The Circle Discussion thread CH4 9.15pm today then 10pm nightly

[RileyH]

Y'ALL THOUGHT

[Matthew.]

Good decision Georgina

[Tony Montana]

Get Ella out!

[Matthew.]

Vote out Ella please :fc:

[Denver]

Paddy is gone

[RileyH]

COME ON georgina

[Denver]

Why is she using his disability to try save him

[DouglasS]

Get Ella out, not a fan of Paddy but he is needed to get Sammie and Georgina to the final 2 :clap1:

[RileyH]

Get Ella out, not a fan of Paddy but he is needed to get Sammie and Georgina to the final 2 :clap1:

literally!

[RileyH]

WELP Ella's safe isn't she

[Denver]

Screaming if its Paddy and she easily caved in

[Wizard.]

If Georgina didn’t stick up for herself I unstan

[Vanessa]

I think Paddy is going.

[Wizard.]

Tim is manipulator I hope he comes last

[sleleen]

Tim has made every single choice when he is influencer and barely gives the other infleuncer any chance

[starry]

Georgina is impressing me with her loyalty to COT, if she doesn't keep loyal it will be an anticlimax, but I think she's going to see Ella and explain to her. Ella knows there's a game and would understand.

Tim getting his way yet again would be a joke, and I'd wonder about producer interference.

[RileyH]

SCREAMING

[Tony Montana]

Yessssss.

[LukeB]

Yassssss Georgina!!!!! that's how you play this game :worship:

[Matthew.]

AHHHH she did it :love:

[Denver]

Anyway

[Barry.]

Anyway

You are angry lol.

[Denver]

Sammie will screw her over and she deserves it

[LukeB]

You are angry lol.

:fan:

[RileyH]

omg shut up ella

[Denver]

Ill stan Georgina if she turns on Sammie

[starry]

Ella is just being stupid now.

[Withano]

Georgina, Sammie and paddy are *****, fyt me

[RileyH]

Aww I lowkey feel bad for Ella, she didn't deserve that :(

Definitely preferred her to Tim / Woody

[Denver]

I now seeing Sammie finishing Last after 3 people now know the truth

[LukeB]

Georgina, Sammie and paddy are *****, fyt me

Paddy is

but Sammie has literally made this week :shrug: it's literally be meh and predicable until Sammie did COT.

[RileyH]

Georgina, Sammie and paddy are *****, fyt me

bore off x

[Denver]

Georgina, Sammie and paddy are *****, fyt me

Tea

[sleleen]

Aww I lowkey feel bad for Ella, she didn't deserve that :(

Definitely preferred her to Tim / Woody

Tea

[Denver]

Why is he getting naked

[Denver]

How anyone can stan a man who takes pleasure in other peoples unhappiness shows their true character

[RileyH]

AHHH his victory dance :love:

[Barry.]

Why is he getting naked

Who's getting naked? We are watching law and order now?

[Withano]

Paddy is

but Sammie has literally made this week :shrug: it's literally be meh and predicable until Sammie did COT.

COT are like the villains, but they end up winning and I am fuming. Bitchy snakey *****.

[RileyH]

Georgina & Sammie finalists :love:

[sleleen]

Georgina can totally win?

[LukeB]

COT are like the villains, but they end up winning and I am fuming. Bitchy snakey *****.

Because THEY played a game on a game show.

[Denver]

COT are like the villains, but they end up winning and I am fuming. Bitchy snakey *****.

It says a lot about people wanting horrible people to hurt good people

[Denver]

I hope they fix it for Woody

[Barry.]

It says a lot about people wanting horrible people to hurt bad people

That makes sense.

[Tony Montana]

Georgina & Sammie finalists :love:

We love the final 2.

[RileyH]

Georgina is gonna WIN <33

[DouglasS]

How anyone can stan a man who takes pleasure in other peoples unhappiness shows their true character

This is very extreme

[Vanessa]

Wait until they meet face to face. This will be fun for Sammie :hehe:

[Denver]

That makes sense.

I have no interest in what you have to say and never have, you just love to attempt to bait

[Barry.]

Woody doesn't need to win tbh. But he's getting the fan favourite vote.

[Denver]

At least Tim i gonna win and Sammie will be last

[Barry.]

I have no interest in what you have to say and never have, you just love to attempt to bait

Lol coming from you hypocrite.

[Wizard.]

Georgina to win she would slay at BBUS x

[Denver]

Lol coming from you hypocrite.

I could pull up a list of quotes where you have randomly attacked me

[LukeB]

We love the final 2.

I think final 2 could be Tim and Georgina.

[Barry.]

I could pull up a list of quotes where you have randomly attacked me

How have I attacked you. Pulling teeth now

[Denver]

We love the final 2.

How is Sammie getting final 2 when 3 people know he is fake?

[Withano]

Last year, the finalists gave 50k to their fave and the public gave 50k to their fave

If it’s done the same way, I think Georgina and Woodie will take 50k each

[RileyH]

Omg imagine Georgina winning :love: Being last in the first ratings to top of the last ones :love: An arc! :love:

[Denver]

Anyway if its like last year they will all rate tactically

[LukeB]

Last year, the finalists gave 50k to their fave and the public gave 50k to their fave

If it’s done the same way, I think Georgina and Woodie will take 50k each

the public fav got 25k not 50k

[LukeB]

Omg imagine Georgina winning :love: Being last in the first ratings to top of the last ones :love: An arc! :love:

THE real underdog.

[Tony Montana]

I think final 2 could be Tim and Georgina.

Tim's had such an easy ride this whole time it wouldn't surprise me if he's in the final 2. :bored:

[Barry.]

I doubt Tim will win.

[Wizard.]

No I think apart from Woody the COT are rating Tim last

It’ll be

Georgina / Sammie
Tim
Paddy
Woody

[DouglasS]

Georgina or Tim will win it looks like?

Woody and Paddy aren’t looking likely

[Denver]

No I think apart from Woody the COT are rating Tim last

It’ll be

Georgina / Sammie
Tim
Paddy
Woody

Did you just watch? Georgina is clearly having second thoughts about Sammie and wont vote him high

[Denver]

Paddy is the most undeserving finalist in RTV ever

[Barry.]

