View Full Version : Should we have an election ?
Kazanne
04-09-2019, 08:26 AM
I say ,yes bring it on, let the people decide (again) what we want
Cherie
04-09-2019, 08:30 AM
No because I think we will end up with a hung parliament
A 2019 reality referendum would be better
Kazanne
04-09-2019, 08:34 AM
No because I think we will end up with a hung parliament
A 2019 reality referendum would be better
Corbyn said he would never go for another vote,so it's his chance to get in,dont tell me he lied ? :wavey:
Nicky91
04-09-2019, 08:34 AM
a referendum would be best, let all the people decide what sort of brexit they want
Twosugars
04-09-2019, 08:37 AM
No because I think we will end up with a hung parliament
A 2019 reality referendum would be better
This
joeysteele
04-09-2019, 08:39 AM
No.
Not until there is a clearer picture of no deal removed.
I agree again with Rory Stewart, bring back the so called amended May deal to Parliament.
Stephen Kinnock is proposing the same.
Get something like that done, first.
Then an election.
Not at the will of a bullying and threatening PM and a hard line extreme Cabinet.
So no from me to an election in this climate.
I hope, really hope, Labour uses its votes to block it too.
joeysteele
04-09-2019, 08:43 AM
Corbyn said he would never go for another vote,so it's his chance to get in,dont tell me he lied ? :wavey:
No he didn't lie.
He's never really wanted a referendum again.
He knows how divisive the last was.
However the Labour party members do, being a Democrat he will do what is made Party policy at conference.
In the absence of a general election, which would be really a wrong move now.
He would support a referendum with, 'no deal or remain' on the ballot.
However Johnson and his Cabinet will NEVER agree to that one for sure.
...no I think we’re fairly stuffed if we have another election...it was always the route that Boris was ready for...
Kazanne
04-09-2019, 08:48 AM
a referendum would be best, let all the people decide what sort of brexit they want
And what happens if that referendum brings the same result ? It starts the merry go round all over again,Mps dont want to leave, the majority of people do :shrug:
The Slim Reaper
04-09-2019, 08:54 AM
And what happens if that referendum brings the same result ? It starts the merry go round all over again,Mps dont want to leave, the majority of people do :shrug:
Are you not curious why MP's find it difficult to back find a deal worse than the one we already have?
All those tory liars told you one after another; the easiest deal ever, the germans will come begging, we'll hold all the cards, we'll get a better deal easily. Where are they now?
Why is your only concern that Corbyn may have changed his mind about another vote, while you never even consider the lies you were told by a campaign acting illegally?
joeysteele
04-09-2019, 09:00 AM
And what happens if that referendum brings the same result ? It starts the merry go round all over again,Mps dont want to leave, the majority of people do :shrug:
If it brought the same result.
After all these years of learning more as to real facts and not the previous misleading on both sides.
Then that reinforces the original vote.
The majority of MPs DO want to leave but the majority of MPs do NOT want to leave with an uncertain, dangerous 'no deal' scenario.
Kazanne
04-09-2019, 11:45 AM
Are you not curious why MP's find it difficult to back find a deal worse than the one we already have?
All those tory liars told you one after another; the easiest deal ever, the germans will come begging, we'll hold all the cards, we'll get a better deal easily. Where are they now?
Why is your only concern that Corbyn may have changed his mind about another vote, while you never even consider the lies you were told by a campaign acting illegally?
Imo Slim they ALL lie to get what they want, I think the majority of MPs don't want to leave even with a deal as it wouldn't benefit them , I just think whichever way we leave we will cope , but it's not going to happen, we will still be here in another 3 years time, wonder if we will still be posting :laugh:
Kazanne
04-09-2019, 11:46 AM
If it brought the same result.
After all these years of learning more as to real facts and not the previous misleading on both sides.
Then that reinforces the original vote.
The majority of MPs DO want to leave but the majority of MPs do NOT want to leave with an uncertain, dangerous 'no deal' scenario.
I don't think it will happen Joey.:wavey:
Liam-
04-09-2019, 11:51 AM
Not yet, an election before Brexit is dealt with is like handing Farage the keys to number 10 and that’s something the country really doesn’t need
joeysteele
04-09-2019, 12:09 PM
I don't think it will happen Joey.:wavey:
I voted remain and proudly would again.
Even more determinedly too.
However, whether one is held or not,.I didn't like it but felt May's agreement should have been passed.
Anything that the DUP and the Con ERG are against, then it must have merits, in my view.
I fear an election will leave the UK where we are now, in a hung parliament again.
Nothing solved.
I am content to see the UK leave the EU but I'd never support any advocating even the thought of leaving with no deal.
However long it takes, a deal must be in place.
This PM is lying in my view only, to even indicate negotiations are taking place.
I still now also think, any deal would be better put to the people again for confirmation of leaving with it, or remaining.
I've changed my own mind on many things in the last 3 years, on politics, other issues and personal matters.
I'm sure most people do too and have.
