NYC: United Nations Greta Kid is saying "How Dare You" Live

[arista]

Look
China has re -stated loads of Coal Fields.


You know What Greta
no one can Stop China Burning Coal


So Stop Crying....................


You claim to Draw a Line?
Bollocks you are
Go to China - Ask them to Stop burning Coal

Greta says The World is waking Up?
Not in China it Ain't.

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[bots]

it's not a good look attacking a child Arista

[arista]

it's not a good look attacking a child Arista



I am Not attacking this 16 year old


But "The World is Not Waking Up"
as that kid just said

Massive Coal Burners
are now back online in China
She must go there
and talk to the China Leader
then she may get my respect

[Scarlett.]

It's not just China who is refusing to change

[Twosugars]

Arista we have to start somewhere
You cant pressurise china if we dont do our bit
A time will come to sort China too. We buy their products so we have the leverage

[arista]

It's not just China who is refusing to change


Of Course
Brazil , India and USA as well.



But In a Zone in China
has Massive New Coal Burners
that must stop.
That Kid has to go to China.

[Alf]

The Doomsday Religion. Greta is the Messiah.

I will follow her, follow her wherever she may go. Show us the way, O great one.

[arista]

Arista we have to start somewhere
You cant pressurise china if we dont do our bit
A time will come to sort China too. We buy their products so we have the leverage


No it will not change unless the Whole World Changes.

[Twosugars]

No it will not change unless the Whole World Changes.

Embrace the challenge Arista

Let us be the catalysts for change

Dare to dream

[Oliver_W]

She's a bit juvenile, sure, but she's 16.

[Alf]

No it will not change unless the Whole World Changes.The whole World is not going to be changing, not without force anyway.

[Niamh.]

Maybe she can't speak Chinese Arista, can you????? :oh:

[Scarlett.]

No it will not change unless the Whole World Changes.

Does the sea level rising count as the whole world changing? Though, I imagine companies will still feign ignorance rather than actually do anything to change

[The Slim Reaper]

Grrrrrrrrrr I'm angry at a little girl for talking sense, and I'm not afraid to show it.

[arista]

Does the sea level rising count as the whole world changing? Though, I imagine comanpies will still feign ignorance rather than actually do anything to change


Yes the Sea is changing
in Greenland less Ice/


That Nation Shocking puts its Rubbish on a Beach
in rotting black bags.
Shown on Ch4HDNews special report.

[Niamh.]

So basically what you're saying is as long as other countries are worse no one should do anything? Great way to get nothing done about anything ever

[arista]

Maybe she can't speak Chinese Arista, can you????? :oh:



You do not need to.
There is app on your Phone
that does that.

[arista]

So basically what you're saying is as long as other countries are worse no one should do anything? Great way to get nothing done about anything ever


No I am Highlighting China
These Massive Coal Burners are as big as a Irish Town.

They are Digging Up Coal
faster than any other nation.
Auto Drilling - No Humans.

[Alf]

Grrrrrrrrrr I'm angry at a little girl for talking sense, and I'm not afraid to show it.She might be talking sense in Clown World, but some of us are still sane.

[The Slim Reaper]

She might be talking sense in Clown World, but some of us are still sane.

Let's get to the point, do you believe man made climate change is real?

[Alf]

Let's get to the point, do you believe man made climate change is real?No, I blame the women.

[The Slim Reaper]

No, I blame the women.

And you believe others are living in clown world?

[Alf]

And you believe others are living in clown world?People have been predicting these Doomsday scenarios for 1000s of centuries. They're nothing new.

In my lifetime, it's been a hole in the ozone layer, the Greenhouse effect, global warming and now climate change.

Do you buy everything a salesman offers you?

[Scarlett.]

People have been predicting these Doomsday scenarios for 1000s of centuries. They're nothing new.

In my lifetime, it's been a hole in the ozone layer, the Greenhouse effect, global warming and now climate change.

Do you buy everything a salesman offers you?

Um, most of those listed are the same thing...

[Alf]

Um, most of those listed are the same thing...Exactly, just change the name for each generation to buy into.

[Scarlett.]

The greenhouse effect is the effect in which the gasses in the atmosphere trap the suns warmth in the atmosphere, like a greenhouse, these gases can also damage the o zone layer, thankfully, this itself was reversable and is recovering, but the trapped warmth still causes the icebergs to melt leading to the rise of sea levels, and a general change in the weather system, which is global warming/climate change respectively.

[Twosugars]

Exactly, just change the name for each generation to buy into.

Not really. Just different names for the same thing

Btw hole in ozone layer has been addressed by banning cfc gasses from fridges, deodorants and such. Discovered by science addressed by science.

[Alf]

The greenhouse effect is the effect in which the gasses in the atmosphere trap the suns warmth in the atmosphere, like a greenhouse, these gases can also damage the o zone layer, thankfully, this itself was reversable and is recovering, but the trapped warmth still causes the icebergs to melt leading to the rise of sea levels, and a general change in the weather system, which is global warming/climate change respectively.There's some Italian guy, who is a weather anorak, he has been since a child. He's studied weather and says what we see with today's weather is not something new. It's all to do with the sun, not us. We can't do a thing.