Georgina or Tim will win it looks like?

Woody and Paddy aren’t looking likely

Woody will win the viewers vote I think.

[Ross.]

Omg imagine Georgina winning :love: Being last in the first ratings to top of the last ones :love: An arc! :love:

My queen :love:

[Denver]

Also James is so vile how does he have fans?

He runs about with happiness everytime someone is blocked, Has clear anger issues and is very nasty about people

[Barry.]

Also James is so vile how does he have fans?

He runs about with happiness everytime someone is blocked, Has clear anger issues and is very nasty about people

That's the game though. Don't you watch?

[Twosugars]

The nasty alliance winning.

Gone off Georgina

Glad it is ending

[LukeB]

The nasty alliance winning.

Gone off Georgina

Glad it is ending

how is it nasty :facepalm: you still don't get it's a game do you?

[Denver]

That's the game though. Don't you watch?

It is not the game, Alex won and was neither of those things

[RileyH]

The nasty alliance winning.

Gone off Georgina

Glad it is ending

and it's ending with Georgina as the winner so get with it babe x

[Twosugars]

Georgina will feel pretty stupid when she sees sammie

[Denver]

Also having another catfish win will just see about 80% of next series being catfish

[LukeB]

Also having another catfish win will just see about 80% of next series being catfish

and:shrug: they are more entertaining

[Denver]

and:shrug: they are more entertaining

Not one catfish has been entertaining this year

[LukeB]

Not one catfish has been entertaining this year

Jay
Joyce
Josh (because it was messy)
Sammie

so..

[RileyH]

Not one catfish has been entertaining this year

Jay & Joyce literally exist

[RileyH]

well they don't really exist

[Twosugars]

how is it nasty :facepalm: you still don't get it's a game do you?


For the hundredth time, I get the game, I supported kate last year.

It's all about how you play it. Sammie is nasty the way he does it, perodt

[RileyH]

but u get t'point x

[Matthew.]

Jay & Joyce literally exist

well they don't really exist

:laugh2:

[Denver]

For the hundredth time, I get the game, I supported kate last year.

It's all about how you play it. Sammie is nasty the way he does it, perodt

If it was a fat old man pretending to be Sammie i bet nobody would support him

[LukeB]

For the hundredth time, I get the game, I supported kate last year.

It's all about how you play it. Sammie is nasty the way he does it, perodt

but you don't get it's the game though:shrug: most of the uk don't get tactical/logic/manipulation game play so it's understanding that you don't:shrug:

Sammie is not hurting anyone, he isn't being mean he was trying to get rid of the popular players to win 100k. manipulation is needed and it's not bad either.

[Twosugars]

The only hope is Georgina wont rate sammie first.

I hope the message from home and chat with ella give her something to think about

[Denver]

but you don't get it's the game though:shrug: most of the uk don't get tactical/logic/manipulation game play so it's understanding that you don't:shrug:

Sammie is not hurting anyone, he isn't being mean he was trying to get rid of the popular players to win 100k. manipulation is needed and it's not bad either.

he isnt being mean?

Why does he take joy in each blocking?
Why does he call people names?
why is he rude about people?

[DouglasS]

Also James is so vile how does he have fans?

He runs about with happiness everytime someone is blocked, Has clear anger issues and is very nasty about people

He has not showed having anger issues at all

[Denver]

He has not showed having anger issues at all
You clearly have nt been watching

[Twosugars]

but you don't get it's the game though:shrug: most of the uk don't get tactical/logic/manipulation game play so it's understanding that you don't:shrug:

Sammie is not hurting anyone, he isn't being mean he was trying to get rid of the popular players to win 100k. manipulation is needed and it's not bad either.

That's why I dont watch bbus

Have no time for this ****, life is grim enough


Kate showed last year it can be done with class.

[Denver]

I dont understand why people think you have to be ruthless and horrible to play the game?

[DouglasS]

You clearly have nt been watching

You clearly haven’t been. He’s been manipulative but he’s not shown having anger issues at all.. you are clearing just upset and throwing your toys out the COT / pram, by insulting him and all his fans because you didn’t get the result you want. Perhaps you are seeing your own problems rather than SammieS and projecting?

[LukeB]

he isnt being mean?

Why does he take joy in each blocking?
Why does he call people names?
why is he rude about people?

No:shrug: because it's not him and it gets him closer to the final because he is playing a game to win, god forbid anyone doing that and calling Tim an idiot is hardly nasty. It's all game talk:shrug:

[LukeB]

That's why I dont watch bbus

Have no time for this ****, life is grim enough


Kate showed last year it can be done with class.

People play it differently and there's nowt wrong with that:shrug: none of this was personal it was all tactical.

[Twosugars]

I dont understand why people think you have to be ruthless and horrible to play the game?

Exactly.



Sammie is not a nice person, that's the reason why he is getting hate online.
I dont approve of people making death threats to him or family
But brits generally dont like bad sportsmanship so not surprised hes not liked

[LukeB]

Exactly.



Sammie is not a nice person, that's the reason why he is getting hate online.
I dont approve of people making death threats to him or family
But brits generally dont like bad sportsmanship so not surprised hes not liked

They don't like him because like you they don't get logic/tactical game play and say it's nasty when really it's not.

[Wizard.]

He’s played a blinding game you all just jealous cause you can’t pretend to be a single mum and win 100k

[Denver]

He’s played a blinding game you all just jealous cause you can’t pretend to be a single mum and win 100k

Lets not pretend you only like him based on looks

[DouglasS]

Exactly.



Sammie is not a nice person, that's the reason why he is getting hate online.
I dont approve of people making death threats to him or family
But brits generally dont like bad sportsmanship so not surprised hes not liked

He’s being tactical and playing a great game. He’s made the show interesting. I’d much rather watch Sammie than I would Brookes / Paddys who offer very little

I actually liked Ella when everyone on here didn’t, I didn’t dislike her or want her gone, I just found it exciting and good TV. Had Ella won I wouldn’t had minded

[RileyH]

you are clearing just upset and throwing your toys out the COT

:joker:

[Matthew.]

I agree, Sammie has played a fantastic game and has been entertaining imo. I like everyone that remains but I would like Sammie to win most out of everyone.

