YouTuber accidentally uploads video of her beating, shoving and spitting on her dog

[Morgan.]

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Her response;

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The fact she isn’t taking responsibility and trying to paint herself as a good owner is :umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

not watching it

[Jordan.]

Saw this last night, really hope the dog is taken away from her.

[Niamh.]

horrible bitch. Also that ear and tail docking is illegal over here

[Vicky.]

Saw this on ladbible (yes I follow that, sometimes its decent :laugh: )

Horrid person.

[RileyH]

she is HORRIBLE and ang scalpedt her
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[Tony Montana]

Horrible bitch.

I hope the dog is taken away from her.

[Mystic Mock]

She's a bitch.


The owner that is, why have a pet if you can't be nice to him/her?

[GoldHeart]

How do you "accidentally" upload a video of animal cruelty?? :crazy: .
Either way this idiot shouldn't be allowed to have pets

[Morgan.]

How do you "accidentally" upload a video of animal cruelty?? :crazy: .
Either way this idiot shouldn't be allowed to have pets

Instead of uploading the complete edited video, she uploaded the raw footage.

[Nicky91]

How do you "accidentally" upload a video of animal cruelty?? :crazy: .
Either way this idiot shouldn't be allowed to have pets

yes seems fishy, also YouTube should delete this girl's account, since animal cruelty is also something you should be against

one far right uk girl her account on YouTube got removed few days ago, because YouTube doesn't approve of too extreme far right video content

i'd say animal cruelty video content is also NOT what anyone wants to see

[arista]

Big Dog
no good for her

[Kate!]

yes seems fishy, also YouTube should delete this girl's account, since animal cruelty is also something you should be against

one far right uk girl her account on YouTube got removed few days ago, because YouTube doesn't approve of too extreme far right video content

i'd say animal cruelty video content is also NOT what anyone wants to see

So true Nicky. Its sick. Action should be taken against her to never be able to have a pet again.

[Dogeatdog]

What a horrible person, I find it so frustrating that people like this own pets. What I’d find even more annoying is that if that dog had turned on her and bit her, he would probably get put down.

[Twosugars]

She's a psycho
So she had a bad week and thinks it's ok to take it out on an animal who simply wants to play?!
She's unfit to own that poor dog.
The local police are investigating and I hope they take the dog away and prosecute that nasty bitch

[LaLaLand]

Absolute scumbag I hope the dog is seized and rehomed to responsible, caring owners.

[Beso]

not watching it

It's not to bad LT....it's a young doberman and she's a young woman...if I'm not mistaken these dogs need to know who is boss from the off..watch it with that in mind.

[Amy Jade]

She's awful and deserves the dog taking away from her. It only wanted to play bless it :(

[Twosugars]

It's not to bad LT....it's a young doberman and she's a young woman...if I'm not mistaken these dogs need to know who is boss from the off..watch it with that in mind.

:umm2:

[Morgan.]

It's not to bad LT....it's a young doberman and she's a young woman...if I'm not mistaken these dogs need to know who is boss from the off..watch it with that in mind.

:umm2:

[SherzyK]

It's not to bad LT....it's a young doberman and she's a young woman...if I'm not mistaken these dogs need to know who is boss from the off..watch it with that in mind.

A bit sick though physically harming an animal to get it to do what you want

[SherzyK]

The way she looks at the dog too. Absolutely disgusting

[Beso]

I mean don't get me wrong, it's not nice to watch any animal being hit..but this ain't no normal animal and needs to know who is in charge or it may end up thinking it's the boss when it's older..these dogs are police dogs fgs..how do you think that training goes?


Sorry folks, but the dog kept coming back for more because she wasn't effecting it one bit...but it's still not nice to see I admit...I am an animal lover and could never lay a hand on one which is why I will stick with my little chuahuahua bert.

But these things are a breed apart, and need to be shown the authority..which is why they should be banned.....


But then that would meet wiping out a species.

[SherzyK]

I mean don't get me wrong, it's not nice to watch any animal being hit..but this ain't no normal animal and needs to know who is in charge or it may end up thinking it's the boss when it's older..these dogs are police dogs fgs..how do you think that training goes?


Sorry folks, but the dog kept coming back for more because she wasn't effecting it one bit...but it's still not nice to see I admit...I am an animal lover and could never lay a hand on one which is why I will stick with my little chuahuahua bert.

But these things are a breed apart, and need to be shown the authority..which is why they should be banned.....


But then that would meet wiping out a species.

So someone else doing it is acceptable? Okay then :conf:

[Matthew.]

Absolutely disgraceful and sickening.

It's not to bad LT....it's a young doberman and she's a young woman...if I'm not mistaken these dogs need to know who is boss from the off..watch it with that in mind.

Teaching a dog obedience is along the lines of “Down”, “Gentle”, “Fetch”, not ****ing spitting on the dog and attacking them? So I’d argue that yes it is that bad.

[Twosugars]

I mean don't get me wrong, it's not nice to watch any animal being hit..but this ain't no normal animal and needs to know who is in charge or it may end up thinking it's the boss when it's older..these dogs are police dogs fgs..how do you think that training goes?


Sorry folks, but the dog kept coming back for more because she wasn't effecting it one bit...but it's still not nice to see I admit...I am an animal lover and could never lay a hand on one which is why I will stick with my little chuahuahua bert.

But these things are a breed apart, and need to be shown the authority..which is why they should be banned.....


But then that would meet wiping out a species.

Nonsense.
Punishment based training is damaging and wrong.
No matter what breed you dont do that.

Any proof that the police beat their dogs? Bc this is a shocking allegation

[SherzyK]

And is she even raising the dog to work in the police force? I doubt it

[Twosugars]

So someone else doing it is acceptable? Okay then :conf:

I dont believe for a second police dogs are beaten in training

[Beso]

Nonsense.
Punishment based training is damaging and wrong.
No matter what breed you dont do that.

