Meghan has made Prince Harry less popular, says Farage

[bots]

Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage has criticised members of the royal family, describing the late Queen Mother as an "overweight, chain-smoking gin drinker".

He also said the Duke of Sussex's popularity had "fallen off a cliff" since he met his wife, Meghan.

The former UKIP leader made the comments while attending a right-wing conference in Australia.

His spokesman denied Mr Farage called Prince Harry "the prince of wokeness".

But he confirmed Mr Farage had made the comments which were recorded during the Conservative Political Action Conference in Sydney on Saturday.

In the recording which was obtained by the Guardian, Mr Farage praised the Queen, hailing her as an "amazing, awe-inspiring woman".

But he said he hoped she would live a "very, very long time" to prevent the Prince of Wales becoming king.

"When it comes to her son, when it comes to Charlie Boy and climate change, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear," he said.

"Her mother, Her Royal Highness the Queen's mother was a slightly overweight, chain-smoking gin drinker who lived to 101 years old.

"All I can say is Charlie Boy is now in his 70s... may the Queen live a very, very long time."

He also discussed Prince Harry and Meghan's relationship, claiming the "young, brave, boisterous, all-male" prince's popularity had plummeted since they met.

"Here was Harry, here he was this young, brave, boisterous, all-male, getting into trouble, turning up at stag parties inappropriately dressed, drinking too much and causing all sorts of mayhem," he said.

"And then - a brave British officer who did his bit in Afghanistan - he was the most popular royal of a younger generation that we've seen for 100 years.

"And then he met Meghan Markle, and it's fallen off a cliff."

He went on to discuss Prince Harry's remarks last month that he and Meghan plan to have no more than two children to help fight against climate change.

Mr Farage said the move was "irrelevant" because the "population of the globe is exploding" in areas including China and India.

His spokesman added that Mr Farage's comments were not delivered as part of a speech.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49317656

[Twosugars]

What an arse

[RileyH]

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[Cherie]

His spokesman denied Mr Farage called Prince Harry "the prince of wokeness".


:laugh:


Poor old Charlie and the Queen Mum got a kicking as well

[Liam-]

Odious little man

[Niamh.]

"all-male" mmmm

[MB.]

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An eternal mood

[Beso]

Haha..That's hilarious...I can hear him saying it just by reading his words...the man's a legend in my eyes and speaks the truth....


A right wing conference...lol....

[Scarlett.]

A right wing conference...lol....

Conservative
noun
noun: conservative; plural noun: conservatives; noun: Conservative; plural noun: Conservatives

1.
a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values.
"he remains a conservative in constitutional matters"
synonyms: right-winger, reactionary, rightist, diehard; More

So yeah, right wing conference :shrug:

[Oliver_W]

Leave the poor old dear Queen Mother alone!!

[Beso]

Conservative
noun
noun: conservative; plural noun: conservatives; noun: Conservative; plural noun: Conservatives

1.
a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values.
"he remains a conservative in constitutional matters"
synonyms: right-winger, reactionary, rightist, diehard; More

So yeah, right wing conference :shrug:




Sorry, I'm still not convinced.:hehe:

[joeysteele]

What an awful disrespectful individual he is.
Even no respect for the dead either.

He's a disgrace.

[Twosugars]

What an awful disrespectful individual he is.
Even no respect for the dead either.

He's a disgrace.

I know. Slagging the royal family abroad, what a guy :yuk:

[Mitchell]

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:joker:

[GoldHeart]

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Brilliant :joker: I remember this

[arista]

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[Twosugars]

So he's also a climate change denier if he has a problem with Charles's views on the climate

A nutter, certified

[Kizzy]

Well well the guy who keeps banging on about sovereignty. .. and he mocks the family of the sovereign? Tsk tsk.

[Beso]

Well well the guy who keeps banging on about sovereignty. .. and he mocks the family of the sovereign? Tsk tsk.

Sound to me like he's mocking the freeloaders..which from my.point of view is more than acceptable. ..he has obviously seen the Andrew story and knows public opinion can be swayed from day to day from a simple meme on the net....he's so in touch this man...a very very intelligent person...


I've been watching his speeches to the eu on youtube one after the other...he has them all in stitches with his humour these days...well, nearly all...lol..not the leaders.

[bots]

He said what he said because he knows it's a divisive issue in Australia. Remember the queen is their monarch too

[Kizzy]

He is an unelected clown, that's why he has everyone laughing.