[Denver]

Also if Sammie wins i bet he gives no money to the actual woman

[LukeB]

America loves Sammie because they are use to people manipulation and doing game moves to win the show like Survivor.

Sammie was trying to get rid of Ella because she was popular and it was a great move to create an alliance. It was never personal.

[DouglasS]

Also if Sammie wins i bet he gives no money to the actual woman

Why should he? He used a random woman’s photos who gave him permission. The win is all down to him

[Denver]

Actually i think if they are catfishing a random person they never met they should be made to give them money

[LukeB]

Also if Sammie wins i bet he gives no money to the actual woman

She gets some of that anyway so he doesn't need to.

[DouglasS]

Actually i think if they are catfishing a random person they never met they should be made to give them money

This is ridiculous now

[Matthew.]

America loves Sammie because they are use to people manipulation and doing game moves to win the show like Survivor.

Sammie was trying to get rid of Ella because she was popular and it was a great move to create an alliance. It was never personal.

Yeah, I was thinking the same the other day, those of us on the forum that enjoy Sammie tend to be those of us that watch BBUS/Survivor/The Challenge, whereas the people that seem to be against Sammie on here don’t watch those as far as I’m aware? (Correct me if I’m wrong) So we’re used to this kind of gameplay.

I remember when I watched my first series of BBUS and I thought one of the main gameplayers was a right nasty piece of work, but looking back, he was playing the game and there was never any malice there at all.

[starry]

COT are like the villains, but they end up winning and I am fuming. Bitchy snakey *****.

Tim is the biggest villain.

[Denver]

This is ridiculous now

You might like to use peoples pictures for free but its not morally right to give them nothing

[Denver]

Also why has nobody discussed the taunting in the goodbye chats?

[DouglasS]

You might like to use peoples pictures for free but its not morally right to give them nothing

Yes it is because they give permission to the show and likely collect a fee to do so. How is it morally unacceptable? They earn money and just give away a face picture

[starry]

That's why I dont watch bbus

Have no time for this ****, life is grim enough


Kate showed last year it can be done with class.

It can be done like last year when there's a gullible showmance partner like Dan and there's only 4 originals left towards the end with none of the newbies making any real connections.

I thought Tim was the most snakey this year.

[LukeB]

Yeah, I was thinking the same the other day, those of us on the forum that enjoy Sammie tend to be those of us that watch BBUS/Survivor/The Challenge, whereas the people that seem to be against Sammie on here don’t watch those as far as I’m aware? (Correct me if I’m wrong) So we’re used to this kind of gameplay.

I remember when I watched my first series of BBUS and I thought one of the main gameplayers was a right nasty piece of work, but looking back, he was playing the game and there was never any malice there at all.

You are absolutely correct.

I read the other day that americans didn't get it when it happened on the first season of Survivor, they thought the alliance thing was cheating but they quickly understood it though. Same won't happen in the uk.

[Denver]

At least Woody is the only one staying in the public eye

[starry]

Also why has nobody discussed the taunting in the goodbye chats?

If you mean the secret message that Ella was bitter over it wasn't a taunt, it was a message of encouragement to Paddy. It was cool.

[Morgan.]

Omg I’m so thrilled

[LukeB]

Omg I’m so thrilled

Same
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[Matthew.]

At least Woody is the only one staying in the public eye

I think you’ll find Cougar Jan is meant to appear on Ellen on Monday

[Morgan.]

Final prediction;

Georgina: Paddy > Sammie > Tim > Woody
Sammie: Georgina > Paddy > Tim > Woody
Paddy: Sammie > Georgina > Tim > Woody
Tim: Woody > Georgina > Paddy > Sammie
Woody: Tim > Georgina > Paddy > Sammie

Leaving the scores at;

Georgina - 13
Paddy - 11
Tim - 10
Sammie - 9
Woody - 7

And Georgilegend wins!

[Morgan.]

Same
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Who’s not winning The Circle? Woody and Tim!

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[Denver]

Final prediction;

Georgina: Paddy > Sammie > Tim > Woody
Sammie: Georgina > Paddy > Tim > Woody
Paddy: Sammie > Georgina > Tim > Woody
Tim: Woody > Georgina > Paddy > Sammie
Woody: Tim > Georgina > Paddy > Sammie

Leaving the scores at;

Georgina - 13
Paddy - 11
Tim - 10
Sammie - 9
Woody - 7

And Georgilegend wins!

Georgina will vote Sammie last after realising Ella is not fake like Sammie claimed, she will trust her word

[rusticgal]

Omg I’m so thrilled


Me too...:cheer2:

[Glenn.]

Well well well

It’s a shame Ella went but it was needed. Great bit of gameplay there.

[Black Dagger]

At least Woody is the only one staying in the public eye

He will fade back into irrelevance and behind his parents.

[Glenn.]

Do the players decide the winner?
What’s the people’s winner about and is there any relevance?

[Denver]

He will fade back into irrelevance and behind his parents.

Zoe is a BBC darling and will get him all over the BBC

[rusticgal]

Also if Sammie wins i bet he gives no money to the actual woman


He will give it to his mum who has been a single mum and he wants to repay her for all she has done....Sammie has been brilliant. He was right about Ella switching from one bestie to another..I think maybe she’s genuine but she played people by calling them her bestie...
Sammie is playing the game that is there to be won by ‘playing the game’ and he has done well. Tim has been very manipulative and never liked people calling out his favourites. Georgina did well to convince him to get Ella out.
It’s a game...and Sammie has played it well..I hope he wins but I think Georgina may win...but I would be happy with that.

[Morgan.]

Do the players decide the winner?
What’s the people’s winner about and is there any relevance?

The players pick the actual winner, who gets the 100k.

Peoples winner is basically where the public vote for their favourite out of the finalists, and theyre awarded a smaller prize (25k last year) for that.

Although the people’s winner vote hasn’t opened yet so they might not be doing it??

[rionablue]

OMG sorry I meant to get on the forum earlier but I was enthralled by tonights show. I was absolutely CERTAIN Georgina was on her way to Paddy to tell him he was blocked. EVERY time Tim has been influencer and there have been alot of those he has commanded the final decision. Georgie girl swayed it tonight. I DONT know how she did it but I am thrilled. I quite liked Ella in the end but it was good to see that TIM could NOT force his view on Georgina.

