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Denver
05-07-2019, 03:23 PM
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tommy-robinson-facing-jail-after-being-found-in-contempt-of-court-151741621.html?guccounter=2
2 years isnt enough
SherzyK
05-07-2019, 03:25 PM
A common thug, he deserves a life sentence
Vicky.
05-07-2019, 03:28 PM
But the law should not apply to him! Because..reasons! Protest, protest. So unfair. Muslims. Rargh.
Twosugars
05-07-2019, 03:32 PM
There's a surprise. A common thug.
Elliot
05-07-2019, 03:33 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/333c0c4d68012bc22b16e43dba35f0ad/tenor.gif?itemid=8177056
arista
05-07-2019, 03:35 PM
His Legal team ask for more time
Mitchell
05-07-2019, 03:37 PM
Good!
Oh he was filming the child groomers
GiRTh
05-07-2019, 04:08 PM
Great news. Justice in done.
Liam-
05-07-2019, 04:09 PM
His Legal team ask for more time
That’s good of them, give him 10 years!
Im more concerned in what these disgusting child groomers get tbh.
Oliver_W
05-07-2019, 04:37 PM
Jail time for live streaming outside a courthouse?
If someone raised charges for assault I could understand, but getting him for something so trivial smacks of agenda.
Tom4784
05-07-2019, 05:06 PM
Jail time for live streaming outside a courthouse?
If someone raised charges for assault I could understand, but getting him for something so trivial smacks of agenda.
You can't film outside of a courthouse when there are restrictions in place, to do so risks a mistrial or sensitive information such as the victims' identities being revealed. Robinson's actions could have easily caused a mistrial which would have drawn out the nightmare for the victims.
Robinson pretty much risked justice for the victims in order to raise his own profile and it's disgusting and I hope he gets those two years.
Perhaps a better idea would be to have a big fat transvestite reporting on these grooming gangs, then the focus would be on what it was supposed to be on and not the fat bastard bringing it to our attention.
Oliver_W
05-07-2019, 05:24 PM
You can't film outside of a courthouse when there are restrictions in place, to do so risks a mistrial or sensitive information such as the victims' identities being revealed. Robinson's actions could have easily caused a mistrial which would have drawn out the nightmare for the victims.
Robinson pretty much risked justice for the victims in order to raise his own profile and it's disgusting and I hope he gets those two years.
He could plead ignorance, which many would agree is probably true.
I didn't know it was illegal to film outside courthouses - I'd probably guess that it is if the question came up, but I never knew it offhand. Robinson just probably didn't know it was illegal, and if he knew the possible repercussions for the victims he probably wouldn't have done it.
He could plead ignorance, which many would agree is probably true.
I didn't know it was illegal to film outside courthouses - I'd probably guess that it is if the question came up, but I never knew it offhand. Robinson just probably didn't know it was illegal, and if he knew the possible repercussions for the victims he probably wouldn't have done it.
Cetainly not if he knew it could have caused a mistrial....but his whole reason for being there was to show the faces of these brutal paedophiles for all to see...a bit like the paedophile hunters who get praised by many...yes he was willing to face consequences whilst filming..and perhaps after..but I doubt it was to raise his own profile...more to do with outing these beasts...who btw...all walked to court..none were brought up the stairs.
Kazanne
05-07-2019, 05:29 PM
Im more concerned in what these disgusting child groomers get tbh.
probably a slap on the wrist.
Tom4784
05-07-2019, 05:38 PM
He could plead ignorance, which many would agree is probably true.
I didn't know it was illegal to film outside courthouses - I'd probably guess that it is if the question came up, but I never knew it offhand. Robinson just probably didn't know it was illegal, and if he knew the possible repercussions for the victims he probably wouldn't have done it.
It's only illegal if there are restrictions in place which is usually the case when it involves minors and/or sexual abuse because of the anonymity afforded to the victims in both circumstances.
I believe he was warned that it was illegal multiple times, I remember reading that when it happened. He just valued his livestream numbers more than the law or justice.
Tom4784
05-07-2019, 05:40 PM
Cetainly not if he knew it could have caused a mistrial....but his whole reason for being there was to show the faces of these brutal paedophiles for all to see...a bit like the paedophile hunters who get praised by many...yes he was willing to face consequences whilst filming..and perhaps after..but I doubt it was to raise his own profile...more to do with outing these beasts...who btw...all walked to court..none were brought up the stairs.
Let's not pretend he did it for anything other than attention for his videos and streams.
The difference between peadophile hunters (when it's done right) and Tommy Robinson is that the latter aren't in it to make money, they remain anonymous and operate within the law to ensure justice is served, Tommy Robinson risking justice for those victims in order to get more views is not the same.
It's only illegal if there are restrictions in place which is usually the case when it involves minors and/or sexual abuse because of the anonymity afforded to the victims in both circumstances.
I believe he was warned that it was illegal multiple times, I remember reading that when it happened. He just valued his livestream numbers more than the law or justice.
That's true..I remember that as well..
The police should have stopped him long before he got his camera out if they knew...so if they didn't you should ask why.
Let's not pretend he did it for anything other than attention for his videos and streams.
The difference between peadophile hunters (when it's done right) and Tommy Robinson is that the latter aren't in it to make money, they remain anonymous and operate within the law to ensure justice is served, Tommy Robinson risking justice for those victims in order to get more views is not the same.
You can buy paedophile hunter merchandise.
Edit..you can't. ...surprised at that to be honest.
Twosugars
05-07-2019, 05:43 PM
Lock him up!
Forget the peado's, lets just go after tommy r bc it's tommy r.
So sad
Let's not pretend he did it for anything other than attention for his videos and streams.