[Twosugars]

He is an unelected clown, that's why he has everyone laughing.

Exactly that.
EU will wave him goodbye and he will be finished. Freeloader

[Beso]

He is an unelected clown, that's why he has everyone laughing.

Seems that place is full of unelected clowns...thank **** we are leaving.

[Beso]

Exactly that.
EU will wave him goodbye and he will be finished. Freeloader



Considering he only came back cause everyone else renegade on a promise.......


Mission accomplished.for nigel :joker:

[Mitchell]

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SkyNews Australia

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[Marsh.]

As if he has any business criticising the drinking and smoking habits of anyone else.

[Twosugars]

Considering he only came back cause everyone else renegade on a promise.......


Mission accomplished.for nigel :joker:

2% is not a mandate for hard brexit
Turkeys voting for Christmas

[Beso]

2% is not a mandate for hard brexit
Turkeys voting for Christmas

Gobble gobble.

[Beso]

As if he has any business criticising the drinking and smoking habits of anyone else.

Did he criticise! Or just describe?

[Twosugars]

At least any chance for him getting any honours is well buried. Every cloud... :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Did he criticise! Or just describe?

Yes, he criticised.

Yay you learned summat. :clap1:

[arista]

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[Withano]

Probably very true in his social circle

[Withano]

He’s overthinking the reasons though

[thesheriff443]

Farage has an opinion on the royals, tibb members have an opinion on farage.

It’s not me miss, it’s him.

You lot think you are swimming in pool filled with champagne when in reality we are all swimming in the same sewer.

[Kizzy]

You know what I'm thinking ? this has been specifically orchastrated to bring out the royalists, all the bad press with Andrew. . The bad feeling around the Meghan haters. So they get the national dork up to say something twatty about the royals to get the nationalists defending all of them regardless :/

[Ammi]

He said what he said because he knows it's a divisive issue in Australia. Remember the queen is their monarch too

...yeah he knows his audience and plays to it, as it were...he wouldn’t have said what he did to some interviewers because it wouldn’t have got the laughter it did...he’s an adapter, he’s a chameleon...and he’s for himself and his own gain...he’s not a politician man, he’s a Farage man through and through...it’s all about his own exposure and the dollars, baby...



...’all male...’...?...says much about Farage and very little about Harry....

[joeysteele]

...yeah he knows his audience and plays to it, as it were...he wouldn’t have said what he did to some interviewers because it wouldn’t have got the laughter it did...he’s an adapter, he’s a chameleon...and he’s for himself and his own gain...he’s not a politician man, he’s a Farage man through and through...it’s all about his own exposure and the dollars, baby...



...’all male...’...?...says much about Farage and very little about Harry....



Post of the thread for me is this one.

It saddens me these people who only look to seize on division, gather any support at all.
Just my view but it is to me unnecessary to do so.

[Beso]

What an awful disrespectful individual he is.
Even no respect for the dead either.

He's a disgrace.

He was complimenting the queen mother fgs

[Beso]

Yes, he criticised.

Yay you learned summat. :clap1:

He complimented the queen mother for living as long as she did dispite being an overweight gin drinker...hoping the queen who is none of those things lives longer than her to stop Charles becoming king.

[Twosugars]

He's an arsehole. Only an arsehole would want NHS privatised and claim there's no global warming

[Denver]

Prince Charles is apparently not happy with Harry and Meghan so wouldnt be surprised if Harry was Exiled.

[user104658]

Prince Charles is apparently not happy with Harry and Meghan so wouldnt be surprised if Harry was Exiled.

If Charlie puts down his gin long enough to sign a document?

[bots]

I really like both Meghan and Harry. They are my favourites out of all the royals. I do feel that Meghan gets way to much negative press. People should get a life

[Livia]

The Queen Mother a chain-smoking gin drinker. She died at 102 years old. There is hope for us all.

[Niamh.]

I really like both Meghan and Harry. They are my favourites out of all the royals. I do feel that Meghan gets way to much negative press. People should get a life

hear hear

[user104658]

Has anyone seen the Katie Hopkins video where she takes the piss out of Megan for getting a little tearful during a recent interview? ****ing well done Katie Hopkins, you managed to make me root for a member of the Royal Family. She is honestly the worst. Like... I dislike a lot of these "social commentators", but most of them are just stupid arseholes. I honestly am starting to believe that Hopkins is a straight up cruel sociopath.

