Extinction Rebellion: London and around the UK Protests

[arista]

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[Extinction Rebellion have taken over the Strand, parking a huge blue boat outside the Royal Courts of Justice.
This is not just in London - one campaigner tells us “there’s going to be boats all over the country today.”]

[Livia]

How long would it take to drag them, and their silly boat, away?

[Liam-]

It might just be me being dense, but what’s the significance of the boat?

[Livia]

I imagine it appertains to the mess we've made of the oceans.

Edit: Or perhaps the rising sea level?

[Oliver_W]

There was one of their little parades before a cosplay parade I was involved with on Saturday.

It felt nice that us weirdos dressed as superheroes and weebs weren't the most sad amd tragic that day <3

[Livia]

There was one of their little parades before a cosplay parade I was involved with on Saturday.

It felt nice that us weirdos dressed as superheroes and weebs weren't the most sad amd tragic that day <3

Which superhero did you go as?

[Tom4784]

We are almost at the point of no return when it comes to the state of our environment, I can't deride people for trying to make others take notice. Minor inconveniences mean little to your children's children who face an apocalyptic future.

[Oliver_W]

Which superhero did you go as?

I didn't - I wasn't aware of it until late so I just wore Auryn and said I was Old Bastian :joker:

[Livia]

I didn't - I wasn't aware of it until late so I just wore Auryn and said I was Old Bastian :joker:

LOL... well that's quite imaginative. I was hoping for tights.. you let me down.

[Oliver_W]

LOL... well that's quite imaginative. I was hoping for tights.. you let me down.

I wanna be The Flash!!

[Livia]

I wanna be The Flash!!

Next time. Post pics!

[arista]

We are almost at the point of no return when it comes to the state of our environment, I can't deride people for trying to make others take notice. Minor inconveniences mean little to your children's children who face an apocalyptic future.

Sure Dezzy
But Stopping Traffic
and far far worse stopping a Terminal Ill person
getting to their Essential Hospital Appointment
is criminal.

The only way to change anything is through
Parliament.

[Tom4784]

Sure Dezzy
But Stopping Traffic
and far far worse stopping a Terminal Ill person
getting to their Essential Hospital Appointment
is criminal.

The only way to change anything is through
Parliament.

Hypotheticals doesn't make this protest any less valid.

[arista]

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Scotland its a bank Holiday.

[Kazanne]

How long would it take to drag them, and their silly boat, away?

I will wager at least one of these people has littered somewhere and misused plastic ,but it's a nice day to be a hypocrite.:wavey:

[Beso]

Dragged by a giant 4x4 I would imagine.

[arista]

In Bristol they are now blocking a Bridge.

[hijaxers]

Sure Dezzy
But Stopping Traffic
and far far worse stopping a Terminal Ill person
getting to their Essential Hospital Appointment
is criminal.

The only way to change anything is through
Parliament.

Yes we've got that stupid pink boat in the middle of Bristol bridge. i suppose they'll be pissing n ****ting all over castle green park.

[Tom4784]

If Parliament doesn't listen, action must be taken. Protests must be held.

Anyone that has children should be concerned about what the future holds for them because it's getting to the point where we'll be beyond saving if we don't make serious changes soon.

[Livia]

We could go carbon neutral tomorrow and it wouldn't make a scrap of difference to global warming... yet most people are still very environmentally aware, I find. Most people are concerned about the plight of the planet and do all in their power to help make changes. Everyone is concerned... well, decent people are. Decent people recycling, saving water, using renewable energy and generally doing their bit... and going to work and paying tax... only to be stopped by a bunch of people NOT at work and imagining that their protest is informing the masses of something they don't know.

[arista]

We could go carbon neutral tomorrow and it wouldn't make a scrap of difference to global warming... yet most people are still very environmentally aware, I find. Most people are concerned about the plight of the planet and do all in their power to help make changes. Everyone is concerned... well, decent people are. Decent people recycling, saving water, using renewable energy and generally doing their bit... and going to work and paying tax... only to be stopped by a bunch of people NOT at work and imagining that their protest is informing the masses of something they don't know.

Great Points Livia

Meanwhile
China has the biggest Solar area in the world
But at the same time, China has restarted
the Dirty Coal Mines again

[Tom4784]

I think we've reached the point where little steps aren't going to work anymore. A lot of credited scientists have warned us all that we are at a tipping point and it would be arrogant to ignore it. Drastic action is needed, major changes need to happen.

Using China as an excuse for inaction does little to change the course we're on.

