Previous NASA worker calls out man on dating app who ‘joked’ she was receptionist...

[Ammi]

Just this week it was announced that more girls than boys studied science at A-level for the first time.

However, it appears gender prejudices are still rife in some quarters of dating apps, as one woman has discovered.

Dr Lauren McKeown, who previously worked at NASA, was asked by a potential suitor called Mikey on Hinge if she had been “the receptionist” at the California-based organisation.

The woman from Dublin shared a screenshot of their exchange after the pair matched, and captioned it “and this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I am single”, in a post on Twitter that has now gone viral.

Responding to the part of Lauren’s profile where she reveals “The dorkiest thing about me is...I worked at NASA”, the man wrote, “****** me that’s cool. Wait till I tell my parents.”

He then continued: “So what are you, like the receptionist?

“Jk you look reasonably smart.”

In a reply that has been praised by social media users, Lauren wrote back: “Smart enough to know at least that judging a woman's intelligence based on her appearance might not be the best way to initiate conversation.

“PS. my mother is a primary school receptionist and is the wisest, most inspirational, and kindest person I know.”

She added: “So much so in fact that my PHD thesis in planetary science is dedicated to her.”

Her post has been ‘liked’ more than 178,000 times, and received more than 17,000 shares and over 2,000 comments.

Many people were shocked that Mikey thought he had made a good attempt at “flirting”.

One person wrote: “God, how depressing. It’s 2019 and there are still men who feel threatened by intelligent women!”

Another commented: “I should think this is why HE'S single, actually!”

A third shared: “When I started working at a new NASA facility, someone assumed I needed directions and I was pointed in the direction of the gift shop...”

And a fourth added: “I am really sorry for all men kind. Every day I get embarrassed by these daft muppets.”

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/woman-nasa-dating-hinge-145930160.html

[Oliver_W]

... so was she a receptionist?

[Alf]

... so was she a receptionist?Probably!

[Alf]

"I am really sorry for all men kind, every day I get embarrassed by these daft muppets"

In the words of Arista "How nice"

[Twosugars]

... so was she a receptionist?

Probably!

"PHD thesis in planetary science"


Ammi, isn't sad when men feel so insecure and resentful they need to denigrate women to feel better about themselves

[Alf]

"PHD thesis in planetary science"


Ammi, isn't sad when men feel so insecure and resentful they need to denigrate women to feel better about themselvesWho's criticising women? Feminists maybe, but not women.

[Niamh.]

"PHD thesis in planetary science"


Ammi, isn't sad when men feel so insecure and resentful they need to denigrate women to feel better about themselves

:love:

[Niamh.]

... so was she a receptionist?

Probably!

Who's criticising women? Feminists maybe, but not women.

:facepalm:

[Oliver_W]

"PHD thesis in planetary science"

That's not her job title, it's her qualification. My cousin has a "Masters" in Sociology, but sells houses.

She never said she wasn't a receptionist, so she still could be.

[The Slim Reaper]

That's not her job title, it's her qualification. My cousin has a "Masters" in Sociology, but sells houses.

She never said she wasn't a receptionist, so she still could be.

Sociology is marginally more useful than 3 stars on a mcdonalds name badge. Let's not equate it with a PhD in planetary science.

[Oliver_W]

Sociology is marginally more useful than 3 stars on a mcdonalds name badge.
If someone has one they probably have the other :hehe:

[Oliver_W]

If someone has one they probably have the other :hehe:
Just kidding, but it's one of those degrees taken by people for the sake of going to university; unless the prospective student knows exactly what they want to do with it, it's a bit of a waste.

[Alf]

Maybe she worked in the canteen?

One thing we do know, she doesn't work there anymore.

[Oliver_W]

Maybe she worked in the canteen?

One thing we do know, she doesn't work there anymore.

Maybe she was a receptionist there while she was studying, and then she left for bigger and better things when she qualified :)

[Twosugars]

Just this week it was announced that more girls than boys studied science at A-level for the first time.