Yes, Harry and Megan obviously have a level of physical wealth and comfort that most people will never come close to BUT they are also a young family who tbqfh it sounds like are genuinely suffering and not coping well with the pressure. No amount of money "cures" stress/depression/anxiety, and people sticking the boot in on a vulnerable new mother is repulsive.

In terms of the thread title... well... I can only hope to god that Harry doesn't give a flying **** that his wife has made him "less popular" with a bunch of beer swilling racists.

[Livia]

Has anyone seen the Katie Hopkins video where she takes the piss out of Megan for getting a little tearful during a recent interview? ****ing well done Katie Hopkins, you managed to make me root for a member of the Royal Family. She is honestly the worst. Like... I dislike a lot of these "social commentators", but most of them are just stupid arseholes. I honestly am starting to believe that Hopkins is a straight up cruel sociopath.

Yes, Harry and Megan obviously have a level of physical wealth and comfort that most people will never come close to BUT they are also a young family who tbqfh it sounds like are genuinely suffering and not coping well with the pressure. No amount of money "cures" stress/depression/anxiety, and people sticking the boot in on a vulnerable new mother is repulsive.

In terms of the thread title... well... I can only hope to god that Harry doesn't give a flying **** that his wife has made him "less popular" with a bunch of beer swilling racists.

Indeed. But it happens.

[Kazanne]

I really like both Meghan and Harry. They are my favourites out of all the royals. I do feel that Meghan gets way to much negative press. People should get a life

Totally agree with this, the press do seem to treat them differently than they do William and Kate,leave them alone.

[Denver]

TBF its clear Meghan has tried to tun is family against him, all those things she said to Kate and treated her staff like **** doesn't help, she should have said quite for a bit like Kate did after getting married and ease herself into the royal life

[Cherie]

I watched the African documentary and while it started off great and the charities they support are very worthy, Meghan made some a great speech, and Harry did that iconic walk that Diana did through the land mine areas, but I do think it was spoiled by Tom Bradbury pressing Harry on his mental health issues and their issues with the press, I think there was a time and a place and given the horrors they were highlighting it didn't really sit well, and Harry practically confirming the rift with William was really odd as well. I like both of them but I don't think they are handling themselves particularly well at the moment, when Kate married William she and her family were subjected to a lot of negative press around her 'commoner' status, she was photographed topless, they made fun of her Mum being an airhostess and running a party business, but Wills and Kate rode it out, Harry and Meghan seem to be doing a lot of complaining and whilst some of it isn't fair obviously some of the stuff that has been written is true, they do take private jets while telling others to fly less, they did spend a shedload of taxpayers money on remodelling Frogmore and then made a fuss when Archie was born, there is a rift between Wills and Harry, yes I don't think its right that Meghans letters to her Dad were revealed but then her Dad played his own part by entertaining the press for cash, they are being badly advised in my opinion, I think maybe they do need to dial back the duties and take a break maybe

[Niamh.]

TBF its clear Meghan has tried to tun is family against him, all those things she said to Kate and treated her staff like **** doesn't help, she should have said quite for a bit like Kate did after getting married and ease herself into the royal life

What did she say to Kate? And how do you know she treated her staff like ****?

[The Slim Reaper]

TBF its clear Meghan has tried to tun is family against him, all those things she said to Kate and treated her staff like **** doesn't help, she should have said quite for a bit like Kate did after getting married and ease herself into the royal life


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[Denver]

What did she say to Kate? And how do you know she treated her staff like ****?

It was widely reported that Meghan use to talk down to Kates staff which left Kate furious and saw her distance herself from Megan for a while, as i said Meghan has gone about it the wrong way she should have got comfortable then spoke her views on certain things within the Royal Family

[Niamh.]

It was widely reported that Meghan use to talk down to Kates staff which left Kate furious and saw her distance herself from Megan for a while, as i said Meghan has gone about it the wrong way she should have got comfortable then spoke her views on certain things within the Royal Family

rumours then?

[Denver]

rumours then?

I mean te world knows how much Kate loves her staff and how distance she got from Megan, tbh i think Megan has let the title get to her head more then her actually being a bad person.

She needs to take a step back and think of how things are and how to improve them but Harry is just as much to blame for bad publicity

[The Slim Reaper]

I mean te world knows how much Kate loves her staff and how distance she got from Megan, tbh i think Megan has let the title get to her head more then her actually being a bad person.