[Livia]

Great Points Livia

Meanwhile
China has the biggest Solar area in the world
But at the same time, China has restarted
the Dirty Coal Mines again

Yes... and if you mingle all that with their Human Rights abuses, they make Trump look like a moderate.

[Tom4784]

Yes... and if you mingle all that with their Human Rights abuses, they make Trump look like a moderate.

Again with the whataboutism.

'Trump's abuse of human rights is not as bad as China's so that makes his abuses perfectly fine!'

[Oliver_W]

I think we've reached the point where little steps aren't going to work anymore. A lot of credited scientists have warned us all that we are at a tipping point and it would be arrogant to ignore it. Drastic action is needed, major changes need to happen.

Using China as an excuse for inaction does little to change the course we're on.

Maybe if just one more road is blocked by unemployed people, the government will push the Make Everything Better Button.

It would have to be a very magical button though, as it would need to not only affect the UK, but countries which are actually the biggest polluters.

Like Livia said, our going carbon neutral would do almost nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Though I'd take their protests more seriously if they actually came up with solutions, like pushing for greater use of nuclear energy.

[Tom4784]

Maybe if just one more road is blocked by unemployed people, the government will push the Make Everything Better Button.

It would have to be a very magical button though, as it would need to not only affect the UK, but countries which are actually the biggest polluters.

Like Livia said, our going carbon neutral would do almost nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Though I'd take their protests more seriously if they actually came up with solutions, like pushing for greater use of nuclear energy.

More excuses for inaction.

Also how do you know they are unemployed? Does their job status make them lesser human beings in your eyes? Are their opinions on the environment worth less than yours because you assume they don't have jobs?

Most of the time these protests offer solutions, they are usually protesting for certain actions to be taken but that doesn't make for a good bit of outrage journalism so they're just a bunch of unemployed people sitting around demanding blanket change.

[Livia]

So, I have solar panels and a water meter, I got rid of my oil-fired central heating and went electric. I recycle like a lunatic get really narked if I find some recyclables in the rubbish bin. I'm about 6-7 miles from the nearest village and if I need to go there I'll usually cycle rather than take the car. I save rain water in water buts to water the garden and I reduce my use of plastic wherever I can.

What does everyone else do to help against global warming? I'm sure that those of us who are against the protests don't advocate burning coal and buying plastic. I'm sure we're all aware....

[Beso]

I don't squeeze my farts out anymore..I leave it up to them to decide if they want to come out.

[Livia]

I don't squeeze my farts out anymore..I leave it up to them to decide if they want to come out.

Good to see you're doing your bit, Parmy.

[Kazanne]

I don't squeeze my farts out anymore..I leave it up to them to decide if they want to come out.

:laugh::laugh:Thank God for you, seriously though these people could be doing so much more

[bots]

i've been doing my bit creating a multitude of useful items and art from plastic on my 3d printer :smug:

[Beso]

:laugh::laugh:Thank God for you, seriously though these people could be doing so much more

Doing what they are doing isn't the way to go...all they do is make the locals lives a mysery with all the fumes coming out the stuck cars mixing with the baking sunshine...basically they are shortening lives whilst trying to prelong lives...morons.

[Marsh.]

I will wager at least one of these people has littered somewhere and misused plastic ,but it's a nice day to be a hypocrite.:wavey:

I bet that have misused plastic... when there are no alternatives.

Fighting to GET those alternatives does not make someone a hypocrite.

[Marsh.]

Though I'd take their protests more seriously if they actually came up with solutions

Yeah, you can't campaign and care about stuff unless you're a scientist or a politician. :rolleyes:

[Kizzy]

It's heartening to see some actual action on the streets it shows we do care about the environment we want to do more and we want the govt to do more . Not just cop out to big business with assurances to cut carrier bags by 2099 all the while cutting subsidies fir solar and electric cars!

[Liam-]

All power to them doing these things in this blazing heat, that’s dedication

[Beso]

It's heartening to see some actual action on the streets it shows we do care about the environment we want to do more and we want the govt to do more . Not just cop out to big business with assurances to cut carrier bags by 2099 all the while cutting subsidies fir solar and electric cars!

Whatever happened to a good old fashioned leafleting campaign.

[Beso]

All power to them doing these things in this blazing heat, that’s dedication

I'm sure Roy castle and his cancerous ghost came down to enjoy the car fumes this protest spread around for the local community....