The difference between peadophile hunters (when it's done right) and Tommy Robinson is that the latter aren't in it to make money, they remain anonymous and operate within the law to ensure justice is served, Tommy Robinson risking justice for those victims in order to get more views is not the same.
I dunno dezzy...you do make a good point about the money, but he has put himself into a sticky situation for something he believes on, I think you underplay that side of him a bit.
Let's face it, we should all be outside that building right now if these men are guilty of the charges brought before them.
Twosugars
05-07-2019, 05:47 PM
Forget the peado's, lets just go after tommy r bc it's tommy r.
So sad
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Let's not pretend he did it for anything other than attention for his videos and streams.
The difference between peadophile hunters (when it's done right) and Tommy Robinson is that the latter aren't in it to make money, they remain anonymous and operate within the law to ensure justice is served, Tommy Robinson risking justice for those victims in order to get more views is not the same.
The left view would be different if this wasn't Tommy R.
I don''t give a **** about the man, but seriously?! THESE MEN RAPED CHILDREN.
I still can't believe that these men may face a long long time in jail yet none were held before trial..
Were any off the past cases involving muslim grooming gangs held in prison before trial?
I don't know
Tom4784
05-07-2019, 05:51 PM
The left view would be different if this wasn't Tommy R.
I don''t give a **** about the man, but seriously?! THESE MEN RAPED CHILDREN.
Tell me something, what did Tommy Robinson do to help this case? To help this trial? Tell me.
The left view would be different if this wasn't Tommy R.
I don''t give a **** about the man, but seriously?! THESE MEN RAPED CHILDREN.
That's how any half righted thinking person would think...but don't lose your **** about it you might get banned for a day.
Priorities are seriously worrying in this thread, what a state our country is in, and yeah Parm i'm leaving this thread now.
Worrying times!
Tell me something, what did Tommy Robinson do to help this case? To help this trial? Tell me.
Nothing. ..but it looks like he was allowed to keep doing it again again and again by the authorities so they could come to this conclusion...he ain't stupid.
He still did it....and that should be applauded....blame the authorities if it effects the case.
Priorities are seriously worrying in this thread, what a state our country is in, and yeah Parm i'm leaving this thread now.
Worrying times!
Don't worry Swan.
Just glide off gracefully and flap those wings another day.
Elliot
05-07-2019, 06:04 PM
Priorities are seriously worrying
i know right! complaining about gay people existing when theres child grooming in the world, the nerve!
JoshBB
05-07-2019, 06:06 PM
Are we supposed to feel sorry for him?? lmao
Vicky.
05-07-2019, 06:08 PM
The left view would be different if this wasn't Tommy R.
I don''t give a **** about the man, but seriously?! THESE MEN RAPED CHILDREN.
Its not about defending the men, god no. They deserve anything they get.
Its about Tommys actions potentially letting the men get away with it! And the victims identified also.
i know right! complaining about gay people existing when theres child grooming in the world, the nerve!
I did NOT complain about gay people existing, really digging now arent we lol.
Be factual correct before posting about my last thread. Thanks.
Its not about defending the men, god no. They deserve anything they get.
Its about Tommys actions potentially letting the men get away with it! And the victims identified also.
What about the police allowing tommy to do it.
Twosugars
05-07-2019, 06:41 PM
i know right! complaining about gay people existing when theres child grooming in the world, the nerve!
Priorities huh
user104658
05-07-2019, 06:46 PM
Priorities are seriously worrying in this thread, what a state our country is in, and yeah Parm i'm leaving this thread now.
Worrying times!You can condemn the men on trial and condemn the idiot that nearly got them a mistrial at the same time :hee:
Priorities huh
Remember that place you needed to go to?
Vicky.
05-07-2019, 06:51 PM
What about the police allowing tommy to do it.
If the police purposely allowed him to do it, they are wrong too :shrug: Mind, I am not sure what powers they would actually have to arrest him at the time? IDK. Either way, not opposed to distributing blame for everyone who was a dick in this.
You can condemn the men on trial and condemn the idiot that nearly got them a mistrial at the same time :hee:
Exactly. Its not either or.
thesheriff443
05-07-2019, 07:06 PM
Jail sentence for this but child molesters are being give cautions or nfa’s , no further action.
Lose your head over tommy when you should be losing it over the none existent justice system.
Has any of those police officers that turned a blind eye to child abuse for years because it was Muslim men doing it been sacked or jailed.
Oliver_W
05-07-2019, 07:09 PM
Jail sentence for this but child molesters are being give cautions or nfa’s , no further action.
Lose your head over tommy when you should be losing it over the none existent justice system.
Has any of those police officers that turned a blind eye to child abuse for years because it was Muslim men doing it been sacked or jailed.
Maybe Robinson should claim filming outside courthouses is part of his culture?
Jordan.
05-07-2019, 07:11 PM
Yu2k2hlWYMU
If the police purposely allowed him to do it, they are wrong too :shrug: Mind, I am not sure what powers they would actually have to arrest him at the time? IDK. Either way, not opposed to distributing blame for everyone who was a dick in this.
Exactly. Its not either or.
Well it is the polices job to prevent crime...and someone mentioned he had been warned 3 times previously..
I'm sure banning orders are a thing. They could have been used if his presence could have impacted the trial. ..but no...Let's let him do it 4 times to bury the case and arrest a prominent hate figure..to make the government look good.
thesheriff443
05-07-2019, 07:19 PM
Maybe Robinson shoild claim filming outside courthouses is part lf his culture?
It’s politics, British government knew every member of the ira.
Tom4784
05-07-2019, 08:21 PM
Priorities are seriously worrying in this thread, what a state our country is in, and yeah Parm i'm leaving this thread now.
Worrying times!