James has played a brilliant game. It is because of him Georginas popularity has increased so much as with his alliance he got her up the ratings. She has only been influencer once and now was her time to shine. I really hope she sticks with her alliance even after what Ella said. There is no doubt that Woody will get the public vote. I would be most surprised if he doesnt and there is a very good chance our Georgie might just sway the win. I really hope so. She has been honest and true to herself since the very start and my favourite also

[Morgan.]

Also having another catfish win will just see about 80% of next series being catfish

The producers aren’t just gonna cast everyone as catfish - they know hoe to evenly distribute them so it’s not in your face.

Idk if you knew it, but it’s not like TiBB games where they just cast the first 10 people that are interested ... :joker:

[Morgan.]

I really wanna see a clip of Georgina managing to convince Tim to block Ella.

[Black Dagger]

Zoe is a BBC darling and will get him all over the BBC

Gosh yes. Can't wait for him to be a rolling presenter on The One Show x

[Morgan.]

Woody wouldn’t even be a good presenter lmao he’d be ironically wooden

[Glenn.]

Woody is a total bore lmao I can’t wait for him to disappear off my telly

[Morgan.]

If he does anything after this the most it’ll be is like a celeb gogglebox with Tim and Ella

[Denver]

His mum is THE Zoe Ball, the world is his oyster

[Black Dagger]

She's got a breakfast show on radio 2 that people have deserted in their droves because she's a charisma vacuum luv.

[Denver]

She is the greatest ever SCD contestant and has hosted the side show and main show, she is a national treasure

[Denver]

Bobby, Zoe, Woody 3 generations of national treasures :love:

[Maxxie.]

If he does anything after this the most it’ll be is like a celeb gogglebox with Tim and Ella

More likely with his mum and/or dad no?

[Morgan.]

She is the greatest ever SCD contestant and has hosted the side show and main show, she is a national treasure

And then had half her shows replaced by Rylan

[Morgan.]

More likely with his mum and/or dad no?

Also a possibility

[Maxxie.]

I’ve estimated that Paddy’s going to actually win as Georgina & James will probably both vote him first and Tim and Woody will both vote him 2nd or 3rd.

What happens if its a draw?

[Denver]

I hope the Producers fix it for Woody

[Mitchell]

I don’t get why woody deserves it less cos his parents have money, he works in a pub ffs

[Maxxie.]

I don’t get why woody deserves it less cos his parents have money, he works in a pub ffs

:clap1: Sadly I can only see him maybe winning the public vote if there is one, he has no chance of winning the actual thing and he’ll probably end up coming 5th.

[Maxxie.]

What happens if the circle vote is a draw?

[Denver]

I don’t get why woody deserves it less cos his parents have money, he works in a pub ffs

Because his haters a horrible people who dont have happiness in their lives

[Wizard.]

The only good thing Woody has done all series is show his feet

[LukeB]

No one hates Woody....

[Wizard.]

I actually like all of them, except maybe Paddy, and I didn’t like Ella but I did feel bad for her tonight. Georgina’s the only one who I can’t find a negative for

[Twosugars]

Woody will win viewers vote. To me that's far more important than who the clique decides to crown.

It would be hilarious if paddy won though

All I hope for is that sammie doesn't

[GoldHeart]

Love him or hate him i'm glad Sammi is IN the final just for the showdown meeting with them all that we'll see tomorrow :joker: .

It's going to be even more of a shock than Kate & Dan last year . The players jaws will drop when they see who Sammi really is ! .

Wasn't a fan of all of Sammi's game plan and manipulation tactics, but i'm glad Ella has gone. Georgina is the last girl standing :clap1: .

[MB.]

Zoe is a BBC darling and will get him all over the BBC

That's the precise definition of nepotism hun

[Raxton]

We might get a shock winner tbh
The only votes we can guess is the one from Tim & Woody
Georgina's could go either way tbh
Paddy & Sammie surely gonna go tactical like what Freddie did last year imo

[Vanessa]

Love him or hate him i'm glad Sammi is IN the final just for the showdown meeting with them all that we'll see tomorrow :joker: .

It's going to be even more of a shock than Kate & Dan last year . The players jaws will drop when they see who Sammi really is ! .

Wasn't a fan of all of Sammi's game plan and manipulation tactics, but i'm glad Ella has gone. Georgina is the last girl standing :clap1: .

Meeting face to face. This will be fun :hehe:

[Raxton]

btw no viewer champion vote this series?

[Black Dagger]

I don’t get why woody deserves it less cos his parents have money, he works in a pub ffs

I mean he deserves it less than the others for doing nothing of note all series bar some stupid whiteboard chart. He spent the last 2 weeks just being all pally with Ella and Tim. He's not interesting, he rarely will start a chat and he's coasted to the final. He's a typical Big Brother bore that gets further than they should.

[Mitchell]

I mean he deserves it less than the others for doing nothing of note all series bar some stupid whiteboard chart. He spent the last 2 weeks just being all pally with Ella and Tim. He's not interesting, he rarely will start a chat and he's coasted to the final. He's a typical Big Brother bore that gets further than they should.

And that’s fine, but there’s various arguments that he shouldn’t win it because of who his parents are, which is absolute bollocks.

[GoldHeart]

I mean he deserves it less than the others for doing nothing of note all series bar some stupid whiteboard chart. He spent the last 2 weeks just being all pally with Ella and Tim. He's not interesting, he rarely will start a chat and he's coasted to the final. He's a typical Big Brother bore that gets further than they should.

Yeah I have to agree , Woody stuck with Ella & Tim and it was usually them or other players that started chats with him. He only made an effort in the beginning when he was bottom at the ranking.

Woody is harmless but without the detective catfish board and his ornament dog "Denny" , there wouldn't be much else . But one of his highlights is getting rid of Beth & Jack :joker: .

[Twosugars]

Woody for viewers win, the only objective indicator of popularity :dance:

Catfishes back to murky waters where you belong

[starry]

Woody will win viewers vote. To me that's far more important than who the clique decides to crown.