[Kazanne]

Doing what they are doing isn't the way to go...all they do is make the locals lives a mysery with all the fumes coming out the stuck cars mixing with the baking sunshine...basically they are shortening lives whilst trying to prelong lives...morons.

Why don't they spread round the local beaches etc and start cleaning them up that at least is helpful.

[Beso]

Why don't they spread round the local beaches etc and start cleaning them up that at least is helpful.

Search for Portpatrick......That's how you do it...show people how it's done.

[Beso]

PortPatrick goes green.

[Oliver_W]

Why don't they spread round the local beaches etc and start cleaning them up that at least is helpful.

The poor dears might get dirt under their nails or something :(

[Tom4784]

The poor dears might get dirt under their nails or something :(

No response to my questions about why their employment status somehow diminishes their views? Why is that? Why patronise them when they are standing up for something they believe in despite the armchair apathetic masses that are all too pleased to glide into oblivion?


Why don't they spread round the local beaches etc and start cleaning them up that at least is helpful.

How do you know they don't? How do you know what else they do? You don't, you're just making assumptions because you place minor inconvenience over what is a critical point for our planet. They are saying something you don't want to here and that upsets you.

[Marsh.]

Why don't they spread round the local beaches etc and start cleaning them up that at least is helpful.

Do you do that? Otherwise you're being hypocritical.

That's how it works. You said.

[Kizzy]

How is that helpful... Once they've picked up all the single use plastic where do you put it?
The point of the exersise is to stop the production of so much waste initally before it gets on the beach.

[Kazanne]

It's sad to see that they have caused distress to someone and now this lady,is sad about it,not half as sad as the person trying to get to thier dying father.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/extinction-rebellion-activist-tearful-as-she-hears-protest-stopped-man-from-reaching-dying-father/ar-AAEwRmQ?ocid=spartandhp

A climate activist fought back tears as she apologised to a man who was unable to reach his dying dad’s bedside due to a demonstration blocking the road.
The grieving man told how he was unable to get to the Bristol Royal Infirmary before his father passed away because Extinction Rebellion protesters were blocking the M32.
He rang his local radio station on Wednesday afternoon to tell his story, which was later played to eco-protester Zoe Jones by a BBC Radio Bristol journalist.

[Kazanne]

Do you do that? Otherwise you're being hypocritical.

That's how it works. You said.

I hate litter bugs and recycle ,so yes I try and do my best and would never leave rubbish on a beach it's just lazy.

[Cherie]

How is that helpful... Once they've picked up all the single use plastic where do you put it?
The point of the exersise is to stop the production of so much waste initally before it gets on the beach.

both are helpful, we have to stop producing the stuff, but we also need to ensure the stuff that is produced already is properly disposed of and recycled

[Cherie]

Its good they are going to start targeting other cities as well, I think when disruption happens in the London a lot of people who are not inconvenienced are quite happy for it to go ahead, maybe they won't be as happy when their holiday flight is cancelled

[Kazanne]

Its good they are going to start targeting other cities as well, I think when disruption happens in the London a lot of people who are not inconvenienced are quite happy for it to go ahead, maybe they won't be as happy when their holiday flight is cancelled

It's disgraceful that the man in the link could not get to their dying father due to the roads being blocked.:fist:

[Kizzy]

And what of all the asthmatics dying due to the air quality?
Sometimes you just have to take a stand! What happened there was unfortunate, there was no malice. .no intent.
Yes it was sad but you have to look at the bigger picture.

[Kazanne]

And what of all the asthmatics dying due to the air quality?
Sometimes you just have to take a stand! What happened there was unfortunate, there was no malice. .no intent.
Yes it was sad but you have to look at the bigger picture.

I just think they could protest without blocking roads,we are all aware of climate change and a lot of us care,but there are ways and means of doing things imo.

[Livia]

Its good they are going to start targeting other cities as well, I think when disruption happens in the London a lot of people who are not inconvenienced are quite happy for it to go ahead, maybe they won't be as happy when their holiday flight is cancelled

Yes, I agree with that. It's all right applauding the eco warriors, not so much when you're directly affected.

It's disgraceful that the man in the link could not get to their dying father due to the roads being blocked.:fist:

That is disgraceful. But you know, it's going to rain over the weekend, they'll probably call it a day till the sun comes out again.

[Kizzy]

I just think they could protest without blocking roads,we are all aware of climate change and a lot of us care,but there are ways and means of doing things imo.

I think everything has been exausted though... petitions, letters to MPS, raising awareness, campaigns . Peaceful protesting is a great British tradition that we should be proud of.