Uni bans burgers

[Beso]

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/goldsmiths-university-beef-ban-burgers-climate-change-emergency-a9054461.html


World's gone mad.

[Morgan.]

Well, they’ve banned beef. Not specifically burgers. The world hasn’t gone mad parm, but if we dont do something soon then there won’t even be a world to go mad.

[Cherie]

Beef farmers seem to be a soft target

I saw a picture of FB of all the airplanes over Europe at any given time, but its the cows that are killing us

[bots]

People are being led down the garden path on the impact that such things have, and the every little helps argument is complete tosh

Here we are leaving the EU likely without a trade deal with our nearest neighbours and setting up trade deals with countries on the other side of the world. That has a huge impact on the environment and not a single **** is being given.

[Cherie]

People are being led down the garden path on the impact that such things have, and the every little helps argument is complete tosh

Here we are leaving the EU likely without a trade deal with our nearest neighbours and setting up trade deals with countries on the other side of the world. That has a huge impact on the environment and not a single **** is being given.

:clap1: target the easy option

[arista]

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/goldsmiths-university-beef-ban-burgers-climate-change-emergency-a9054461.html


World's gone mad.


Yes their Green New Deal
a Political nove

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/iee1cRQ_Kb8RjwGlaoplqw/https/media.fyre.co/2UHSICWQSIo0pFdlxrka_Metro%201308.JPG

[Northern Monkey]

Pushing business into the hands of Maccy D’s

[Oliver_W]

Would be a prime opportunity for someone to open a burger van nearby :)

[Northern Monkey]

Would be a prime opportunity for someone to open a burger van nearby :)

They would make a fortune.

[user104658]

All of it - all of our efforts here, the farming industry, air travel - is for nowt if the developing nations where more than half of the global population lives doesn't sort out their industrial emissions. Which is very unlikely to happen in time. :shrug: just be thankful that the **** won't REALLY start to hit the fan within our lifetimes.

[Cherie]

Would be a prime opportunity for someone to open a burger van nearby :)

You just know that will happen

[Oliver_W]

They would make a fortune.

You just know that will happen

Good for 'em, I'd say! If the uni is gonna throw business their way for a meaningless gesture, power to them.

[Morgan.]

Good for 'em, I'd say! If the uni is gonna throw business their way for a meaningless gesture, power to them.

Reducing beef production isn’t a meaningless gesture?

[Oliver_W]

Reducing beef production isn’t a meaningless gesture?

Oh yeah, I forgot one university ending their beef sales will save the world.

Beef production in the West is meaningless compared to the pollution in third world/developing nations.

[Morgan.]

Oh yeah, I forgot one university ending their beef sales will save the world.

Beef production in the West is meaningless compared to the pollution in third world/developing nations.

Well with that mindset, we should continue using plastic straws because everyone else does, or continue buying single use plastic because other people do. And then screw our planet even more.

And just because beef production is less significant in comparison to pollution elsewhere, doesn’t mean that’s something that doesn’t have to change. Every little step towards saving the environment helps - doesn’t matter if it’s one person using refillable cups or a whole university cutting out beef.

[Beso]

Well with that mindset, we should continue using plastic straws because everyone else does, or continue buying single use plastic because other people do. And then screw our planet even more.

And just because beef production is less significant in comparison to pollution elsewhere, doesn’t mean that’s something that doesn’t have to change. Every little step towards saving the environment helps - doesn’t matter if it’s one person using refillable cups or a whole university cutting out beef.




They would have been better banning prawns...they have a larger carbon footprint than beef.

[bots]

Every little step towards saving the environment helps - doesn’t matter if it’s one person using refillable cups or a whole university cutting out beef.


That's just completely incorrect, and it's brainwashing

Saving the environment will only come from getting countries to cut back on their industrial emissions. Nothing else will make a difference. Nothing else will save the planet

Personally, i think it will be self regulating. As the planet has more areas that become uninhabitable through climate change, the population will be killed off and therefore pollute less

[Morgan.]