Any proof that the police beat their dogs? Bc this is a shocking allegation

The police use alsations in this country...a totally different breed of dog altogether

[Morgan.]

And is she even raising the dog to work in the police force? I doubt it

Nope, from my knowledge she bought the puppy at 8 weeks for her 20th, and is raising it as her pet.

She has a cat too which should be taken off her as well :idc:

[joeysteele]

Truly horrible person.

To even think of behaviour like this let alone do it.

[Beso]

And is she even raising the dog to work in the police force? I doubt it

The dog may have been being beaten in your head and hers, but that beating was playfighting in the dogs; now if it always wins the playfighting as a puppy...and grows out of playfighting. ..then you have an issue..

[Moniqua]

SAVE THE DOG OMG :bawling:

[thesheriff443]

Has any one see the one recently in wich a young women is dog sitting a labrador puppy and throws it on the kitchen floor, she was caught on a hidden camera by the owners.

[Ammi]

...as grim as it is how she is with the dog...I hope she doesn’t get barraged with hate for this...she needs help in learning how to handle and treat the dog or have it removed from her care...I hope that’s what happens...not a storm of hate against her...

[thesheriff443]

did you know, people pets are being stolen in this country to be used in dog fights were they let a dog rip another one apart.

[Beso]

did you know, people pets are being stolen in this country to be used in dog fights were they let a dog rip another one apart.

That's why my bertie stays very close at all times.

[Jigs]

who the **** SPITS in a dogs face? So hateful and irresponsible

[thesheriff443]

...as grim as it is how she is with the dog...I hope she doesn’t get barraged with hate for this...she needs help in learning how to handle and treat the dog or have it removed from her care...I hope that’s what happens...not a storm of hate against her...

Hello ammi, your post is a measured response to this, I think think the worse thing she did in the video is spit on the dog, that takes her actions from frustration to a darker place.

[Jigs]

Hello ammi, your post is a measured response to this, I think think the worse thing she did in the video is spit on the dog, that takes her actions from frustration to a darker place.

I agree.

I've shoved my dog away from me when he's in an excitable mood but the look in her eyes and the fact she spat on him makes her intentions seem really dark and disturbing

[Beso]

I agree.

I've shoved my dog away from me when he's in an excitable mood but the look in her eyes and the fact she spat on him makes her intentions seem really dark and disturbing

The show must go on it seems.

[Beso]

Just watched the clip on the big tv..the first bit the dog jumps up on her and she pushes it away..2nd one the dog licked her face. .then she flipped...and spat..omg I thought she just gnawed it's burse on my phone....dirty cow..


She can't and will never properly be able to handle that dog if she is looking after it alone so it needs rehoused.

[thisisdanny]

I don't want to watch it :(

[Twosugars]

...as grim as it is how she is with the dog...I hope she doesn’t get barraged with hate for this...she needs help in learning how to handle and treat the dog or have it removed from her care...I hope that’s what happens...not a storm of hate against her...

Too late for that
Over 70k posts on her Twitter
Somebody contacted the police and local equivalent of RSPCA, both are investigating

[Beso]

Too late for that
Over 70k posts on her Twitter
Somebody contacted the police and local equivalent of RSPCA, both are investigating

Ofgs...

Imagine the headline..WOMAN FOUND GUILTY FOR SPITTING ON DOG"

A local free paper would be ever so proud of that one...No doubt a 4 to 6 pager on TIBB though.:joker:

[Twosugars]

Ofgs...

Imagine the headline..WOMAN FOUND GUILTY FOR SPITTING ON DOG"

A local free paper would be ever so proud of that one...No doubt a 4 to 6 pager on TIBB though.:joker:
And beating the dog
Animal cruelty plain and simple
And her apologies show lack of understanding what she did wrong so

[Kizzy]

Happy go lucky?... she's a pent up mess, give the dog up and get some therapy!
And she tries to blame the dog! Pretty sure she's angling for her sub to pay for the training...so glad this came to light, poor thing :(

[Morgan.]

And beating the dog
Animal cruelty plain and simple
And her apologies show lack of understanding what she did wrong so

Yep. You can even see the reflection in the TV screen (or it may have been a mirror, icr :laugh:) at the end it looks as if she kicks him </3

[Beso]

Yep. You can even see the reflection in the TV screen (or it may have been a mirror, icr :laugh:) at the end it looks as if she kicks him </3

You saw the reflection in the tv screen sir?...

"Well it may have been a mirror your honour"



Her kicks are just shoves with legs ffs.

[Twosugars]

I sense her YouTube influencer days are over


A YouTube personality with more than 300,000 subscribers was facing strong backlash and was the center of a Los Angeles Police Department investigation Wednesday after apparently accidentally uploading a video that showed her allegedly abusing her dog.

In the uncut video, which has since been removed from her YouTube page, Brooke Houts says she is going to prank her pup using cling wrap, before she is seen spitting on, shoving and slapping her dog.

The backlash came fast and furious on social media Wednesday, with users also leaving comments on her other YouTube videos, some saying they have reported her to LA Animal Services.

"Dogs deserve respect. If you can't treat dogs with kindness and instead hit them, don't get one," PETA tweeted, also calling on YouTube to banish her from the platform.

Within hours, the LAPD's Animal Cruelty Unit began investigating.

"I sense no ACTUAL remorse in @brookehouts 'apology'. The footage of Brooke abusing her dog shows she is UNFIT to have a pet," pro wrestler Kassius said on Twitter.



NBC Los Angeles

[Marsh.]

I really don't get people like this.

Nobody is forced into owning pets. If you can't deal with them, don't have them. So selfish and unfair on the animals.