Remarkable

[Cherie]

He made a joke and it fell flat, not the cleverest thing to say, but for her to try to humiliate him wasn't particularly nice either, I don't understand the need to broadcast every thing on social media, maybe if she had actually had a conversation with him about how insulted she was, that would be they way to go :shrug:

[thesheriff443]

He made a joke and it fell flat, not the cleverest thing to say, but for her to try to humiliate him wasn't particularly nice either, I don't understand the need to broadcast every thing on social media, maybe if she had actually had a conversation with him about how insulted she was, that would be they way to go :shrug:

So true Cherie, plus she is on dating web site herself, studying the planets she got confused when she got to uranus.

[Alf]

Remarkable
I'd used the words Fishy and suspicious.

[Twosugars]

I'd used the words Fishy and suspicious.

You would

[Twosugars]

So true Cherie, plus she is on dating web site herself, studying the planets she got confused when she got to uranus.

So not funny

[thesheriff443]

So not funny

Like any one cares.

[Alf]

So not funnyAre you in the offline groups, talking about me behind my back?

[Twosugars]

Are you in the offline groups, talking about me behind my back?

Lol.
Yes and no
:shrug:

[Glenn.]

Men are scum

[thesheriff443]

Men are scum

Glenn yours is a bum hole not a vagina

[Twosugars]

Glenn yours is a bum hole not a vagina

That's funnier

[thesheriff443]

That's funnier

And still no one cares

[Twosugars]

And still no one cares

Good for you to have a perspective

[Alf]

Lol.
Yes and no
:shrug:I have seen screenshots. You can go tell your little group that, tell them there's a spy amongst you.

[The Slim Reaper]

And a thread about a woman, her career, and a dating profile being locked in 5...

[Alf]

And a thread about a woman, her career, and a dating profile being locked in 5...Best thing for a feminist thread.

[Oliver_W]

I have seen screenshots. You can go tell your little group that, tell them there's a spy amongst you.

Why do you care? Just let the Heathers get on with their Heathering:)

[Twosugars]

I have seen screenshots. You can go tell your little group that, tell them there's a spy amongst you.

:laugh: with me talking about you? :laugh2:

[Alf]

Why do you care? Just let the Heathers get on with their Heathering:)I don't care, I just want them to know they're being watched.

I find it quite flattering that a group of people I've never met have discussions about me, it makes me feel famous.

[Twosugars]

I don't care, I just want them to know they're being watched.

I find it quite flattering that a group of people I've never met have discussions about me, it makes me feel famous.

Oh the delusion:hee:

[Twosugars]

I have seen screenshots. You can go tell your little group that, tell them there's a spy amongst you.

I passed your message.

Imagine the reaction will be as follows: :conf::shrug::laugh::idc:

[The Slim Reaper]

Folks bitch about other folks, and the other folks bitch about the original folks. It's going to be that way forever, so maybe try having pm conversations about it, rather than discussing offline groups in a thread with a title that is nothing to do with offline groups? :shrug:

[Alf]

Folks bitch about other folks, and the other folks bitch about the original folks. It's going to be that way forever, so maybe try having pm conversations about it, rather than discussing offline groups in a thread with a title that is nothing to do with offline groups? :shrug:Nah. That's not how I roll.

[The Slim Reaper]

Nah. That's not how I roll.

We don't agree on a lot on the forum, but I'd say you were stand up guy and I don't have any issues with you, but let's not pretend it's more difficult to argue in threads rather than having some honest and frank conversations with each other?

[Alf]

We don't agree on a lot on the forum, but I'd say you were stand up guy and I don't have any issues with you, but let's not pretend it's more difficult argue in threads rather than having some honest and frank conversations with each other?Seeing as you asked nicely, I'll leave it, just for you.

[Twosugars]

Folks bitch about other folks, and the other folks bitch about the original folks. It's going to be that way forever, so maybe try having pm conversations about it, rather than discussing offline groups in a thread with a title that is nothing to do with offline groups? :shrug:

The funny thing is he is wrong thinking he's a topic of conversation there.

Mods should delete this off topic non topic.