Yes, how dare we be happy that someone who broke the law and endangered justice for the victims of horrific sexual abuse is facing the just punishment they deserve!
Consider that the reason you're complaining about this country being in a 'state' is because the law was upheld.
Tom4784
05-07-2019, 08:26 PM
Nothing. ..but it looks like he was allowed to keep doing it again again and again by the authorities so they could come to this conclusion...he ain't stupid.
He still did it....and that should be applauded....blame the authorities if it effects the case.
He should be applauded for risking the anonymity of sexual abuse victims and their justice? The authorities are to blame for upholding the law and for him not taking multiple warnings seriously? Do you not see the logical gymnastics you are trying to do right now? You also seem to be confused as to what warnings are, warnings are not permission to carry on what you were doing before they are... well... warnings... It's purely illogical to blame the police for uploading the law when he had warnings not to do what he CHOSE to do repeatedly.
Will you ever actually hold Tommy Robinson responsible for his own actions or will it always be someone else's fault?
user104658
05-07-2019, 08:34 PM
The argument that if the police don't stop someone from committing a crime before they've committed it, then the crime is the fault of the police and not the perpetrator of the crime, takes so much twisting and squirming that its actually hilarious.
Vicky.
05-07-2019, 09:48 PM
Well it is the polices job to prevent crime...and someone mentioned he had been warned 3 times previously..
I'm sure banning orders are a thing. They could have been used if his presence could have impacted the trial. ..but no...Let's let him do it 4 times to bury the case and arrest a prominent hate figure..to make the government look good.
So the police did warn him about it. But he ignored the warnings, and thats the polices fault?
At least the 3 warnings show that it was not some conspiracy to just lock up a hated figure, as it shows there was chance after chance given before prosecution was brought :shrug:
AnnieK
05-07-2019, 10:08 PM
So the police did warn him about it. But he ignored the warnings, and thats the polices fault?
At least the 3 warnings show that it was not some conspiracy to just lock up a hated figure, as it shows there was chance after chance given before prosecution was brought :shrug:
:clap1:
Yes, how dare we be happy that someone who broke the law and endangered justice for the victims of horrific sexual abuse is facing the just punishment they deserve!
Consider that the reason you're complaining about this country being in a 'state' is because the law was upheld.
Yeah, the UK is screwed!
Tom4784
06-07-2019, 01:52 AM
Yeah, the UK is screwed!
I think it'll survive if Tommy Robinson is justly locked up for breaking the law after multiple warnings.
...when there are reporting restrictions in place, the law has put them in place for a reason...so long as Tommy Robinson thinks he can apply his own law as he chooses and thinks that he’s above and apart from the U.K. laws...then that really would lead to a ‘screwed’ country...it seems to me if we followed his mindset and his ‘law’...we’d be looking at lynch mobs and the like...
if it were anyone other than TR interfering with the justice system and jeopardising the convictions of child rapists, those supporting him would be demanding blood
Elliot
06-07-2019, 06:36 AM
Yeah, the UK is screwed!
the uk is screwed because someone should be punished for breaking the law? and yes please do tell us how you don't care for tommy yet think he's above the law some more! reminds me of people who are like 'i don't like trump at all, don't get me twisted! but i agree with everything he says, support everything he does and think that everyone that criticises him remotely is a loser!'
if it were anyone other than TR interfering with the justice system and jeopardising the convictions of child rapists, those supporting him would be demanding blood
...yeah if we don’t have the justice system, we fairly much are all screwed, bots...Tommy Robinson seems to feel as though he can apply his own system...’his own laws’...and that’s where he has to be told...NO, not on the law’s watch you don’t....
...there is a due process which he seems to feel he’s above and superior to...
the uk is screwed because someone should be punished for breaking the law? and yes please do tell us how you don't care for tommy yet think he's above the law some more! reminds me of people who are like 'i don't like trump at all, don't get me twisted! but i agree with everything he says, support everything he does and think that everyone that criticises him remotely is a loser!'
Im on his side here, i think paedophiles should be exposed. As for the Trump 'fans' i don't follow US politics so im indifferent. But from what i saw during the US election i felt bad for US voters having two terrible choices.
smudgie
06-07-2019, 11:07 AM
Throw the key away.:shrug:
Absolute twit thinks he is above the law, to the point that he would risk convictions for the pervs on trial just as long as he gets his 5 minutes of fame:fist:
Vicky.
06-07-2019, 11:11 AM
Im on his side here, i think paedophiles should be exposed. As for the Trump 'fans' i don't follow US politics so im indifferent. But from what i saw during the US election i felt bad for US voters having two terrible choices.
Again though, its not about exposing pedos. I doubt anyone would be opposed to that. I mean, look at how popular the likes of dark justice are..I know some are against them for many reasons, but on the whole they are viewed as positve..as they expose pedos, but within the law. Its about endangering actual trials thats going on. And it being about nothing more than raising your profile in reality, not about exposing paedos. And playing victim really, as he knew he had had warnings, carried on then cries when prosecuted that its all so unfair and hes targeted!
Oliver_W
06-07-2019, 12:02 PM
If he does end up behind bars I hope he's protected, those places are full of muslim gangs who'll probably try to attack him for saying mean things about their religion...
Liam-
06-07-2019, 12:10 PM
If he does end up behind bars I hope he's protected, those places are full of muslim gangs who'll probably try to attack him for saying mean things about their religion...
No worries, he’ll be protected by all the other brain dead far right thugs in there
Elliot
06-07-2019, 12:14 PM
if you can't do the time don't do the crime :p
Vicky.
06-07-2019, 12:28 PM
If he does end up behind bars I hope he's protected, those places are full of muslim gangs who'll probably try to attack him for saying mean things about their religion...