[Beso]

Has anyone who has commentated on this thread ever had or know anyone who has had one of these dogs?

[Twosugars]

No breed of dog justifies violence, period

[Toy Soldier]

Has anyone who has commentated on this thread ever had or know anyone who has had one of these dogs?Hitting or getting aggressive with any dog leads to a dog that is unpredictable and snappy. If that's a little terrier someone's going to get a nasty bite on the fingers. If it's a large dog like this, it could end with someone being SEVERELY maimed or even killed.

It's WORSE because it's a dog like this. So unbelievably reckless.

[Beso]

Hitting or getting aggressive with any dog leads to a dog that is unpredictable and snappy. If that's a little terrier someone's going to get a nasty bite on the fingers. If it's a large dog like this, it could end with someone being SEVERELY maimed or even killed.

It's WORSE because it's a dog like this. So unbelievably reckless.

Reckless for her...


But a dog that size needs to know it can't jump up on people...it jumped..and was bounding about her, licking her hands..wanting to play...it needs to know that it can't do that when she doesn't want it to.


At no.point was that dog harmed, that was just her idiotic nature coming out...I mean spitting on a dog, wtf..but if you did what she was trying to do in a more controlled and consistent manner that dog would be fine...


But I'm 100 percent certain at no point that dog felt scared or in danger.

[Toy Soldier]

Reckless for her...


But a dog that size needs to know it can't jump up on people...it jumped..and was bounding about her, licking her hands..wanting to play...it needs to know that it can't do that when she doesn't want it to.


At no.point was that dog harmed, that was just her idiotic nature coming out...I mean spitting on a dog, wtf..but if you did what she was trying to do in a more controlled and consistent manner that dog would be fine...


But I'm 100 percent certain at no point that dog felt scared or in danger.

Dangerous for anyone that comes into contact with the dog. You show a dog aggression, it learns aggression. It's that simple. Get a dog and keep hitting it in the face and one day I guarantee it will hurt someone... and it probably won't be the person hitting it because it'll be subservient to that person. It'll be another dog that gets mauled, or a stranger in the street, or someone's kid at the park.

[Morgan.]

Reckless for her...


But a dog that size needs to know it can't jump up on people...it jumped..and was bounding about her, licking her hands..wanting to play...it needs to know that it can't do that when she doesn't want it to.


At no.point was that dog harmed, that was just her idiotic nature coming out...I mean spitting on a dog, wtf..but if you did what she was trying to do in a more controlled and consistent manner that dog would be fine...


But I'm 100 percent certain at no point that dog felt scared or in danger.

Not even when she just pointed at him and he flinched and jumped backwards?

[Twosugars]

Reckless for her...


But a dog that size needs to know it can't jump up on people...it jumped..and was bounding about her, licking her hands..wanting to play...it needs to know that it can't do that when she doesn't want it to.


At no.point was that dog harmed, that was just her idiotic nature coming out...I mean spitting on a dog, wtf..but if you did what she was trying to do in a more controlled and consistent manner that dog would be fine...


But I'm 100 percent certain at no point that dog felt scared or in danger.

That's not the way to do it. Aggressive methods of training have been abandoned long time ago bc they do more harm than good.
If the dog jumps you say no in a firm voice, turn away and ignore it. Not shove, kick and spit, jfc

[Amy Jade]

Has anyone who has commentated on this thread ever had or know anyone who has had one of these dogs?

Not a doberman but my aunt has 2 Rottweilers and they are like big teddy bears and yes they were like bulls in a China shop when they were pups but you can discipline an animal of any size without violence.

[Jessica.]

That video is sick :(

[JerseyWins]

Saw this the other day but never watched the actual video until now. Gross & really strange/sadistic that she's even getting that frustrated about her dog just jumping around and what not :skull: (and that her entire personality/demeanor changes so quickly as well)

Also there's no way she just happened to be acting this way on the one clip she uploads the raw footage of by mistake... it must be a constant thing which.. poor dog :(

[Ammi]

...I read that she’s had death threats..sadly it was inevitable..I never understand the stance of those who behave in a worse way than the subject of their outrage...she’s obviously going to lose her career and income as a Youtuber and has lost any respect of affection she may have had...and hopefully she’ll never be a pet owner again ...or at least for a very long time if her ownership in the future was somehow supervised and monitored...the worst thing would have been that this vid was never accidentally uploaded and that she had continued to parent that powerful dog in that way...I shudder what the outcome could have been...

[bots]

I refuse to watch the video. I will just say that it takes a lot of sequential "accidents" for a video to end up uploaded and available for public viewing .... not one.

I mean, why has no-one questioned why she was videoing what she did to her dog in the first place

[Beso]

I refuse to watch the video. I will just say that it takes a lot of sequential "accidents" for a video to end up uploaded and available for public viewing .... not one.

I mean, why has no-one questioned why she was videoing what she did to her dog in the first place



She was trying to do her you tubing into the camera bit the dog kept leaping up at her wanting to play... she spat on it...whilst disciplining it.

[bots]

She was trying to do her you tubing into the camera bit the dog kept leaping up at her wanting to play... she spat on it...whilst disciplining it.

well, see it's not a difficult thing to hit pause on the video, it's also not difficult to cut a segment out of the video.

To me, she was looking to create a bit of controversy, that's what youtubers do when their reach gets static

[thesheriff443]

Could forum members get a sense of perspective? People are killing dogs for food and skinning them alive for their fur they are doing the same thing to cats.

What she is doing is wrong but she is not smashing it in the head with a hammer.

[Kazanne]

Could forum members get a sense of perspective? People are killing dogs for food and skinning them alive for their fur they are doing the same thing to cats.

What she is doing is wrong but she is not smashing it in the head with a hammer.