[Twosugars]

There's some Italian guy, who is a weather anorak, he has been since a child. He's studied weather and says what we see with today's weather is not something new. It's all to do with the sun, not us. We can't do a thing.

Not true.
Scientists from all over the world vs an Italian anorak. Nice one

[Alf]

Not true.
Scientists from all over the world vs an Italian anorak. Nice oneEvery scientist or some?

[Twosugars]

Every scientist or some?

Vast majority and growing as we get more data

[Twosugars]

How can having a clean environment, green technologies and sustainable development be in any way controversial? Digi
That is something for all of us, not just liberals.

[Alf]

Vast majority and growing as we get more dataSo there are Scientists that disagree out there?

[Ammi]

Look
China has re -stated loads of Coal Fields.


You know What Greta
no one can Stop China Burning Coal


So Stop Crying....................


You claim to Draw a Line?
Bollocks you are
Go to China - Ask them to Stop burning Coal

Greta says The World is waking Up?
Not in China it Ain't.

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...her passion is outstanding...Greta...:lovedup:...her tears are the tears of all of our children...:’....

[Twosugars]

So there are Scientists that disagree out there?

Like there are some doctors who are against vaccines :shrug:

I guess they get funding from rich climate change deniers

[arista]

...her passion is outstanding...Greta...:lovedup:...her tears are the tears of all of our children...:’....


Sure Ammi
but she has No Solution
for Mega Big Coal Burners
in China.


Greta says The World is waking Up?
Utter Bollocks


China is not .

[Alf]

Like there are some doctors who are against vaccines :shrug:

I guess they get funding from rich climate change deniersYeah! that'll be it.

So what you're saying is that every scientist who agrees with you is honest and correct, and every one who disagrees with you is corrupt and wrong. How fortunate for you.

[Twosugars]

The facts are undeniable. All data says the climate is warming, ice is melting, sea levels rising, co2 concentration rising.
In the normal turn of events we should be experiencing slight cooling as we near the end of the current interglacial period, but the opposite is happening

[Ammi]

Sure Ammi
but she has No Solution
for Mega Big Coal Burners
in China.


Greta says The World is waking Up?
Utter Bollocks


China is not .

...Greta is leading the way for our children from China as well, Arista...all steps are important steps...

[Twosugars]

Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.
Nasa

The scientific consensus is that the global average surface temperature has risen over the past century. Scientific opinion on climate change was summarized in the 2001 Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The main conclusions on global warming at that time were as follows:

The global average surface temperature has risen 0.6 ± 0.2 °C since the late 19th century, and 0.17 °C per decade in the years 1971–2001.[5]
"There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities", in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane.[6]
If greenhouse gas emissions continue the warming will also continue, with temperatures projected to increase by 1.4 °C to 5.8 °C between 1990 and 2100.[A] Accompanying this temperature increase will be increases in some types of extreme weather and a projected sea level rise.[7] The balance of impacts of global warming become significantly negative at larger values of warming.[8]
These findings are recognized by the national science academies of all the major industrialized nations;[9] the consensus has strengthened over time[10] and is now virtually unanimous.[11] The level of consensus correlates with expertise in climate science.[12]
Wikipedia

[arista]

...Greta is leading the way for our children from China as well, Arista...all steps are important steps...


Sure
But no one
can Instruct China on its Massive Coal Burning
24/7.

[Scarlett.]

Yeah! that'll be it.

So what you're saying is that every scientist who agrees with you is honest and correct, and every one who disagrees with you is corrupt and wrong. How fortunate for you.

Fill a greenhouse with smoke and see what happens to the plants, it's not rocket science.

[Alf]

Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.
Nasa

The scientific consensus is that the global average surface temperature has risen over the past century. Scientific opinion on climate change was summarized in the 2001 Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The main conclusions on global warming at that time were as follows:

The global average surface temperature has risen 0.6 ± 0.2 °C since the late 19th century, and 0.17 °C per decade in the years 1971–2001.[5]
"There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities", in particular emissions of the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane.[6]
If greenhouse gas emissions continue the warming will also continue, with temperatures projected to increase by 1.4 °C to 5.8 °C between 1990 and 2100.[A] Accompanying this temperature increase will be increases in some types of extreme weather and a projected sea level rise.[7] The balance of impacts of global warming become significantly negative at larger values of warming.[8]
These findings are recognized by the national science academies of all the major industrialized nations;[9] the consensus has strengthened over time[10] and is now virtually unanimous.[11] The level of consensus correlates with expertise in climate science.[12]
WikipediaHave you ever watched "World poverty gumballs" on YouTube? If you wanna see what we're really doing to the world, watch that.

[arista]

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[Tom4784]

it's not a good look attacking a child Arista

The Right Wing have acted atrociously towards her.

I think her speech was on point, the inaction of the world leaders are in effect, stealing the future from children and children yet to be born.

[Beso]

She should cheer up...Thomas Cook has gone tits up..get the balloons oot ya door faced **** actress.

