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Niamh.
07-01-2020, 04:21 PM
not really its a good paper and they have condemned the boys for celebrating etc, they also have investigated the angle about the gas pipeline etc,

I dont think either side comes out of this with much grace and i mean the boys, her or the cypriots

but its a small tourist island and to try and pretend is the UK and if you get into trouble with the law its all going to be just like if it was at home is crazy.

She got into trouble with the law for reporting a crime......


The only positive to come out of this is that it's made Cypriot women get out there and protest their own judicial system so hopefully her case will help other victims of rape in Cyprus in the future

The Slim Reaper
07-01-2020, 04:23 PM
not really its a good paper and they have condemned the boys for celebrating etc, they also have investigated the angle about the gas pipeline etc,

I dont think either side comes out of this with much grace and i mean the boys, her or the cypriots

but its a small tourist island and to try and pretend is the UK and if you get into trouble with the law its all going to be just like if it was at home is crazy.

She comes out of it without it touching her grace.

Kizzy
07-01-2020, 04:24 PM
not really its a good paper and they have condemned the boys for celebrating etc, they also have investigated the angle about the gas pipeline etc,

I dont think either side comes out of this with much grace and i mean the boys, her or the cypriots

but its a small tourist island and to try and pretend is the UK and if you get into trouble with the law its all going to be just like if it was at home is crazy.

So the British shouldn't expect justice anywhere else in the world?

Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2020, 04:25 PM
we have a woman who made false rape claims and was convicted and sentenced and got off lightly is what we have.

making false rape claims is a heinous thing to do.

Kizzy
07-01-2020, 04:41 PM
we have a woman who made false rape claims and was convicted and sentenced and got off lightly is what we have.

making false rape claims is a heinous thing to do.

Ok.. I see your angle today.

Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2020, 04:46 PM
Ok.. I see your angle today.

its not an angle is the facts as they are presented to us all. if there are any facts i have missed please add them

Sticks
07-01-2020, 05:20 PM
Yes absolutely

She has been found guilty in court of being a Liar

She is a lying B***h

All the fire engines in the UK could not put out the fire in her pants because of her lies

If there is any justice, the Israelis and the prosecution will appeal the over leniency of that sentence

Remember a court has proved beyond a shadow of doubt her to have a lying tongue

SHE IS A LIAR

MTVN
07-01-2020, 06:14 PM
but its a small tourist island and to try and pretend is the UK and if you get into trouble with the law its all going to be just like if it was at home is crazy.

But you were calling people xenophobic earlier for questioning the legitimacy of the Cyprus justice system and now you're basically saying it can't be trusted either :think:

Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2020, 06:35 PM
But you were calling people xenophobic earlier for questioning the legitimacy of the Cyprus justice system and now you're basically saying it can't be trusted either :think:

I think we can all recognise that a small island like Cyprus will not have the same resources and training in the police and law as the UK. The poster yesterday was calling them crooks and shysters. Big difference

Beso
07-01-2020, 06:41 PM
we have a woman who made false rape claims and was convicted and sentenced and got off lightly is what we have.

making false rape claims is a heinous thing to do.

I reckon she just said it didn't happen once,thinking it would get her out the room and away home. .

I reckon she was definatly raped the way described and I hope these lads get there comeuppance....they won't though as they seem to have friends in high places.

Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2020, 06:47 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENsnP_tWsAY9ntZ.png

https://twitter.com/Barristerblog/status/1214607688971247616?s=20

arista
07-01-2020, 07:01 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/07/17/23112674-7861503-image-a-8_1578418380847.jpg
On her way home

Ammi
07-01-2020, 07:08 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/07/17/23112674-7861503-image-a-8_1578418380847.jpg
On her way home

...poor girl..rebuilding her life in any way is something that's not going to happen for a long time ...but at least she’ll be with her family and friends again now...

Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2020, 07:10 PM
...poor girl..rebuilding her life in any way is something that's not going to happen for a long time ...but at least she’ll be with her family and friends again now...

poor girl???

she is a convicted rape false accuser

do you support people who falsely accuse men of RAPE??

:umm2:

Sticks
07-01-2020, 07:16 PM
poor girl???

she is a convicted rape false accuser

do you support people who falsely accuse men of RAPE??

