View Full Version : Labour is Offering Free Education if they Win the General Election
arista
10-10-2019, 10:40 AM
Also all Prescriptions will be Free in England
He was talking Live in Northampton.
No, not free. Just bigger taxes for us to pay for it.
smudgie
10-10-2019, 10:43 AM
No, not free. Just bigger taxes for us to pay for it.
Nothing free in life Alf.
Apart from empty promises.
arista
10-10-2019, 10:45 AM
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Just a clip on the Election.
BBC say
[jeremy Corbyn pledges to end tuition fees, scrap universal credit and nationalise utilities in "alternative Queen's Speech"]
arista
10-10-2019, 11:00 AM
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arista
10-10-2019, 11:19 AM
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well can he write-off my student debt then
Nicky91
10-10-2019, 11:42 AM
you can say about Corbyn whatever you want, but he's right
and yes to free education in britain, education should be equal for everyone (which is a reason why i also support Lizzie Warren in the current u.s presidential elections)
The Slim Reaper
10-10-2019, 11:54 AM
No, not free. Just bigger taxes for us to pay for it.
Your taxes have been subsidising corporations like Amazon and starbucks that don't pay any tax at all, so someone making them pay their fair share while your taxes invest in the future of the country through education should be a good thing shouldn't it?
Twosugars
10-10-2019, 12:02 PM
No, not free. Just bigger taxes for us to pay for it.
Then they should get rid of nhs right?
The taxes would be even smaller :hehe:
Even Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell, who are both Marxists themselves know that Corbyn would be a disaster. Blair struggled to answer Andrew Neil's question yesterday, which would be worse, a Corbyn government or a no deal Brexit?
The Slim Reaper
10-10-2019, 12:34 PM
Even Tony Blair and Alistair Campbell, who are both Marxists themselves know that Corbyn would be a disaster. Blair struggled to answer Andrew Neil's question yesterday, which would be worse, a Corbyn government or a no deal Brexit?
Neither of those are marxists. Blair was basically a centre/centre right pm, being interviewed by the editor of the spectator, and you think the fact they are against Corbyn is proof of something?
I really wish you'd read Marx (or watch a documentary) about his actual opinions, rather than the Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, pragerU misinformation and lies.
Neither of those are marxists. Blair was basically a cantre/centre right pm, being interviewed by the editor of the spectator, and you think the fact they are against Corbyn is proof of something?
I really wish you'd read Marx (or watch a documentary) about his actual opinions, rather than the Jordan Peterson, Ben Shapiro, pragerU misinformation and lies.I trust Peter Hirchens opinion, and he knew them in the 70s, they told him personally that they're Marxists.
The Slim Reaper
10-10-2019, 12:46 PM
I trust Peter Hirchens opinion, and he knew them in the 70s, they told him personally that they're Marxists.
Is Hitchens still a trotskyite? No of course not, so why would you think that Blair still is a Marxist when he governed nothing like one? He has a track record we can judge him on, you don't need to rely on an opinion.
Is Hitchens still a trotskyite? No of course not, so why would you think that Blair still is a Marxist when he governed nothing like one? He has a track record we can judge him on, you don't need to rely on an opinion.Well they wouldn't have been electable if they told us the truth about themselves. Smoke and mirrors.
Hitchens has far more respect for Corbyn, because at least he's honest about what he is.
user104658
10-10-2019, 01:51 PM
Tony Blair was a neoliberal capitalist! :joker: "Marxist" indeed.
Tom4784
10-10-2019, 01:58 PM
'Tony Blair is a Marxist!'
'Alf, there's ten years of Blair's regime that says otherwise. He was basically a Tory in red.'
'No! **** your facts! I'm going to listen to someone's bull**** because they tell me what I want to hear!'
Tom4784
10-10-2019, 01:59 PM
'Tony Blair is a Marxist!'
'Alf, there's ten years of Blair's regime that says otherwise. He was basically a Tory in red.'
'No! **** your facts! I'm going to listen to someone's bull**** because they tell me what I want to hear!'
What about the UK did Blair conserve if he was a Tory in Red.
He turned us from the stiff upper lip to a nation of depressed cry babies.
He sold us out to the EU.
Denver
10-10-2019, 02:06 PM
Higher education is not a right its more of a luxury, if we dont pay for medicine then they cant afford to improve it
Marsh.
10-10-2019, 02:10 PM
Higher education is not a right its more of a luxuryt
Education should not be elitist.
The Slim Reaper
10-10-2019, 02:23 PM
What about the UK did Blair conserve if he was a Tory in Red.
He turned us from the stiff upper lip to a nation of cry babies.
He sold us out to the EU.