[Beso]

People have been predicting these Doomsday scenarios for 1000s of centuries. They're nothing new.

In my lifetime, it's been a hole in the ozone layer, the Greenhouse effect, global warming and now climate change.

Do you buy everything a salesman offers you?




:joker:

Funny and very true.

[Scarlett.]

get the balloons oot ya door faced **** actress.

Bit of an odd thing to say about a 16 year old

[Beso]

Bit of an odd thing to say about a 16 year old

Oh...her age again.

Yes, I was young once...coal was burning away like nobodies business all over the world..sheesh that was a few years ago now..thank God we don't have things like mobile phones to make for all these kids so desperate for the next thing...cause that would ruin the planet..

[Beso]

Who says climate change isn't down to airwaves/beams or whatever transmits mobile data from mobiles?




Just a thought popped in to my head...has that been disproven?

[Twosugars]

Bit of an odd thing to say about a 16 year old

Well when you dont have arguments, insults must do :shrug:

[Beso]

Well when you dont have arguments, insults must do :shrug:

An argument about what?..the chosen one being on telly again, or climate change?

[Kizzy]

I'm a bit worried about her tbh, she seems genuinely depressed now... the realisation that governments don't want to help and worse actively agitate against green initiatives to protect big business must be hitting hard :(

[Beso]

I'm a bit worried about her tbh, she seems genuinely depressed now... the realisation that governments don't want to help and worse actively agitate against green initiatives to protect big business must be hitting hard :(

She's being used now...opened up to ridicule and heartbreak...

[Twosugars]

She's being used now...opened up to ridicule and heartbreak...

By the hard right

[Beso]

By the hard right

Probably by her parents, but of course I must remember the hard right is responsible for all the world's woes...silly me.

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/nTwXGwjcwb7IaFsr33lVPA/https/media.fyre.co/zYqgxwd9TSuDqbPt2XlM_greta.JPG


Young Lady
China has Failed you
they do not care that you are watching them.

[arista]

Probably by her parents, but of course I must remember the hard right is responsible for all the world's woes...silly me.


Yes
they advise her

[Beso]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/nTwXGwjcwb7IaFsr33lVPA/https/media.fyre.co/zYqgxwd9TSuDqbPt2XlM_greta.JPG


Young Lady
China has Failed you
they do not care that you are watching them.

She's aged.....:nono:

[arista]

She's aged.....:nono:


Yes The Angry Kid

[Twosugars]

Probably by her parents, but of course I must remember the hard right is responsible for all the world's woes...silly me.

They attack her all the time. As if climate change only affected liberals :laugh:
That's the sort of nasty destructive arseholes they are

[Beso]

They attack her all the time. As if climate change only affected liberals :laugh:
That's the sort of nasty destructive arseholes they are



We need a graph at least that shows the demographic and political leaning of all her online attackers before that can be held up....anywhere else, but tibb.

[Beso]

The world will debate, the leaders will promise..targets will be missed..the world will go on.

[Twosugars]

We need a graph at least that shows the demographic and political leaning of all her online attackers before that can be held up....anywhere else, but tibb.

Start with Aaron Banks the moneybags of farage
He hoped she'd have a yacht accident on her way to America.
What a charmer

[Beso]

Start with Aaron Banks the moneybags of farage
He hoped she'd have a yacht accident on her way to America.
What a charmer


He obviously knew she would be flying.

[arista]

4-f0j7Lgxzk
A Piano backing
and its CGTN
the News Channel funded by China Government.

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The Full UnEdited Speech

No way is it 8 years.

[Tom4784]

Probably by her parents, but of course I must remember the hard right is responsible for all the world's woes...silly me.

Nah, her parents aren't to blame, it's people like you really who insulted her in this very thread not long ago. Grown ass people who don't want to face an uncomfortable truth and so you'll demonise the girl, blame her parents for the abuse she receives from the Right instead of blaming the Right directly.

We are at a precipice and desperately trying to ignore that won't make it go away, making out that airwaves are to blame for climate change when the answer is clear.

People who deny climate change are no different to the likes of anti-vaxxers.

[Kizzy]

She's being used now...opened up to ridicule and heartbreak...

By people like you...those in denial who ignore the science and experts in favour of those with vested interests.

[Alf]

You can see in this thread why they use a child. Because any criticism will be met with the defence of "It's disgusting to say that about a child"

The Nazis also used a child to spread their propaganda. That child was also a girl, that girl also wore her hair in pigtails, (or whatever style of tails they're called which Greta wears her hair) just a coincidence, I'm sure.

[Ammi]

...no one is using her, she isn’t the only voice at the youth part of the summit...there were many young voices, Greta is just the most high profile, is all..so she gains the media interest...young people voicing concerns of any world issue/..environmental issue, with world leaders is not a new thing, it’s quite an obvious thing...sadly for many generations, we have taken our planet and existence for granted...whilst, creating a speed-dial for the planet and existence of future generations...why wouldn’t they scream about that...?...of course they would and they are...they’re not being used, they’re being outraged...