:umm2:

WHY IS THIS CONVICTED CRIMINAL NOT NAMED AND SHAMED :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

MTVN
07-01-2020, 07:20 PM
I think we can all recognise that a small island like Cyprus will not have the same resources and training in the police and law as the UK. The poster yesterday was calling them crooks and shysters. Big difference

So therefore it is legitimate to question whether they carried out this whole thing properly and fairly?

Niamh.
07-01-2020, 07:22 PM
So therefore it is legitimate to question whether they carried out this whole thing properly and fairly?Indeed. Questioning her without a lawyer present for a start

Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2020, 07:24 PM
So therefore it is legitimate to question whether they carried out this whole thing properly and fairly?

No as you are comparing their court to our own and that isnt fair. Ask a Cypriot if she got justice not me. I am pretty sure they would say she did.

we have no say in their legal system. they are a sovereign country.

They may be asking why we jailed a kid for 6 years for doodling

Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2020, 07:24 PM
Indeed. Questioning her without a lawyer present for a start

I read today she declined that opportinity

Sticks
07-01-2020, 07:25 PM
Indeed. Questioning her without a lawyer present for a start

Something we can learn from the Cypriot justice system, it would really help the clear up rate of crimes here in the UK.

Ammi
07-01-2020, 07:26 PM
Indeed. Questioning her without a lawyer present for a start

...it would be good to think that this case could bring about changes in the system with all of the universal support it’s gaining...and so many females in Cyprus and Israel so vocal in their support of systems they feel are failing them...

Sticks
07-01-2020, 07:30 PM
And what about men falsely accused of rape, like this 19 year old did?

It is women like this lying 19 year old (NAME HER!!!), who wrecks mens lives while they are given anonymity - There is no justice :mad:

Denver
07-01-2020, 07:42 PM
Go comment on something within your IQ levels

Tom4784
07-01-2020, 09:52 PM
we have a woman who made false rape claims and was convicted and sentenced and got off lightly is what we have.

making false rape claims is a heinous thing to do.

So you're on the side of the rapists, okay.

Tom4784
07-01-2020, 09:53 PM
And what about men falsely accused of rape, like this 19 year old did?

It is women like this lying 19 year old (NAME HER!!!), who wrecks mens lives while they are given anonymity - There is no justice :mad:

Thank you for providing the incel point of view.

bots
07-01-2020, 10:27 PM
No as you are comparing their court to our own and that isnt fair. Ask a Cypriot if she got justice not me. I am pretty sure they would say she did.

we have no say in their legal system. they are a sovereign country.

They may be asking why we jailed a kid for 6 years for doodling

that's where you are wrong. Cyprus must adhere to the european rules on justice which it did not. Having a lawyer present is one such rule.

Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2020, 11:22 PM
that's where you are wrong. Cyprus must adhere to the european rules on justice which it did not. Having a lawyer present is one such rule.

And if she declined?

Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2020, 11:25 PM
So you're on the side of the rapists, okay.

There are no rapists. Only a false accuser

Stop making lies

Tom4784
08-01-2020, 03:11 AM
There are no rapists. Only a false accuser

Stop making lies

This is why you don't bootlick everything the police does. It makes you blind to the facts because you can only worship the badge like it's some sort of God.

If you are ignoring all the red flags because you can't see reality beyond your blind devotion then you've chosen to support a corrupt system and this girl's rapists.

When the truth comes out, I will be reminding you that you were on the wrong side.

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 09:33 AM
This is why you don't bootlick everything the police does. It makes you blind to the facts because you can only worship the badge like it's some sort of God.

If you are ignoring all the red flags because you can't see reality beyond your blind devotion then you've chosen to support a corrupt system and this girl's rapists.

When the truth comes out, I will be reminding you that you were on the wrong side.

Just finished watching Unbelievable, very similar theme to this in regards to the "false report" you should watch it if you get the chance (it's a true story) shows just how rape victims can be treated

user104658
08-01-2020, 09:59 AM
There are no rapists. Only a false accuser

Stop making lies

I suggest you check your video-nasty sites LT, there's a video of her quite clearly saying no and telling the men who decided to join in to get out. That makes any further action they took unambiguously sexual assault.

Crimson Dynamo
08-01-2020, 10:02 AM
I suggest you check your video-nasty sites LT, there's a video of her quite clearly saying no and telling the men who decided to join in to get out. That makes any further action they took unambiguously sexual assault.

Was this "video" used as evidence in court by her legal team?

user104658
08-01-2020, 10:27 AM
Was this "video" used as evidence in court by her legal team?