Withano
04-09-2019, 12:17 PM
Yeh, but it should be between Boris’ deal, no deal (brexit party), second referendum (labour), and remain (lib dems)
... so not until boris actually does some work.
i don't see why we should have an election because parliament at the moment is a pretty accurate representation of what the population think. That's not going to change. The country is split. It's not an issue that can be resolved without half the population being really against it. We can force a move one way or another to resolve it, and at some point that will have to happen, but neither side will ever give up on it now so the issues will never go away.
Withano
04-09-2019, 12:36 PM
i don't see why we should have an election because parliament at the moment is a pretty accurate representation of what the population think. That's not going to change. The country is split. It's not an issue that can be resolved without half the population being really against it. We can force a move one way or another to resolve it, and at some point that will have to happen, but neither side will ever give up on it now so the issues will never go away.
It really isn’t
arista
04-09-2019, 12:44 PM
No.
Not until there is a clearer picture of no deal removed.
I agree again with Rory Stewart, bring back the so called amended May deal to Parliament.
Stephen Kinnock is proposing the same.
Get something like that done, first.
Then an election.
Not at the will of a bullying and threatening PM and a hard line extreme Cabinet.
So no from me to an election in this climate.
I hope, really hope, Labour uses its votes to block it too.
No it will not
come back
Mystic Mock
04-09-2019, 02:43 PM
I say let Boris have more time, and then call the election.
Tom4784
04-09-2019, 02:45 PM
Only if Brexit is delayed first in order to avoid any underhanded tactics by Boris.
Yes...Let's get labour in...
We need a laugh.
Withano
04-09-2019, 03:03 PM
Yes...Let's get labour in...
We need a laugh.
It beats the cries
Scarlett.
04-09-2019, 03:07 PM
We're weeks away from the deadline, now isn't there isnt time to waste on an election
arista
04-09-2019, 03:08 PM
Only if Brexit is delayed first in order to avoid any underhanded tactics by Boris.
Will
The EU allow a extension?
arista
04-09-2019, 03:09 PM
We're weeks away from the deadline, now isn't there isnt time to waste on an election
But the The PM has no Majority.
He has no choice
Tom4784
04-09-2019, 03:09 PM
Will
The EU allow a extension?
I believe they stated before that if another election were to happen, they'd give us an extension.
Mystic Mock
04-09-2019, 03:10 PM
We're weeks away from the deadline, now isn't there isnt time to waste on an election
This.
arista
04-09-2019, 03:11 PM
I believe they stated before that if another election were to happen, they'd give us an extension.
Yes 27 nations
to agree , then.
arista
04-09-2019, 03:19 PM
Phillip Hammond
in Parliament,
put the boot in.
He wants it made legal
to bring in the Labour Bill Going through now
which would Delay Johnson PM's General Election Plan.
Oliver_W
04-09-2019, 03:31 PM
It would make things easier for BoJo when he got a majority, I guess, so sure.
Vicky.
04-09-2019, 03:42 PM
Hung parliament I reckon. Sick of elections and voting. Still politically homeless anyway so probably wouldn't vote..
arista
04-09-2019, 03:57 PM
Hung parliament I reckon. Sick of elections and voting. Still politically homeless anyway so probably wouldn't vote..
But it can change so fast
So many MP's are standing down
at the next General Election, as well.
I mean, as much as I want the Tories dead and buried for what they've done to this country over the past five + years, I don't really see what a general election would achieve other than another striking illustration of how divided the country is politicaly.
arista
04-09-2019, 04:54 PM
I mean, as much as I want the Tories dead and buried for what they've done to this country over the past five + years, I don't really see what a general election would achieve other than another striking illustration of how divided the country is politicaly.
Some Reports say Johnson PM can ignore (reject) what
Labour is doing trying to block him,
and call a election with his own party only
Twosugars
04-09-2019, 05:03 PM
Some Reports say Johnson PM can ignore (reject) what
Labour is doing trying to block him,
and call a election with his own party only
How?
arista
04-09-2019, 05:06 PM
How?
Break the Law
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDkhP4uX4AARhG9?format=jpg&name=small
arista
04-09-2019, 05:11 PM
[More than 100,000 registered to vote in 48 hours as PM calls for election
Many of those applying are younger voters, with 58% of applications coming from people under the age of 34.]
https://news.sky.com/story/more-than-100-000-registered-to-vote-in-48-hours-as-pm-calls-for-election-11802215
joeysteele
04-09-2019, 05:22 PM
Break the Law
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDkhP4uX4AARhG9?format=jpg&name=small
If he broke the law to hold an election, he would totally discredit the Queen and the election would surely be invalid and illegal too.
Twosugars
04-09-2019, 05:37 PM
[More than 100,000 registered to vote in 48 hours as PM calls for election
Many of those applying are younger voters, with 58% of applications coming from people under the age of 34.]
https://news.sky.com/story/more-than-100-000-registered-to-vote-in-48-hours-as-pm-calls-for-election-11802215
Good news. Let's turf out these servants of hedge funds before they sell off the country
Twosugars
04-09-2019, 05:38 PM
Break the Law
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDkhP4uX4AARhG9?format=jpg&name=small
He could play a death eater without any makeup
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