[bots]

What makes me laugh is that even if you don't believe in climate change anything we can do to clean up the air and water is essential for our ongoing survival. How can anyone deny that? If someone came along and took a dump on your dinner, you would soon have something to say about it, and that's basically what is happening at the moment with the likes of Trump and China cheering them on.

[Ammi]

...we scream out about ‘traditions’ as generations...of preserving them ..?...yet carelessly disregard our very existence that would enable any tradition to be preserved...how can our children understand that...I mean, they just can’t because it doesn’t make sense..and the impact on each generation will get more and more serious and crisis point...

[The Slim Reaper]

You can see in this thread why they use a child. Because any criticism will be met with the defence of "It's disgusting to say that about a child"

The Nazis also used a child to spread their propaganda. That child was also a girl, that girl also wore her hair in pigtails, (or whatever style of tails they're called which Greta wears her hair) just a coincidence, I'm sure.

You're now using Dinesh D'souza, the convicted criminal and pseudo-historian for your memes?

You've used Ben Shapiro and this fool in the last few days. If you believe in truth as much as you claim, then look into the background of this charlatan.

[Niamh.]

What makes me laugh is that even if you don't believe in climate change anything we can do to clean up the air and water is essential for our ongoing survival. How can anyone deny that? If someone came along and took a dump on your dinner, you would soon have something to say about it, and that's basically what is happening at the moment with the likes of Trump and China cheering them on.Exactly, I don't understand the resistance some people have to it. It makes no sense

[Alf]

You're now using Dinesh D'souza, the convicted criminal and pseudo-historian for your memes?

You've used Ben Shapiro and this fool in the last few days. If you believe in truth as much as you claim, then look into the background of this charlatan.What's this, a report from Clown World?

I'm using Dinesh D'Souza and Ben Shapiro What are you talking about?

Does that mean you're using a 16 year old girl called Greta?

[The Slim Reaper]

What's this, a report from Clown World?

I'm using Dinesh D'Souza and Ben Shapiro What are you talking about?

Does that mean you're using a 16 year old girl called Greta?

No, you used the bs from Ben Shapiro about Nazi gun control, and now you've just recycled Dinesh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFHzU-uXkAEwK0m?format=jpg&name=large

Look familiar?

[Alf]

No, you used the bs from Ben Shapiro about Nazi gun control, and now you've just recycled Dinesh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFHzU-uXkAEwK0m?format=jpg&name=large

Look familiar?Let's say for arguments sake I did (I didn't by the way) then what's your point?

Is your point that the Nazis didn't use children to push their propaganda, and that Dinesh is telling lies?

[Twosugars]

You can see in this thread why they use a child. Because any criticism will be met with the defence of "It's disgusting to say that about a child"

The Nazis also used a child to spread their propaganda. That child was also a girl, that girl also wore her hair in pigtails, (or whatever style of tails they're called which Greta wears her hair) just a coincidence, I'm sure.

Deluded argument.
The issue existed before she got involved and will exist after she's gone.
If you can't argue the message let's attack the messenger huh

That's why climate change deniers like trump or banks go after the girl, so much easier.
And also so cowardly.

Bolsonaro is even attacking the catholic church now for, wait for it, being too lefty bc it dares to be concerned about the environment. You couldn't make it up.

Sad. But not surprising.

[The Slim Reaper]

Let's say for arguments sake I did (I didn't by the way) then what's your point?

Is your point that the Nazis didn't use children to push their propaganda, and that Dinesh is telling lies?

If you were (but of course you weren't), then you're getting information from a convicted criminal that also tries to rewrite history by claiming (incorrectly) that the nazi's were left wing. You used one of his BS points a while back because National Socialists have socialists in their name.

Dinesh lies about pretty much everything, hence why he's been to prison.

[Alf]

Deluded argument.
The issue existed before she got involved and will exist after she's gone.
If you can't argue the message let's attack the messenger huh

That's why climate change deniers like trump or banks go after the girl, so much easier.
And also so cowardly.

Bolsonaro is even attacking the catholic church now for, wait for it, being too left bc it dares to be concerned about the environment. You couldn't make it up.

Sad. But not surprising.I was right with my first post in this thread then, this is almost like a religion and as you say, she is the messenger.

[Alf]

If you were (but of course you weren't), then you're getting information from a convicted criminal that also tries to rewrite history by claiming (incorrectly) that the nazi's were left wing. You used one of his BS points a while back because National Socialists have socialists in their name.

Dinesh lies about pretty much everything, hence why he's been to prison.He went to prison because he donated too much money to a political campaign. He's a Republican.

Rosie O'Donnell committed the same crime, 5 times, she didn't go to prison. She's a democrat.

[Twosugars]

No, you used the bs from Ben Shapiro about Nazi gun control, and now you've just recycled Dinesh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFHzU-uXkAEwK0m?format=jpg&name=large

Look familiar?

:laugh3:

Omfg how stupid you can get :laugh:
Nazis promoted supposed aryan race features like blond hair and blue eyes and Greta as a Swede has those features therefore she must be evil like the nazis :laugh:

In other news black people must be evil bc satan is always portrayed with a dark complexion :laugh:

:facepalm:

[The Slim Reaper]

I was right with my first post in this thread then, this is almost like a religion and as you say, she is the messenger.