But but..I thought they were all let off because they were Muslim?
Thats what Tommy says isn't it? Its not possible for prisons to be both full of Muslim gangs, whilst no Muslim ever gets locked up because they are protected and can do what they like.
Oliver_W
06-07-2019, 12:35 PM
But but..I thought they were all let off because they were Muslim?
Thats what Tommy says isn't it? Its not possible for prisons to be both full of Muslim gangs, whilst no Muslim ever gets locked up because they are protected and can do what they like.
Tommy can say what he likes, but I'm sure we'd all agree that Tommy saying it doesn't make it true.
Vicky.
06-07-2019, 12:38 PM
Tommy can say what he likes, but I'm sure we'd all agree that Tommy saying it doesn't make it true.
True true :p
Tom4784
06-07-2019, 01:55 PM
Im on his side here, i think paedophiles should be exposed. As for the Trump 'fans' i don't follow US politics so im indifferent. But from what i saw during the US election i felt bad for US voters having two terrible choices.
You are refusing to see the forest for the trees.
The problem here is that coverage on the trial was restricted for the sake of the victims, Tommy Robinson pushing a camera in everyone's faces outside of the court risks both justice and anonymity for the victims.
As for 'exposing' peadophiles, the news coverage after the trial concluded would have done that without Robinson risking a mistrial. Robinson was there for nothing more than his own self promotion. Nothing he would have done there would have affected the trial for the better but it definitely could have made things worse for the victims.
If you place some false 'exposure' of peadophiles over the safety of their victims then.... Well that speaks for itself.
Withano
06-07-2019, 02:28 PM
Literally just deport the scum that can’t abide to our British laws imo.
Kazanne
06-07-2019, 03:26 PM
Literally just deport the scum that can’t abide to our British laws imo.
Our British 'laws' are a bloody joke.
Kizzy
06-07-2019, 08:55 PM
Has this happened before? He seems targeted but in fairness who before has done this kind of ' exposing' and actually got media exposure? . . If it was anyone else it wouldn't have gotten the coverage that's not to say what he did was right. To compromise a trial is wrong, wait for the judgement and then shout about whatever it is and whoever it is.
Withano
07-07-2019, 09:49 AM
Our British 'laws' are a bloody joke.
Do you abide to them like me or do you break them like Tommy.
arista
11-07-2019, 09:58 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1149244294135500800/IaSpnHAJ?format=jpg&name=600x314
Back in Court today
His T-Shirt not correct
he was told to stay away from the Evil Muslim Group of Pedophiles
in Court.
He broke the Law.
Withano
11-07-2019, 10:25 AM
He’s just a bit thick ent he.
AnnieK
11-07-2019, 10:27 AM
Apparently he asked America for political aslyum so he wouldn't face jail here. A man against immigrants wanting to be one elsewhere, you can't make it up.
Kizzy
11-07-2019, 10:33 AM
The far right isn't as established here yet, just wait till the j dog gets in... the dark side will out.
He’s been jailed for 9 months
Robinson jailed over contempt of court https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48950672
Denver
11-07-2019, 10:45 AM
He will only serve about 10 weeks though
Jordan.
11-07-2019, 11:07 AM
Yu2k2hlWYMU
https://i.imgur.com/I71FPM4.gif
Oliver_W
11-07-2019, 11:08 AM
Apparently he asked America for political aslyum so he wouldn't face jail here. A man against immigrants wanting to be one elsewhere, you can't make it up.
Hard to blame him, his life would probably be in danger in British jails from a muslim gang.
Have you ever even listened to him? He's not against all immigration.
Livia
11-07-2019, 11:19 AM
It does not surprise me that people seem to be more outraged about Robinson than about the Muslim gangs who have groomed and raped young, vulnerable girls because they are white.
These gangs got away with it for so long, and still continue to get away with it, because the rapists have been protected for the sake of race relations.
And yes, if Robinson is sent to a British jail, he will be at risk from Muslims.
Tom4784
11-07-2019, 11:58 AM
It does not surprise me that people seem to be more outraged about Robinson than about the Muslim gangs who have groomed and raped young, vulnerable girls because they are white.
These gangs got away with it for so long, and still continue to get away with it, because the rapists have been protected for the sake of race relations.
And yes, if Robinson is sent to a British jail, he will be at risk from Muslims.
A silly argument.
It's not one or the other, you can be both mad at Tommy Robinson for risking the victim's justice for his own benefit and be outraged about the peadophile gang. It's completely disingenuous to make out that either are mutually exclusive. You want to make out that anyone who opposes Tommy Robinson is somehow sympathetic to rapists and it's a disgusting and desperate thing to do.
Tom4784
11-07-2019, 12:01 PM
Apparently he asked America for political aslyum so he wouldn't face jail here. A man against immigrants wanting to be one elsewhere, you can't make it up.
He's white so he probably doesn't consider himself an immigrant or a hypocrite since he only opposes people with brown skin.
Hard to blame him, his life would probably be in danger in British jails from a muslim gang.
Have you ever even listened to him? He's not against all immigration.
The pampered little prince will be perfectly fine, honestly this whole victim narrative of how he'll be attacked is ridiculous. There's plenty of likeminded racists inside he can make friends with.
Elliot
11-07-2019, 12:04 PM
bye bitch
Liam-
11-07-2019, 12:09 PM
He’ll be protected by the other facist thugs that are in there
arista
11-07-2019, 12:11 PM
He will only serve about 10 weeks though
Lucky Sod
arista
11-07-2019, 12:12 PM
He’ll be protected by the other facist thugs that are in there
Sure he can give them
all a New Email.