The public vote is very dependant on the edit. Woody had a one dimensional and safe storyline. And his mother saying her listeners support him suggests she has extra influence because of her position.

But one of his highlights is getting rid of Beth & Jack :joker: .

The reality is most of the catfish in both seasons were useless and without prep and were just put in to be found out. Woody didn't even start with the detective thing until much later, it reminded me of Genelle suddenly finding an interesting in Dan last year. He needed some storyline.

[Twosugars]

Georgina will feel pretty stupid when she realizes she got rid of her friend ella bc a catfish told her to

[starry]

Georgina will feel pretty stupid when she realizes she got rid of her friend ella bc a catfish told her to

Ella was voting Woody to win.

[Twosugars]

The public vote is very dependant on the edit. Woody had a one dimensional and safe storyline. And his mother saying her listeners support him suggests she has extra influence because of her position.


Idc about his "storyline" bc I dont apply criteria of a fictional story to real people
I'm judging them of who I'd like as a friend, who is a kind person. And that sure as hell wouldn't be sammie

It always baffles me when people judge contestants in rtv as if they were fictional characters. They are not. Sooner or later they start being themselves bc they cant keep up the facade. So I judge them for who they are.

[rionablue]

I mean he deserves it less than the others for doing nothing of note all series bar some stupid whiteboard chart. He spent the last 2 weeks just being all pally with Ella and Tim. He's not interesting, he rarely will start a chat and he's coasted to the final. He's a typical Big Brother bore that gets further than they should.

Well said. I totally and utterly agree and he rates Georgina bottom or nearly at the bottom as if she doesnt even matter

[Raxton]

I mean he deserves it less than the others for doing nothing of note all series bar some stupid whiteboard chart. He spent the last 2 weeks just being all pally with Ella and Tim. He's not interesting, he rarely will start a chat and he's coasted to the final. He's a typical Big Brother bore that gets further than they should.

Well the same thing could be said for all of them except Sammie & Tim

[starry]

Idc about his "storyline" bc I dont apply criteria of a fictional story to real people
I'm judging them of who I'd like as a friend, who is a kind person. And that sure as hell wouldn't be sammie

It always baffles me when people judge contestants in rtv as if they were fictional characters. They are not. Sooner or later they start being themselves bc they cant keep up the facade. So I judge them for who they are.

We hardly know them really, the airtime isn't that big. And they are put in a very usual situation, either the environment or having to make stuff up. I've no doubt that everyone would prefer to go in as themselves, but the producers will obviously want some to play catfish, or to make up some stuff to make the show more interesting.

Also it's an entertainment show. I may find someone on reality tv very likeable in their way but also not very interesting where the game is concerned. Sy seems a nice guy but he didn't really light things up, not many people probably wanted him in the final.

[GrandMasterFox]

Just caught up to the last two episodes.


First, I think it's safe to guess that this year, there would be no public voting.
I mean come on, that would be completely absurd and unfair.

Normally, when shows give public voting, your friends and family will rally up behind you - which is perfectly understandable.

But when both your parents have a social media following that is far larger than all other players' family and friends combined... Yeah... that's absurd.

Woody would win this no matter what - regardless if he actually deserves that or not. It's just not a fair thing for everyone.

If, on the other hand, they would have rounded up say 100 random people or something and asked them to rate them family feud style that might work.

But just letting the public vote is stupid.


Second, I liked things heating up, but man does it feel like production is really trying to manipulate things. Like setting up the ratings super early so the alliance can't talk to each other in advance?

And why did they both get to "suddenly" save one person each? How come this didn't happen last time?
Seriously, without that save, Sammie would be out the door asap.

And why did Georgina get to go and see Ella? Why didn't Ella get to pick who she wants to see? Obviously to get them to talk and make sure Georgina has conflicted feelings - otherwise the finale is pointless.

Just feels a bit too obvious they are changing things as they go along.




Honestly, this is a game. People need to calm down. I suggest that people who try to assume how much "vile" some contestants are, they should read up a bit about the behind the scenes.

Alex (last year's winner) does some youtube videos talking about the stuff you don't see. Short version : The conditions they live in there are terrible and would get anyone mad. There's a reason why they have a therapist on call 24\7 so that at point someone has a breakdown they can help them out.
And they did. He said they had to talk him out of leaving several times and it seems that others did the same.

So the reasons people constantly shout, scheme, cry or whatever is more of the result of the conditions than anything else.
Well, that and editing of course.




As far as the finale goes, it's a bit weird. To be honest, I thought the only person who really deserves to win just left the show - Ella.

Georgina and Paddy are too passive. They are pushover pawns and never instigate anything.

Sammie tries to play a good game, but he's actually terrible at it. He doesn't have a chance to win the game. Tim and Woody would rank him the lowest.
Classic mistake.
All of his talk only helped Georgina and Paddy having a shot of winning but he himself has 0% chance of winning. Hence his game is dumb. It's not like he cares about either of them that I would say it's an acceptable move.
Even Ella figured him out in 5 seconds and already alerted Georgina.

Plus, he really lost his catfish game. How the heck can you be so careless as not to mention Charlie in the video?

Tim tries to play a good game but honestly, he clearly alienates players as he goes along. He really should have given Georgina a better reason for blocking Brooke.

Woody... oh boy Woody... Nice kid but he is completely dense. Actually shares the same issue with Tim - They are too stupid to spend their time trying to figure out catfishes.
Umm... Why? The Catfish can vote just like everyone else.

Thus my point on the only one really deserving to win is the one who actually understood that - Ella.

Ella was the only smart enough to sass "Josh" out to everyone then rush to "Josh" and warn him about it. I can't believe people are talking about Ella being "honest" when she's insanely fake on that move alone.

But as far as the game is concerned? She's the smartest one in the group. She makes an effort to connect with everyone - catfish included - to get their votes.

Sammie said he was going for that, but did nothing about it.

But since Ella is out the door? I guess next best one is Georgina.
People say that Brooke's goodbye hurt her but it's the other way around. It got her to start playing the game.

It's too little but apparently not too late.