The judge disallowed it as evidence because he is corrupt as ****, sadly.

The Slim Reaper
08-01-2020, 10:31 AM
Sticks posts in a controversial thread

The forum:

https://media.tenor.com/images/8fc402084af95a85d7500a87600bc806/tenor.gif

Livia
08-01-2020, 10:38 AM
The only people who really know what happened are the alleged rapists and the girl. Some evidence on the Internet isn't enough... I tend to believe her, but I could be wrong and I'm surprised so many people have made up their mind conclusively. It's reminiscent to me of how Americans reacted to the Amanda Knox case.

Kizzy
08-01-2020, 10:54 AM
Sticks posts in a controversial thread

The forum:

https://media.tenor.com/images/8fc402084af95a85d7500a87600bc806/tenor.gif

I thought it was sarcasm as a response to LT and his view. but dunno :shrug:

Nicky91
08-01-2020, 10:58 AM
The only people who really know what happened are the alleged rapists and the girl. Some evidence on the Internet isn't enough... I tend to believe her, but I could be wrong and I'm surprised so many people have made up their mind conclusively. It's reminiscent to me of how Americans reacted to the Amanda Knox case.

yes exactly, that was another quite controversial case

i get your point Livia

Crimson Dynamo
08-01-2020, 11:02 AM
I thought it was sarcasm as a response to LT and his view. but dunno :shrug:

oh yeah, i never thought of that but re-reading you may be right :think:

Kizzy
08-01-2020, 11:04 AM
I don't think anyone has made up their mind conclusively. All people want is due process, if that didn't happen they need to do over.

I don't see a link to reactions to Knox either, the cases were entirely different, she was the accused not the victim ... apart from the fact they are both young women I cant see the similarity in public reaction.

user104658
08-01-2020, 11:06 AM
The only people who really know what happened are the alleged rapists and the girl. Some evidence on the Internet isn't enough... I tend to believe her, but I could be wrong and I'm surprised so many people have made up their mind conclusively. It's reminiscent to me of how Americans reacted to the Amanda Knox case.

True but then, it is also very similar to the Knox case... it's fairly conclusive at this point that Knox was innocent and ended up being charged for political convenience (they needed an arrest and got impatient) and also convicted because she and Sollecito were coerced into making false statements without legal representation (whilst sleep deprived IIRC).

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 11:08 AM
Also LT you keep saying that she said she didn't want a lawyer but I've been looking and can't find anything saying that, do you have a link or something to where you got that information? This is what I found :

Prosecutors said the woman willingly wrote and signed a statement retracting her claims 10 days after making the initial allegations.

The woman told the court this happened under duress with the threat of arrest and that she had been denied access to a lawyer.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50945206

Crimson Dynamo
08-01-2020, 11:11 AM
Also LT you keep saying that she said she didn't want a lawyer but I've been looking and can't find anything saying that, do you have a link or something to where you got that information? This is what I found :

Prosecutors said the woman willingly wrote and signed a statement retracting her claims 10 days after making the initial allegations.

The woman told the court this happened under duress with the threat of arrest and that she had been denied access to a lawyer.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50945206

I think it was from that Jewish Times article I read yesterday or from the comments I cant recall I will see if i can get it from my history thing.

Livia
08-01-2020, 11:12 AM
True but then, it is also very similar to the Knox case... it's fairly conclusive at this point that Knox was innocent and ended up being charged for political convenience (they needed an arrest and got impatient) and also convicted because she and Sollecito were coerced into making false statements without legal representation (whilst sleep deprived IIRC).

No to be controversial, TS, but I think Amanda Knox and her boyfriend were guilty. Their testimony did not match the physical evidence at the apartment... there's more, but that's quite another topic....

I think the reaction of Cypriot women spoke volumes about the legal system in Cyprus and their approach to rape. It's bad enough here...

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 11:13 AM
I think it was from that Jewish Times article I read yesterday or from the comments I cant recall I will see if i can get it from my history thing.

Ok but clearly this isn't a fact then if we have conflicting reports on it. I mean I don't see why she would refuse a lawyer though, it doesn't make alot of sense especially when the Police were making it clear they didn't believe her :shrug:

Crimson Dynamo
08-01-2020, 11:16 AM
Ok but clearly this isn't a fact then if we have conflicting reports on it. I mean I don't see why she would refuse a lawyer though, it doesn't make alot of sense especially when the Police were making it clear they didn't believe her :shrug:

No i dont think i stated it as a fact but that i read it in an article (but surely this would have come up in the court as her team must have brought this up?)

