the cold/ice will have killed him pretty quickly. Just at some point, his body has fallen from the plane.

This may be a lot more common than we think, just people are lost in unpopulated areas or the sea.

Cal.
03-07-2019, 08:20 AM
Apparently they get thrown because of something to do with the landing gear so it’s a doomed trip anyway :(

Ammi
03-07-2019, 08:26 AM
...but the risk is still taken because of a desperation/despair felt ...?...it’s heartbreaking...

Beso
03-07-2019, 05:51 PM
...but the risk is still taken because of a desperation/despair felt ...?...it’s heartbreaking...

Hi Ammi. :wavey:

It's being reported he was an airport worker. He may have been desperate enough to attempt that, but his sandwiches were found in london when they checked the aparatus.

Imagine if he was just skiving off work and having a nap.

Ammi
03-07-2019, 07:14 PM
Hi Ammi. :wavey:

It's being reported he was an airport worker. He may have been desperate enough to attempt that, but his sandwiches were found in london when they checked the aparatus.

Imagine if he was just skiving off work and having a nap.

...it’s thought that he may have been a Nairobi airport worker...(...hence access to the plane...)...but he was still a ‘stowaway’ though, so far as is known...poor guy, the whole thing is just terrifying to think about...

Nicky91
04-07-2019, 06:56 AM
5gI7YXndKt8

Firewire
04-07-2019, 07:45 AM
...so this is someone who stowed away in the plane ..and jumped before it landed ..(..possibly...)....I just can’t even imagine what some people’s lives are in their need to flea their country in what they think is ‘safety’...horrific, poor man ...and for those surrounding residents of where he fell and their emotional well-being ..:sad:..

They fell when the landing gear opened

Livia
04-07-2019, 11:44 AM
It gets as cold as minus 40-50 at height, that's without the mechanism maybe crushing him as the wheels lift and the high chance of falling. As he worked at an airport I'm going to assume he had an idea of how it would go, so I'm going 1% for desperation (although some immediately assume this) and 99% for stupidity.

user104658
04-07-2019, 11:53 AM
It gets as cold as minus 40-50 at height, that's without the mechanism maybe crushing him as the wheels lift and the high chance of falling. As he worked at an airport I'm going to assume he had an idea of how it would go, so I'm going 1% for desperation (although some immediately assume this) and 99% for stupidity.

He surely must be miscellaneous airport staff (baggage handling maybe?) and not aircraft maintenance or an engineer or anything like that because, as you say, someone with any knowledge of aircraft would know that this is unsurvivable without a tonne of thermal equipment and an oxygen supply. If he's unskilled staff it would sadly be down to a lack of education and understanding of the conditions at altitude rather than stupidity pre se.

On the positive side; he would have passed out pretty quickly from the dropping pressure and lack of oxygen, so I doubt he suffered for long.

Livia
04-07-2019, 11:57 AM
He surely must be miscellaneous airport staff (baggage handling maybe?) and not aircraft maintenance or an engineer or anything like that because, as you say, someone with any knowledge of aircraft would know that this is unsurvivable without a tonne of thermal equipment and an oxygen supply. If he's unskilled staff it would sadly be down to a lack of education and understanding of the conditions at altitude rather than stupidity pre se.

On the positive side; he would have passed out pretty quickly from the dropping pressure and lack of oxygen, so I doubt he suffered for long.

You call it lack of education and understanding of the conditions at altitude, I call it stupidity.

user104658
04-07-2019, 12:02 PM
You call it lack of education and understanding of the conditions at altitude, I call it stupidity.

I suppose. Though 500 years ago, people far smarter than you or I wouldn't have had any idea what conditions are like at 30,000 feet :shrug:. It's just lack of general knowledge which doesn't really say anything about intelligence IMO. Some of the smartest people I know are severely lacking in some areas of what seems like really basic knowledge.

Beso
04-07-2019, 01:28 PM
I strongly believe he was having a nap during work hours..perhaps an extended break.

caprimint
04-07-2019, 01:36 PM
This is so sad, but is it bad that I laughed at the way it was described? :(

Northern Monkey
04-07-2019, 03:20 PM
James Bond irl.

You’d **** your pants if you were sat out catching some rays and a frozen guy just came flying out the sky and landed next to you though.

Livia
05-07-2019, 10:44 AM
I suppose. Though 500 years ago, people far smarter than you or I wouldn't have had any idea what conditions are like at 30,000 feet :shrug:. It's just lack of general knowledge which doesn't really say anything about intelligence IMO. Some of the smartest people I know are severely lacking in some areas of what seems like really basic knowledge.


This man wasn't born 500 years ago. He has access to the Internet... it's Kenya, not China. I'm sure he could read, even if he did the most menial of jobs. And he worked at an airport. Someone who is going to embark on a journey like he did must surely have looked into how it might go? It's not like this is the first person who's tried it. Sounds pretty stupid to me, and his dead body falling thousands of feet kind of punctuates that fact.