Wasn't Blairs stewardship the era of the lad? Oasis v Blur, loaded magazine, Everton's last trophy :smug:
Lets just say that all 3 of your points are true they aren't how does that make him Marxist?
Denver
10-10-2019, 02:24 PM
Education should not be elitist.
Im sorry but not everyone can go to Uni so why should only certain people get privileges
Wasn't Blairs stewardship the era of the lad? Oasis v Blur, loaded magazine, Everton's last trophy :smug:
Lets just say that all 3 of your points are true they aren't how does that make him Marxist?That's right, he drugged us all up. We were to busy enjoying ourselves to keep an eye on what he was upto.
The Slim Reaper
10-10-2019, 02:31 PM
That's right, he drugged us all up. We were to busy enjoying ourselves to keep an eye on what he was upto.
I heard he used to sell pills with proletariat written on them, outside ministry of sound.
I heard he used to sell pills with proletariat written on them, outside ministry of sound.Well he was in a band himself and a big fan of the Madchester scene. So more likely the Hacienda.
The Slim Reaper
10-10-2019, 02:40 PM
Well he was in a band himself and a big fan of the Madchester scene. So more likely the Hacienda.
Way too north for a politician to go.
user104658
10-10-2019, 02:53 PM
What about the UK did Blair conserve if he was a Tory in Red.
What about the UK did Thatcher conserve? Blair - like Thatcher - was a neoliberal capitalist. Whether or not either could be accurately described as "conservative" (as opposed to a Conservative) is another matter... but whether or not they were Marxist really is not a debate. Describing Blair as a Marxist is just mad.
What about the UK did Thatcher conserve? Blair - like Thatcher - was a neoliberal capitalist. Whether or not either could be accurately described as "conservative" (as opposed to a Conservative) is another matter... but whether or not they were Marxist really is not a debate. Describing Blair as a Marxist is just mad."Many of the Blairites apparatus were student Marxists who remained radical for the rest of their lives"
Peter Hitchens
Twosugars
10-10-2019, 03:07 PM
"Many of the Blairites apparatus were student Marxists who remained radical for the rest of their lives"
Peter Hitchens
That statement is all you need to know about Hitchens expertise
That statement is all you need to know about Hitchens expertiseHe's on twitter, go challenge him on his opinions. I'm sure he'd be happy to debate with you.
Twosugars
10-10-2019, 03:28 PM
He's on twitter, go challenge him on his opinions. I'm sure he'd be happy to debate with you.
Me debating a daily heil hack and a neocon? No thanks.
I have too much fun debating you
Me debating a daily heil hack and a neocon? No thanks.
I have too much fun debating youBut you never win against me, you'd have more chance against Hitchens. You're a glutton for punishment.
Twosugars
10-10-2019, 03:32 PM
But you never win against me, you'd have more chance against Hitchens. You're a glutton for punishment.
Winning against you is so easy, perfect for a lazy person like me
Withano
10-10-2019, 03:37 PM
Labour: lets tax Starbucks and help people
Tories: lets not tax Starbucks, **** people
Old people: hmm i’ll vote tories
there is no public evidence that Blair slept with prostitutes, so he couldn't have been a tory
Labour: lets tax Starbucks and help people
Tories: lets not tax Starbucks, **** people
Old people: hmm i’ll vote toriesOr to put it another way.
Labour: Let's make everybody dependent on the Government
Tories: Let's make everyone take responsibility for their own actions
UserSince2005
10-10-2019, 06:08 PM
surprised theyre not offering a free handjob from the JC himself. the things this party with promise.
Marsh.
10-10-2019, 08:50 PM
Im sorry but not everyone can go to Uni so why should only certain people get privileges
Exactly. Why should they? Uni shouldn't be elitist. Everyone should have the opportunity to get there on their merits and talent. Not be hindered by where they're from or how well or worse off their family are.
Marsh.
10-10-2019, 08:52 PM
Tories: Let's make everyone take responsibility for their own actions
:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker: The fact you actually believe this statement is hilarious.
:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker: The fact you actually believe this statement is hilarious.I aim to please.
James
11-10-2019, 02:59 PM
'Social Democrat' is probably a better way to describe Blair's politics than Marxist or Neo-Liberal.
I remember Peter Hitchens saying an interesting thing on the morning of the EU referendum result - words to the effect that the two 'parties' formed during the campaign Vote Leave and Vote Remain were a better way to divide politics now than the current political parties (generally not just on the EU).
James
11-10-2019, 03:16 PM
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As I posted in the Extinction Rebellion protest thread net-zero carbon emissions by 2030 is not possible without new technology unless there are revolutionary changes to modern life.
It's a promise that is set to be broken.
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