Religions are well known for their deference and acceptance of science, whereas rational movements are generally formed around a central figure who convinces folks they know better than everyone else in spite of all the evidence :hehe: :smug:

[The Slim Reaper]

He went to prison because he donated too much money to a political campaign. He's a Republican.

Rosie O'Donnell committed the same crime, 5 times, she didn't go to prison. She's a democrat.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jun/06/ted-cruz/dinesh-dsouza-and-rosie-odonnell-fec-violations-di/

[Twosugars]

I was right with my first post in this thread then, this is almost like a religion and as you say, she is the messenger.

Attenborough has been giving the same message for years.

I guess you think he is a high priest of the cult of Greta
The same for Packham and all scientists and naturalists on the telly.

Folks you've heard it here first :joker:get your tin hats on

[Alf]

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jun/06/ted-cruz/dinesh-dsouza-and-rosie-odonnell-fec-violations-di/Oh! So that's it? All Dinesh had to do was play dumb and pretend he didn't know it was a crime? Silly him for being honest eh?

So now, for his honesty, he no longer goes by the name of Dinesh on Tibb, he now goes by the name "Covicted Criminal Dinesh"

If only he'd have played dumb, he could have kept his normal name like Rosie O'Donnell will.

[Twosugars]

I was right with my first post in this thread then, this is almost like a religion and as you say, she is the messenger.

Tell us more how this dangerous new religion operates. Name names. Expose them.
We need to know. Are tin hats enough protection against their vile propaganda? :worry:

[Alf]

Attenborough has been giving the same message for years.

I guess you think he is a high priest of the cult of Greta
The same for Packham and all scientists and naturalists on the telly.

Folks you've heard it here first :joker:get your tin hats onAre you seriously asking me to accept what BBC says, with a straight face?

Two words, Jimmy Saville.

[Twosugars]

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jun/06/ted-cruz/dinesh-dsouza-and-rosie-odonnell-fec-violations-di/

Not his lover as well :omgno: very naughty to get other names to donate and then repay them. It's almost as if he knew it was naughty to give so much money to his friends campaign and tried to cover his tracks :pipe:

[Twosugars]

Are you seriously asking me to accept what BBC says, with a straight face?

Two words, Jimmy Saville.

Tell us more how this dangerous new religion operates. Name names. Expose them.
We need to know. Are tin hats enough protection against their vile propaganda? :worry:

.

[The Slim Reaper]

Oh! So that's it? All Dinesh had to do was play dumb and pretend he didn't know it was a crime? Silly him for being honest eh?

So now, for his honesty, he no longer goes by the name of Dinesh on Tibb, he now goes by the name "Covicted Criminal Dinesh"

If only he'd have played dumb, he could have kept his normal name like Rosie O'Donnell will.

You know that's not true though. It's nowhere near as simple as playing dumb; the differences are clearly laid out. His pseudo-history is what I know him for, the crime bit is just the cherry on top.

[The Slim Reaper]

Not his lover as well :omgno: very naughty to get other names to donate and then repay them. It's almost as if he knew it was naughty to give so much money to his friends campaign and tried to cover his tracks :pipe:

And that's exactly the difference between an oversight and intent.

[Alf]

So anyway, let's say everybody in the World gets on board with this climate change movement. What happens next?

[The Slim Reaper]

So anyway, let's say everybody in the World gets on board with this climate change movement. What happens next?

We invade Poland again and try to wipe out all the Jews.










I think I might have let the cat out of the bag.

[arista]

So anyway, let's say everybody in the World gets on board with this climate change movement. What happens next?


Yes Alf
Great point
No Weather would change

[Kizzy]

I was right with my first post in this thread then, this is almost like a religion and as you say, she is the messenger.

Lets consider the message rather than the messenger ...
In the nazi propaganda the youth wing were not educated they were forced into believing the lies from the party.
Greta is affiliated to no party.
The depiction was a party inspired image of the perfect child...not an actual child.
Greta is an actual child.
The nazi propaganda spoke against experts and unity and called for the suffering if others.
Greta calls for those in power to listen to scientists and experts, she speaks of unity and an end to the suffering of others.
The message could not be more different, so why would anyone think for a moment the outcome will be the same?
There is no call to usurp, suppress, repress or kill, apart from the pigtails there is nothing to link these whatsoever.
If that is enough for you to disregard her and her message then that is pitiful and for me a sign that it is not Greta who has been indoctrinated.

[Twosugars]

So anyway, let's say everybody in the World gets on board with this climate change movement. What happens next?

:nono:

Tell us more about who else is involved in this giant scam

So far we have Greta, attenborough, saville, bbc...
Who else?

[Alf]

We invade Poland again and try to wipe out all the Jews.










I think I might have let the cat out of the bag.Well I'm totally against that. You're not selling this very well.

[Alf]

:nono:

Tell us more about who else is involved in this giant scam

So far we have Greta, attenborough, saville, bbc...
Who else?Anybody who tries to sell you it.

I've just given you a chance to sell it to me by explaining what happens when we all sign up?