Actually this is true,I haven't watched the video as Im sure I would be furious,as I hate animal cruelty of any kind and you are right the dogs ,cats that are killed for food literally DO get smashed in the head,there are sadly so many vile individuals about.

[Cherie]

well, see it's not a difficult thing to hit pause on the video, it's also not difficult to cut a segment out of the video.

To me, she was looking to create a bit of controversy, that's what youtubers do when their reach gets static

tend to agree, find it odd she uploaded it 'by accident'

[Morgan.]

I refuse to watch the video. I will just say that it takes a lot of sequential "accidents" for a video to end up uploaded and available for public viewing .... not one.

I mean, why has no-one questioned why she was videoing what she did to her dog in the first place

She was filming a video about life with a new dog, or something on those lines, and that’s why he was there and it was filmed.

And from my understanding, she uploaded the raw footage instead of the edited video, and that’s how it ended up online.

[Twosugars]

Could forum members get a sense of perspective? People are killing dogs for food and skinning them alive for their fur they are doing the same thing to cats.

What she is doing is wrong but she is not smashing it in the head with a hammer.

Ok. Next time someone gets beaten/ kidnapped/raped etc n the UK I will tell you to get a sense of perspective bc there's a war going on somewhere.

[Marsh.]

Anyway, I too find it odd that she uploaded this. Was it a live broadcast? If not strange that she didn't at least edit it out if not pause the recording to inflict her abuse on that poor animal.

[Cherie]

Anyway, I too find it odd that she uploaded this. Was it a live broadcast? If not strange that she didn't at least edit it out if not pause the recording to inflict her abuse on that poor animal.

agree its very odd, she is not an amateur, the poor dog should be taken off her though

[Liam-]

Imagine being that much of a dick that you spit on a dog

[Morgan.]

Anyway, I too find it odd that she uploaded this. Was it a live broadcast? If not strange that she didn't at least edit it out if not pause the recording to inflict her abuse on that poor animal.

From my understanding she uploaded the raw footage instead of the edited file

[Cherie]

From my understanding she uploaded the raw footage instead of the edited file

oh right

[Vicky.]

So she was meant to upload a nice fluffy video with all of the violence and stuff edited out, to make herself seem like a good dog owner, just positivity and stroking and that? That kind of makes her worse as she clearly knowsthat how she treats it is seriously wrong, rather than it being a 'just how you train dogs' kind of thing :umm2:

I am sure I have seen an 'apology' where she tries to blame it on mental health problems.

Shes vile. Utterly vile.

[Morgan.]

So she was meant to upload a nice fluffy video with all of the violence and stuff edited out, to make herself seem like a good dog owner, just positivity and stroking and that? That kind of makes her worse as she clearly knowsthat how she treats it is seriously wrong, rather than it being a 'just how you train dogs' kind of thing :umm2:

I am sure I have seen an 'apology' where she tries to blame it on mental health problems.

Shes vile. Utterly vile.

There’s an apology in the OP, she said she was having a bad day/week whatever. She also complains that one on one dog training is very expensive - to which I say of you can’t afford a dog, don’t have one!

She also decides she’s a good owner because she buys lots of toys for him?! That doesn’t make you a good owner that just makes you rich :umm2: (all the more reason she should be getting the proper dog training)

[Vicky.]

There’s an apology in the OP, she said she was having a bad day/week whatever. She also complains that one on one dog training is very expensive - to which I say of you can’t afford a dog, don’t have one!

She also decides she’s a good owner because she buys lots of toys for him?! That doesn’t make you a good owner that just makes you rich :umm2: (all the more reason she should be getting the proper dog training)

I have had many bad days and have never ever hit a dog I have had, or spat at it. If default on bad days is behaviour like that, then you are a bad person tbh.

Toys do not make you a good owner, just makes you bloody flush with cash. Cash is nothing to do with being a good dog owner really.

Yeah training can be expensive. But you can do it yourself too. Its either expensive, or takes some of your time. One of which, yoiu need to be willing to give up.

[bots]

it's got all the ingredients for a villain/redemption arc story line designed to exploit/manipulate the viewership

[Niamh.]

I have had many bad days and have never ever hit a dog I have had, or spat at it. If default on bad days is behaviour like that, then you are a bad person tbh.

Toys do not make you a good owner, just makes you bloody flush with cash. Cash is nothing to do with being a good dog owner really.

Who would even think to spit at a dog, it's just weird behaviour. A big dog like that really needs alot of exercise and proper training which I don't think a "normal" person can really do properly unless they have some basic dog training themselves. It's important when you have a dog of that kind that can potentially become a danger

[armand.kay]

The was she switched between smiley YouTuber to smacking the crap out of her dog was... chilling.

[Twosugars]

There are so many good tv series, books and manuals about dog training out there, she has no excuse.

[Niamh.]

Also, I mentioned back along the thread, the dog had is ears cut and tail docked, is that still legal in the states? horrible practise

[Ammi]

..it would be nice if she did some volunteer work in a dog rescue...work with some of the dogs who have been abused by humans...

[Cherie]

Also, I mentioned back along the thread, the dog had is ears cut and tail docked, is that still legal in the states? horrible practise


awful practice, and all for cosmetic reasons

[Niamh.]

awful practice, and all for cosmetic reasons

And they still allow cat declawing which is even worse

[Toy Soldier]

Oh FFS I hadn't even watched it and now that I have, any excuses that it's training are flat out ridiculous. For one, the first time she hits it across the head, it's for not falling for the prank she wants to make a video about. That simple. It doesn't even misbehave - it just doesn't walk into the clingfilm "trick" and tries to jump over it instead, so she smacks it in the face. :facepalm:

Then she physically pins it to the floor for trying to lick her and the way she looks at it :umm2:... and then at the end she shoves it off camera (again, for licking her) and then quite clearly in the reflection hits it several times.

"Training".