Final prediction;

Georgina: Paddy > Sammie > Tim > Woody
Sammie: Georgina > Paddy > Tim > Woody
Paddy: Sammie > Georgina > Tim > Woody
Tim: Woody > Georgina > Paddy > Sammie
Woody: Tim > Georgina > Paddy > Sammie

I disagree.
Tim is the only one I'd agree with. Maybe Paddy.

Sammie isn't completely stupid. He knew Georgina is likely to be an influencer hence he voted for her now. For the same logic he should put Paddy over her so she would be less likely to run past him.
Also I wouldn't put it above him to figure out that he might be better off putting Woddy at the top. Enough vote splitting not to put him at a shot of winning but prevents other COT members from getting to the top.

Woody may or may not completely turn around. I don't think Woody would put Georgina over Paddy. He barely talks to her and she did kick Ella out. He might also be upset with Tim.

Georgina is a complete wildcard here.
If she realizes that Catfish, Sammie could be lowest for her.
If she doesn't, she could put Sammie first for getting her there.


Overall, I don't think Sammie or Woody have any shot of winning.
Georgina seems like most likely winner with... Oddly enough... Paddy being second? Guess it makes sense. He isn't anyone's favorite but he is clearly the "least hated" of the group. Tim is third only if he manages to completely sway Georgina in a final chat. Which is still possible if he exposes Sammy.


P.S

Someone remind me again, why did they all pick Jan over Andrea?
Because he had looks and no personality? And she had...?

[Morgan.]

Just caught up to the last two episodes.


First, I think it's safe to guess that this year, there would be no public voting.
I mean come on, that would be completely absurd and unfair.

Normally, when shows give public voting, your friends and family will rally up behind you - which is perfectly understandable.

But when both your parents have a social media following that is far larger than all other players' family and friends combined... Yeah... that's absurd.

Woody would win this no matter what - regardless if he actually deserves that or not. It's just not a fair thing for everyone.

If, on the other hand, they would have rounded up say 100 random people or something and asked them to rate them family feud style that might work.

But just letting the public vote is stupid.


Second, I liked things heating up, but man does it feel like production is really trying to manipulate things. Like setting up the ratings super early so the alliance can't talk to each other in advance?

And why did they both get to "suddenly" save one person each? How come this didn't happen last time?
Seriously, without that save, Sammie would be out the door asap.

And why did Georgina get to go and see Ella? Why didn't Ella get to pick who she wants to see? Obviously to get them to talk and make sure Georgina has conflicted feelings - otherwise the finale is pointless.

Just feels a bit too obvious they are changing things as they go along.




Honestly, this is a game. People need to calm down. I suggest that people who try to assume how much "vile" some contestants are, they should read up a bit about the behind the scenes.

Alex (last year's winner) does some youtube videos talking about the stuff you don't see. Short version : The conditions they live in there are terrible and would get anyone mad. There's a reason why they have a therapist on call 24\7 so that at point someone has a breakdown they can help them out.
And they did. He said they had to talk him out of leaving several times and it seems that others did the same.

So the reasons people constantly shout, scheme, cry or whatever is more of the result of the conditions than anything else.
Well, that and editing of course.




As far as the finale goes, it's a bit weird. To be honest, I thought the only person who really deserves to win just left the show - Ella.

Georgina and Paddy are too passive. They are pushover pawns and never instigate anything.

Sammie tries to play a good game, but he's actually terrible at it. He doesn't have a chance to win the game. Tim and Woody would rank him the lowest.
Classic mistake.
All of his talk only helped Georgina and Paddy having a shot of winning but he himself has 0% chance of winning. Hence his game is dumb. It's not like he cares about either of them that I would say it's an acceptable move.
Even Ella figured him out in 5 seconds and already alerted Georgina.

Plus, he really lost his catfish game. How the heck can you be so careless as not to mention Charlie in the video?

Tim tries to play a good game but honestly, he clearly alienates players as he goes along. He really should have given Georgina a better reason for blocking Brooke.

Woody... oh boy Woody... Nice kid but he is completely dense. Actually shares the same issue with Tim - They are too stupid to spend their time trying to figure out catfishes.
Umm... Why? The Catfish can vote just like everyone else.

Thus my point on the only one really deserving to win is the one who actually understood that - Ella.

Ella was the only smart enough to sass "Josh" out to everyone then rush to "Josh" and warn him about it. I can't believe people are talking about Ella being "honest" when she's insanely fake on that move alone.

But as far as the game is concerned? She's the smartest one in the group. She makes an effort to connect with everyone - catfish included - to get their votes.

Sammie said he was going for that, but did nothing about it.

But since Ella is out the door? I guess next best one is Georgina.
People say that Brooke's goodbye hurt her but it's the other way around. It got her to start playing the game.

It's too little but apparently not too late.



I disagree.
Tim is the only one I'd agree with. Maybe Paddy.

Sammie isn't completely stupid. He knew Georgina is likely to be an influencer hence he voted for her now. For the same logic he should put Paddy over her so she would be less likely to run past him.
Also I wouldn't put it above him to figure out that he might be better off putting Woddy at the top. Enough vote splitting not to put him at a shot of winning but prevents other COT members from getting to the top.

Woody may or may not completely turn around. I don't think Woody would put Georgina over Paddy. He barely talks to her and she did kick Ella out. He might also be upset with Tim.

Georgina is a complete wildcard here.
If she realizes that Catfish, Sammie could be lowest for her.
If she doesn't, she could put Sammie first for getting her there.


Overall, I don't think Sammie or Woody have any shot of winning.
Georgina seems like most likely winner with... Oddly enough... Paddy being second? Guess it makes sense. He isn't anyone's favorite but he is clearly the "least hated" of the group. Tim is third only if he manages to completely sway Georgina in a final chat. Which is still possible if he exposes Sammy.


P.S

Someone remind me again, why did they all pick Jan over Andrea?
Because he had looks and no personality? And she had...?

They didn’t get pictures of them, they had blank profiles. They all took turns asking them questions and picked based on the responses.

[GrandMasterFox]

They didn’t get pictures of them, they had blank profiles. They all took turns asking them questions and picked based on the responses.
Sorry, my mistake for not being clear on that.
I was actually talking about the people in the live show. Like Katie, Sy etc

They saw the videos of Jan and Andrea.

