New James Bond 2nd agent : to be a Black Woman

[arista]

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[Denver]

It's not doctor who they dont regenerate so makes no sense

[Ramsay]

This is obviously just to wind some easily susceptible people up
Even if it's true she's just taking the number not actually becoming Jane Bond

[Scarlett.]

ITS APPLE MAC GONE MaD!

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[Morgan.]

Thread title is pretty misleading

[user104658]

Did anyone even read the article? :hehe:.

James Bond is still the lead of the film but he's brought out of retirement. This is the new agent with the code 007, but won't be called James Bond. She's not even the lead of the film, let alone the "new James Bond". I'd imagine if she's popular as (what will clearly be) the sidekick in this upcoming film, she might get a spin-off. But they're not making bold moves here, just dipping their toes in the water and poking some fun at the people who they know would be outraged (and will probably still manage to be outraged that James Bond isn't 007 any more and the new 007 - a completely different character and not the title role - is a black woman)

[arista]

New Title Now
T.S

[Ammi]

...she isn’t anyone’s ‘assistant’ though, Arista...she’s another agent who is given his code name but she’s not James Bond obviously...but she’s an equal agent...there is no mention of assistant...

[user104658]

...she isn’t anyone’s ‘assistant’ though, Arista...she’s another agent who is given his code name but she’s not James Bond obviously...but she’s an equal agent...there is no mention of assistant...I mean technically if he's being brought out of retirement to help, and she's the new full time 007, doesn't that make him HER assistant? :think:

[arista]

...she isn’t anyone’s ‘assistant’ though, Arista...she’s another agent who is given his code name but she’s not James Bond obviously...but she’s an equal agent...there is no mention of assistant...



Corrected again
Madame

[Ammi]

Corrected again
Madame

...you’re a star, Arista..:lovedup:..

[arista]

ITS APPLE MAC GONE MaD!

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[Kate!]

If this is true then thats me not watching any films with a woman in the 007 role. Black is fine but not a woman. Idris Elba for the role when Craig has had enough :hehe:

[Ammi]

I mean technically if he's being brought out of retirement to help, and she's the new full time 007, doesn't that make him HER assistant? :think:

....hmmmm, well if he’s technically retired...and she’s been given his operative name...that would make her something like ‘...O07, The Agent Who Used To Be James Bond’...and he would be freelance../..like a consultant...or maybe a rogue agent..?...

[Beso]

In other news...I've got an ingrown toenail.

[Ammi]

...(..you’ve made me think about this..:laugh:...)...but yeah he can’t be her assistant if he doesn’t work there anymore...he’s a special consultant or whatever...

[Shaun]

how can you still get "women" and "woman" confused

[arista]

how can you still get "women" and "woman" confused



Tired


Now Corrected

Thank You Shaun

[arista]

In other news...I've got an ingrown toenail.



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[arista]

If this is true then thats me not watching any films with a woman in the 007 role. Black is fine but not a woman. Idris Elba for the role when Craig has had enough :hehe:


No Twitter posts went Wrong
007 stays a man
with a 2nd Agent as Black Lady

[user104658]

...(..you’ve made me think about this..:laugh:...)...but yeah he can’t be her assistant if he doesn’t work there anymore...he’s a special consultant or whatever...

Self-employed? :laugh:. "Bond's Freelance Spy Consultancy - Tips, Tricks, Gadgets & More!"

[user104658]

No Twitter posts went Wrong
007 stays a man
with a 2nd Agent as Black Lady

Well... no... James Bond stays a man, but James Bond isn't 007 any more (retired - LAZY!), and the new 007 is a black woman.

[Oliver_W]

Criiiiinge. We watch James Bond for [lisping whinge voice]toxic masculinity[/lisping whinge voice] - we wanna see him shoot bad guys, get off with hot women, and drive cool cars. We don't want to see the worst part of Captain Marvel moping around, when that screentime could be spent on better things.

If they're going with this storyline, why not choose someone hot?

Just bin this Fleabag rubbish.

[Ammi]

Self-employed? :laugh:. "Bond's Freelance Spy Consultancy - Tips, Tricks, Gadgets & More!"

..:laugh:...a license to spill/the tea on his tips, tricks, gadgets etc...

[Ant.]

Criiiiinge. We watch James Bond for [lisping whinge voice]toxic masculinity[/lisping whinge voice] - we wanna see him shoot bad guys, get off with hot women, and drive cool cars. We don't want to see the worst part of Captain Marvel moping around, when that screentime could be spent on better things.

If they're going with this storyline, why not choose someone hot?

Just bin this Fleabag rubbish.

...

[Saph]

so.... is she the new bond or..?