She needs to take a step back and think of how things are and how to improve them but Harry is just as much to blame for bad publicity


:laugh:

[Ammi]

...’..I never thought it would be easy but I thought it would be fair...and that’s the bit that’s hard to reconcile...’...was similar to something Meghan said...just heart breaking how she’s often painted and tainted in media strokes...

[user104658]

To be fair, I genuinely have no idea how anyone can reach their 30's expecting anything at all to be "fair". Things should be of course. But it's more of a pleasant surprise when they are.

[Livia]

I watched the African documentary and while it started off great and the charities they support are very worthy, Meghan made some a great speech, and Harry did that iconic walk that Diana did through the land mine areas, but I do think it was spoiled by Tom Bradbury pressing Harry on his mental health issues and their issues with the press, I think there was a time and a place and given the horrors they were highlighting it didn't really sit well, and Harry practically confirming the rift with William was really odd as well. I like both of them but I don't think they are handling themselves particularly well at the moment, when Kate married William she and her family were subjected to a lot of negative press around her 'commoner' status, she was photographed topless, they made fun of her Mum being an airhostess and running a party business, but Wills and Kate rode it out, Harry and Meghan seem to be doing a lot of complaining and whilst some of it isn't fair obviously some of the stuff that has been written is true, they do take private jets while telling others to fly less, they did spend a shedload of taxpayers money on remodelling Frogmore and then made a fuss when Archie was born, there is a rift between Wills and Harry, yes I don't think its right that Meghans letters to her Dad were revealed but then her Dad played his own part by entertaining the press for cash, they are being badly advised in my opinion, I think maybe they do need to dial back the duties and take a break maybe

Agree 100%.

[LukeB]

rumours then?

Yep just silly rumours because they are two women, you hear it all the time that two females don’t get on but really they do.

[Niamh.]

Yep just silly rumours because they are two women, you hear it all the time that two females don’t get on but really they do.

Yep, they had them pitted against eachother from day 1

[MTVN]

I watched the African documentary and while it started off great and the charities they support are very worthy, Meghan made some a great speech, and Harry did that iconic walk that Diana did through the land mine areas, but I do think it was spoiled by Tom Bradbury pressing Harry on his mental health issues and their issues with the press, I think there was a time and a place and given the horrors they were highlighting it didn't really sit well, and Harry practically confirming the rift with William was really odd as well. I like both of them but I don't think they are handling themselves particularly well at the moment, when Kate married William she and her family were subjected to a lot of negative press around her 'commoner' status, she was photographed topless, they made fun of her Mum being an airhostess and running a party business, but Wills and Kate rode it out, Harry and Meghan seem to be doing a lot of complaining and whilst some of it isn't fair obviously some of the stuff that has been written is true, they do take private jets while telling others to fly less, they did spend a shedload of taxpayers money on remodelling Frogmore and then made a fuss when Archie was born, there is a rift between Wills and Harry, yes I don't think its right that Meghans letters to her Dad were revealed but then her Dad played his own part by entertaining the press for cash, they are being badly advised in my opinion, I think maybe they do need to dial back the duties and take a break maybe

Agree. Waging war on the press is very ill advised imo particularly when they started it just after they'd received very positive media coverage around their trip to Africa which they were happy to utilise then. Decrying tabloid intrusion while also serving them up golddust with his comments about William was bad judgement as well. In the end it's a free press and you can't just expect it to be heaping praise on you all the time

[Denver]

Yep just silly rumours because they are two women, you hear it all the time that two females don’t get on but really they do.
Kate wouldnt even stand near her for months when seen in public

[Liam-]

Kate wouldnt even stand near her for months when seen in public

Maybe Kate is just racist?

[Denver]

Maybe Kate is just racist?

Or she sees how evil Meghan is, it's funny that the family only split after she became part of I, the brothers never fell out.

She wanted the money now she will get nothing if Harry is exiled

[Liam-]

Nah, Kate loves UKIP

[Liam-]

And if you’re intent on believing rumours, then the brothers’ rift definitely came from Will boning Kate’s pal behind her back and Haz rightfully took exception to it

[Denver]

The same Harry who saluted the Nazis? Or took drugs? Or also cheated in exes?

[Liam-]

‘Saluted to Nazis’

:joker::joker::joker:

[Denver]

Fact if the matter is he thought it was acceptable to dress as a nazi when he is member of the royal family in a country they tried to destroy

[Liam-]

Yep and he was rightfully bollocked for it, doesnt excuse the horrid treatment he and his wife are receiving though

[Marsh.]