Kazanne
11-07-2019, 12:15 PM
Now can we get the dirty vile bastards that groomed white girls as they are deemed as trash,where is the outrage about that? About time they were slung in jail and the key thrown away, dirty rotten pervs, and they deserve far more Jail time than TR,people on here were up in arms about a friend of Trumps with pics of young girls etc (allegedly) saying what scum they were,but not much said about the vile scum grooming kids for sex. Go figure.
arista
11-07-2019, 12:16 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_MDiqeWwAALkto.jpg
Katie found time to comfort him.
No Jury
Just Judges
arista
11-07-2019, 12:20 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_MLqAIWwAA-v9X.jpg
Another Special T -Shirt
Liam-
11-07-2019, 12:27 PM
The fact he’s wearing that with pride and a smile shows just how scummy he is, his poor kids
Livia
11-07-2019, 12:36 PM
Now can we get the dirty vile bastards that groomed white girls as they are deemed as trash,where is the outrage about that? About time they were slung in jail and the key thrown away, dirty rotten pervs, and they deserve far more Jail time than TR,people on here were up in arms about a friend of Trumps with pics of young girls etc (allegedly) saying what scum they were,but not much said about the vile scum grooming kids for sex. Go figure.
It's all deflection. All the press is focused on one man while the paedos are ignored. This is precisely the kind of deflection that allowed those filthy b*astards to get away with abusing white girls for so long. The filthy Pakistanis who carried out these terrible crimes, with their third world view of white women, they should be returned en masse to their place of origin, and those born here should die in prison. Tommy Robinson, by comparison, should be only a footnote.
Livia
11-07-2019, 12:39 PM
The fact he’s wearing that with pride and a smile shows just how scummy he is, his poor kids
HIS poor kids? Don't make me laugh!
What about the girls who were the victims of the Pakistani gangs? What about THOSE poor kids? Little mention of that on here, just the usual outrage.
Liam-
11-07-2019, 12:40 PM
You’re both very angry at the thought of these ‘men’ getting off the charges (which they didn’t btw, they’re going to prison) so where’s your anger at Mr. Robinson potentially causing the trial to collapse due to his actions, which would have lead the ‘men’ walking free from court? Or is that okay to you?
You seem to be confusing people condemning him with supporting the gangs, purposely I assume.
Livia
11-07-2019, 12:48 PM
You’re both very angry at the thought of these ‘men’ getting off the charges (which they didn’t btw, they’re going to prison) so where’s your anger at Mr. Robinson potentially causing the trial to collapse due to his actions, which would have lead the ‘men’ walking free from court? Or is that okay to you?
You seem to be confusing people condemning him with supporting the gangs, purposely I assume.
He was prosecuted before the trial could collapse.
That's what happened.
I'm not confused, Liam. I know how the law works thanks.
What I also know is, the trial dealt with young, vulnerable white girls raped by Pakistanis, a crime that had been covered up for years by people not wanting a race riot.
But your sympathy is for Tommy Robinson's kids.
Liam-
11-07-2019, 12:54 PM
I do feel sorry for his kids yes, they’re probably going to learn by example and become horrible little bigots just like daddy and it won’t be their fault, it’ll be his, so yes, I do have sympathy from them.
Does that mean I can’t have sympathy for other people? No it doesn’t.
Livia
11-07-2019, 12:58 PM
I do feel sorry for his kids yes, they’re probably going to learn by example and become horrible little bigots just like daddy and it won’t be their fault, it’ll be his, so yes, I do have sympathy from them.
Does that mean I can’t have sympathy for other people? No it doesn’t.
That's all well and good, but you're trying desperately to separate these two stories but the fact is that they are inextricably linked. Nice try though.
Kazanne
11-07-2019, 01:01 PM
It's all deflection. All the press is focused on one man while the paedos are ignored. This is precisely the kind of deflection that allowed those filthy b*astards to get away with abusing white girls for so long. The filthy Pakistanis who carried out these terrible crimes, with their third world view of white women, they should be returned en masse to their place of origin, and those born here should die in prison. Tommy Robinson, by comparison, should be only a footnote.
Cannot add to that Livia brilliant post, :wavey:
Liam-
11-07-2019, 01:02 PM
That's all well and good, but you're trying desperately to separate these two stories but the fact is that they are inextricably linked. Nice try though.
How am I trying to separate the cases? He’s going to prison for purposely putting the trial at risk to push his own bigoted agenda, I’m fully aware that the cases are linked :laugh:
Livia
11-07-2019, 01:07 PM
How am I trying to separate the cases? He’s going to prison for purposely putting the trial at risk to push his own bigoted agenda, I’m fully aware that the cases are linked :laugh:
We're not going to agree on this one, are we.
I'm not as outraged by Robinson as you are because I don't think he's as dangerous as you do.
Anyhoo… always nice chatting with you Liam, even though we rarely agree.
Firewire
11-07-2019, 01:10 PM
Hope he rots
Tom4784
11-07-2019, 02:13 PM
Now can we get the dirty vile bastards that groomed white girls as they are deemed as trash,where is the outrage about that? About time they were slung in jail and the key thrown away, dirty rotten pervs, and they deserve far more Jail time than TR,people on here were up in arms about a friend of Trumps with pics of young girls etc (allegedly) saying what scum they were,but not much said about the vile scum grooming kids for sex. Go figure.
I'll quote to you what I said to Livia who made the same argument.
A silly argument.
It's not one or the other, you can be both mad at Tommy Robinson for risking the victim's justice for his own benefit and be outraged about the peadophile gang. It's completely disingenuous to make out that either are mutually exclusive. You want to make out that anyone who opposes Tommy Robinson is somehow sympathetic to rapists and it's a disgusting and desperate thing to do.
Your attempts to use these victimss suffering to lash out at people you dislike on here is utterly vile.