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 11:18 AM
No i dont think i stated it as a fact but that i read it in an article (but surely this would have come up in the court as her team must have brought this up?)

Well the bit I posted above was from court?

Cherie
08-01-2020, 11:19 AM
There is so much information/misinformation floating about


I do think I heard on Shelia Fogarty yesterday that she didn't think she needed a solicitor but the Cypriots did not advise her otherwise which would be in their duty of care

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 11:21 AM
There is so much information/misinformation floating about


I do think I heard on Shelia Fogarty yesterday that she didn't think she needed a solicitor but the Cypriots did not advise her otherwise which would be in their duty of care

Apparently she said in court that she was denied access to lawyer, that was from the BBC website

The Slim Reaper
08-01-2020, 11:23 AM
Well the bit I posted above was from court?

On one hand court, but on the other the comments section of an Israeli newspaper. I'm not sure what to believe :shrug:

Livia
08-01-2020, 11:26 AM
Over 50 Israelis have flown to Cyprus to stand by the British woman.

“The minimum we can do is to be there to offer support, to show her that we believe her,” said Orit Sulitzeanu, executive director of the Association of Rape Crisis Centers in Israel, adding that the protest was partly out of disgust that the “boys returned to Israel as heroes.”

The Times of Israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/cyprus-uk-woman-faces-rape-claim-sentencing-with-israeli-supporters-on-hand/

Kizzy
08-01-2020, 11:31 AM
It was on the 6pm news last night about the level of support from Isreli women in Cyprus. It was great to see the weight of feeling there is that justice has not been done here.

Crimson Dynamo
08-01-2020, 11:31 AM
Well the bit I posted above was from court?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/cyprus-uk-woman-gets-4-month-suspended-sentence-for-rape-claim-against-israelis/

It was from here. at the bottom

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 11:33 AM
Over 50 Israelis have flown to Cyprus to stand by the British woman.

“The minimum we can do is to be there to offer support, to show her that we believe her,” said Orit Sulitzeanu, executive director of the Association of Rape Crisis Centers in Israel, adding that the protest was partly out of disgust that the “boys returned to Israel as heroes.”

The Times of Israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/cyprus-uk-woman-faces-rape-claim-sentencing-with-israeli-supporters-on-hand/

I read somewhere that apparently they came from "well connected families" and that when they arrived back into Israel people were chanting "The Brit is a *****" I'm glad that the tide has turned on them in Israel though, that says a lot

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 11:35 AM
https://www.timesofisrael.com/cyprus-uk-woman-gets-4-month-suspended-sentence-for-rape-claim-against-israelis/

It was from here. at the bottom

I saw this comment?

Michael Davison, you are incorrect. The girl did ask for a lawyer but was told she was not entitled to one under Cypriot law. There are many questions to be answered here but certainly the Israelis receiving a hero’s welcome on their return was inappropriate, and their donning kippot at the airport was a Chilul Hashem of the highest order.

MTVN
08-01-2020, 11:36 AM
Michael Davison the Facebook commenter is definitely the most reliable source in this case

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 11:37 AM
Michael Davison the Facebook commenter is definitely the most reliable source in this case

:laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
08-01-2020, 11:40 AM
Is Cypriot criminal justice reliable?

The UK’s sovereign base areas, which rely on Cypriot law, have not adopted Britain’s 1984 Police and Criminal Evidence Act for investigations. Consequently suspects are sometimes denied access to lawyers, with proper disclosure of evidence and interviews under caution not being tape-recorded, Mercer said. “A suspect in a police station is under enormous pressure and cannot be expected to check every word of statement. Furthermore, they would find it very difficult indeed to ask the police to change the wording when it is not accurate.”

So the court would not have seen this as unjust and discounted it?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/07/cyprus-case-what-legal-challenges-does-the-uk-woman-face

user104658
08-01-2020, 11:42 AM
Is Cypriot criminal justice reliable?

The UK’s sovereign base areas, which rely on Cypriot law, have not adopted Britain’s 1984 Police and Criminal Evidence Act for investigations. Consequently suspects are sometimes denied access to lawyers, with proper disclosure of evidence and interviews under caution not being tape-recorded, Mercer said. “A suspect in a police station is under enormous pressure and cannot be expected to check every word of statement. Furthermore, they would find it very difficult indeed to ask the police to change the wording when it is not accurate.”