[Twosugars]

Also, I mentioned back along the thread, the dog had is ears cut and tail docked, is that still legal in the states? horrible practise

I know :rant: its plain mutilation!
Dogs need ears and tails for communication ffs and to be complete dogs

Is there a better sight than seeing your dog wag its tail? I dont think so.

[Vicky.]

And they still allow cat declawing which is even worseOur 'vet' advised this when our kitten was clawing everything in sight (including the kids D: )..I didn't know it was even legal..let alone offered as a first response to issues..we didn't do it. And changed vet too.

Oh FFS I hadn't even watched it and now that I have, any excuses that it's training are flat out ridiculous. For one, the first time she hits it across the head, it's for not falling for the prank she wants to make a video about. That simple. It doesn't even misbehave - it just doesn't walk into the clingfilm "trick" and tries to jump over it instead, so she smacks it in the face. :facepalm:

Then she physically pins it to the floor for trying to lick her and the way she looks at it :umm2:... and then at the end she shoves it off camera (again, for licking her) and then quite clearly in the reflection hits it several times.

"Training".

Yeah, I watched a little of it to start with, then a little more after commenting. The whole thing though..makes me feel a bit ill. The training excuse is absolutely pathetic. It really is. Thats not training. Not even a little.

[Vicky.]

The ears and tail docked thing is vile too obviously. I don't get it, even for cosmetic reasons as it just looks..odd? It doesnt look any better, infact much worse. So cannot even see it from the side of people who think cutting off parts of your animal to make it look better is fine really..

[bots]

What has been done to dogs for generations is nothing short of obscene. Forced
selective breeding to produce dogs that look cute or run faster are more violent etc etc etc. It's one of the biggest travesties of human kind.

[Niamh.]

I really thought declawing was illegal in the UK as well Vicky, shocking that a Vet would suggest that

[Cherie]

What has been done to dogs for generations is nothing short of obscene. Forced
selective breeding to produce dogs that look cute or run faster are more violent etc etc etc. It's one of the biggest travesties of human kind.

Pugs are my pet hate, struggling to breath, and those tiny teacup dogs, just awful

[Vicky.]

..it would be nice if she did some volunteer work in a dog rescue...work with some of the dogs who have been abused by humans...

I actually think there should be some kind of license for owning an animal, and people should have to do basic training courses and such beforehand. I know that seems harsh, but so much of this **** goes on. I mean, when we had Ryu, literally the only reason we had him was because we had looked after him for a night because his owner wanted to go out and he didn't do wel on his own for long periods of time, but when the owner came to get him back the next morning, the dog jumped up at him happy to see him and he punched him full force in the face. Gavin refused to give him back and we changed chip and stuff to my name. Technically illegal, yes, but like **** was the poor dog (was only maybe 6 months old then too) going back to that abusive 'friend' (who is no longer a friend these days for obvious reasons).

Too many people abuse animals. I am sure many many more do the odd kick..hit..and do not abuse constantly but think its fine as its just a dog or whateve.r Its gross, and should be illegal. Its 'illegal' but there never really seems to be any punishments doled out for it. I used to watch those animal resuce programs, and regardless of the state of things, the owners only ever used to get small fines, if that :umm2:

[Toy Soldier]

I don't understand why anyone would de-claw a cat. Maybe as some sort of extreme measure if it's an adult that's actually seeking people out to harm? :think:

Other than that... kittens are scratchy! They don't have the same control over their babyclaws as adult cats and they're playful, so scratches happen. I got tonnes of scratches from our cat when she was a baby and she's the friendliest cat. She's only about 18 months old now and she never scratches anyone any more, and the kids pester the **** out of her :joker:.

So basically there's just no need. They'll grow out of it when they hit adulthood and keep their claws retracted of their own accord! And if it's because of scratching furniture, if you provide a good scratching post it's very easy to train them not to do that either.

[Vicky.]

Pugs are my pet hate, struggling to breath, and those tiny teacup dogs, just awful

Yeah, I only found out recently that pugs were bred to actually be like that, For some reason I thought they were naturally like that..why would you breed it specifically to make it hard to breathe..poor things :bored:

[Niamh.]

I just googled it and declawing is illegal in the UK Vicky............really dodgy Vet :skull:

[Vicky.]

I don't understand why anyone would de-claw a cat. Maybe as some sort of extreme measure if it's an adult that's actually seeking people out to harm? :think:

Other than that... kittens are scratchy! They don't have the same control over their babyclaws as adult cats and they're playful, so scratches happen. I got tonnes of scratches from our cat when she was a baby and she's the friendliest cat. She's only about 18 months old now and she never scratches anyone any more, and the kids pester the **** out of her :joker:.

So basically there's just no need. They'll grow out of it when they hit adulthood and keep their claws retracted of their own accord! And if it's because of scratching furniture, if you provide a good scratching post it's very easy to train them not to do that either.

Ours refused to use the many scratching posts we had for it, preferred to claw the children :laugh:

We only went to the vet for advice on what to try next. Being 'advised' to do that literally made me feel ill. Wasn't even an independant vet, was like..a large chain store place :S

[Niamh.]

I don't understand why anyone would de-claw a cat. Maybe as some sort of extreme measure if it's an adult that's actually seeking people out to harm? :think:

Other than that... kittens are scratchy! They don't have the same control over their babyclaws as adult cats and they're playful, so scratches happen. I got tonnes of scratches from our cat when she was a baby and she's the friendliest cat. She's only about 18 months old now and she never scratches anyone any more, and the kids pester the **** out of her :joker:.

So basically there's just no need. They'll grow out of it when they hit adulthood and keep their claws retracted of their own accord! And if it's because of scratching furniture, if you provide a good scratching post it's very easy to train them not to do that either.