Also as you are more outraged about Tommy Robinson to know the outcome of the Leeds case, they got a collective 220 years in prison and a number of them have life sentences, thankfully. Perhaps you should read up on the case before you make out that the gang got away scott free.
Kizzy
11-07-2019, 02:18 PM
He couldve compromised the whole trial and let them walk free! ... That's what he was on trial for, yes it's Tommy Robinson but it could've been anyone... anyone who did that would've gotten the same treatment, I doubt it would've gotten the same exposure but to jeopardise a whole trial? He has to be held accountable for that.
Tom4784
11-07-2019, 02:25 PM
He couldve compromised the whole trial and let them walk free! ... That's what he was on trial for, yes it's Tommy Robinson but it could've been anyone... anyone who did that would've gotten the same treatment, I doubt it would've gotten the same exposure but to jeopardise a whole trial? He has to be held accountable for that.
But it's Tommy Robinson, the law shouldn't apply to him because he is the sole person shedding light on that gang! If it wasn't for him pointing his almighty gaze Leeds' way then the law wouldn't have gotten their act together and got a case together! Saint Tommy is the only person taking a stand against these people!!!!
Denver
11-07-2019, 02:27 PM
So his supporters attacked journalists with weapons and hurled smoke bombs at him when he was sentenced
Tom4784
11-07-2019, 02:30 PM
So his supporters attacked journalists with weapons and hurled smoke bombs at him when he was sentenced
A yob attracts more yobs, it's no surprise if his supporters have resorted to violence.
Oliver_W
11-07-2019, 02:30 PM
The pampered little prince will be perfectly fine, honestly this whole victim narrative of how he'll be attacked is ridiculous. There's plenty of likeminded racists inside he can make friends with.
So you think it'll be different to his previous visits, like the one when his teeth were knocked out?
Denver
11-07-2019, 02:32 PM
So you think it'll be different to his previous visits, like the one when his teeth were knocked out?
A situation which he cause himself
Elliot
11-07-2019, 02:32 PM
So you think it'll be different to his previous visits, like the one when his teeth were knocked out?
should prob stop getting himself put in jail then lololol
Tom4784
11-07-2019, 02:39 PM
So you think it'll be different to his previous visits, like the one when his teeth were knocked out?
Given his history of inciting reactions and then playing the victim, I doubt any story in which he claims to be the victim without proof. He has made a living in goading reactions from others and then framing that reaction as an unprovoked response. Chances are, knowing that, if he is attacked in prison, he will have probably provoked it in some way.
As others have said, if he didn't break the law and find himself in prison so often, he wouldn't be in any pretend danger. He is the master of his own destiny and he makes his own choices. His supporters need to stop expecting everyone else to bear responsibility for his actions. He's a grown ass man ffs.
Kizzy
11-07-2019, 02:40 PM
But it's Tommy Robinson, the law shouldn't apply to him because he is the sole person shedding light on that gang! If it wasn't for him pointing his almighty gaze Leeds' way then the law wouldn't have gotten their act together and got a case together! Saint Tommy is the only person taking a stand against these people!!!!
Yes, we had predator exposure here in Leeds but I think they got a bit too close to someone and they had to be stopped :/ funny how those who were balking at their vigilante style are championing Tommy for his?....
arista
11-07-2019, 02:57 PM
So his supporters attacked journalists with weapons and hurled smoke bombs at him when he was sentenced
One picked up a Tripod from a Photographer
Denver
11-07-2019, 03:16 PM
One picked up a Tripod from a Photographer
Yes then went to attack them with it
...it’s good and right and justice that he’s been held accountable for feeling he was above the law which was trying the case...his thoughts and actions are only ever for himself ...well done to the U.K. justice system...:love:...
Matthew.
11-07-2019, 03:32 PM
“#FreeTommy” is trending on Twitter :facepalm:
Oliver_W
11-07-2019, 03:39 PM
“#FreeTommy” is trending on Twitter :facepalm:
After a quick scroll it seems the trend is mostly being carried by people bitching about the hashtag itself, rather than earnest tweets :laugh:
Denver
11-07-2019, 03:47 PM
His supporters are supporters of racism
Oliver_W
11-07-2019, 08:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_MLqAIWwAA-v9X.jpg
Another Special T -Shirt
The fact he’s wearing that with pride and a smile shows just how scummy he is, his poor kids
I'm not really sure if you actually think he wore that or not, but ... he didn't. That's an edit :)
Liam-
11-07-2019, 08:25 PM
I'm not really sure if you actually think he wore that or not, but ... he didn't. That's an edit :)
Ah, well it’s a very good one then :joker:
Still feel sorry for his kids though
Oliver_W
11-07-2019, 08:31 PM
Ah, well it’s a very good one then :joker:
Still feel sorry for his kids though
To be fair he's dumb enough to wear something like that :joker:
I feel sorry for his kids too - no-one wants to see their dad go in and out of jail all the time, and they probably get stick at school for their dad's actions, even if they're completely innocent
Kizzy
11-07-2019, 08:37 PM
Yep can you imagine having a dad so hate filled he'd rather go out to a city centre screaming about Muslims than spend time with you of a weekend? ...Poor kids
UserSince2005
11-07-2019, 08:46 PM
bet he gets bummed in prison, hes a bit of a cutie
Livia is absolutely spot on with every point they make in this thread.
Livia
12-07-2019, 09:43 AM
Livia is absolutely spot on with every point they make in this thread.
Thank you, Swan. I am not a Robinson fan, but to watch all the lefties, who get so bent out of shape at any suggestion of violence in their own ranks, actively supporting Robinson get beaten in prison is sickening, but predictable. People died for us to be able to stand up and air our views, but obviously that only really applies to the Left.