So the court would not have seen this as unjust and discounted it?



You don't end up with heavily corrupt police forces without similarly corrupt court systems working in tandem :shrug:. You're posting evidence against your own stance at this point.

Nicky91
08-01-2020, 11:42 AM
https://www.dailysabah.com/europe/2019/06/24/greek-cypriot-army-captain-pleads-guilty-to-7-serial-killings

here one example of another big case in Cyprus before this one

Kizzy
08-01-2020, 11:45 AM
Is Cypriot criminal justice reliable?

The UK’s sovereign base areas, which rely on Cypriot law, have not adopted Britain’s 1984 Police and Criminal Evidence Act for investigations. Consequently suspects are sometimes denied access to lawyers, with proper disclosure of evidence and interviews under caution not being tape-recorded, Mercer said. “A suspect in a police station is under enormous pressure and cannot be expected to check every word of statement. Furthermore, they would find it very difficult indeed to ask the police to change the wording when it is not accurate.”

So the court would not have seen this as unjust and discounted it?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/07/cyprus-case-what-legal-challenges-does-the-uk-woman-face

The guardian eh...when it suits?

The issue is her suggestion the confession was coerced and threats issued if she didn't comply.

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 11:45 AM
Is Cypriot criminal justice reliable?

The UK’s sovereign base areas, which rely on Cypriot law, have not adopted Britain’s 1984 Police and Criminal Evidence Act for investigations. Consequently suspects are sometimes denied access to lawyers, with proper disclosure of evidence and interviews under caution not being tape-recorded, Mercer said. “A suspect in a police station is under enormous pressure and cannot be expected to check every word of statement. Furthermore, they would find it very difficult indeed to ask the police to change the wording when it is not accurate.”

So the court would not have seen this as unjust and discounted it?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/07/cyprus-case-what-legal-challenges-does-the-uk-woman-face

They may not see it as unjust but most people would I would wager and hopefully a European Court of human rights also would

Crimson Dynamo
08-01-2020, 11:49 AM
You don't end up with heavily corrupt police forces without similarly corrupt court systems working in tandem :shrug:. You're posting evidence against your own stance at this point.

i am just posting why that aspect was not accepted by the court. In the UK yes. This is a small island in the med. Their roads are more dangerous too and they dont have as good tap water.

Livia
08-01-2020, 12:40 PM
I read somewhere that apparently they came from "well connected families" and that when they arrived back into Israel people were chanting "The Brit is a *****" I'm glad that the tide has turned on them in Israel though, that says a lot

Yes, there's been a lot of coverage both in Israel and in the Jewish press in the UK. People have been disgusted, and rightly so.

From the Jewish Chronicle:

https://www.thejc.com/comment/columnists/miriam-shaviv-these-boys-are-no-heroes-so-why-the-dancing-1.487040

Livia
08-01-2020, 12:46 PM
I saw this comment?

Michael Davison, you are incorrect. The girl did ask for a lawyer but was told she was not entitled to one under Cypriot law. There are many questions to be answered here but certainly the Israelis receiving a hero’s welcome on their return was inappropriate, and their donning kippot at the airport was a Chilul Hashem of the highest order.

LOL... I thought for a minute it was you posting that... I was impressed.

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 12:58 PM
Yes, there's been a lot of coverage both in Israel and in the Jewish press in the UK. People have been disgusted, and rightly so.

From the Jewish Chronicle:

https://www.thejc.com/comment/columnists/miriam-shaviv-these-boys-are-no-heroes-so-why-the-dancing-1.487040

Well I really hope all this backlash (especially from the boys home country) help the girl get some sort of justice. This part of the article is so spot on even if what happened is what the boys said happened(which I clearly don't believe but for arguments sake) it's disgustingly depraved behaviour that they should be ashamed of, especially while returning to their families. Disrespectful and misogynistic and cruel at the very least

The boys in question had just returned from Cyprus, where they had been accused of raping a British tourist. While they were cleared of any legal wrongdoing, they had apparently filmed her —against her will — having consensual sex. They then kicked her out of their room and released the video online.

LOL... I thought for a minute it was you posting that... I was impressed.

haha no, no idea what that means :laugh: I will guess "kippot" is the hats that Jewish men wear?

Tom4784
08-01-2020, 01:00 PM
Her injuries were consistent with rape, she was stated to be traumatised by the incident and the part that stuck out to me in the doctor's statements was that she wanted her parents and he said that, in his experience, it's not behaviour in line with a liar.