Yeah my fella never really scratched the furniture but he would stick his claws in people sometimes when he was playing, I used to pretend to cry when he did it and he'd stop and start licking me instead :laugh:

[Vicky.]

I just googled it and declawing is illegal in the UK Vicky............really dodgy Vet :skull:

How long has that been the case?

Abbey Veterinary Centre - advised 'declawing'. Or did as little as 4 years back. They appear to be part of larger chains too.

[Niamh.]

How long has that been the case?

Abbey Veterinary Centre - advised 'declawing'. Or did as little as 4 years back. They appear to be part of larger chains too.

What is declawing?
Declawing involves the removal or part removal of a cat’s digital phalanges – the bone to which the claw is attached. Whilst the practice of declawing is relatively popular in the USA (an estimated 25% of domestic cats are declawed in the US), it is declining in popularity, thanks to anti-cruelty campaigns and being banned in some states. In the UK, declawing cats for any non-medical reason was officially made illegal in 2006, and is now punishable with a £20,000 fine and/or up to a year in prison.

https://pawpost.co.uk/blog/blog/2016/01/15/declawing-everything-you-need-to-know/#.XU1Db-NKgnQ

[Vicky.]

Bloody hell. I wonder if its worth reporting now? I guess it will be my word vs theirs, but surely others will have been 'advised' the same, or taken them up on it..

Is it one of those things where they can claim 'medical reason' for anything..possibly. Where those words basicaslly make it legal..

[Nicky91]

i sometimes don't get why people would have pets in the first place then, if they don't like 1) licking of a dog since that is common what dogs do, and 2) sharp claws of a cat, since that declawing sounds quite a disgusting and painful procedure

[Twosugars]

How long has that been the case?

Abbey Veterinary Centre - advised 'declawing'. Or did as little as 4 years back. They appear to be part of larger chains too.

Avoid chains if you can, a general rule for choosing a vet

[Vicky.]

Avoid chains if you can, a general rule for choosing a vet

Yeah, so we found out!

[Twosugars]

People like the Kennel Club have a lot to answer for when it comes to breeding.
That's why BBC dumped Crufts.
Many big breeds have dysplasia bc of ridiculous breed standards

[Nicky91]

People like the Kennel Club have a lot to answer for when it comes to breeding.
That's why BBC dumped Crufts.
Many big breeds have dysplasia bc of ridiculous breed standards

Crufts is something what isn't animal cruelty, not by far (my mom agrees with me about this, and she's against a lot of animal cruelty herself, she just doesn't these videos anymore because that makes her cry all the time)

me and my parents watched a lot of Crufts during our america holidays, which is coincidentally on at the time of our holidays

[bots]

Crufts is something what isn't animal cruelty, not by far (my mom agrees with me about this, and she's against a lot of animal cruelty herself, she just doesn't these videos anymore because that makes her cry all the time)

me and my parents watched a lot of Crufts during our america holidays, which is coincidentally on at the time of our holidays

Crufts and the kennel club perpetuate the need to produce a perfect dog. There is no such thing, never has been and as such, they are a disgrace continuing the practice for their own profit.

[AnnieK]

Crufts and the kennel club perpetuate the need to produce a perfect dog. There is no such thing, never has been and as such, they are a disgrace continuing the practice for their own profit.

Agree, seeing how so many breeds have changed over the years due to inbreeding is heartbreaking. Snouts shorter causing breathing problems - the British Bulldog is unrecognisable to what it originally looked like.

[Kazanne]

Crufts and the kennel club perpetuate the need to produce a perfect dog. There is no such thing, never has been and as such, they are a disgrace continuing the practice for their own profit.

Totally agree Bots,just no need for it at all.All dogs are beautiful and don't need changing, that is what I don't like about humans,they think they have the God given right to alter things that they don't find pleasing to the eye.

[Nicky91]

Crufts and the kennel club perpetuate the need to produce a perfect dog. There is no such thing, never has been and as such, they are a disgrace continuing the practice for their own profit.

Totally agree Bots,just no need for it at all.All dogs are beautiful and don't need changing, that is what I don't like about humans,they think they have the God given right to alter things that they don't find pleasing to the eye.

i do agree with this, but one of my former fb friends Liss Jones (yes same girl who did the voice uk many years back) (when i was on fb myself) does go to these sort of events like crufts with her bulldog bear, and she treats her dog like a true princess, but yet has won medals with her too

[Vicky.]

Beauty pageant type things never sit right with me, not sure why. That includes animal ones tbh.

[Beso]

i do agree with this, but one of my former fb friends Liss Jones (yes same girl who did the voice uk many years back) (when i was on fb myself) does go to these sort of events like crufts with her bulldog bear, and she treats her dog like a true princess, but yet has won medals with her too

I bet the dog is so pleaseD with its rosette.:joker:

[Gstar]

She’s cancelled

[Twosugars]

The problem with the Kennel Club is it's made up of former and current breeders.
Take just one breed, the German shepherd. The idiotic breed description calls for a sloping back. As a result the hip socket is underdeveloped and legs come out of the joint leading to pain and disability.
Less said about the short snouts the better or about malformed skulls where brain doesn't have enough room and dogs suffer from seizures and pain.
Somewhere along the line those breeders forgot about dogs in their competitive outdoing of one another

[Niamh.]

The problem with the Kennel Club is it's made up of former and current breeders.
Take just one breed, the German shepherd. The idiotic breed description calls for a sloping back. As a result the hip socket is underdeveloped and legs come out of the joint leading to pain and disability.
Less said about the short snouts the better or about malformed skulls where brain doesn't have enough room and dogs suffer from seizures and pain.
Somewhere along the line those breeders forgot about dogs in their competitive outdoing of one another

My favourite breed along with Border Collies

[Beso]

Don't pure pedigrees have mental issues?