[user104658]

No. She's the new agent with the code 007. Bond is still in the film - he is no longer Agent 007.

Its not that complicated folks!

[Cherie]

meh, I have never watched a Bond movie in my life, and I won't be starting now

[michael21]

New Title Now
T.S

Why does her skin colour need t be in the title

[Oliver_W]

Why does her skin colour need t be in the title

Because a brave stonk womyn of colour is finally 007, TAKE THAT INCELS!!!!111

[user104658]

meh, I have never watched a Bond movie in my life, and I won't be starting now

I mean yes, to be fair, I generally struggle to get through a Bond film :umm2:. I liked Goldeneye and Casino Royale. Other than that ... ... :shrug:

[Marsh.]

It's not doctor who they dont regenerate so makes no sense

Yes. Sean Connery and Daniel Craig being the EXACT SAME PERSON makes TOTAL sense.

[Denver]

Yes. Sean Connery and Daniel Craig being the EXACT SAME PERSON makes TOTAL sense.

It's was the same character all the time which obviously they had to recast but white middle age men dont just turn into a young black woman

[Marsh.]

It's was the same character all the time which obviously they had to recast but white middle age men dont just turn into a young black woman

So you think the first Bond movie to the current one is a continuous story with the same character?

Ok.

[Denver]

So you think the first Bond movie to the current one is a continuous story with the same character?

Ok.

Every single actor has played the same character that's a fact

[Marsh.]

Criiiiinge. We watch James Bond for [lisping whinge voice]toxic masculinity[/lisping whinge voice] - we wanna see him shoot bad guys, get off with hot women, and drive cool cars. We don't want to see the worst part of Captain Marvel moping around, when that screentime could be spent on better things.

If they're going with this storyline, why not choose someone hot?

Just bin this Fleabag rubbish.

Because a brave stonk womyn of colour is finally 007, TAKE THAT INCELS!!!!111

Someone's a delicate little flower.

[Marsh.]

Every single actor has played the same character that's a fact

But were Sean Connery and Daniel Craig the same version of the character?

No.

Middle aged dark haired Scottish men do not turn into much younger, muscular blonde English men. Fact.

[Jordan.]

#my007

[Denver]

Anyway they need to stop the female remakes for the sake of it.

Ghost Busters and Oceans 8 was terrible.

If they want an all female cast they should find original ideas that would be much better

[Marsh.]

Anyway they need to stop the female remakes for the sake of it.

Ghost Busters and Oceans 8 was terrible.

If they want an all female cast they should find original ideas that would be much better

What does an all-female remake have to do with a female character in a James Bond movie? :think:

Were Ghostbusters and Ocean's 8 crap because it was all women? Not really. It was because they had weak scripts.

[Denver]

What does an all-female remake have to do with a female character in a James Bond movie? :think:

Were Ghostbusters and Ocean's 8 crap because it was all women? Not really. It was because they had weak scripts.

Because half of the thread topics were about a woman being 007

[Marsh.]

Because half of the thread topics were about a woman being 007

And?

[Scarlett.]

It's was the same character all the time which obviously they had to recast but white middle age men dont just turn into a young black woman

That was only true up until 'Die Another Day', that being said, they never really had any call backs or hints to the past so it might as well have not been.

Since Casino Royale, it has been a continuing story, and thanks to that, in Spectre, it seems Bond does retire from being 007 (also because he is getting older), so it only makes sense that another Agent would take his double 0 position, and it just so happens that Agent is a woman, its not a big deal, its just the same deal as Sean Bean being 006.

[Denver]

What does an all-female remake have to do with a female character in a James Bond movie? :think:

Were Ghostbusters and Ocean's 8 crap because it was all women? Not really. It was because they had weak scripts.

They were crap because they were put together with little thought with the hope that an all star cast could make it successful where as a new film is more thought out in my opinion they only have to look at a few recent all female movies that were fantastic

[Marsh.]

They were crap because they were put together with little thought with the hope that an all star cast could make it successful where as a new film is more thought out in my opinion they only have to look at a few recent all female movies that were fantastic

You're right. The Ocean's franchise NEVER uses an all star cast. That's not what made ANY of them successful.

[Denver]

You're right. The Ocean's franchise NEVER uses an all star cast. That's not what made ANY of them successful.

Uou are failing to grasp my point in an attempt to troll

[Marsh.]

Uou are failing to grasp my point in an attempt to troll

You said Ocean's 8 failed because they attempted to sell it on its all star cast.... you know, just like the George Clooney and Brad Pitt ones, even the Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin one.

But... this one was about women, therefore THAT must be the reason it failed. :idc:

Try discussing the point instead of resorting to insults.