Honestly, I don't think you can look at the evidence that was disallowed by a corrupt judge and come to any other reasonable conclusion other than she was telling the truth.

Livia
08-01-2020, 01:02 PM
Well I really hope all this backlash (especially from the boys home country) help the girl get some sort of justice. This part of the article is so spot on even if what happened is what the boys said happened(which I clearly don't believe but for arguments sake) it's disgustingly depraved behaviour that they should be ashamed of, especially while returning to their families. Disrespectful and misogynistic and cruel at the very least

The boys in question had just returned from Cyprus, where they had been accused of raping a British tourist. While they were cleared of any legal wrongdoing, they had apparently filmed her —against her will — having consensual sex. They then kicked her out of their room and released the video online.




haha no, no idea what that means :laugh: I will guess "kippot" is the hats that Jewish men wear?

The more I read, the guiltier they seem...

Yeah, kippot is one word for it, there are lots. The rest means a crime against God.

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 02:01 PM
The more I read, the guiltier they seem...

Yeah, kippot is one word for it, there are lots. The rest means a crime against God.

ah ok, yeah exactly, it seems like something to be ashamed of even if it did all happen like they claim

Niamh.
08-01-2020, 03:30 PM
Almost £150k raised through gofundme so far to help her get justice :clap1:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/Help-Teen-Victim-Get-Justice-In-Cyprus?fbclid=IwAR28t3vnn1wYAbIdRFcQ7RQkC6HpqAapfN GmuMkjDloWcbMhB0o55PnEuRU

Ammi
08-01-2020, 03:45 PM
Almost £150k raised through gofundme so far to help her get justice :clap1:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/Help-Teen-Victim-Get-Justice-In-Cyprus?fbclid=IwAR28t3vnn1wYAbIdRFcQ7RQkC6HpqAapfN GmuMkjDloWcbMhB0o55PnEuRU

...:love:...

Niamh.
01-02-2022, 10:12 AM
An Update.

UK woman accused of making up Cyprus gang-rape claims has conviction quashed

https://i.imgur.com/oulK6Ch.jpeg

A British woman found guilty of fabricating a claim that she was gang-raped in a holiday resort in Cyprus has been vindicated after the island’s supreme court overturned the conviction.

Two years after the then teenager received a suspended four-month sentence for fomenting public mischief, the court threw out the case, acknowledging she had not been given a fair trial.

“This is a watershed moment,” said Michael Polak of the legal aid group Justice Abroad, who had coordinated the appeal against the conviction. “Not just for our client who has always maintained her innocence even when doing so caused her the hardship of not being able to return home during the lengthy trial proceedings, but also for others round the world in similar positions.”

The verdict, he said, had been achieved “against the odds”.

Persefoni Panayi, the British-born president of the supreme court, upheld the appeal against the conviction, although the three-member panel was divided, with one voting against.

The Derbyshire student, now 21, had described in detail how she was raped by up to 12 Israelis in a hotel room in Ayia Napa in July 2019 after a night out with one of the tourists went horribly wrong. She had threatened to go to the European court of human rights if the effort to clear her name had failed on Monday.

The guilty verdict, handed down by the district court judge Michalis Papathanasiou, had hinged on the Briton allegedly admitting she had falsified her original complaint. Her defence team had argued the handwritten confession, which formed the basis of the prosecution case, was extracted under duress, in the absence of a lawyer, or translator, after more than seven hours of police questioning. Papathanasiou had repeatedly refused to allow the defendant, as she stood in the dock, to speak about the assault, saying: “This is not a rape trial.”

The retraction allowed the alleged assailants, who were aged between 15 and 22 and included the sons of senior Israeli officials, to immediately return home.

The woman’s status changed overnight from victim to suspect and she spent four weeks in Nicosia general prison before being forced to remain on the Mediterranean island for a further six months as court proceedings dragged on.

The woman, who has never been publicly named, was not in Nicosia to hear the news on Monday, with her lawyers describing their client as still too traumatised to travel. But in a statement, her mother responded to the outcome, saying: “It is a great relief we hear that the authorities in Cyprus have recognised the flaws in their legal process. Whilst this decision doesn’t excuse the way she was treated by the police, or the judge or those in authority, it does bring with it the hope that my daughter’s suffering will at least bring positive changes in the way victims of crime are treated.”