[The Slim Reaper]

Lets consider the message rather than the messenger ...
In the nazi propaganda the youth wing were not educated they were forced into believing the lies from the party.
Greta is affiliated to no party.
The depiction was a party inspired image of the perfect child...not an actual child.
Greta is an actual child.
The nazi propaganda spoke against experts and unity and called for the suffering if others.
Greta calls for those in power to listen to scientists and experts, she speaks of unity and an end to the suffering of others.
The message could not be more different, so why would anyone think for a moment the outcome will be the same?
There is no call to usurp, suppress, repress or kill, apart from the pigtails there is nothing to link these whatsoever.
If that is enough for you to disregard her and her message then that is pitiful and for me a sign that it is not Greta who has been indoctrinated.

You're talking to people that believed a red bus.

[arista]

Exactly, I don't understand the resistance some people have to it. It makes no sense


China has covered a Mega big error with Solar Panels.
But at same time has Mega Big Coal
burners in another part of China.

So all that mega Big Solar
is not valid until they Halt the Massive Coal Burners,
and they are not.

[Twosugars]

Anybody who tries to sell you it.

I've just giving you a chance to sell it to me by explaining what happens when we all sign up?

What about the Clintons? And the CNN? They must be involved somehow:worry:

On a serious note, I really dont care if you dont believe science. Luckily enough people do so you can indulge in your conspiracy theories as much as you like.
Not wasting my time on "selling" anything to you :)

[Kizzy]

You're talking to people that believed a red bus.

That's true :/

[Alf]

What about the Clintons? And the CNN? They must be involved somehow:worry:

On a serious note, I really dont care if you dont believe science. Luckily enough people do so you can indulge in your conspiracy theories as much as you like.
Not wasting my time on "selling" anything to you :)You still haven't explained what happens next, what are we supposed to do?

Do we turn off all the lights and live in the dark?
Do we give up our Televisions, phones, cars?

What is it we're supposed to be doing?

[Alf]

It's give money, isn't it? It always is.

So what do they do with that money to save the World?

[Alf]

Disappeared quicker than Keyser Soze

You having that one Slim? Better than your disapear like Maddie one.

[Alf]

"Hey! Teachers, leave those kids alone"

[Kizzy]

It's give money, isn't it? It always is.

So what do they do with that money to save the World?

No it isn't .. how can you be against what this girl says when quite obviously you don't have a clue what she's saying?

[Niamh.]

China has covered a Mega big error with Solar Panels.
But at same time has Mega Big Coal
burners in another part of China.

So all that mega Big Solar
is not valid until they Halt the Massive Coal Burners,
and they are not.

Of course, but is everyone else supposed to do nothing until China does something?

[Alf]

No it isn't .. how can you be against what this girl says when quite obviously you don't have a clue what she's saying?Well you're coming across as though you do have a clue. So maybe you could answer my questions about what happens when we all sign up to the cause? What do I personally have to do to save the World from ceasing to exist? What do you want from me?

[Alf]

Am I asking a difficult or unreasonable question or something?

[Beso]

She should respect her elders ..not shout at them.

[arista]

Of course, but is everyone else supposed to do nothing until China does something?


No of Course not.


But to this 16 year old
she has needs to go to China
and Talk with that Leader.

[James]

Serious question... What are her policies or plan?

[Alf]

Serious question... What are her policies or plan?It was a serious question when I asked it. So far Kizzy has told me that they don't want my money.

[The Slim Reaper]

Serious question... What are her policies or plan?

Why would she need to have one? She's a kid trying to help raise awareness, she's not in the middle of an election campaign.

We already know that half of the country see's any kind of plan as completely unnecessary. If only we held our own politicians to the same scrutiny as this 16yr old, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in.

[Alf]

Why would she need to have one? She's a kid trying to help raise awareness, she's not in the middle of an election campaign.

We already know that half of the country see's any kind of plan as completely unnecessary. If only we held our own politicians to the same scrutiny as this 16yr old, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in.Nobody's holding her personally to account, everybody knows she's just a puppet and others are pulling her strings. But at the moment, she's been pushed out front and centre and all we have to go on with this is that a girl is upset that people aren't doing enough for something she believes in.

[James]

Why would she need to have one? She's a kid trying to help raise awareness, she's not in the middle of an election campaign.

We already know that half of the country see's any kind of plan as completely unnecessary. If only we held our own politicians to the same scrutiny as this 16yr old, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in.

That's why it is important to know what the plan is to stop warming - not just her's but the environmental movement's - so that we don't make things worse.

[The Slim Reaper]

Nobody's holding her personally to account, everybody knows she's just a puppet and others are pulling her strings. But at the moment, she's been pushed out front and centre and all we have to go on with this is that a girl is upset that people aren't doing enough for something she believes in.

The environment belongs to all of us and we all have a stake in it. It's not really about her, she's just become a focal point that (mainly dudes) can ridicule because she cares about something and doesn't have all the answers. Like every single one of us here is an expert on everything.

[arista]

Serious question... What are her policies or plan?


She wants us to immediately to
Halt Flying,




She is not in thinking in the real World.