Let's talk about confident women in science :hee:

[Alf]

The funny thing is he is wrong thinking he's a topic of conversation there.

Mods should delete this off topic non topic.

Let's talk about confident women in science :hee:They just make the Women's tests easier than the men's, it's a known fact.

[Twosugars]

They just make the Women's tests easier than the men's, it's a known fact.

Wow. Proof please?

[Cherie]

They just make the Women's tests easier than the men's, it's a known fact.

:umm2:

[Twosugars]

Sometimes they have questions on university challenge about women in science. There have been much more outstanding female scientists than we ever hear about.

[Alf]

Wow. Proof please?They need to fill quotas. They need Women to be seen at the very least equal with men. Merit no longer exists.

[Marsh.]

Stop talking sh*te.

[Alf]

:umm2:It's sad, but true. Don't shoot the messenger.

I personally think Woman are capable of outscoring men, and achieving on merit, but it doesn't stop the powers that be who need to make sure it happens.

[Twosugars]

They need to fill quotas. They need Women to be seen at the very least equal with men. Merit no longer exists.

Proof?

Marie Curie, Ada Lovelace, lise meitner, dorothy hodgkin and others must be spinning in their graves

[Twosugars]

It's sad, but true. Don't shoot the messenger.

I personally think Woman are capable of outscoring men, and achieving on merit, but it doesn't stop the powers that be who need to make sure it happens.

Is there no end to conspiracy theories you choose to believe in?
It's getting a bit embarrassing tbh

[Alf]

Is there no end to conspiracy theories you choose to believe in?
It's getting a bit embarrassing tbhKeep on topic Sunshine, it's against the rules to bait other members, I'd hate to see you take a holiday.

[Twosugars]

Keep on topic Sunshine, it's against the rules to bait other members, I'd hate to see you take a holiday.

It is on topic :)

Your suggestion that theres a widespread conspiracy involving women at universities and schools being given a different easier set of tests is a conspiracy theory
I asked a genuine question.

And dont lecture me on baiting, that's all you've done in this thread

[Alf]

It is on topic :)

Your suggestion that theres a widespread conspiracy involving women at universities and schools being given a different easier set of tests is a conspiracy theory
I asked a genuine question.

And dont lecture me on baiting, that's all you've done in this threadIsn't it interesting that every complaint about establishment and power is always a conspiracy theory. That's why the prisons are full of working class people.

[Twosugars]

Isn't it interesting that every complaint about establishment and power is always a conspiracy theory. That's why the prisons are full of working class people.

But in this case you're accusing the whole education system. Thousands of people would have to be involved. Its madness, Alfred, sheer madness.

[Alf]

But in this case you're accusing the whole education system. Thousands of people would have to be involved. Its madness, Alfred, sheer madness.It's not madness. Madness would be to just accept what people tell you without questioning it.

You're not accepting what I say and you're questioning me on it, but you're just prepered to accept what the authorities tell you. They've been known to lie and be corrupt on many occasions.

[Cherie]

so you are seriously suggesting that in a GCSE Physics exam, girls get a different paper to boys? how would that even work given they publish the exam papers online for the following years cohort of students to revise

[Alf]

so you are seriously suggesting that in a GCSE Physics exam, girls get a different paper to boys? how would that even work given they publish the exam papers online for the following years cohort of students to reviseI don't know all their secrets, but they have their ways to get around things.

This started as me replying to TwoSugars getting excited and proud at a female doing well in this field, had that have been a man, Twosugars wouldn't have even posted, because he expects it off men to do well in this field. Why does he seem delighted that a female succeeded? Because it's not the norm. But suddenly it's becoming the norm. Most work forces in the public eye are pushing for equal representation of men and women, and they'll do what they have to do to achieve it.

[sleleen]

I don't know all their secrets, but they have their ways to get around things.

This started as me replying to TwoSugars getting excited and proud at a female doing well in this field, had that have been a man, Twosugars wouldn't have even posted, because he expects it off men to do well in this field. Why does he seem delighted that a female succeeded? Because it's not the norm. But suddenly it's becoming the norm. Most work forces in the public eye are pushing for equal representation of men and women, and they'll do what they have to do to achieve it.