Demonstrators who had gathered outside the capital’s supreme court cheered as Polak applauded the Briton’s “brave Cypriot female lawyers” who, he said, were repeatedly “shouted at and treated with contempt during the trial proceedings”.

Some carried banners scrawled with the words “end rape culture” and “rape is a crime”.

Women’s groups, which have deplored the handling of the case, believe the woman not only fell victim to macho culture but also to issues of diplomacy. At a time of heightened tensions in the eastern Mediterranean over offshore energy rights, the Greek Cypriot government has been keen to maintain close ties with Jerusalem.

In Israel, where women’s rights activists have also come out in support for the university student, local media asked: “Will the boys now go on trial, or will we never find the truth?” Having denied any wrongdoing, most have spent the past two years in obligatory national service.

Polak said he was pleased with the result, but he told the Guardian that for justice to be properly rendered a fresh investigation of the rape complaint would need to be conducted.

In a 154-page dossier submitted before the supreme court, the defence team argued that the police inquiry into the teenager’s sexual assault claims was in breach of investigating standards.

“We want the investigation to be transferred to a different police force so that all the evidence in this case can be considered fairly and dispassionately,” he said. “Cypriot authorities now have a duty to properly investigate the rape complaint because it is clear that was never done.”


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/31/uk-woman-accused-making-up-cyprus-gang-claims-conviction-quashed?fbclid=IwAR3oeKh13NgiNJfkDwXqJYoe-W_61evMgAZzvc1rmNz3OcuOuolVkjbO7RE

arista
01-02-2022, 10:19 AM
"the island’s supreme court overturned the conviction."


Yes about time.
Real sad how that young lady has suffered

user104658
01-02-2022, 10:22 AM
God, this story was just dripping with corruption, really awful. Of course the aim has been served now so of course it was overturned - it was ludicrous - but the eyes of the world are off of the perpetrators now and they'll never face consequences or even much scrutiny. That was the reason for doing it. From their perspective it's "fine" for her name to be cleared now because enough time has passed for the glare to be off those men, or rather, boys, which makes it somehow even more disturbing.

Niamh.
01-02-2022, 10:22 AM
What she went through though and people wonder why women either don't speak up at all or take a long time to speak up......

Very interested if those animals are going to be investigated for her rape now as well

user104658
01-02-2022, 10:23 AM
Very interested if those animals are going to be investigated for her rape now as well

They might reopen it but they're safely tucked up back at home now and the chance of Israel co-operating with any reopened investigation is probably pretty much zero.

Niamh.
01-02-2022, 10:30 AM
They might reopen it but they're safely tucked up back at home now and the chance of Israel co-operating with any reopened investigation is probably pretty much zero.

Yeah I know especially when they "included the sons of senior Israeli officials"

Niamh.
16-06-2022, 11:43 AM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ayia-napa-european-court-of-human-rights-b2100671.html?fbclid=IwAR1Z0U2g9NSsA5kd1XMdzR8gkdY _tRZvqYK1KJTR1hTwaPE2_oCYe-DW_wI

arista
16-06-2022, 11:49 AM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ayia-napa-european-court-of-human-rights-b2100671.html?fbclid=IwAR1Z0U2g9NSsA5kd1XMdzR8gkdY _tRZvqYK1KJTR1hTwaPE2_oCYe-DW_wI


Yes worth trying the (ECHR)

Zizu
16-06-2022, 04:43 PM
Not sure of the details of this case but we constantly hear of young women travelling alone to the most remote or dangerous places


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bots
16-06-2022, 04:44 PM
i bet you will find that cyprus ignores the court

Niamh.
16-06-2022, 05:17 PM
Not sure of the details of this case but we constantly hear of young women travelling alone to the most remote or dangerous places


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt's a very popular holiday destination, it isn't remote

bots
16-06-2022, 05:29 PM
i lived in cyprus for several years and it's a very safe place, but the hubs that have drunken youngsters packed in will have exactly the same issues as anywhere else in the world

user104658
16-06-2022, 06:09 PM
i lived in cyprus for several years and it's a very safe place, but the hubs that have drunken youngsters packed in will have exactly the same issues as anywhere else in the world


Over indulging in alcohol, people selling party drugs, bit of sunburn, spot of gang rape…

Zizu
16-06-2022, 06:17 PM
It's a very popular holiday destination, it isn't remote


I was speaking generally .. not in regards of this case


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