[Alf]

The environment belongs to all of us and we all have a stake in it. It's not really about her, she's just become a focal point that (mainly dudes) can ridicule because she cares about something and doesn't have all the answers. Like every single one of us here is an expert on everything.Couldn't she write a book instead of taking up all our news time?

Do you honestly believe that humans who have been on this planet for, what? A few thousand years? can some how save the Planet (which as been here for billions of years) from itself?

Don't worry, the planet will see us humans off before we ever save it from itself.

[The Slim Reaper]

That's why it is important to know what the plan is to stop warming - not just her but the environmental movement - so that we don't make things worse.

Do you know how we make things worse? Carry on doing what we're doing. I don't want to speak out of turn, but i'm guessing none of us on the forum work in climate science, green tech/renewables. I agree we need a plan, but I think it's unfair to expect normal folks to have the answers. Obviously fossil fuels is a killer, and probably the most difficult thing to address as the oil companies have so much power.

I read something a few weeks back that said these companies were aware of the damage they were doing to the climate/environment back in the 70's but swept it under the carpet.

[The Slim Reaper]

Couldn't she write a book instead of taking up all our news time?

Do you honestly believe that humans who have been on this planet for, what? A few thousand years? can some how save the Planet (which as been here for billions of years) from itself?

Don't worry, the planet will see us humans off before we ever save it from itself.

I think modern humans have been on the planet for around 100,000-250,000 years, although maybe the bible was right and we've only been here a few thousand.

[Alf]

I think modern humans have been on the planet for around 100,000-250,000 years, although maybe the bible was right and we've only been here a few thousand.Whatever it is, it comes nowhere close to billions.

What has this planet had to endure in all that time? All sorts. Floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, volcano's, magnetic storms, bombardment by commits and asteroids. And us humans think we're gonna destroy it with a plastic bottle or a straw.

And yes, I stole most of that of George Carlin.

[The Slim Reaper]

Whatever it is, it comes nowhere close to billions.

What has this planet had to endure in all that time? All sorts. Floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, volcano's, magnetic storms, bombardment by commits and asteroids. And us humans think we're gonna destroy it with a plastic bottle or a straw.

And yes, I stole most of that of George Cahlin.

Then at least spell the great mans name correctly!

For most of the earths history, the atmosphere would have been uninhabitable to our species. It's not quite as simple as you make it sound, but you can read about it if you want to look it up.

[Alf]

Then at least spell the great mans name correctly!

For most of the earths history, the atmosphere would have been uninhabitable to our species. It's not quite as simple as you make it sound, but you can read about it if you want to look it up.You will see I did realise that and edited his name.

[The Slim Reaper]

You will see I did realise that and edited his name.

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[Oliver_W]

She should respect her elders ..not shout at them.
The environment is something everyone should be shouting about. Why does it take a girl with braids and Asperger's speaking in her second language to get world leaders to address it?

I wish there were more like her, especially compared to idiots who think blocking roads and flying drones is going to help their cause.

[Alf]

The environment is something everyone should be shouting about. Why does it take a girl with braids and Asperger's speaking in her second language to get world leaders to address it?

I wish there were more like her, especially compared to idiots who think blocking roads and flying drones is going to help their cause.What exactly are we supposed to be shouting?

Are we to walk around with sandwich boards saying "The end is nigh" strapped to us? Because I don't fancy doing that.

[Oliver_W]

What exactly are we supposed to be shouting?

Are we to walk around with sandwich boards saying "The end is nigh" strapped to us? Because I don't fancy doing that.

God knows. I come from basically everything from a conservationist viewpoint - stop knocking trees down, keep our farms and green spaces intact, etc.

[Tom4784]

She should respect her elders ..not shout at them.

Respect is earned and you don't earn respect by ****ing over future generations for money. She has every right to drag the world leaders, the science is there and it's irrefutable but there's too many deeply stupid people in positions of power and those that support them who will believe in fairy tales before they believe in science that speaks an uncomfortable truth.

Age does not bring wisdom and you should never respect scum just because they are old.

[bots]

People seem to forget that when the phrase "respect your elders" was first used, life expectancy was around 35 years old. By those definitions, the young lady is middle aged.

[Twosugars]

Fox News has apologized after a guest criticized the teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg as a “mentally ill Swedish child”.

[Tom4784]

Fox News has apologized after a guest criticized the teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg as a “mentally ill Swedish child”.

The right wing continue to act like a bigger child than the child they're talking about.

[Twosugars]

For some reason the kid pushes rightwing nutters' buttons
Heres another example

The channel has not commented on Laura Ingraham’s attack on Thunberg.

Ingraham used her show The Ingraham Angle to suggest, incorrectly, that Thunberg wanted people to “cede control of our economy, our way of life, our way of transport, how many children you want to have, and if we don’t go along, we will be punished by our own children.

“Does anyone else find that chilling?” Ingraham said.

“I can’t wait for Stephen King’s sequel, Children of the Climate.”

King’s fictional story The Children of the Corn focuses on a group of children in a remote town who believe anyone over the age of 19 should be killed.

