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A black woman was shot dead by police through her own bedroom window in the early hours of Saturday morning, after a request to check on her welfare.
Atatiana Jefferson, 28, had been living at the residence in Fort Worth, Texas with her eight-year-old nephew.
A neighbour had called a non-emergency police number after growing concerned that her front door was open at night.
Police have released body cam footage of the incident, which shows an officer shooting within seconds of seeing her.
The clip shows police searching the perimeter of the residential property, before noticing a figure at the window. After demanding the person put their hands up, an officer then fired a shot through the glass.
The Fort Worth Police Department said in a statement that the officer, who is a white man, had "perceived a threat" when he drew his weapon.
He has been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation, officials added.
The shooting happened at about 02:30 local time (07:30 GMT) on Saturday morning.
Although it is edited, the body cam footage does not appear to show the officers identifying themselves as police.
It does not show footage from inside the property but includes images of a weapon that police say they found inside the bedroom.
It is unclear if Ms Jefferson was holding a weapon at the time, but firearm possession is legal for people aged over 18 in Texas.
Police said officers provided emergency medical care to Ms Jefferson at the scene, but she was declared dead at the property.
The 28-year-old had been playing video games with her nephew before she went to investigate the noise outside the window, according to a lawyer representing her family.
"Her mom had recently gotten very sick, so she was home taking care of the house and loving her life," lawyer Lee Merritt said on Facebook. "There was no reason for her to be murdered. None. We must have justice."
Ms Jefferson was a university graduate who was working in pharmaceutical equipment sales, he added.
The shooting comes less than two weeks after an off-duty police officer was jailed for shooting a black man, Bothan Jean, dead in his own Dallas apartment less than 35 miles (55km) from Saturday's incident.
Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke, himself from Texas, has spoken out about Ms Jefferson's death.
"As we mourn with Atatiana's loved ones, we must demand accountability and promise to fight until no family has to face a tragedy like this again," he posted on Twitter.
The National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People (NAACP) labelled Ms Jefferson's death "unacceptable".
Neighbour James Smith, 62, said he had checked the property himself before calling police, but failed to spot movement inside.
"I'm shaken. I'm mad. I'm upset. And I feel it's partly my fault," Mr Smith told the Star Telegram newspaper about requesting the welfare check. "If I had never dialled the police department, she'd still be alive."
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Marsh.
13-10-2019, 05:31 PM
Someone's own front door was open so they went armed and shot someone inside?
What a ****ing bizarre country.
Marsh.
13-10-2019, 05:32 PM
"I'm shaken. I'm mad. I'm upset. And I feel it's partly my fault," Mr Smith told the Star Telegram newspaper about requesting the welfare check. "If I had never dialled the police department, she'd still be alive."
I should think so too ****ing idiot.
Twosugars
13-10-2019, 05:36 PM
I guess they checked her welfare for good :facepalm:
That country is sick
Tom4784
13-10-2019, 06:55 PM
She'd still be alive if she was white.
Mass shooters can be led away in cuffs but an unarmed black person will be shot to death where they stand 4 seconds after an instruction is issued out. Stories like this just enforce that you are not safe from the police if you are not white. The badge is rotting and every story like this furthers the decay. There needs to be an overhaul at a federal level of the police force, training methods need to be looked at as well as qualifications and aptitudes. They need to cut out this culture of cops protecting cops when they do wrong.
Every time this happens, it makes the job harder for the actual good officers and makes it impossible for them to be trusted. Something must be done.
Sounds like the person didn't put their hands up when they we're demanded to.
When an American Police man or woman asks you to cooperate, then you cooperate or face the consequences.
SherzyK
13-10-2019, 07:03 PM
Sounds like the person didn't put their hands up when they we're demanded to.
When an American Police man or woman asks you to cooperate, then you cooperate or face the consequences.
She was innocent :umm2:
Ramsay
13-10-2019, 07:03 PM
Sounds like the person didn't put their hands up when they we're demanded to.
When an American Police man or woman asks you to cooperate, then you cooperate or face the consequences.
They didn't identify as police ya silly thing
DouglasS
13-10-2019, 07:03 PM
Sounds like the person didn't put their hands up when they we're demanded to.
When an American Police man or woman asks you to cooperate, then you cooperate or face the consequences.
Seems more to this story. She was shot through her glass bedroom window? Seems very bizarre, I doubt she even heard the cop as it seems he wasn’t even in the property?
They also didn’t say they were police in the camera on top of that.
This is all very strange
She was innocent :umm2:I didn't say she wasn't. I said that you cooperate when asked to.
Amy Jade
13-10-2019, 07:04 PM
Sounds like the person didn't put their hands up when they we're demanded to.
When an American Police man or woman asks you to cooperate, then you cooperate or face the consequences.
The article literally says they demanded her hands up and shot within seconds.
The article literally says they demanded her hands up and shot within seconds.It takes less than seconds to put your hands up.
SherzyK
13-10-2019, 07:08 PM
I didn't say she wasn't. I said that you cooperate when asked to.