[RileyH]

1QBah7oqSAk

[Morgan.]

1QBah7oqSAk

Wow winner of youtube

[Morgan.]

Where’s her diamond play button?

[starry]

Georgina only woke up again when COT started. Sammie had the toughest game to play, it was harder than last year with Alex. Ella was just bitter at being eliminated and that's why she spoke out against Sammie. It wasn't known that one of them (or specifically Georgina even) would go and visit Ella. Tim was bitter than Sammie challenged him running the show, and that's why he tried to undermine Sammie with Woody. It's hard to plan everything in advance, much easier outside the game in your armchair.

[Amy Jade]

Screaming reading this thread and seeing the fumes over Sammie! Actually hilarious to see people so furious over it.

Glad Georgina pushed for Ella to go. Woody and Tim coming last in the vote to win would be a scream!

[Morgan.]

Ellas face when Georgina came in the room ... I have to laugh :laugh2:

[Oliver_W]

1QBah7oqSAk

Awh I loved Brooke, I wish she made the final instead of Boregina or Paddy.

I support Sammie as a gameplayer, he's just loathsome in the way he conducts himself. I really hate that hand clicky thing he does.

[Saph]

Georgina really is the decider in this final vote, the other 4 will all vote in their pairs

[Raxton]

Georgina really is the decider in this final vote, the other 4 will all vote in their pairs

Are you sure tho?
Tim & Woody, maybe yes

Sammie & Paddy? Not really sure
Just a reminder, in season 1.. Freddie rated Sian lower than Kate

[Saph]

tbf Sammie will probably vote Georgina higher than Paddy

[GrandMasterFox]

Are you sure tho?
Tim & Woody, maybe yes

Sammie & Paddy? Not really sure
Just a reminder, in season 1.. Freddie rated Sian lower than Kate

Nope. Last year it was a 1-5 star rating.
Not ranking the people from 1st to 4th.

Freddie said he gave everyone 1 star.
As did Sian and "Kate".

Dan was the only one who gave his "friend" a higher rating.

[GrandMasterFox]

tbf Sammie will probably vote Georgina higher than Paddy

But why? He knows she's more popular than Paddy is.

[Raxton]

Nope. Last year it was a 1-5 star rating.
Not ranking the people from 1st to 4th.

Freddie said he gave everyone 1 star.
As did Sian and "Kate".

Dan was the only one who gave his "friend" a higher rating.

No, Freddie rate Kate 2, Sian 1, Dan 1
Kate rate Dan 2, Sian 1, Freddie 1
Sian rate Dan 3, Freddie 3, Kate 1 or 2 or 3 ( cant really remember )
Dan rate Kate 5, Sian 5, Freddie 4

Some people will vote tactically
Basically Freddie end up giving Kate the win with his tactical voting

[DouglasS]

tbf Sammie will probably vote Georgina higher than Paddy

I can see Paddy being tactical and going
1) paddy
2) georgina
3) woody
4) tim

As Tim keeps winning and knows paddy isn’t popular

[GrandMasterFox]

No, Freddie rate Kate 2, Sian 1, Dan 1
Kate rate Dan 2, Sian 1, Freddie 1
Sian rate Dan 3, Freddie 3, Kate 1 or 2 or 3 ( cant really remember )
Dan rate Kate 5, Sian 5, Freddie 4

Some people will vote tactically
Basically Freddie end up giving Kate the win with his tactical voting

Hmm... I double checked and you're right.

It's

Dan rated Freddie 4, Kate 5, Sian 5
Freddie rated Dan 1, Kate 2 and Sian 1
Kate/Alex rated Dan 2, Freddie 1, Sian 1
Sian rated Dan 3, Freddie 3 and Kate 2


I recall in the live finale Freddie flat out said he gave everyone 1 star.
That's odd.

[Morgan.]

I can see Paddy being tactical and going
1) paddy
2) georgina
3) woody
4) tim

As Tim keeps winning and knows paddy isn’t popular

Paddy voting himself and not giving anything to Sammie :omgno:

[RileyH]

if Paddy ****ing wins I swear to ****ing god

[Saph]

if Paddy ****ing wins I swear to ****ing god

I'd cancel my tv license

[Morgan.]

if Paddy ****ing wins I swear to ****ing god

As much as I’d hate him I’d absolutely HOWL :laugh2:

[Twosugars]

if Paddy ****ing wins I swear to ****ing god

here for Paddy winning and thus undermining the scheming sammie's scheming game :dance:

[DouglasS]

Paddy voting himself and not giving anything to Sammie :omgno:

I meant Sammie

[Raxton]

if Paddy ****ing wins I swear to ****ing god

Not gonna lie though, his chance of winning is quite high

[Raxton]

Odds with bookies
Tim 1/1
Woody 5/4
James 16/1
Georgina 16/1
Paddy 28/1

So weird...
Cant believe they put georgina & paddy so low
Those 2 have the biggest chance of winning imo

[Oliver_W]

Paddy has a chance of winning mainly because of everyone else trying to not get the others to win :joker: As much as I don't like him, that'd be fairly amusing, and if someone else "should have won" then they should either have played a better game or been more likeable!

[Jack_]

Well I'm late to the party but WHAT a series this has been :clap1: way better than last year, and I thought that'd be hard to top!

Been a relatively decent blocking order too, it was a shame to lose Jay but everyone else I wasn't too fussed on. Would definitely swap Paddy out for Ella though

also lmfao people are doing the MOST on Sammie. Unfortunately I think he's ruined any chance he had to win anyway by jeopardising his relationships, but my god has the strategy been refreshing and fun to watch! CANNOT wait for them to meet him later :joker:

Him or Tim deserve to win this :fc:

[GrandMasterFox]

LOL, I looked at Alex's video where he reviewed the videos of the original 8 players.

This was before the show aired.

Kind of hilarious to look at everything now that the finale is up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mumcF0XONzU

Also, he kind of nailed most of his predictions :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Nope. Last year it was a 1-5 star rating.
Not ranking the people from 1st to 4th.

Freddie said he gave everyone 1 star.
As did Sian and "Kate".

Dan was the only one who gave his "friend" a higher rating.