TBF its clear Meghan has tried to tun is family against him, all those things she said to Kate and treated her staff like **** doesn't help, she should have said quite for a bit like Kate did after getting married and ease herself into the royal life

How do you not cringe when you type stuff like this?

[Marsh.]

The same Harry who saluted the Nazis? Or took drugs? Or also cheated in exes?

Wait, are we judging him for everything he's ever done in his life and he's not allowed to apologise and move on from decades later?

He's not the first bloke to have experimented with drugs as a teenager and will certainly not be the last.

[Twosugars]

Or she sees how evil Meghan is, it's funny that the family only split after she became part of I, the brothers never fell out.

She wanted the money now she will get nothing if Harry is exiled

Why would harry get exiled? :shrug:

They may decide to give up public duties and live quietly.

But they will never be penniless. He has money from diana's will plus the queen would provide him well.

[Twosugars]

Or she sees how evil Meghan is, it's funny that the family only split after she became part of I, the brothers never fell out.

She wanted the money now she will get nothing if Harry is exiled

Evil Meghan? :joker:

[Marsh.]

Or she sees how evil Meghan is, it's funny that the family only split after she became part of I, the brothers never fell out.


tbh i think Megan has let the title get to her head more then her actually being a bad person.

Which is it? Are you changing your mind every time a new article is published?

[Denver]

Yep and he was rightfully bollocked for it, doesnt excuse the horrid treatment he and his wife are receiving though

They recieve it because of how they react, lecturing everyone on how to save the environment then take 20 plane journeys in a month, things like that is why they get the hate where Mate is just a normal gal shopping in Sainsbury with everyone else

[Marsh.]

They recieve it because of how they react, lecturing everyone on how to save the environment then take 20 plane journeys in a month, things like that is why they get the hate where Mate is just a normal gal shopping in Sainsbury with everyone else

You'd judge them for not fulfilling their duties as part of the Royal family even if they didn't travel. Jumping on the bandwagon.

[Denver]

No ita a contradiction you cant condemn someone for doing something that you are also doing

[Marsh.]

No ita a contradiction you cant condemn someone for doing something that you are also doing

They're not condemning though.

[Liam-]

Lmao, they get the hate even when they don’t do anything, ‘is Meghans snack of choice destroying the planet?’ Was a personal favourite headline about avocados, Kate didn’t receive all of this hatred when she ducked away from royal duties, it’s all because of who Meghan is and where she came from and I won’t be convinced otherwise, good on Haz and Megz for defending themselves and speaking out about the abuse they’re receiving for being a happy interracial family.

[Denver]

Kate has had it much worse

[rusticgal]

I watched the African documentary and while it started off great and the charities they support are very worthy, Meghan made some a great speech, and Harry did that iconic walk that Diana did through the land mine areas, but I do think it was spoiled by Tom Bradbury pressing Harry on his mental health issues and their issues with the press, I think there was a time and a place and given the horrors they were highlighting it didn't really sit well, and Harry practically confirming the rift with William was really odd as well. I like both of them but I don't think they are handling themselves particularly well at the moment, when Kate married William she and her family were subjected to a lot of negative press around her 'commoner' status, she was photographed topless, they made fun of her Mum being an airhostess and running a party business, but Wills and Kate rode it out, Harry and Meghan seem to be doing a lot of complaining and whilst some of it isn't fair obviously some of the stuff that has been written is true, they do take private jets while telling others to fly less, they did spend a shedload of taxpayers money on remodelling Frogmore and then made a fuss when Archie was born, there is a rift between Wills and Harry, yes I don't think its right that Meghans letters to her Dad were revealed but then her Dad played his own part by entertaining the press for cash, they are being badly advised in my opinion, I think maybe they do need to dial back the duties and take a break maybe


Well said Cherie...I agree with everything you have said.

[Liam-]

Kate has had it much worse

Alright pal

[Glenn.]

Why does Adam sound like my tabloid believing Nan?

[Denver]

Alright pal

You clearly dont remember how the press tore her apart when she got married

[Marsh.]

You clearly dont remember how the press tore her apart when she got married

:facepalm:

[Beso]

I now think harry and megan are the bollocks, they have turned thier noses up at andrew and told the lot of them to **** off.

Just like Diana did..