Thank you, Swan. I am not a Robinson fan, but to watch all the lefties, who get so bent out of shape at any suggestion of violence in their own ranks, actively supporting Robinson get beaten in prison is sickening, but predictable. People died for us to be able to stand up and air our views, but obviously that only really applies to the Left.
Yes i don't care much for Robinson either, and seeing him with the vile Hopkins really does put me off. But yes it's because it's Robinson, the twisting and diverting is actually rather unsettling.
Vicky.
12-07-2019, 10:15 AM
Thank you, Swan. I am not a Robinson fan, but to watch all the lefties, who get so bent out of shape at any suggestion of violence in their own ranks, actively supporting Robinson get beaten in prison is sickening, but predictable. People died for us to be able to stand up and air our views, but obviously that only really applies to the Left.
Erm, I don't see that on here?
Only person who seems a little happy about it..is right wing. And is also somone who tends to take the view that will wind people up, regardless of the topic.
I don't hope he is beaten or anything in prison. I do however, think prison is clearly the right place for him. And if he is actually in physical danger, he can always be put in isolation for his own safety.
Edit: ah, I possibly see what you mean.
Given his history of inciting reactions and then playing the victim, I doubt any story in which he claims to be the victim without proof. He has made a living in goading reactions from others and then framing that reaction as an unprovoked response. Chances are, knowing that, if he is attacked in prison, he will have probably provoked it in some way.
But this is not all the lefties, tis a left wing member, one.
This bit though Chances are, knowing that, if he is attacked in prison, he will have probably provoked it in some way.
Is quite bad. Violence is always the fault of the person being violent (unless self defense obv) so blaming the person (potentially) on the recieving end is crappy I think. Yeah, hes mouthy and likely to cause arguments. But, if someone whacks him, thats their fault not his IMO.
Livia
12-07-2019, 11:11 AM
I see it Vicky, comments that wouldn't be acceptable if they were aimed at a Left wing anti-Semite... although the same people will argue that anti-Semitism is just a tool with which to beat Corbyn... Comments like, His poor kids and I hope he gets bummed in prison - that's rape incidentally. A comment that if his teeth get knocked out in prison then he should stop going to prison with an "lolol".
The bottom line is that violence is never the answer.
Vicky.
12-07-2019, 11:15 AM
I see it Vicky, comments that wouldn't be acceptable if they were aimed at a Left wing anti-Semite... although the same people will argue that anti-Semitism is just a tool with which to beat Corbyn... Comments like, His poor kids and I hope he gets bummed in prison - that's rape incidentally. A comment that if his teeth get knocked out in prison then he should stop going to prison with an "lolol".
Er, still not seeing this. Only one comment that seems slightly happy at the prospect of him being raped in prison..and that member is not left wing :laugh: I certainly so not see 'all the lefties' happily talking about how he should be raped/beaten up.
Anyway, we shall agree to disagree as this will go in cicrles I reckon :p
The bottom line is that violence is never the answer.
Yup, agreed.
Liam-
12-07-2019, 11:16 AM
How is me saying I feel sorry for his kids unacceptable? I do feel sorry for his kids, with a bigoted thug of a father in and out of prison, they deserve better than that, what’s wrong with saying that? :think:
Vicky.
12-07-2019, 11:21 AM
How is me saying I feel sorry for his kids unacceptable? I do feel sorry for his kids, with a bigoted thug of a father in and out of prison, they deserve better than that, what’s wrong with saying that? :think:
I do think generally speaking, kids should not be brought into stuff. But I see why you did it and am also failing to see how someone saying they feel sorry for his kids..is them advocating for violence against him. Mind, I don't personally think I would ever use 'what about their kids'..but thats me.
Maybe am still half asleep or something, but the only post that comes close to being happy if potential violence happens, is UserSince, and they could in no way ever be mistaken for a 'lefty' tbh, given the views they post anyway. Could be one of those who claims they are a leftie, yet actually is against everything the left stand for..that seems rather common these days :D
Livia
12-07-2019, 11:26 AM
How is me saying I feel sorry for his kids unacceptable? I do feel sorry for his kids, with a bigoted thug of a father in and out of prison, they deserve better than that, what’s wrong with saying that? :think:
I was surprised that's all. Because during Big Brother when housemates' kids are dragged into the argument, people get infracted.
Northern Monkey
12-07-2019, 12:04 PM
Used to have some sympathy for where he came from and all the crap he went through in the past with some of the Muslims in his local community.
But now he’s tried to turn himself into some media star he’s become more and more transparent.
He’s thriving on negative attention and spreading fear.
Putting his own career and publicity ahead of getting convictions against the people he says he’s against.
Tosser basically and probably deserves to go back inside.
Tom4784
12-07-2019, 02:01 PM
Livia is absolutely spot on with every point they make in this thread.
Except for for the fact she's wrong about everything and has spent a lot of tiem making out that anyone who is glad that the law has won is somehow sympathetic to peadophiles. If you think that is correct then you lack perspective.
Thank you, Swan. I am not a Robinson fan, but to watch all the lefties, who get so bent out of shape at any suggestion of violence in their own ranks, actively supporting Robinson get beaten in prison is sickening, but predictable. People died for us to be able to stand up and air our views, but obviously that only really applies to the Left.
For someone who claims to not be a Robinson fan, you sound a lot like one. Once again, you are using the plight of the victims in the case that Tommy Robinson almost tore apart to push your agenda against the left and it's utterly reprehensible behaviour. It's like these victims are just tools to bash someone you dislike with.
I'm not gonna weep for a man that received plenty of warnings to stop breaking the law and refused to listen, I'm not gonna care if he gets attacked in prison when he has a history of provoking people in order to be seen as a victim, I'm not gonna spare a thought for a violent man who receives violence in return.