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[Alf]

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/dancing-on-ice-gemma-collins-boring-1548018428.gifI'm not even gonna report you.

[RileyH]

i wanna be a receptionist

[Twosugars]

I don't know all their secrets, but they have their ways to get around things.

This started as me replying to TwoSugars getting excited and proud at a female doing well in this field, had that have been a man, Twosugars wouldn't have even posted, because he expects it off men to do well in this field. Why does he seem delighted that a female succeeded? Because it's not the norm. But suddenly it's becoming the norm. Most work forces in the public eye are pushing for equal representation of men and women, and they'll do what they have to do to achieve it.

It wasnt the norm in the past bc of societal pressure, gender stereotypes, various obstacles and discrimination
That's why I'm pleased at signs it is changing. Girls feel confident enough to go for science bc they know they dont have to worry about those things and will be judged on merit not their sex
I think you are confusing it with the drive to have fair representation in decision making, the hierarchy of institutions. A fair chance of advancement. Ending the practice where between two equally talented people it has to be a man who gets put in charge etc

[Twosugars]

i wanna be a receptionist

And you will succeed :thumbs:

[Alf]

It will be interesting to know why she's a previous employee of NASA? Maybe it would give my theory more weight.

[AnnieK]

I don't know all their secrets, but they have their ways to get around things.

This started as me replying to TwoSugars getting excited and proud at a female doing well in this field, had that have been a man, Twosugars wouldn't have even posted, because he expects it off men to do well in this field. Why does he seem delighted that a female succeeded? Because it's not the norm. But suddenly it's becoming the norm. Most work forces in the public eye are pushing for equal representation of men and women, and they'll do what they have to do to achieve it.

As you have said, no one knows what she did there but had a man said he worked at NASA, most people would assume he was a scientist or IT boffin but with a woman, people assume admin. There are lots of women in science but they are not recognised enough. Would like to know her job title when she did work there.

The problem isnt what she did, its the assumption that is insulting to women

[Alf]

On the actual story in the op, which I've not commented on yet, he was just joking, he says so. Maybe he did it as an icebreaker. This isn't even a story that we need to know about, but why are we?

[user104658]

On the actual story in the op, which I've not commented on yet, he was just joking, he says so. Maybe he did it as an icebreaker. This isn't even a story that we need to know about, but why are we?It's called "negging", it's a pick up technique that saddos who talk about "having game" use to try to chat up girls. On this occasion he (quite rightly) was called out on it.

[Kizzy]

Who would have thought it... 1970s humour not funny in 2019? :/

Oooh matron!!! :bored:

[Ammi]

It's called "negging", it's a pick up technique that saddos who talk about "having game" use to try to chat up girls. On this occasion he (quite rightly) was called out on it.

Who would have thought it... 1970s humour not funny in 2019? :/

Oooh matron!!! :bored:

..yeah totally, it was right to call him out on it...otherwise it would be setting different standards of saying it’s okay for him to do it and insult but not okay for her to call him out on the insult... which would be completely wrong ...it’s so easy to say ‘it was a joke’, type thing...when that ‘joke’ was realised to be in poor and inappropriate taste, as this was...that seems to be the current vogue for many things, I feel...but it’s no ‘joke’ when we think about some very real legislations regarding abortion and how females are still not considered equal I’m some societies...it isn’t a feminist concern, or shouldn’t be...it’s surely a humanist concern...why would anyone not want any female in their life to be in any way, considered equal but rather, ‘lesser’ than any male...?...females and males are equally achieving and that should be celebrated ...I’m assuming also that this is a young male of a similar-ish age to her...so as Kizzy has said, not someone of a 1970 mindset and era, either... in so many ways the world seems to be regressing, sadly....