Actually Sian gave "Kate" 2 stars & I'm sure she gave Freddie 3 stars .
the 1 to 5 star system was daft ,I got fed up of tactical 1 star people were doing especially Freddie.

Alex/ Kate gave Dan 2 stars .
But yeah Dan gave everyone higher than 1 & he gave Kate 5 stars which got him to win.

[Oliver_W]

The star ratings were easier to understand, because someone would have the most and least amount of stars. Though I guess with the rankings, they basically get 1-7 stars in inverse proportion to their ranking?

[GoldHeart]

The star ratings were easier to understand, because someone would have the most and least amount of stars. Though I guess with the rankings, they basically get 1-7 stars in inverse proportion to their ranking?

At least it stops people giving everyone 1 star ,which annoyed me last year.

Especially newbies giving out 1 stars like they think their awful personality & tactics would save them :joker: :crazy:

[Twosugars]

The star ratings were easier to understand, because someone would have the most and least amount of stars. Though I guess with the rankings, they basically get 1-7 stars in inverse proportion to their ranking?

There you are Ollie. Not that difficult after all :)

[rusticgal]

Sammie deserves this more than any of them....sadly I don’t think he will.

[hijaxers]

Sammie deserves this more than any of them....sadly I don’t think he will.

Totally disagree Sammie deserves nothing. Nasty tactics !

[arista]

Tonight the Final

10PM - 11:40PM

Ch4HD

[GoldHeart]

Sammie deserves this more than any of them....sadly I don’t think he will.

I would of agreed IF he had a better game plan , he got to the final but now when he needs the high ratings this is when he's broken his own friendships without even realising he's done it :bored:.

Definitely some manipulation on the producers side , I don't think Georgina should of done a face to face blocking. There's no shock when Woody already did this with Joyce .

Georgina should of done a faceless blocking & then Ella should of just chosen who she wanted to meet. But I guess producers didn't want her meeting woody as it's not as juicy as Georgina meeting her & them both realising Sammi is suspicious :rolleyes:

I'm glad Ella has gone ,she just came across a little bitter about losing. Why can't she admit she played a game , they all want to win . She's talking rubbish about not being a game player when it's A GAME ! .

Look at how she planted seeds of doubt about Brooke , and look how she played both sides by being Josh's / buysayo's friend & then talking about her behind her back.

Everyone is a "Bestie" to her ,its all sickly sweet .

[Twosugars]

Totally disagree Sammie deserves nothing. Nasty tactics !

Well said

[starry]

Ella criticised the Joyce blocking saying a big target should have been taken out. So at that point she wanted to suggest she was ready to play the game.

[GoldHeart]

Ella criticised the Joyce blocking saying a big target should have been taken out. So at that point she wanted to suggest she was ready to play the game.

I hate the BS people spout ,if I was on the circle I'd admit I'm playing the game :shrug: :joker: it is a game after all .

But Ella acted like it was the worst sin to be accused of ,and she played Josh & Brooke & she kissed everyone's bum by calling them her "bestie " with this hippie love rubbish .

[Denver]

Please fix it for Woody

[Amy Jade]

Come on Georgina!

[T*]

Emma
Ily
But what THE FOOK IS THAT DRESS

[sleleen]

where is emelle and katie:(

[RileyH]

georgina better SNATCH

[Denver]

Woody winning at least 30k :love:

[RileyH]

Woody winning at least 30k :love:

tim will win public's fave :skull:

[Amy Jade]

Voting Georgina but the thirsty girls will vote Wooden

[Amy Jade]

Teehee bye ella

[Denver]

tim will win public's fave :skull:

Legit Woody has already won the only public vote this year

[Denver]

Paddy has a nasty attitude though

[RileyH]

Legit Woody has already won the only public vote this year

weren't they straight after the eps where Tim stanned Maggie Thatcher and snaked Brooke :skull: the public have forgotten that now and will want him to win

[Saph]

cant wait for Paddy to find out he was used by Sammie

https://media.tenor.com/images/00682b6d7ac9baf0a454ff0630f582ed/tenor.gif

[hijaxers]

Emma
Ily
But what THE FOOK IS THAT DRESS

FOOK KNOWS omg Emma sack your dresser I think she hates you.

[Denver]

Sammie wont win with no 1?

[Amy Jade]

Think paddy's going to win :laugh:

[Saph]

Paddy is gonna win isnt he :skull:

[Dogeatdog]

Think paddy's going to win :laugh:

The uproar if he does :laugh:

[RileyH]

why does paddy keep scratching his head? nits? :yuk:

[hijaxers]

Happy with anyone except Sammie

[Denver]

Paddy is gonna win isnt he :skull:

What happens when people are so desperate for horrible people to do well

[Saph]

why does paddy keep scratching his head? Nits? :yuk:

disgusting! Block him for hygiene safety now

[RileyH]

NEXT time I hear 'pozzy vibes' I will thwack the screen I s2g

[Amy Jade]

What happens when people are so desperate for horrible people to do well

:sleep:

[Dogeatdog]

why does paddy keep scratching his head? nits? :yuk:

Or bad dandruff?

[Saph]

"the house" askjfgdkjggdjk

[LukeB]

:sleep:

People still confusing gameplay for nastiness :laugh:

[Denver]

Paddy has recieved at least two 1 and one 3 so depending on what Woody gave him I think he is confirmed winner

[T*]

We heard that line on channel 4 omg

[Amy Jade]

Georgina getting Ella out has given us a nice final tbh. Had Paddy gone it'd only be between woody, Tim and her

[RileyH]

why is everyone forgetting when she despised Brooke for no reason :suspect:

[Amy Jade]

Why is ella shocked? They literally had to make an alliance to break up the obvious result

[Denver]

She is right he has no morals

[Saph]

Georgina getting Ella out has given us a nice final tbh. Had Paddy gone it'd only be between woody, Tim and her

yeah and now were gonna have ****ing paddy as a winner :skull:

[Saph]

ugh james arthur... we already have one annoying ginger on tv tonight we dont need another

[Denver]

We should have witnessed Ella throwing the immoral little **** over the table

[hijaxers]

She is right he has no morals

Said from the off he's here for the money , i wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire - not my kind of person game or no game.