I salute them both.

[Ammi]

...maybe ‘the rift’ is something that was always going to happen, just because of the entirely different people they are...as they’ve got older, it’s probably become more and more apparent, as these things do...I can’t think of many close Royal sibling connections/bonds and William and Harry are probably no exception to that...and their marriages to entirely different personality types as well, has just enhanced...?...but that doesn’t make any blame lay with Meghan as such, any more or less than it would lay with Kate...


...I think that Harry’s painful associations with the media and his mother’s life and death are really strong...and that probably has a huge impact on him when he sees the hostility toward Meghan from the press...and maybe he becomes a little over protective, I don’t know...but that’s understandable also, these awful things in our lives have different impacts on us as people...and he’s had to cope with stuff from the media from childhood that William never has...his parenthood was always questioned also...I can’t imagine the pain that has caused him through his life...all in all, the Royals have some pretty screwed aspects to their family, as can be said for any of us...And what I love about Harry and Meghan is that they represent the ‘any of us’ aspect in so many ways...sadly though, they have that extra pressure of the media which is immense and very damaging...

[bots]

if your mother had been killed as a result of press hounding, i think your perception of the press would change profoundly forever. If i'm honest, I think Harry's reaction to the press now is much more believable than William being all pals with them. I know I couldn't be pals with a group that had killed my mother, so for me, I'm with Harry all the way

[AnnieK]

William and Harry will have been treated differently as children. As the heir to the throne, William has been conditioned since birth to that role, Harry will always have played second fiddle. When their mum died, Harry was the younger and trying to process that grief and emotion in front of the nation must have been torture for him whereas William was slightly older and will have been conditioned more to have the stiff upper lip required of the monarchy. Both boys have not been allowed to grieve their mother in a normal way and for Harry that has manifested in aa real dislike of the media and the urge to protect his family from them. Meghan has been thrust into the pomp and circumstance of the Royals....it was never going to be easy. The fact that she was a "star" in her own right before has probably made that harder for her. She will have been used to "yes men" around her but now she has tradition etc to deal with, along with the issues that face any new mum and wife.

The interest in them is becoming almost unhealthy and I do think they need time as a family away from the glare of the spotlight,just for them.

[user104658]

William and Harry will have been treated differently as children. As the heir to the throne, William has been conditioned since birth to that role, Harry will always have played second fiddle. When their mum died, Harry was the younger and trying to process that grief and emotion in front of the nation must have been torture for him whereas William was slightly older and will have been conditioned more to have the stiff upper lip required of the monarchy. Both boys have not been allowed to grieve their mother in a normal way and for Harry that has manifested in aa real dislike of the media and the urge to protect his family from them. Meghan has been thrust into the pomp and circumstance of the Royals....it was never going to be easy. The fact that she was a "star" in her own right before has probably made that harder for her. She will have been used to "yes men" around her but now she has tradition etc to deal with, along with the issues that face any new mum and wife.

The interest in them is becoming almost unhealthy and I do think they need time as a family away from the glare of the spotlight,just for them.

Indeed... William has been groomed to be king (and Kate to be his queen), we'll never get to glimpse their innermost thoughts.

[Ammi]

if your mother had been killed as a result of press hounding, i think your perception of the press would change profoundly forever. If i'm honest, I think Harry's reaction to the press now is much more believable than William being all pals with them. I know I couldn't be pals with a group that had killed my mother, so for me, I'm with Harry all the way

...I think we just all process stuff differently...and there’s always been a thought process of William and Harry being closely bonded...that image of them both at Diana’s funeral and a ‘protection’ the nation has felt toward them...?...but they’ve always been entirely different in their characters and I don’t think the Royal family in general is a situation which is nurturing to close sibling bonds...as their differences have been more and more apparent, they’ve been compared...which is silly...and then that’s transferred to their wives...(..and as we know, females are often judged to harsher standards in society..:tongue:...)...

[Ammi]

William and Harry will have been treated differently as children. As the heir to the throne, William has been conditioned since birth to that role, Harry will always have played second fiddle. When their mum died, Harry was the younger and trying to process that grief and emotion in front of the nation must have been torture for him whereas William was slightly older and will have been conditioned more to have the stiff upper lip required of the monarchy. Both boys have not been allowed to grieve their mother in a normal way and for Harry that has manifested in aa real dislike of the media and the urge to protect his family from them. Meghan has been thrust into the pomp and circumstance of the Royals....it was never going to be easy. The fact that she was a "star" in her own right before has probably made that harder for her. She will have been used to "yes men" around her but now she has tradition etc to deal with, along with the issues that face any new mum and wife.