[Cherie]

..yeah totally, it was right to call him out on it...otherwise it would be setting different standards of saying it’s okay for him to do it and insult but not okay for her to call him out on the insult... which would be completely wrong ...it’s so easy to say ‘it was a joke’, type thing...when that ‘joke’ was realised to be in poor and inappropriate taste, as this was...that seems to be the current vogue for many things, I feel...but it’s no ‘joke’ when we think about some very real legislations regarding abortion and how females are still not considered equal I’m some societies...it isn’t a feminist concern, or shouldn’t be...it’s surely a humanist concern...why would anyone not want any female in their life to be in any way, considered equal but rather, ‘lesser’ than any male...?...females and males are equally achieving and that should be celebrated ...I’m assuming also that this is a young male of a similar-ish age to her...so as Kizzy has said, not someone of a 1970 mindset and era, either... in so many ways the world seems to be regressing, sadly....

the difference being he 'insulted' her in a two way conversation, and she reciprocated by 'calling him out' over the internet, who knows if she actually engaged him in a conversation about it, he might have been quite a normal chap, or maybe not, but at least she would have given him a chance, how often are things we write in a post misinterpreted? yes it was a stupid joke, but he might have been the man of her dreams and she has now binned him off, often when we meet our other halves its not love at first sight kind of thing

[Cherie]

It's called "negging", it's a pick up technique that saddos who talk about "having game" use to try to chat up girls. On this occasion he (quite rightly) was called out on it.

of course there is a name for it, there is a name for everything now :joker:

[bots]

hmm, so all the lady doctors, surgeons, pharmacists, biologists etc etc etc all from a science background, had an easier time of it than men in the way through their education?


Deluded


Education is not about passing exams, it's about the capacity to learn and apply it

[user104658]

of course there is a name for it, there is a name for everything now :joker:It's not new, Cherie... The "pick up manual" (The Game) is from 2005 and the methods described in it have been around for decades.

If anyone's interested, the basic premise is to "tease" someone by making them out to be unimpressive, in the hopes that it'll play on some insecurity and they will then double down on their efforts to "impress" or catch the attention of the person doing the negging. In other words, baiting someone who wasn't all that interested into "doing the chasing".

It's crappy just like any other pick-up "trick".

I do agree with you though that she should just have shot him down in the chat and blocked. If she wanted to post it as an example of what women have to put up with (which is also fine) she should really have blanked out any names / pictures / other identifying information. It flies a little too close to doxxing otherwise, in my opinion.

[Cherie]

It's not new, Cherie... The "pick up manual" (The Game) is from 2005 and the methods described in it have been around for decades.

If anyone's interested, the basic premise is to "tease" someone by making them out to be unimpressive, in the hopes that it'll play on some insecurity and they will then double down on their efforts to "impress" or catch the attention of the person doing the negging. In other words, baiting someone who wasn't all that interested into "doing the chasing".

It's crappy just like any other pick-up "trick".

I do agree with you though that she should just have shot him down in the chat and blocked. If she wanted to post it as an example of what women have to put up with (which is also fine) she should really have blanked out any names / pictures / other identifying information. It flies a little too close to doxxing otherwise, in my opinion.

*clings onto Mr C for dear life*, I don't think I could do dating now, I would rather be on my own :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

the difference being he 'insulted' her in a two way conversation, and she reciprocated by 'calling him out' over the internet, who knows if she actually engaged him in a conversation about it, he might have been quite a normal chap, or maybe not, but at least she would have given him a chance, how often are things we write in a post misinterpreted? yes it was a stupid joke, but he might have been the man of her dreams and she has now binned him off, often when we meet our other halves its not love at first sight kind of thing

Probably explains why she's still single!

[Ammi]

...she did actually invite him to start chatting and have a two way conversation...:laugh:...but whilst he was waiting, he continued the conversation on his own, undermining her, having a little chat to himself...either assuming that she had been a receptionist or assuming a joke about her being a receptionist was okay...and she did actually say...’this is why I’m single...’....he made his choice, she made hers ...some things are just not meant to be...:laugh:..

[Niamh.]

Probably explains why she's still single!

Because she has standards? Good for her