Curtis Ingraham, Laura Ingraham’s brother, swiftly criticized his sister, suggesting that her rightwing pronouncements were motivated by financial gain.

He said: “Clearly my sister’s paycheck is more important than the world her three adopted kids will inherit.

“I can no longer apologize for a sibling who I no longer recognize. I can and will continue to call out the monstrous behavior and the bully commentary born out of anger.”
The Guardian

[Beso]

The right wing continue to act like a bigger child than the child they're talking about.

Oh...an instant label for the poor caller to burden...a bit like the Jews during the last century with the nazis

[arista]

Who Cares about Ingraham

[Twosugars]

Respect is earned and you don't earn respect by ****ing over future generations for money. She has every right to drag the world leaders, the science is there and it's irrefutable but there's too many deeply stupid people in positions of power and those that support them who will believe in fairy tales before they believe in science that speaks an uncomfortable truth.

Age does not bring wisdom and you should never respect scum just because they are old.

Well said. No respect to old scum.
Donnie springs to mind for some reason :hee:

[arista]

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[Alf]

1176563005267615745Can't she walk on water?

Moses could split the sea to make himself a pathway through it, doesn't she have that power?

[arista]

Can't she walk on water?


No its a long way across a Rough Ocean,

[Beso]

Build a raft made out of turtle guts...see if it floats..


If it does, shes right, if it don't. ...


She's a witch.

[Toy Soldier]

It's fascinating, really, being alive in what's most likely the last few hundred years of humanity. I think fighting for the environment is noble... Sadly I also think its ultimately pointless.

There are too many of us. Too many humans. We can't continue to exist at this level without destroying the planet. No amount of campaigning nor environmental initiatives will change that.

Either there's a massive drop in human population, or the planet dies within the next few centuries. Pick one. There is no secret option number 3.

[James]

I think the only answer to climate change is new technology.

The population is only going to increase, and as poorer countries become more developed they output more CO2.

People in the richer countries don't want to hurt their economies or radically alter their way of life, and we don't want to put a halt to human progress.

New technology that reduces carbon emissions, and adapting to change is the only realistic path to take, in my opinion.

[The Slim Reaper]

I think the only answer to climate change is new technology.

The population is only going to increase, and as poorer countries become more developed they output more CO2.

People in the richer countries don't want to hurt their economies or radically alter their way of life, and we don't want to put a halt to human progress.

New technology that reduces carbon emissions, and adapting to change is the only realistic path to take, in my opinion.

I agree with that, but when the Oil companies control the dialogue (by paying for politicians), then it's nigh on impossible.

[Toy Soldier]

I think the only answer to climate change is new technology.

The population is only going to increase, and as poorer countries become more developed they output more CO2.

People in the richer countries don't want to hurt their economies or radically alter their way of life, and we don't want to put a halt to human progress.

New technology that reduces carbon emissions, and adapting to change is the only realistic path to take, in my opinion.The technology wouldn't be available, affordable or desirable where its needed - in the emerging industrial economies with rocketing populations. It's a sticking plaster on your skinned elbow when you have two broken legs.

[Beso]

Technology causes climate change imo...I have no facts, I have no proof...but the heat increase compared to the consumption of stuff that causes global warmer don't match up over the years.....imo...the only difference to the atmosphere is the amount of mobile phone data being pumped about. ...


But I have no proof, but I will stand by that thought until I'm dead.

[Twosugars]

I think the only answer to climate change is new technology.

The population is only going to increase, and as poorer countries become more developed they output more CO2.

People in the richer countries don't want to hurt their economies or radically alter their way of life, and we don't want to put a halt to human progress.

New technology that reduces carbon emissions, and adapting to change is the only realistic path to take, in my opinion.

True.
We have to reconcile ourselves to some warming.
Population is set to reach 11 billion and stabilize and drop very slowly

New technologies are key. On the plus side, if invested and supported they could lead to economic boom I'm told.

In the meantime we must do what we can to shore up coastlines, introduce more sustainable agriculture, plant trees and rewild some land, ban single use plastic, maybe use non recyclable waste to build artificial islands if technology allows
And more.

[Alf]

Technology causes climate change imo...I have no facts, I have no proof...but the heat increase compared to the consumption of stuff that causes global warmer don't match up over the years.....imo...the only difference to the atmosphere is the amount of mobile phone data being pumped about. ...


But I have no proof, but I will stand by that thought until I'm dead.Would people be prepared to give up their phone and Internet if scientists were saying that is the cause?

A choice between saving the Planet or living the rest of your days with Internet access?

[arista]

I think the only answer to climate change is new technology.

The population is only going to increase, and as poorer countries become more developed they output more CO2.

People in the richer countries don't want to hurt their economies or radically alter their way of life, and we don't want to put a halt to human progress.

New technology that reduces carbon emissions, and adapting to change is the only realistic path to take, in my opinion.


Yes everyone needs Free Solar panels fitted
plugged into a New home and the National Grid.

China has Massive Zones of nothing but solar,
under one was a pig farm.
But Of Course China also now has Massive Coal Burners
that cancel all that good massive solar future