[Twosugars]

My favourite breed along with Border Collies

Both at the top for me too, plus some non-drooling mastiffs and rottweiler.

After our late mastiff who was beautiful inside and out, we have a soft spot for big dogs with chunky paws and square snouts :lovedup:

[Niamh.]

Both at the top for me too, plus some non-drooling mastiffs and rottweiler.

After our late mastiff who was beautiful inside and out, we have a soft spot for big dogs with chunky paws and square snouts :lovedup:

I love big dogs aswell but I just don't have the time(or energy) to be able to commit to properly looking after a big dog

[Kizzy]

She was trying to do her you tubing into the camera bit the dog kept leaping up at her wanting to play... she spat on it...whilst disciplining it.

Total rubbish! .. you don't train anything through fear, that's not how the police or any responsible owner would train a dog! To encourage trust and respect reward and praise trains dogs.
You hit or spit at anything it's abuse plain and simple.

I'm sure you've seen some scrote batter his dog till it cowers at his side, but trust me that's not how you train a dog.

[Twosugars]

I love big dogs aswell but I just don't have the time(or energy) to be able to commit to properly looking after a big dog

I think they are easier to look after than some highly strung little thing :laugh:
Big dogs dont bark too much or get into scraps bc they have nothing to prove. And they tend to be very gentle and patient.

[Vicky.]

My favourite breed along with Border Collies

Labradors for me. Eventually I want to get one of theoe but really I need to be better first so I can walk it loads..as fairly sure Gavin will say he will do it but then not want to if its raining, etc. Kids will say and do the same. So I cannot really get one until I know for sure it will get enough excercise.
We always had a labrador growing up, and andrex puppies are just bloody beautiful! :love: Prefer a golden one, but brown would do too I guess.

They are great with kids, or ours always have been. So docile but..playful at the same time.

[Twosugars]

Total rubbish! .. you don't train anything through fear, that's not how the police or any responsible owner would train a dog! To encourage trust and respect reward and praise trains dogs.
You hit or spit at anything it's abuse plain and simple.

I'm sure you've seen some scrote batter his dog till it cowers at his side, but trust me that's not how you train a dog.

Exactly right.
Dogs are intelligent and sensitive.
Beating a creature that is at your mercy is a despicable thing.

[Niamh.]

I think they are easier to look after than some highly strung little thing [emoji23]

Big dogs dont bark too much or get into scraps bc they have nothing to prove. And they tend to be very gentle and patient.Big dogs need much longer walks is what I mean

[Twosugars]

Big dogs need much longer walks is what I mean

Not all Niamh, only the energetic and working breeds like collies or german shepherds lol sorry:hehe:
Mastiffs for example only need moderate exercise

[Twosugars]

I suppose it's best to research a breed but I'd not be put off by size alone. Unless space at home is an issue

[Liam-]

I grew up with Rotties and they didn’t need much exercise at all, beautiful dogs they are

[Vicky.]

Our labs were proper lazy ****s, just lay around all day, but once their leader was on, they wanted to go for miles!

[Twosugars]

I grew up with Rotties and they didn’t need much exercise at all, beautiful dogs they are

We want a couple of rotties when we're ready, they are fantastic

[Twosugars]

Atm we look after our neighbours' cockerpoo and must say although too small for our liking he is a lovely little thing. A bit too inquisitive and barky but so affectionate, wants cuddles all the time.

[Niamh.]

Not all Niamh, only the energetic and working breeds like collies or german shepherds lol sorry:hehe:

Mastiffs for example only need moderate exerciseHa typical, the ones I want. But yeah we have a little dog at the moment and shes a little **** tbf [emoji23] but my son takes her for a run across the beach every day and that's all she needs. We had a collie cross before her, such a gorgeous dog and so good with people, I still haven't got over him dying [emoji26]

[Twosugars]

Ha typical, the ones I want. But yeah we have a little dog at the moment and shes a little **** tbf [emoji23] but my son takes her for a run across the beach every day and that's all she needs. We had a collie cross before her, such a gorgeous dog and so good with people, I still haven't got over him dying [emoji26]

They say greyhounds are happy sleeping all day which is surprising for a racing dog. But they are happy with fairly little exercise and are meant to be very easy to look after

[Twosugars]

Our labs were proper lazy ****s, just lay around all day, but once their leader was on, they wanted to go for miles!

Aw labs, love them. Bet they were greedy :hee: what colours?

[Niamh.]

They say greyhounds are happy sleeping all day which is surprising for a racing dog. But they are happy with fairly little exercise and are meant to be very easy to look afterI'm not a fan of greyhounds really

[AnnieK]

We want a couple of rotties when we're ready, they are fantastic

I had a Rottweiler Doberman cross called Dennis.....he was the best dog ever. Also had a Rhodesian Ridgeback....love big digs too. :love:

[Niamh.]

I had a Rottweiler Doberman cross called Dennis.....he was the best dog ever. Also had a Rhodesian Ridgeback....love big digs too. :love:Oh there's a Rhodesian Ridgeback living up the road from me, gorgeous dog

[Liam-]

We want a couple of rotties when we're ready, they are fantastic

Lovely dogs, they’ve got a bad reputation cause they’re big and look ‘mean’, but they’re the most loving, cwtchy dogs I’ve ever had, our one who passed a few years ago used to let the kids in the family lay all over her, she was a gentle giant

[AnnieK]

Oh there's a Rhodesian Ridgeback living up the road from me, gorgeous dog

He was a great dog....very dopey and just wanted constant strokes. Again with the breed issues though, bigger dogs used to go for him all the time, because of the ridge on his back, other dogs think their hackles are up and so get aggressive.

[Vicky.]