That's just completely incorrect, and it's brainwashing

Saving the environment will only come from getting countries to cut back on their industrial emissions. Nothing else will make a difference. Nothing else will save the planet

It’s not gonna ‘save’ the planet as such, no, but it’s definitley going to prolong the window of time we have before it’s too late to save anything.

[Alf]

Good, more for me.

[Morgan.]

That's just completely incorrect, and it's brainwashing

Saving the environment will only come from getting countries to cut back on their industrial emissions. Nothing else will make a difference. Nothing else will save the planet

Personally, i think it will be self regulating. As the planet has more areas that become uninhabitable through climate change, the population will be killed off and therefore pollute less

Except the places which will become uninhabitable first are the ones wiphich cause the least pollution as it is, so really you’re just suggesting killing off half the planet for no reason. Good logic there.

[bots]

It’s not gonna ‘save’ the planet as such, no, but it’s definitley going to prolong the window of time we have before it’s too late to save anything.

No it's not, and people should stop kidding themselves that it will. It's misinformation

[Morgan.]

No it's not, and people should stop kidding themselves that it will. It's misinformation

Carry on dropping litter, using single use plastics and recycling incorrectly then. See how far that gets you.

f.y.i it’ll get the planet uninhabitable quicker than you can imagine

[Beso]

Except the places which will become uninhabitable first are the ones wiphich cause the least pollution as it is, so really you’re just suggesting killing off half the planet for no reason. Good logic there.

Oh...this sounds interesting....which places are you talking about?

[bots]

Carry on dropping litter, using single use plastics and recycling incorrectly then. See how far that gets you.

f.y.i it’ll get the planet uninhabitable quicker than you can imagine

you are completely missing the point. You not eating a beef burger means zero when 1.4 billion Chinese are scoffing their faces with them. The little bit of help you are doing for the planet means nothing and when you multiply everything up to the scale of industrial nations its an exponential jump again.

So many people have fallen for the rubbish spewed about the environment, its really shocking

[Morgan.]

you are completely missing the point. You not eating a beef burger means zero when 1.4 billion Chinese are scoffing their faces with them. The little bit of help you are doing for the planet means nothing and when you multiply everything up to the scale of industrial nations its an exponential jump again.

So many people have fallen for the rubbish spewed about the environment, its really shocking

Well I’m not the only one not eating a burger, am I? With 375 million vegetarians and 600,000 vegans there’s a lot of people not eating burgers. You’re making it sound as if there’s nothing people can do, but if everyone’s thinking there’s nothing that can be done, nothing will be done.

Nothing changes until people are ready to change themselves and the more people that realise that the better our environment will become.

[Twosugars]

Well I’m not the only one not eating a burger, am I? With 375 million vegetarians and 600,000 vegans there’s a lot of people not eating burgers. You’re making it sound as if there’s nothing people can do, but if everyone’s thinking there’s nothing that can be done, nothing will be done.

Nothing changes until people are ready to change themselves and the more people that realise that the better our environment will become.

:clap1:

[Cherie]

are we ready to stop buying fast fashion,and buying stuff we don't need yet?

[Liam-]

you are completely missing the point. You not eating a beef burger means zero when 1.4 billion Chinese are scoffing their faces with them. The little bit of help you are doing for the planet means nothing and when you multiply everything up to the scale of industrial nations its an exponential jump again.

So many people have fallen for the rubbish spewed about the environment, its really shocking

So people shouldn’t do their little bit to help, because other countries are worse polluters? Let’s just chuck oil in the sea and be done with it then

[Marsh.]

Beef farmers seem to be a soft target

I saw a picture of FB of all the airplanes over Europe at any given time, but its the cows that are killing us

Tbf, if people are inclined to want to help make a difference, they can only do so in ways they are able to. Unless a university uses planes, nothing they do to change as an organisation will have an effect on air traffic.

[Marsh.]

you are completely missing the point. You not eating a beef burger means zero when 1.4 billion Chinese are scoffing their faces with them. The little bit of help you are doing for the planet means nothing and when you multiply everything up to the scale of industrial nations its an exponential jump again.

So many people have fallen for the rubbish spewed about the environment, its really shocking

I think you've missed the point.

A "little bit" of help is surely better than nothing at all.

That "little bit" can potentially build and grow and make a change. The only thing you get from doing nothing... is nothing.

[Beso]

I still want to know what countries will be sent into oblivion by global warming..Morgan?

[Cherie]

Tbf, if people are inclined to want to help make a difference, they can only do so in ways they are able to. Unless a university uses planes, nothing they do to change as an organisation will have an effect on air traffic.

That still doesn't change the fact that beef farmers are a soft target, I know a bit about this as my brother is one and there are a lot of things going on that are actually bringing the industry to its knees, the way things are going it wont matter if there isn't a planet because food will be in short supply as farmers go out of business

[Marsh.]

That still doesn't change the fact that beef farmers are a soft target, I know a bit about this as my brother is one and there are a lot of things going on that are actually bringing the industry to its knees, the way things are going it wont matter if there isn't a planet because food will be in short supply as farmers go out of business

Well people aren't stopping eating. They stop eating one thing and start eating something else.

[Cherie]

Well people aren't stopping eating. They stop eating one thing and start eating something else.

not every farm can suddenly switch what it produces, and it what they do produce is worthless where is the money to switch coming from?

[Marsh.]

not every farm can suddenly switch what it produces, and it what they have is suddenly worthless where is the money to switch coming from?

I never said they get the alternatives from the same farmers. They probably would go out of business.

I was talking about your shortage of food claim.

[Cherie]

I never said they get the alternatives from the same farmers. They probably would go out of business.

I was talking about your shortage of food claim.

no farmers, no food, simple

[Elliot]

Well I’m not the only one not eating a burger, am I? With 375 million vegetarians and 600,000 vegans there’s a lot of people not eating burgers. You’re making it sound as if there’s nothing people can do, but if everyone’s thinking there’s nothing that can be done, nothing will be done.

Nothing changes until people are ready to change themselves and the more people that realise that the better our environment will become.

.

Some of the attitudes in this thread are the very things that’ll kill the planet

[Morgan.]

I still want to know what countries will be sent into oblivion by global warming..Morgan?

All of them if we don’t do anything.

Besides, why are you asking me, it was BOTS who said we should let those countries ‘fall into oblivion’ to reduce global warming

[Marsh.]

no farmers, no food, simple

Not all farmers are beef farmers.

The industry will change, as the world does and has to in order to survive.

[Mystic Mock]

Yeah this is silly from the University.

Sure maybe cut down how much Beef you have in stock, but an outright ban is just stupid and they're clearly only thinking of looking good to Vegans and people who think that it'll help the environment and aren't looking at it from the other perspective which like what Bitontheslide has already said on here, banning Beef isn't gonna solve environmental issues when it isn't even the biggest problem to begin with.

[Mystic Mock]

All of them if we don’t do anything.

Besides, why are you asking me, it was BOTS who said we should let those countries ‘fall into oblivion’ to reduce global warming

I'm not an expert on the subject, but do you really think that people stop eating Beef is really gonna make that much of a difference to the planet when peoples lifestyles are killing the planet in so many different and deadly ways?

I'm not meaning to be confrontational btw if it's coming across that way, it's just a genuine question.

[Denver]

Red meat is vile and not good for you

[Twosugars]

I still want to know what countries will be sent into oblivion by global warming..Morgan?

Read up about it.

Florida (and mar-a-lago) will all disappear, several Pacific islands, Bangladesh, the Netherlands and more. Most cost lines will change, several large cities will disappear like Shanghai etc, UK will lose some of its eastern coast areas from encroaching sea.
Theres much more but can't remember

[Twosugars]

I'm not an expert on the subject, but do you really think that people stop eating Beef is really gonna make that much of a difference to the planet when peoples lifestyles are killing the planet in so many different and deadly ways?

I'm not meaning to be confrontational btw if it's coming across that way, it's just a genuine question.

Cows farting vast quantities of methane, a greenhouse gas, is the issue

[Nicky91]

Read up about it.

Florida (and mar-a-lago) will all disappear, several Pacific islands, Bangladesh, the Netherlands and more. Most cost lines will change, several large cities will disappear like Shanghai etc, UK will lose some of its eastern coast areas from encroaching sea.
Theres much more but can't remember

D: oh well i had a fun life anyway but i wanted to live longer :bawling:

[Twosugars]

D: oh well i had a fun life anyway but i wanted to live longer :bawling:

Your country Nicky will have to redo the flood defences otherwise it will be bad. I'm sure they are on it. It's the poor countries that will suffer the most as always
And it will be gradual so theres time

[Cherie]

Not all farmers are beef farmers.

The industry will change, as the world does and has to in order to survive.

I'm sure you saying that will be of great comfort to beef farmers

less farmer means less food produced so food prices will increase

OR

we will have to fly it in from far away places....oh wait!

[Twosugars]

I'm sure you saying that will be of great comfort to beef farmers

less farmer means less food produced so food prices will increase

OR

we will have to fly it in from far away places....oh wait!

Changes like that will be gradual. There will be time to diversify

Unlike sheep farmers who export 40% to the EU

[Nicky91]

Your country Nicky will have to redo the flood defences otherwise it will be bad. I'm sure they are on it. It's the poor countries that will suffer the most as always
And it will be gradual so theres time

we already had a horrible flooding, and since that disaster our flood defences have become a lot stronger

i'm having loads of respect for that one girl miss greta thunberg, our voice for climate change, and also that we should all work together to clean up the world and make the world still habitable for the generations to come

[Jessica.]

That's a great idea, red meat is really bad for us anyway. I hope more places do the same.

[UserSince2005]

Ill have double for them :)

[Jessica.]

Beef farmers seem to be a soft target



I saw a picture of FB of all the airplanes over Europe at any given time, but its the cows that are killing usThat's because the process of using animals for food damages the environment far more than transport does.

[Kizzy]

Very ethical can't fault it, haven't eaten beef for a long time.

[Marsh.]

I'm sure you saying that will be of great comfort to beef farmers

Good?

The world evolves, as do industries. Yes, it's sad for people whose businesses close or change, but such is life.

[Marsh.]

I'm not an expert on the subject, but do you really think that people stop eating Beef is really gonna make that much of a difference to the planet when peoples lifestyles are killing the planet in so many different and deadly ways?

I'm not meaning to be confrontational btw if it's coming across that way, it's just a genuine question.

That's suggesting they believe stopping eating beef is the sole action the world needs to make. They don't.

It's one building block in a wall of many building blocks. All one small part, but necessary, of the larger whole.

(-1000 points for whoever makes a 'wall' joke)

[MTVN]

That still doesn't change the fact that beef farmers are a soft target, I know a bit about this as my brother is one and there are a lot of things going on that are actually bringing the industry to its knees, the way things are going it wont matter if there isn't a planet because food will be in short supply as farmers go out of business

Exactly, there's an obvious cost to moves like this. The farming industry might not seem very important to people living in cities or in suburbia but it's critical to our nation's food supply and to rural communities in general.

I don't agree with dictating people's diets either and this rush to condemn anyone who dissents from the extreme eco doctrine

[Marsh.]

Exactly, there's an obvious cost to moves like this. The farming industry might not seem very important to people living in cities or in suburbia but it's critical to our nation's food supply and to rural communities in general.

It's a gradual change to improvement. No one's suggesting close down all the farms now overnight.

[Beso]

All of them if we don’t do anything.

Besides, why are you asking me, it was BOTS who said we should let those countries ‘fall into oblivion’ to reduce global warming

You said the countries with the lowest carbon footprint would be the first to die ..or words to that extent..I want to know what countries so I can research it.

[Marsh.]

You said the countries with the lowest carbon footprint would be the first to die ..or words to that extent..I want to know what countries so I can research it.

Then research countries with a low carbon footprint.

[MTVN]

It's a gradual change to improvement. No one's suggesting close down all the farms now overnight.

Well literally banning beef would do that to many if everyone followed this lead

If we want a gradual change to improvement then there's a lot you could do short of outright banning something. Eating more British beef would help for a start and reducing reliance on imported meat

[Beso]

That's a great idea, red meat is really bad for us anyway. I hope more places do the same.

Red meat is very good for us...where did you hear it wasn't?

[Cherie]

Well literally banning beef would do that to many if everyone followed this lead

If we want a gradual change to improvement then there's a lot you could do short of outright banning something. Eating more British beef would help for a start and reducing reliance on imported meat

yes buying British would do a lot more good, I would like to have a look in Goldsmiths kitchens and see where the produce they use in their restaurants are coming from

[bots]

All of them if we don’t do anything.

Besides, why are you asking me, it was BOTS who said we should let those countries ‘fall into oblivion’ to reduce global warming

that's not what I said at all, i didn't say we should do nothing I stated clearly that it needed to be based an all countries industrial output because thats what makes the biggest difference.

The countries that will suffer will be the ones that already experience severe climate variations as they will get worse ... and anyone close to sea level. It's not dictated by who is carbon neutral and who is not

[Beso]

You could walk into the kitchen of that uni and find 100 items with a larger carbon footprint than 1 beef burger...


This is just a veggie run student union type thing having to much of a say in the day to day running of the uni...





This

[Marsh.]

Well literally banning beef would do that to many if everyone followed this lead

If we want a gradual change to improvement then there's a lot you could do short of outright banning something. Eating more British beef would help for a start and reducing reliance on imported meat

One university not using beef is not going to make a drastic change. So, yes, it remains gradual.

[Marsh.]

Red meat is very good for us...where did you hear it wasn't?

They're bad for your heart. :nono:

[Beso]

Quick question....

Do we fart out more methane due to eating the burger?

Cause I'm not sure if I'm into double farting a cows fart

[Twosugars]

Quick question....

Do we fart out more methane due to eating the burger?

Cause I'm not sure if I'm into double farting a cows fart

Its bc they eat grass :facepalm:

[Beso]

Its bc they eat grass :facepalm:

There must he grass in a burger

[Beso]

They're bad for your heart. :nono:

Too much....not now and again...

[Marsh.]

Too much....not now and again...

They contribute to high cholesterol.

[Beso]

They contribute to high cholesterol.

Yeah burgers do, fried in half a tonne of grease....Red neat cooked proper don't if taken sensibly.

[Marsh.]

Yeah burgers do, fried in half a tonne of grease....Red neat cooked proper don't if taken sensibly.

Significantly increases risk of bowel cancer too. :smug:

[Beso]

Significantly increases risk of bowel cancer too. :smug:

Cancer is in your genes....you can eat as much red meat as you want and catch a totally unrelated cancer.

[Marsh.]

Cancer is in your genes....you can eat as much red meat as you want and catch a totally unrelated cancer.

Lifestyle can make a huge difference.

[Beso]

Lifestyle can make a huge difference.

But at the same time make no difference at all.:smug:

[Cherie]

Its bc they eat grass :facepalm:

the vegans cant be helping the planet either with all those pulses being consumed :sad:

[Marsh.]

Not Cherie accusing vegans of being potheads.

[Cherie]

Not Cherie accusing vegans of being potheads.

oh I forgot the word pulses :laugh:

[Beso]

the vegans cant be helping the planet either with all those pulses being consumed :sad:

The carbon footprint of grain and wheat is pretty big as well...

[Twosugars]

There must he grass in a burger

No, there isn't.
Did you have biology at school?

[Twosugars]

the vegans cant be helping the planet either with all those pulses being consumed :sad:

They say vegans fart more but I wouldn't know :hee:

[GoldHeart]

Would be a prime opportunity for someone to open a burger van nearby :)

That reminds me of when Jamie Oliver was tackling schools to serve healthy food and parents were shoving junk food through the fence to their kids :joker: .

[Jessica.]

Red meat is very good for us...where did you hear it wasn't?

Here's something nice to read on the toilet. :hee:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/whats-the-beef-with-red-meat

[Beso]

Here's something nice to read on the toilet. :hee:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/healthbeat/whats-the-beef-with-red-meat

Dying isn't bad for us.:shrug:...we go to a better place.

[Beso]

No, there isn't.
Did you have biology at school?

Yeth, are you taking the pith?

[Jessica.]

Dying isn't bad for us.:shrug:...we go to a better place.

Where do we go? Inside a coffin? Rotting in the ground? How is that better than being alive? I am sure there are places where you can test out lying down in a coffin, I don't think it sounds that great.

[Beso]

Where do we go? Inside a coffin? Rotting in the ground? How is that better than being alive? I am sure there are places where you can test out lying down in a coffin, I don't think it sounds that great.

We go to heaven, because we believe everything we are told.

[Jessica.]

We go to heaven, because we believe everything we are told.

So do you want to die or not???

[Beso]

So do you want to die or not???

Life's fine atm..
So no...but I will be happy when it happens..so...mmm...yum yum burger bum.

[MB.]

Dying isn't bad for us.:shrug:...we go to a better place.

Where do we go? Inside a coffin? Rotting in the ground? How is that better than being alive? I am sure there are places where you can test out lying down in a coffin, I don't think it sounds that great.

We go to heaven, because we believe everything we are told.

So do you want to die or not???

Somehow I had a feeling this thread wouldn't still be about burgers by page 4

[Twosugars]

Yeth, are you taking the pith?

So why you asking if cow food, grass, is stored as grass in its muscle tissue aka meat?

[Dogeatdog]

Somehow I had a feeling this thread wouldn't still be about burgers by page 4

:laugh:

[Beso]

So why you asking if cow food, grass, is stored as grass in its muscle tissue aka meat?

Cause I was howking away at my nose with a pencil at the time!


soz:shrug:






There must be traces though.

[Beso]

5 facts up there......mods.......



But all I get is attacking the non fact by Twosugars. .....again...



I have a book with facts which I am keeping tabs on....

[user104658]

I'm not going to stop eating red meat. I get all the arguments for stopping but I'm just being real here. I'm not going to. :joker:

[Marsh.]

Only just noticed Parm's signature.

Love it. :clap1:

[Twosugars]

Cause I was howking away at my nose with a pencil at the time!


soz:shrug:






There must be traces though.

It gets broken down during digestion. Useful nutrients are absorbed, the rest is shat out

[Beso]

Only just noticed Parm's signature.

Love it. :clap1:

Slightly off topic, but bravo for you.

[Beso]

It gets broken down during digestion. Useful nutrients are absorbed, the rest is shat out

Can I copy and paste that to describe your posts in the future ,seeing as I can't do memes on my phone?

[Twosugars]

Can I copy and paste that to describe your posts in the future ,seeing as I can't do memes on my phone?

Stick to the topic parmnion and quit baiting

[user104658]

Only just noticed Parm's signature.

Love it. :clap1:It's a top 5 choice for my new username :flutter:

[Marsh.]

Slightly off topic, but bravo for you.

:flutter: Thanks.

[Marsh.]

It's a top 5 choice for my new username :flutter:

:joker:

[Beso]

Stick to the topic parmnion and quit baiting

Oh lighten up fgs.