The interest in them is becoming almost unhealthy and I do think they need time as a family away from the glare of the spotlight,just for them.



..I think that the interest in them is a viscous circle, sadly...just as it was with Diana...?...it’s like history repeating itself, they’re reaching out to so many people and speaking of their issues and so the media are lapped into a frenzy as they enhance those issues to their fullest...?...I do think that ‘bullying’ isn’t too strong a word in how the media have been with Meghan at times...and of course, bullies always blame the victim...which is what is also happening...

[Cherie]

I think people have short memories, Kate had a torrid time in the media, anyone remember waity Katie, pretty sure they sued as well when she was photographed topless on holiday, they have learned how to manage the media, in all honesty I don't think there is that much media interest in Harry and Meghan, no where near the levels Diana was subjected to at any rate, and they seem happy enough to have some media presence like when Harry was lecturing us minions on not flying too much just before he jumped on a private plane, you can't have it both ways, just get out of it all if its affecting you that much.

[Cherie]

on a separate note did anyone see Archie in the African documentary, just so cute :flutter:

[user104658]

I think people have short memories, Kate had a torrid time in the media, anyone remember waity Katie, pretty sure they sued as well when she was photographed topless on holiday, they have learned how to manage the media, in all honesty I don't think there is that much media interest in Harry and Meghan, no where near the levels Diana was subjected to at any rate, and they seem happy enough to have some media presence like when Harry was lecturing us minions on not flying too much just before he jumped on a private plane, you can't have it both ways, just get out of it all if its affecting you that much.

Obviously far less attention than Diana but we should also not forget that for Diana (before it all unraveled, at least) the vast majority of the press attention was positive, whereas for Meghan it's HUGELY negative to the point of outright trolling, and also there's social media to contend with. In fact, I'd say it's worth pointing out that the media landscape - again, especially social media - has changed dramatically since even William and Kate's early days.

[Livia]

if your mother had been killed as a result of press hounding, i think your perception of the press would change profoundly forever. If i'm honest, I think Harry's reaction to the press now is much more believable than William being all pals with them. I know I couldn't be pals with a group that had killed my mother, so for me, I'm with Harry all the way

William's position is different though. I'm sure he hates the press just as much as Harry but as heir, he's not in a position to voice it. I have warmed to Meghan a bit, but she's not my favourite royal... however I do understand Harry's reaction to her treatment by the press... and not just the press, social media and morons like Farage... If only people would stop buying the rags that print outrageous stuff. I'm a royalist, I have no interest in reading about them in the papers mainly because you never know if it's made up entirely, or the truth, heavily embroidered.

[Livia]

on a separate note did anyone see Archie in the African documentary, just so cute :flutter:

He is gorgeous. Officially the second most beautiful baby in the country...…..

[Marsh.]

He is gorgeous. Officially the second most beautiful baby in the country...…..

Ooh, snap. :hehe:

[Cherie]

Obviously far less attention than Diana but we should also not forget that for Diana (before it all unraveled, at least) the vast majority of the press attention was positive, whereas for Meghan it's HUGELY negative to the point of outright trolling, and also there's social media to contend with. In fact, I'd say it's worth pointing out that the media landscape - again, especially social media - has changed dramatically since even William and Kate's early days.

Is it? I don't really follow it very much, I always got the impression it was very positive around the engagement and wedding, it soured a bit after that for sure, as for social media, nothing you can do about that, the genie is out of the bottle

[Cherie]

He is gorgeous. Officially the second most beautiful baby in the country...…..

naturally!

[Cherie]

Ooh, snap. :hehe:

Marsh wishing he was Livias baby daddy

[Kizzy]

Pffft .. farage misses the days of the nazi uniform and the binge drinking. Harry has grown up and matured! Unlike the permanently regressed yuppies like farage and his ilk.

[user104658]

Pffft .. farage misses the days of the nazi uniform and the binge drinking. Harry has grown up and matured! Unlike the permanently regressed yuppies like farage and his ilk.

I do suspect that a lot of the flak Harry and Meghan get is because, due to Harry's misguided antics when he was young, a certain group believed that he was "One Of Them!"... only for him to grow up and prove them wrong. Some people will not be pleased at all about that.