Aw labs, love them. Bet they were greedy :hee: what colours?
Always golden ones. We only had one at a time. Had a mongrel..think it was jack russel crosssed with something (was all black) at the same time..she was bloody amazing. So full of life until she got bladder cancer. Oddly, my mum and dad only got her because they went to see what dogs there were and got told that if she was not taken that day, She was going to be put down as she had been there too long (wonder if they are still allowed to do that..) so they took her straight away. Was called Lucky. Lab at that point was Cindy. We had a Sandy too later.

Could talk forever about dogs we had as kids like..

Yes, both labs were greedy as ****, but the mongrel was a faster eater and used to try and nick Cindys food after she had hers :D

[Amy Jade]

..it would be nice if she did some volunteer work in a dog rescue...work with some of the dogs who have been abused by humans...

I wouldn't want her near any vulnerable animals personally.

[Amy Jade]

Lovely dogs, they’ve got a bad reputation cause they’re big and look ‘mean’, but they’re the most loving, cwtchy dogs I’ve ever had, our one who passed a few years ago used to let the kids in the family lay all over her, she was a gentle giant

My aunts dogs are the same, both so laid back and love playing with kids. I'd trust them over my dog to be honest and shes a tiny little thing

[Twosugars]

Lovely dogs, they’ve got a bad reputation cause they’re big and look ‘mean’, but they’re the most loving, cwtchy dogs I’ve ever had, our one who passed a few years ago used to let the kids in the family lay all over her, she was a gentle giant

Exactly.
We were shocked when some people would cross the road not to walk past our mastiff :fist:
You couldn't ask for a gentler dog and yet people were intimidated by his size and face :shrug:

[Twosugars]

I had a Rottweiler Doberman cross called Dennis.....he was the best dog ever. Also had a Rhodesian Ridgeback....love big digs too. :love:

Wow, they both sound great :love:

Always golden ones. We only had one at a time. Had a mongrel..think it was jack russel crosssed with something (was all black) at the same time..she was bloody amazing. So full of life until she got bladder cancer. Oddly, my mum and dad only got her because they went to see what dogs there were and got told that if she was not taken that day, She was going to be put down as she had been there too long (wonder if they are still allowed to do that..) so they took her straight away. Was called Lucky. Lab at that point was Cindy. We had a Sandy too later.

Could talk forever about dogs we had as kids like..

Yes, both labs were greedy as ****, but the mongrel was a faster eater and used to try and nick Cindys food after she had hers :D

:hee:
Yeah I could talk dogs forever too
Maybe we should have a sticky thread about dogs :lovedup:

[DouglasS]

..it would be nice if she did some volunteer work in a dog rescue...work with some of the dogs who have been abused by humans...

What next, let’s get paedos to volunteer to help abused children? What a terrible idea. She shouldn’t be anywhere near dogs/training them

[Kizzy]

Maybe it's how she was trained?...

[Ammi]

I wouldn't want her near any vulnerable animals personally.

...yeah I can understand your feelings completely, Amy...she’s not someone who should have care for any animal atm...I don’t know if that could ever change if she were to experience the damage her own behaviour can cause by working with damaged dogs...?...whether it could be something that could turn around her mindset completely...while obviously working alongside staff and being supervised etc...

[Kizzy]

I have a black lab called duke, he is amazing, everyone thinks their dog is the best dog ever but he literally is :love:
He's a member of the family, which is why this seems so alien to me that she would attack her dog like that :(

[Ammi]

...I do recall Duke, he is the most gorgeous thing...

[Toy Soldier]

...yeah I can understand your feelings completely, Amy...she’s not someone who should have care for any animal atm...I don’t know if that could ever change if she were to experience the damage her own behaviour can cause by working with damaged dogs...?...whether it could be something that could turn around her mindset completely...while obviously working alongside staff and being supervised etc...

I think the issue is that from that video, I don't believe for a second that her behaviour is down to believing that's an acceptable way to treat or train a dog. The way she glares at it, the agitated way she grabs it and shouts at it... That's an anger control problem. That's what she urgently needs to address, not specifically her attitude towards animals. I *strongly* suspect she would be similarly aggressive with humans if she thought she could get away with it.

[Denver]

Lovely dogs, they’ve got a bad reputation cause they’re big and look ‘mean’, but they’re the most loving, cwtchy dogs I’ve ever had, our one who passed a few years ago used to let the kids in the family lay all over her, she was a gentle giant

We had a rottie about ten years ago but we got him when he was fairly old and only had him a year before he sadly died.

He wouldnt harm a fly he was so loving and caring and was grateful for the company after getting nothing from his previous owners, I wish we could have had more years with him

[Kizzy]

I think the issue is that from that video, I don't believe for a second that her behaviour is down to believing that's an acceptable way to treat or train a dog. The way she glares at it, the agitated way she grabs it and shouts at it... That's an anger control problem. That's what she urgently needs to address, not specifically her attitude towards animals. I *strongly* suspect she would be similarly aggressive with humans if she thought she could get away with it.

I agree, that was my first thought that I wouldn't leave an infant in her care. That may seem extreme but her reactions were very telling in that vid, yes he's a dog but she had zero patience, and her first instinct was to lash out.

This is how dangerous dogs are created... this is how dangerous people are created.

[Liam-]

We had a rottie about ten years ago but we got him when he was fairly old and only had him a year before he sadly died.

He wouldnt harm a fly he was so loving and caring and was grateful for the company after getting nothing from his previous owners, I wish we could have had more years with him

Ahh, that’s a shame :(

We got our two from a couple who kept them outside in a fenced off area all year round as guard dogs, we had to give one of them away because as soon as they came in the house, the one of them got very territorial and wouldn’t let the other one come into the living room, we kept the territorial one and trained her and she turned into an absolute sweetheart, she was with us for about 10 years I think and I’m still not fully over losing her :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

I'm surprised the abused dog didn't lash out after that , did she really think this would be funny??? i've just seen the video :facepalm: