Berkshire :Policeman outnumbered and Murdered

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/ten-arrests-after-police-officer-killed-responding-to-burglary-in-berkshire-11786468

[A 13-year-old boy is among the
ten people who have been arrested
on suspicion of murder.]


This was late last night.

[Kazanne]

https://news.sky.com/story/ten-arrests-after-police-officer-killed-responding-to-burglary-in-berkshire-11786468

[A 13-year-old boy is among the
ten people who have been arrested
on suspicion of murder.]


This was late last night.

Terrible arista,what are we becoming ? :shrug:

[arista]

Terrible arista,what are we becoming ? :shrug:

Sadly Vile /Evil Gangs

[Oliver_W]

Animals.

[Cherie]

RIP the poor man he was hit and dragged under a vehicle I believe

I don't want to speculate as to who might be responsible but have an idea and hope I am proved wrong

[MTVN]

RIP the poor man he was hit and dragged under a vehicle I believe

I don't want to speculate as to who might be responsible but have an idea and hope I am proved wrong

How do you mean?

[Niamh.]

awful, and a 13 year old involved? that's horrendous

[Cherie]

How do you mean?

I will tell you once further information about the burglars has been released what I meant

[arista]

RIP the poor man he was hit and dragged under a vehicle I believe

I don't want to speculate as to who might be responsible but have an idea and hope I am proved wrong


Yes many news are saying that maybe what went down
Live Police Conference
on all media now


The Police Officer was 28 years old
just married


Because of the 10 arrested
Chief Constable John Campbell
he would not say much
but did confirm he was dragged
along the road.


One Press asked if it was more than one Car
that run him over.
The Chief Constable
could not answer.

[Denver]

My friend told me something on this but I'm not sure if it's even true what they told me

[Denver]

It brings back the discussion should officers be armed?

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/08/768x432/skynews-andrew-harper-murdered-policeman_4747197.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190816150949
This was the Officer Andrew Harper, a month ago
getting married.

He Was in his Police Car with another officer
but at the time of his death was on his own.

[arista]

My friend told me something on this but I'm not sure if it's even true what they told me


Post it with a Warning "saying may not be true"
and spoiler

[Kizzy]

Really shocking a group of children! :/ poor guy... crazy

[thesheriff443]

Really shocking a group of children! :/ poor guy... crazy

No kizzy, the age range is from 13 to 30

[Cherie]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/08/768x432/skynews-andrew-harper-murdered-policeman_4747197.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190816150949
This was the Officer Andrew Harper, a month ago
getting married.

He Was in his Police Car with another officer
but at the time of his death was on his own.

Heartbreaking

[Cherie]

No kizzy, the age range is from 13 to 30

Thanks Sheriff, was about to post this

[Oliver_W]

Maybe it's time to arm our officers...

[Alf]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/08/768x432/skynews-andrew-harper-murdered-policeman_4747197.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190816150949
This was the Officer Andrew Harper, a month ago
getting married.

He Was in his Police Car with another officer
but at the time of his death was on his own.Due to go on Honeymoon next week, I heard.

[thesheriff443]

Maybe it's time to arm our officers...

He would of still got run over, cops in America have guns because criminals have greater access to them, cops carrying guns don’t reduce crime.

[arista]

Due to go on Honeymoon next week, I heard.


Yes real sad

[rusticgal]

So tragic...not far from me but that’s irrelevant...such a waste of a young life..his poor wife and family celebrating a wedding 4 weeks ago and burying him 6 weeks later.

[Kazanne]

So tragic...not far from me but that’s irrelevant...such a waste of a young life..his poor wife and family celebrating a wedding 4 weeks ago and burying him 6 weeks later.

I heard on the news that several police vans were seen at a travellers site tonight,not sure if there is any connection but it was on our local news.

[Kizzy]

No kizzy, the age range is from 13 to 30

Ah right thought I read the eldest was 17.

[lime]

RIP the poor man he was hit and dragged under a vehicle I believe

I don't want to speculate as to who might be responsible but have an idea and hope I am proved wrong
Such a tragic event.I do personaly think this a crime due to the Nomadic...only because of the large groups of male's including the youngsters..This what they do in Ireland also..So sad That this accepted

[lime]

I heard on the news that several police vans were seen at a travellers site tonight,not sure if there is any connection but it was on our local news.

The moment I heard the age range ..I knew it was travellers..Sick and tired of them saying Its their culture.The original Travelers would be disguusted at modern day Travelers.I am not a Catholic but I have been to communion ..confirmations...and the nomadic are smoking in church and kicking my chair because my accent is different..As a South African /Irish woman I think the new version of Travellers are the most racist people I have ever crossed

[Ammi]

...It’s so heartbreaking to look at his wedding images with his beautiful bride..such a short time ago, everything in their lives was before them...and now her world and the world of his family has been sadly and sickeningly crushed in such a brutal way...:sad:...

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/9BiELTn1RExgjPkh2HbGxw/https/media.fyre.co/JGsziTKESKtxPUsZLB07_Mirror%201708.JPG

[Kazanne]

The moment I heard the age range ..I knew it was travellers..Sick and tired of them saying Its their culture.The original Travelers would be disguusted at modern day Travelers.I am not a Catholic but I have been to communion ..confirmations...and the nomadic are smoking in church and kicking my chair because my accent is different..As a South African /Irish woman I think the new version of Travellers are the most racist people I have ever crossed

It's terrible lime,it does seem they were arrested from a travelling site and awful that you have had to endure that.

[Cherie]

The moment I heard the age range ..I knew it was travellers..Sick and tired of them saying Its their culture.The original Travelers would be disguusted at modern day Travelers.I am not a Catholic but I have been to communion ..confirmations...and the nomadic are smoking in church and kicking my chair because my accent is different..As a South African /Irish woman I think the new version of Travellers are the most racist people I have ever crossed

I felt the same as soon as I heard the number involved and age range, that said nothing has been confirmed as yet, sorry to hear of your experience Lime

[Nicky91]

sad for this one policeman, even more sad he got killed right before his honeymoon :(


but i'm not a big fan of the police in general myself, i mean the whole crushing people to death while there are other ways to arrest someone, for example stun em with tasers

[thesheriff443]

Just to add to this, he was also hit by a police car attending the scene.

[Ammi]

A man has been charged with murdering 28-year-old PC Andrew Harper, who was killed while investigating a burglary.
The Thames Valley Police officer died on Thursday in Sulhamstead, Berkshire, after being dragged along the road by a vehicle.
PC Foster's wife, Lissie, paid tribute to the "kindest, loveliest, most selfless person you will ever meet".
Jed Foster, 20, of Reading, has been charged with his murder and the theft of a quad bike.
Mr Foster will appear at Reading Magistrates' Court on Tuesday morning.
Nine other people who were arrested at the same time as Mr Foster have been released on bail until 13 September.
PC Harper's wife Lissie, who he married four weeks ago, said he "genuinely cared for everyone".
"I want to be angry that your job took you away from us but I know you loved it and always wanted to keep everyone safe, especially me," she said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-49402226

[Denver]

The man charged has denied having anything to do with it

[Denver]

The boy who did it looks so young but the youth of today are film of evil

[Denver]

One thing I dont understand is why 9 where let out on bail? Surely that makes them a high risk for runaway especially being from the travelling community they will move them elsewhere

[Nicky91]

The boy who did it looks so young but the youth of today are film of evil

same as certain police officers, who also are evil

not every police officer of course

but my point is, some youth are evil, but not every youth is evil

[Cherie]

One thing I dont understand is why 9 where let out on bail? Surely that makes them a high risk for runaway especially being from the travelling community they will move them elsewhere

Maybe, just maybe they can't pin anything on them and they are innocent?

[thesheriff443]

It’s a 20 year old that has been charged not a 13 year old, as usual you you are not getting the full facts.

He was hanging on to a vehicle was throw off and then run over by apolice car!!!

You can only charge someone with murder if you prove they ran over the police n purpose.

[Ammi]

It’s a 20 year old that has been charged not a 13 year old, as usual you you are not getting the full facts.

He was hanging on to a vehicle was throw off and then run over by apolice car!!!

You can only charge someone with murder if you prove they ran over the police n purpose.

...yeah it does sound like it’s a complicated case, sheriff...and I guess that’s why the holding and questioning of so many people also...

[thesheriff443]

...yeah it does sound like it’s a complicated case, sheriff...and I guess that’s why the holding and questioning of so many people also...

Well nine have been released on bail after being questioned for the maximum amount of time allowed.

It could be that him getting hit by his own police forces police car could of delivered his fatal injuries but that don’t look good does it when you got a story to sell.

[bots]

well, the group were all guilty to some extent if they were involved, but one or more will have struck the fatal blow hence the priority.

Ask 10 people for accounts of what happened and they would all be different even if they were telling the truth. So sorting that lot out is going to be difficult.

[thesheriff443]

well, the group were all guilty to some extent if they were involved, but one or more will have struck the fatal blow hence the priority.

Ask 10 people for accounts of what happened and they would all be different even if they were telling the truth. So sorting that lot out is going to be difficult.

Only one person can drive a van at one time hence one person charged with murder and theft of a qaud bike

.

[Denver]

Only one person can drive a van at one time hence one person charged with murder and theft of a qaud bike

.

But everyone in the van can be done for joint enterprise especially if they didnt say anything which is clearly the case

[thesheriff443]

But everyone in the van can be done for joint enterprise especially if they didnt say anything which is clearly the case

Clearly there is not enough evidence to put anyone else in the van, these people were not caught at the scene.

[Denver]

Clearly there is not enough evidence to put anyone else in the van, these people were not caught at the scene.

Nobody was caught at the scene, but there was 10 people and one getaway vehicle so they were all obviously in the van and have chosen to keep quite like the scum they are.

Modern day travellers are the scummiest of the scum, my dad said they were never like this decades ago and they had more respect for people

[thesheriff443]

Nobody was caught at the scene, but there was 10 people and one getaway vehicle so they were all obviously in the van and have chosen to keep quite like the scum they are.

Modern day travellers are the scummiest of the scum, my dad said they were never like this decades ago and they had more respect for people

There was more than one vehicle involved plus the guy that is being charged is not from the traveler cumunity.

This crime can be stopped with current technology.

I think your view does more harm than good crime is committed by people from every way of life.

[Denver]

There was more than one vehicle involved plus the guy that is being charged is not from the traveler cumunity.

This crime can be stopped with current technology.

I think your view does more harm than good crime is committed by people from every way of life.

He is a traveller and you can tell that from Facebook and all the people who are saying he is innocent

[Cherie]

Nobody was caught at the scene, but there was 10 people and one getaway vehicle so they were all obviously in the van and have chosen to keep quite like the scum they are.

Modern day travellers are the scummiest of the scum, my dad said they were never like this decades ago and they had more respect for people

Imagine being able to say that about a whole community in 2019 without censure, if that was any other community would you be able to tar them all with the same brush? How many travellers do you actually know Adam?

[Denver]

Imagine being able to say that about a whole community in 2019 without censure, if that was any other community would you be able to tar them all with the same brush? How many travellers do you actually know Adam?

I actually live in an area where travellers think they rule the roost stealing public land to live on burglaries and constantly causing trouble when they go out on nights out

[bots]

Imagine being able to say that about a whole community in 2019 without censure, if that was any other community would you be able to tar them all with the same brush? How many travellers do you actually know Adam?

racism gets shouted out at every opportunity and then we get that ....

I had an ex that was part of the travelling community whose family decided to put down permanent roots. I could tell a few stories for sure. Suffice to say there were folks that were salt of the earth and others who were not. What a surprise

[Denver]

They think they have a right to take what isnt theirs

[Denver]

And the ones by me treat the horses like ****

[Cherie]

racism gets shouted out at every opportunity and then we get that ....

I had an ex that was part of the travelling community whose family decided to put down permanent roots. I could tell a few stories for sure. Suffice to say there were folks that were salt of the earth and others who were not. What a surprise

good and bad everywhere, we had some settled travellers as neighbours for a while as they were renting the house along the street, you couldnt have met a nicer family apart from the dad who was a pig :laugh:

[Cherie]

They think they have a right to take what isnt theirs

so they are all the same, then, can we apply that to all communities?

[Denver]

so they are all the same, then, can we apply that to all communities?

Well theft and burglaries are not a focus point on other communities, how do you think they make all their money?

[Cherie]

Well theft and burglaries are not a focus point on other communities, how do you think they make all their money?

for someone who is so vocal about racism this is actually mind blowing

[Denver]

for someone who is so vocal about racism this is actually mind blowing

It's the life style they have chosen, well especially the ones around me and cases like this dont so anything go disprove it.

And it not all travellers just one kind of travellers actually

[Denver]

Romany gypsies are the ones who are the nicest I'd say well in my experience

[bots]

I don't think it would surprise many to hear that there are plenty robbers and thieves outside the travelling community

[Denver]

I don't think it would surprise many to hear that there are plenty robbers and thieves outside the travelling community

Nobody said that only travellers steal though?

[bots]

Nobody said that only travellers steal though?

You specifically branded an entire group as criminals ... your words, suggest you go back and read what you have written. It's there in black and white

[Denver]

You specifically branded an entire group as criminals ... your words, suggest you go back and read what you have written. It's there in black and white

I said they are known for committing crime not that everyone is a criminal that is 2 different things and also you would struggle to find a traveller by me who doesnt commit crime, people have different experiences and form judgments upon that.

But the point of the thread is 10 people from the travelling community were involved in a burglary that led to an innocent police officer being murder and at least one person on her is trying to claim that it wasnt the travellers even though there is definite proof, whether it's the raid on the travelers site or looking at the boys Facebook to see in fact he is a traveller and certain people are making him out to be a victim including his parents who are acting like he is a bigger victim then the man murdered

[bots]

Nobody was caught at the scene, but there was 10 people and one getaway vehicle so they were all obviously in the van and have chosen to keep quite like the scum they are.

Modern day travellers are the scummiest of the scum, my dad said they were never like this decades ago and they had more respect for people

your words, do you understand the concept of hate speech?

[Denver]

your words, do you understand the concept of hate speech?

Which is my opinion on what I know and seen in person, you still have a lot of old school travellers out there so it's not an attack on every traveller

[Denver]

But if you want to go off an defend what they did then says more about you

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/08/768x432/skynews-policeman-killer-suspect-arrives-court_4750616.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190820102541

The 20 year old on his way to court.

[Cherie]

But if you want to go off an defend what they did then says more about you

He is not defending the 'alleged' culprit, he is defending a community whom you have trashed, and what makes it even more ironic is you would be the first to shout racism if the black community were stereotyped but you are happy to stereotype another community.

[Denver]

4 more people have been arrested on suspicion of murder and theft

[arista]

4 more people have been arrested on suspicion of murder and theft



https://news.sky.com/story/several-arrests-in-connection-with-death-of-pc-andrew-harper-11811907

Yes and some re arrested

[arista]

1174327778960977921


3 Youths Charged

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/08/768x432/skynews-policeman-killer-suspect-arrives-court_4750616.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190820102541

The 20 year old on his way to court.



Jed has be set free
released from Jail.

[Cherie]

Jed has be set free
released from Jail.

So they got the wrong guy

Let’s hope the 3 now arrested are responsible

[arista]

So they got the wrong guy

Let’s hope the 3 now arrested are responsible


Yes they made a error
but now have 3 charged

[Ammi]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/10/2048x1152/skynews-andrew-harper-coffin_4804386.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20191014133408


https://news.sky.com/story/pc-andrew-harper-hundreds-turn-out-for-exceptional-officers-funeral-11835609

[Cherie]

A brave young police officer was killed “in the line of duty” in “truly shocking circumstances” as he attempted to stop three teenagers from stealing a quad bike, a trial has heard.
Pc Andrew Harper was dragged for more than a mile of winding country road, his uniform gradually stripped from his body, after his ankles got caught in a tow rope attached to the thieves’ car.
Henry Long, 19, drove at speed along the lane in Berkshire on the evening of August 15 last year, in such a fashion that the stricken officer was “swung side to side like a pendulum in an effort to dislodge him”, the Old Bailey heard.
Pc Harper eventually became disentangled but died from his injuries in the road.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/pc-harper-killed-in-line-of-duty-as-he-tried-to-stop-thieves-jury-told/ar-BB15RTQu?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

so distressing, his poor wife

[Zizu]

A brave young police officer was killed “in the line of duty” in “truly shocking circumstances” as he attempted to stop three teenagers from stealing a quad bike, a trial has heard.

Pc Andrew Harper was dragged for more than a mile of winding country road, his uniform gradually stripped from his body, after his ankles got caught in a tow rope attached to the thieves’ car.

Henry Long, 19, drove at speed along the lane in Berkshire on the evening of August 15 last year, in such a fashion that the stricken officer was “swung side to side like a pendulum in an effort to dislodge him”, the Old Bailey heard.

Pc Harper eventually became disentangled but died from his injuries in the road.



https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/pc-harper-killed-in-line-of-duty-as-he-tried-to-stop-thieves-jury-told/ar-BB15RTQu?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds



so distressing, his poor wife



Can’t wait to see what kind of sentence the driver gets ..


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[Beso]

That's horrific.

[Crimson Dynamo]

our police are a credit to our great nation

[hijaxers]

Can’t wait to see what kind of sentence the driver gets ..


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It should be life end of !

[Zizu]

It should be life end of !



2 years ... out in less than 12 months after good behaviour


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[Moniqua]

oh well, what can you do? :) :dazzler:

[Cherie]

oh well, what can you do? :) :dazzler:

Not a lot a white boy posting as a black woman can do, no :sad:

[Oliver_W]

#ArmOurCops

[Moniqua]

Not a lot a white boy posting as a black woman can do, no :sad:

actually i'm a white boy with a black woman avatar and signature*

it's really not that difficult to decipher cherry? :conf:

boomers amirite xD :fist:

[Cherie]

actually i'm a white boy with a black woman avatar and signature*

it's really not that difficult to decipher cherry? :conf:

boomers amirite xD :fist:

Monica, it’s Cherie...

[Smithy]

#ArmOurCops

Why do you keep hash tagging things, we’re not on Twitter, and yeah arming cops works our so well in America doesn’t it :rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why do you keep hash tagging things, we’re not on Twitter, and yeah arming cops works our so well in America doesn’t it :rolleyes:

Do you have evidence it does not?

[Kizzy]

We have armed police. Do we really want to live in a country where the local Bobby is armed?...I dont.

I want to see a return to community policing. It works.

All these heavy handed tactics, cuts to community services and reduced neighbourhood policing has massively backfired. It was the wrong call.

[JerseyWins]

Tragic. Sooo young... him with his newly-wed wife, they looked beautiful together </3

[caprimint]

Gosh this is awful. So so so sad for his wife. If only he didn't take the call...

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/24/16/30010064-8455761-image-a-59_1593014333939.jpg
[Long, along with his passengers Jessie Cole (in red)
and Albert Bowers (in green), both 18,
have denied murder but admitted conspiring
to steal the £10,000 quad bike.
Pictured in September 2019.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8455761/Teen-accused-murder-Andrew-Harper-told-police-dont-f-arrest-trial-hears.html

[Beso]

#ArmOurCops

They are.

[Beso]

actually i'm a white boy with a black woman avatar and signature*

it's really not that difficult to decipher cherry? :conf:

boomers amirite xD :fist:

You should have had George instead....your words would have had more impact.

[caprimint]

Those boys are *****

[Oliver_W]

They are.

If he had a taser or some kind of incapacitating gas, he'd be alive...

[Beso]

If he had a taser or some kind of incapacitating gas, he'd be alive...

If that's what you believe..thats fine.

If he was armed, your common cheap skate criminal like this lot would be armed as well.


We dont want none of that thanks.:nono::nono:

[Cherie]

Verdict of manslaughter :bored:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53526636

[Ammi]

...heartbreaking for his wife/his family..:sad:...‘Immensely disappointed’ won’t even come close...one of the senior officers involved was on the radio earlier when I was coming home....(...sorry, I didn’t get his name...)...he said it was the most complex case he had ever known...

[arista]

Verdict of manslaughter :bored:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53526636


Yes the Jury were dodgy
One even said bye to the boys
the Judge got rid of her.

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/08/768x432/skynews-andrew-harper-murdered-policeman_4747197.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190816150949
This was the Officer Andrew Harper, a month ago
getting married.

He Was in his Police Car with another officer
but at the time of his death was on his own.



I feel so sorry to his Wife.

[Cherie]

Yes the Jury were dodgy
One even said bye to the boys
the Judge got rid of her.

They were also intimidated it seems?

[Oliver_W]

Verdict of manslaughter :bored:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53526636
How stupid. In what world is killing someone deliberately not murder?


actually i'm a white boy with a black woman avatar and signature*

it's really not that difficult to decipher cherry? :conf:

boomers amirite xD :fist:
Is that even a woman? Looks more like a drag queen?

[arista]

They were also intimidated it seems?





Yes it appears to be corruption

[rusticgal]

They were also intimidated it seems?


No surprise there....but justice wasn’t done.

[arista]

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[Kazanne]

I feel so sorry to his Wife.

Yes ,me too, no justice for her or him ,but what's new, the system is a joke :fist:

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/CB19/production/_113639915_dailymirror.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/11939/production/_113639917_dailyexpress.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/EE4C/production/_113640016_thetelegraph.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/1E4A/production/_113645770_sundaypeople.jpg

[Ammi]

PC Andrew Harper's widow has written to the prime minister to ask for a retrial after his killers were cleared of murder.

Lissie Harper had been married to PC Harper for just a month when he was killed trying to prevent the theft of a quad bike in Berkshire last August.

Henry Long, 19, Jessie Cole and Albert Bowers, both 18, were acquitted of murder by an Old Bailey jury on Friday.

Cole and Bowers were found guilty of manslaughter, while Long had previously admitted the same charge.

In an open letter posted to Facebook, Lissie Harper urged Boris Johnson to "have this miscarriage of justice overturned".

[thesheriff443]

Those uneducated teenagers set out to steal a qaud bike not murder a policeman.

So from the off it can’t be murder.

Take away the background of those involved and the fact it was a police officer and the need for a murder charge would not be so high.

The jury heard all the evidence and came to their decision.

If this trial gets rerun do to public opinion or pressure that means all the other trials should get reheard.

[Niamh.]

PC Andrew Harper's widow has written to the prime minister to ask for a retrial after his killers were cleared of murder.

Lissie Harper had been married to PC Harper for just a month when he was killed trying to prevent the theft of a quad bike in Berkshire last August.

Henry Long, 19, Jessie Cole and Albert Bowers, both 18, were acquitted of murder by an Old Bailey jury on Friday.

Cole and Bowers were found guilty of manslaughter, while Long had previously admitted the same charge.

In an open letter posted to Facebook, Lissie Harper urged Boris Johnson to "have this miscarriage of justice overturned".

That poor woman :(

[Ammi]

That poor woman :(

...yeah I know...and her husband being part of that justice system as well and dying while serving it..:sad:..

[Livia]

The police are terrified of the travelling community. That's the truth of it.

[UserSince2005]

16 years for 1
13 years for the other two.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46544144

I would prefer all three were just hung, but I guess this is a decent bit of justice.

[thesheriff443]

So 8 years for one and 6 and a half for a he other two.

[The Slim Reaper]

The police are terrified of the travelling community. That's the truth of it.

That's certainly a point of view, alright.

[AnnieK]

So 8 years for one and 6 and a half for a he other two.

They have to serve two thirds.....still a joke but better than half

[UserSince2005]

I was expecting them to serve a lot less given the manslaughter verdict

[rusticgal]

Those uneducated teenagers set out to steal a qaud bike not murder a policeman.

So from the off it can’t be murder.

Take away the background of those involved and the fact it was a police officer and the need for a murder charge would not be so high.

The jury heard all the evidence and came to their decision.

If this trial gets rerun do to public opinion or pressure that means all the other trials should get reheard.


They didnt set out to murder him....but it came down to whether they were aware he was being dragged along. They kept swerving from side to side knowing (I believe) that he was being dragged and tried to dislodge him. That makes it murder....but they obviously convinced the jury that they didnt realise it was the officer...hence Manslaughter..


This is such a tragedy...such a lovely looking young man...and his poor wife.

[The Slim Reaper]

They didnt set out to murder him....but it came down to whether they were aware he was being dragged along. They kept swerving from side to side knowing (I believe) that he was being dragged and tried to dislodge him. That makes it murder....but they obviously convinced the jury that they didnt realise it was the officer...hence Manslaughter..


This is such a tragedy...such a lovely looking young man...and his poor wife.

I haven't read all the details but if they were trying to dislodge him, wouldn't that prove that it wasn't murder?

[UserSince2005]

I haven't read all the details but if they were trying to dislodge him, wouldn't that prove that it wasn't murder?

Gross, no. They wanted to dislodge him, drive off and leave him for dead.

[thesheriff443]

They have to serve two thirds.....still a joke but better than half

The driver will serve 10 years.

[thesheriff443]

They didnt set out to murder him....but it came down to whether they were aware he was being dragged along. They kept swerving from side to side knowing (I believe) that he was being dragged and tried to dislodge him. That makes it murder....but they obviously convinced the jury that they didnt realise it was the officer...hence Manslaughter..


This is such a tragedy...such a lovely looking young man...and his poor wife.

See that’s the thing, the jury sat there an heard the evidence and visited the crime scene and came to their decision.

Tragically he lost his life trying to save some rich idiots toy.

[UserSince2005]

See that’s the thing, the jury sat there an heard the evidence and visited the crime scene and came to their decision.

Tragically he lost his life trying to save some rich idiots toy.

Yes lets blame the person who phoned the police the first place for reporting the crime.

[thesheriff443]

Yes lets blame the person who phoned the police the first place for reporting the crime.

They had seen them there in the day but made no attempt to move it.

It’s not blaming its saying someone lost there life over a piece of metal with wheels.

[Cherie]

I haven't read all the details but if they were trying to dislodge him, wouldn't that prove that it wasn't murder?

They said they didn't realise he was being dragged, I think you would know if something was being dragged behind your car?

[Swan]

They said they didn't realise he was being dragged, I think you would know if something was being dragged behind your car?

You would. I don't buy that excuse for one minute!

[Ammi]

The Attorney General has been asked to consider whether jail terms given to the three teenagers who killed PC Andrew Harper are unduly lenient.

Henry Long, 19, the driver of the car that dragged the 28-year-old officer to his death, was jailed for 16 years for manslaughter at the Old Bailey on Friday.

The other two occupants of the car, Jessie Cole and Albert Bowers, both 18, were each jailed for 13 years.

A spokesman for the Attorney General's Office said: "The Attorney General's thoughts are with the family and friends of PC Andrew Harper at this difficult time.

"I can confirm that we have received a request for the cases of Henry Long, Albert Bowers and Jessie Cole to be considered under the unduly lenient sentence scheme.


"The Law Officers have 28 days from sentencing to consider the case."


There were tears and gasps from some people in the public gallery on Friday when the teenagers were handed their sentences.

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[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

No

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[thesheriff443]

Can this country get any more brain less