US tells UK to take back British Isis fighters

[Twosugars]

Britain and other European nations that are refusing to repatriate Islamic State fighters and put them on trial in their country of origin are creating a risk to regional security, the US defence secretary warned at the start of his visit to London.

Mark Esper said there were around 2,000 foreign fighters, many from Europe, held in north-east Syria, but asking the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces to keep them in makeshift jails was an increasing risk to the fragile security of the region.

“It’s an untenable situation,” Esper said in a briefing on the first day of a two-day visit to London. “How long can this last? Our view has been they should repatriated and dealt with appropriately … otherwise that’s a risk to the region.”

Around 250 to 300 foreign fighters who are still in Syria are estimated to have come from the UK, but Britain is increasingly unwilling to allow any to return and stand trial following Isis’s defeat in Syria and Iraq.
The Guardian

[Toy Soldier]

The UK: "Yuck we don't want them strip their passports, send them to the US or Canada or Australia or literally anywhere but here, we want to responsibility."

Also the UK: "Hello guys can we has a rly gud trade deal pls."

[Oliver_W]

If they're a risk to that region, why should we bring them here? So they can either be a risk to our region, or cost the tax payers vast amounts of money in legal aid and prison?

[Twosugars]

If they're a risk to that region, why should we bring them here? So they can either be a risk to our region, or cost the tax payers vast amounts of money in legal aid and prison?

Better do what trump says or no trade deal

[Beso]

Just line them up against a wall and shoot them...problem solved.

[Toy Soldier]

If they're a risk to that region, why should we bring them here? So they can either be a risk to our region, or cost the tax payers vast amounts of money in legal aid and prison?Perhaps because they are being held in those regions, by people who are our closest allies, at their expense?

[Marsh.]

If they're a risk to that region, why should we bring them here? So they can either be a risk to our region, or cost the tax payers vast amounts of money in legal aid and prison?

Aren't you always claiming other countries should take their criminals back from us? You can't have it both ways.

[Denver]

Just put a bullet in their head, people like that should not get a 2nd chance

[arista]

Just line them up against a wall and shoot them...problem solved.


We would have to send our Troops
over there

[Niamh.]

Just put a bullet in their head, people like that should not get a 2nd chance

Errors can be made, putting a bullet in peoples heads is not the solution. If that's how terrorists were allowed to be dealt with, alot of innocent people would have been shot in the head during the IRA era. The guildford 4 and the Birmingham 6 for a start

[Oliver_W]

Errors can be made, putting a bullet in peoples heads is not the solution. If that's how terrorists were allowed to be dealt with, alot of innocent people would have been shot in the head during the IRA era. The guildford 4 and the Birmingham 6 for a start
I think going abroad to join a terrorist group gives less room for error tbh

[Denver]

Errors can be made, putting a bullet in peoples heads is not the solution. If that's how terrorists were allowed to be dealt with, alot of innocent people would have been shot in the head during the IRA era. The guildford 4 and the Birmingham 6 for a start

But there is no errors with people like Jihadi John and Shema Begum

[Marsh.]

But there is no errors with people like Jihadi John and Shema Begum

So 2 accurate shots justifies 12 inaccurate?

[Niamh.]

I think going abroad to join a terrorist group gives less room for error tbh

Any such law that gives you the right to just shot a person in the head could and would be abused

[Marsh.]

Any such law that gives you the right to just shot a person in the head could and would be abused

Yep, definitely. It's that kind of logic that leads to the mess you have in the US with gun laws.

[Tom4784]

You don't react to barbarity with more barbarity and then act morally superior about it.

Shooting people in the head like that is more the terrorist's speed than that of a civilised nation.

[Beso]

You don't react to barbarity with more barbarity and then act morally superior about it.

Shooting people in the head like that is more the terrorist's speed than that of a civilised nation.

Which is why we don't need any of them back here.. .so **** them...leave them to thier demise...which is hopefully a bullet to the head from thier captors.

[Twosugars]

Which is why we don't need any of them back here.. .so **** them...leave them to thier demise...which is hopefully a bullet to the head from thier captors.