He is a hate fuelled bigot and he is not deserving of sympathy as his situation is one of his own making. I won't wish harm on him but that doesn't mean I'll pretend to shed a tear if his actions have consequences.
Tom4784
12-07-2019, 02:02 PM
I was surprised that's all. Because during Big Brother when housemates' kids are dragged into the argument, people get infracted.
Except they didn't.
Marsh.
12-07-2019, 02:04 PM
I was surprised that's all. Because during Big Brother when housemates' kids are dragged into the argument, people get infracted.
I think there's a difference between calling someone a terrible parent or casting aspersions about someone when we don't know them as a parent and saying you feel sorry for someone's kids that their parent is going to prison. :/
Oliver_W
12-07-2019, 07:40 PM
I'm not gonna care if he gets attacked in prison when he has a history of provoking people
Nice victim blaming there. No amount of words justify violence.
user104658
12-07-2019, 08:30 PM
Nice victim blaming there. No amount of words justify violence.Not condoning violence doesn't mean you have to care, though, and also to suggest that Tommy Robinson has only ever used "words" is flat out false. Just a couple of months ago he was in Portugal sucker-punching a bloke in the back of the head.
So meh. I don't "hope" for him to get attacked in prison and I 100% believe that prisons have a duty of care over their prisoners to try to ensure that one one is attacked (and that failing would be my main concern, we're he to be hurt in prison)... However, I'm not going to lose any sleep over the idea that he might be attacked, or suggest that he should be spared prison because his own actions have put him at increased risk.
Twosugars
12-07-2019, 08:31 PM
Nice victim blaming there. No amount of words justify violence.
Goebbels?
Twosugars
12-07-2019, 08:33 PM
Also we saw a thuggery from his supporters, throwing bottles at the police and attacking journalists
Oliver_W
12-07-2019, 08:42 PM
Also we saw a thuggery from his supporters, throwing bottles at the police and attacking journalists
We can see thuggery from people on all sides of the political spectrum, but people are responsible for their own actions. I wouldn't blame Corbyn for the actions of Momentum.
Marsh.
12-07-2019, 08:44 PM
We can see thuggery from people on all sides of the political spectrum, but people are responsible for their own actions. I wouldn't blame Corbyn for the actions of Momentum.
:facepalm:
Oliver_W
12-07-2019, 08:47 PM
:facepalm:
So you would blame him? Why?
joeysteele
12-07-2019, 08:47 PM
How is me saying I feel sorry for his kids unacceptable? I do feel sorry for his kids, with a bigoted thug of a father in and out of prison, they deserve better than that, what’s wrong with saying that? :think:
Nothing wrong at all in that Liam.
Reading through this thread I'm just glad as Ammi said earlier.
Well done to the justice system.
In my view too, he got what was deserved.
Maybe I'd add, a little lenient but nevertheless a good result.
Marsh.
12-07-2019, 09:09 PM
So you would blame him? Why?
The facepalm was at your failure to grasp a very simple concept.
Oliver_W
12-07-2019, 09:18 PM
The facepalm was at your failure to grasp a very simple concept.
Then actually say what you mean, you're capable of making points without resorting to emojis
Amy Jade
12-07-2019, 09:30 PM
I was surprised that's all. Because during Big Brother when housemates' kids are dragged into the argument, people get infracted.
Not really Liv.
Pretty sure the year Lateysha was a housemate a few members were posting incredibly mean comments about her child and her parenting and they couldn't have been warned because the comments were posted multiple times by the same few people.
Marsh.
12-07-2019, 09:34 PM
Then actually say what you mean, you're capable of making points without resorting to emojis
And you're capable of understanding basic logic, you're not a child.
Kizzy
12-07-2019, 09:45 PM
I see it Vicky, comments that wouldn't be acceptable if they were aimed at a Left wing anti-Semite... although the same people will argue that anti-Semitism is just a tool with which to beat Corbyn... Comments like, His poor kids and I hope he gets bummed in prison - that's rape incidentally. A comment that if his teeth get knocked out in prison then he should stop going to prison with an "lolol".
The bottom line is that violence is never the answer.
Oh you've managed to twist this thread round to your own agenda well done! Yes I was the one to suggest it will impact on his children... and it will, that's not my fault, nor is it Jeremy Corbyns fault. It's Tommys fault for breaking the law.
I do feel sorry for his kids yes, they’re probably going to learn by example and become horrible little bigots just like daddy and it won’t be their fault, it’ll be his, so yes, I do have sympathy from them.
Does that mean I can’t have sympathy for other people? No it doesn’t.
What about tommy when he was little, I don't know but what if his father brought him up to be a bigot....and what about his father's fathers fathers father....where does your sympathy stop and start?
Tom4784
13-07-2019, 03:11 PM
Nice victim blaming there. No amount of words justify violence.
Nice reading comprehension there.
I'm not justifying violence, I simply don't care about Robinson when he has a history of being violent towards others and baiting out certain responses to profit from it later.
If you think that's me justifying violence against him and not showing off my apathy towards a man who thrives off reactions getting the reaction he wants then you need to read what I'm saying again.
Tom4784
13-07-2019, 03:12 PM
We can see thuggery from people on all sides of the political spectrum, but people are responsible for their own actions. I wouldn't blame Corbyn for the actions of Momentum.
Entitled centrism and whataboutism.
Marsh.
13-07-2019, 03:20 PM
What about tommy when he was little, I don't know but what if his father brought him up to be a bigot....and what about his father's fathers fathers father....where does your sympathy stop and start?
When they hit adulthood and can make decisions for themselves and are responsible for their own actions I would imagine.
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