[Denver]

You said Ocean's 8 failed because they attempted to sell it on its all star cast.... you know, just like the George Clooney and Brad Pitt ones, even the Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin one.

But... this one was about women, therefore THAT must be the reason it failed. :idc:

Try discussing the point instead of resorting to insults.
Bye felicia

[Marsh.]

Just as I thought.

[LukeB]

Someone's a delicate little flower.

:joker:

[Tom4784]

A clickbait-y story to rile up the racists and misogynists.

The idea of James Bond having to contend with or even take another 007 under his wing is pretty good and it's quite unique in a series that is historically reliant on it's own tropes.

[Oliver_W]

They were crap because they were put together with little thought with the hope that an all star cast could make it successful where as a new film is more thought out in my opinion they only have to look at a few recent all female movies that were fantastic

I don't think that's true with Ghost Busters, Paul Feig thought he was genuinely making a funny film, he wasn't trying to rest on the laurels on WE CAST WOMEN at all. The problem was that too much improv a) was allowedto happen and b) was left in the film.

Plus it had the problem a lot of modern films do - it wasn't allowed to take itself seriously. The original Ghostbusters movie wasn't scary, but at times it acted like it thought it was.

[user104658]

That was only true up until 'Die Another Day', that being said, they never really had any call backs or hints to the past so it might as well have not been.



Since Casino Royale, it has been a continuing story, and thanks to that, in Spectre, it seems Bond does retire from being 007 (also because he is getting older), so it only makes sense that another Agent would take his double 0 position, and it just so happens that Agent is a woman, its not a big deal, its just the same deal as Sean Bean being 006.Did they not outright state on Casino Royale's release that it was a semi-reboot? I personally think anything pre Casino Royale needs to be taken as a previous version of the story. Some of the events that happened in those films MAY have happened to this Bond (e.g. I think having been married has been mentioned?) but... Only in the same way that MCU's Peter Parker has a dead Uncle Ben. Having elements of the back story doesn't mean its a continuation of the same character.

I think people are being exposed a little here. There's always been backlash against James Bond 007 (the actual character) being recast as a different sex / race and I personally agreed with that, because I like continuity in movie sequels. However. I was always fine with and am still fine with Bond retiring and a new 007 of whatever description the writers want taking over the role and that seems to be the way they're going.

But lo and behold... A lot of people who claimed they didn't want "a black bond" because it didn't make sense, are STILL not happy with a black (or female? Or both?) 007 even though it is being made clear that it's a brand new character.

Funny that, isn't it.

[user104658]

Plus it had the problem a lot of modern films do - it wasn't allowed to take itself seriously. The original Ghostbusters movie wasn't scary, but at times it acted like it thought it was.

Err I'll have you know that Vigo from Ghostbusters 2 gave me nightmares for MONTHS when I was a kid.

[Oliver_W]

Only in the same way that MCU's Peter Parker has a dead Uncle Ben. Having elements of the back story doesn't mean its a continuation of the same character.[/B]


Sort of similar to Batman, and DC comics in general - 2011 was a semi reboot, so the slates were simultaneously wiped clean, but the characters had some of the same history as before 2011. So like, Batman had still had Grayson, Jason, and Tim as his Robins and they had the same fates, but this version of Bats hadn't met all of his foes yet, and he had only been around for about 5 years.

Err I'll have you know that Vigo from Ghostbusters 2 gave me nightmares for MONTHS when I was a kid.
I've not seen GB2 :o

[Scarlett.]

Did they not outright state on Casino Royale's release that it was a semi-reboot? I personally think anything pre Casino Royale needs to be taken as a previous version of the story. Some of the events that happened in those films MAY have happened to this Bond (e.g. I think having been married has been mentioned?) but... Only in the same way that MCU's Peter Parker has a dead Uncle Ben. Having elements of the back story doesn't mean its a continuation of the same character.

I think people are being exposed a little here. There's always been backlash against James Bond 007 (the actual character) being recast as a different sex / race and I personally agreed with that, because I like continuity in movie sequels. However. I was always fine with and am still fine with Bond retiring and a new 007 of whatever description the writers want taking over the role and that seems to be the way they're going.

But lo and behold... A lot of people who claimed they didn't want "a black bond" because it didn't make sense, are STILL not happy with a black (or female? Or both?) 007 even though it is being made clear that it's a brand new character.

Funny that, isn't it.

Ah yeah, that was what I forgot to mention, Casino Royale was a reboot, the first scene was literally James Bond getting his 00 status

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[user104658]

I've not seen GB2 :o

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Iconic.

[Beso]

Will she be doing this 2 times when she says her code name..:nono::nono:

[arista]

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