Trump says UK must take them back so tough luck :hee:

[Kizzy]

I agree we need them back. How dangerous is it to have western born jihadists recruiting or sharing information thst we are unaware of.. To my mind that is more of s danger to national security, here it is easier monitor any potential threat these people pose.

[Oliver_W]

How dangerous is it to have western born jihadists recruiting or sharing information thst we are unaware of..
I don't know, how dangerous? What on earth would Jihadi Jack know which has any value that they couldn't find out online or through whatever resources they have?

[Twosugars]

If only we were a part of a powerful block of countries able to defy trump.... :think:

[Cherie]

I agree we need them back. How dangerous is it to have western born jihadists recruiting or sharing information thst we are unaware of.. To my mind that is more of s danger to national security, here it is easier monitor any potential threat these people pose.


The should come back and be imprisoned with no bail until trial, the reason people don't want them back is they are left back in and are free in many cases just to get on with it

Britain has 'by far the highest rate of returning jihadi fighters in Europe

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/27/britain-has-far-highest-rate-returning-jihadi-fighters-europe/?wgu=272965_16644_15678568470519_d7063f164f&wgexpiry=1575632847&WT.mc_id=tmgoff_paff-4551_subsoffers_basic_planit&utm_source=tmgoff&utm_medium=tmgoff_paff-4551&utm_content=subsoffers_basic&utm_campaign=tmgoff_paff-4551_subsoffers_basic_planit

[Beso]

Trump says UK must take them back so tough luck :hee:

Do you have an actual point to this post mate?

[Twosugars]

Do you have an actual point to this post mate?

I do mate.

My point is that by abandoning EU, britain is at the mercy of the US and its freedom of action, its sovereignty is limited if it wants a trade deal.
What a pickle huh
Get used to doing what trump says
Taking back control, lol. Not really.

[Kizzy]

I don't know, how dangerous? What on earth would Jihadi Jack know which has any value that they couldn't find out online or through whatever resources they have?

He knows a lot . The methods they use to radicalised young people, how they lie and manipulate or threaten or befriend.
How do you think they get the resources they have? They speak to people who have experienced it first hand.

[Kizzy]

The should come back and be imprisoned with no bail until trial, the reason people don't want them back is they are left back in and are free in many cases just to get on with it

Britain has 'by far the highest rate of returning jihadi fighters in Europe

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/27/britain-has-far-highest-rate-returning-jihadi-fighters-europe/?wgu=272965_16644_15678568470519_d7063f164f&wgexpiry=1575632847&WT.mc_id=tmgoff_paff-4551_subsoffers_basic_planit&utm_source=tmgoff&utm_medium=tmgoff_paff-4551&utm_content=subsoffers_basic&utm_campaign=tmgoff_paff-4551_subsoffers_basic_planit
Yes I'm sure that's what happens, they just come back, we give them a house and a car and let them get on with it.

[Beso]

I do mate.

My point is that by abandoning EU, britain is at the mercy of the US and its freedom of action, its sovereignty is limited if it wants a trade deal.
What a pickle huh
Get used to doing what trump says
Taking back control, lol. Not really.

The UK will be around a lot longer than trump..why so tied up about the now?

[Beso]

He knows a lot . The methods they use to radicalised young people, how they lie and manipulate or threaten or befriend.
How do you think they get the resources they have? They speak to people who have experienced it first hand.

No comment..is that within thier rights?

[Twosugars]

The UK will be around a lot longer than trump..why so tied up about the now?

Trump will be gone eventually but America will still dictate to us. Oh dear.

[Beso]

Trump will be gone eventually but America will still dictate to us. Oh dear.

By whom?

Who will dictate to us?

Because right now you give me the impression that trump doesn't stand for America..so who will be standing for America when they continue dictating to us?

[Kizzy]

No comment..is that within thier rights?

Is it within our rights to not know where those who might be a threat to our national security are?....

[Toy Soldier]

Trump will be gone eventually but America will still dictate to us. Oh dear.Honestly with No Deal our only hope is that Trump's love of our... Erm... Population demographic... Prompts him to set up a good deal AND THEN the US sorts out their **** and elects a decent and responsible government for us to be tied to.