You just implied she isn’t because she didn’t cooperate with an officer? What kind of backwards thinking is this :bored:
GiRTh
13-10-2019, 07:09 PM
Sounds like the person didn't put their hands up when they we're demanded to.
When an American Police man or woman asks you to cooperate, then you cooperate or face the consequences.They didnt identify themselves at police and shot less than a second after giving the instruction. She was in her own property so from her point of view could have been anyone.
GiRTh
13-10-2019, 07:10 PM
It takes less than seconds to put your hands up.
They didnt identify as police. Do you take instructions off anyone whos giving them.
Come on Alf, this isnt you. Stop this
Amy Jade
13-10-2019, 07:12 PM
It takes less than seconds to put your hands up.
Not if you can't hear through a window or have just been woken up and have no idea what is going on.
You can't seriously tell me you approve of a police officer shooting seconds after making a command.
Marsh.
13-10-2019, 07:14 PM
Sounds like the person didn't put their hands up when they we're demanded to.
When an American Police man or woman asks you to cooperate, then you cooperate or face the consequences.
How dare she.... be inside her own home.
Kizzy
13-10-2019, 07:19 PM
You see ... such is the conditioning in this country that you have blind faith in anyone who professes to be a figure of authority :/
It says that the officer perceived a threat when drawing his weapon.
It also says the video footage is edited.
Tom4784
13-10-2019, 07:24 PM
It says that the officer perceived a threat when drawing his weapon.
It also says the video footage is edited.
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A lot of these murderers pretend that there's an immediate threat to their own lives when they kill. It's a defense, not justification.
This woman's only crime is apparently existing as a black person.
B3RJUMm-hd0
A lot of these murderers pretend that there's an immediate threat to their own lives when they kill. It's a defense, not justification.
This woman's only crime is apparently existing as a black person.No, that's what you want it to be. You don't even know the whole story, yet you've already convicted this officer basically for being born White.
Kizzy
13-10-2019, 07:27 PM
You hear him take the gun out and prime it as soon as the clip starts.
He asks her to put her hands up and shoots her 1 second later, there was no time to raise her hands .
She had no idea the person creeping outside the window was a police officer.
If it is edited you would've thought they wouldve edited it to make the officer to look less like he murdered this woman...not more.
Kizzy
13-10-2019, 07:30 PM
No, that's what you want it to be. You don't even know the whole story, yet you've already convicted this officer basically for being born White.
And you've suggested this innocent black woman deserved to die because she didn't do as she was told.
You hear him take the gun out and prime it as soon as the clip starts.
He asks her to put her hands up and shoots her 1 second later, there was no time to raise her hands .
She had no idea the person creeping outside the window was a police officer.
If it is edited you would've thought they wouldve edited it to make the officer to look less like he murdered this woman...not more.Why would they have edited it to make the copper look good, when there's a political campaign to strip citizens of their second ammendment? They want guns to be seen in a bad light.
And you've suggested this innocent black woman deserved to die because she didn't do as she was told.No I haven't. Don't put words in my mouth on such a thing as this. I don't wish anybody dead.
Tom4784
13-10-2019, 07:33 PM
No, that's what you want it to be. You don't even know the whole story, yet you've already convicted this officer basically for being born White.
Alf, this is the third time today that you've basically completely misread and misunderstood a post and it's getting old. I suggest you read posts multiple times before responding to it to make sure you are reading what people have actually said, not what you wanted them to say.
I'm damning this officer for not identifying themselves and shooting an innocent woman to death in her own fome before even giving her a chance to carry out their orders. I've never mentioned the race of the police officer, that is, again, you trying to shove words down my throat instead of responding to what I'm actually saying. Work on your reading comprehension, Alf, seriously.
Kizzy
13-10-2019, 07:34 PM
No I haven't. Don't put words in my mouth on such a thing as this. I don't wish anybody dead.
Sounds like the person didn't put their hands up when they we're demanded to.
When an American Police man or woman asks you to cooperate, then you cooperate or face the consequences.
arista
13-10-2019, 07:35 PM
Shocking
SherzyK
13-10-2019, 07:35 PM
No I haven't. Don't put words in my mouth on such a thing as this. I don't wish anybody dead.
But you condone the fact the officer shot her without giving her the time to react to him?
Sounds like the person didn't put their hands up when they we're demanded to.
When an American Police man or woman asks you to cooperate, then you cooperate or face the consequences.How's that wishing someone dead?
It's giving good advice that you should cooperate to when asked by an officer of the law in the USA.
Tom4784
13-10-2019, 07:36 PM
No I haven't. Don't put words in my mouth on such a thing as this. I don't wish anybody dead.
She didn't say you wished the woman dead, yet ANOTHER example of you completely disregarding what someone has said in order to go with your own narrative. You tried to accuse Kizzy of putting words in your mouth but then you tried to make out that Kizzy said you wished this woman dead. The irony.
Also, you did pretty much make out that she got what she deserved for not co-operating.
Sounds like the person didn't put their hands up when they we're demanded to.
When an American Police man or woman asks you to cooperate, then you cooperate or face the consequences.
Kizzy
13-10-2019, 07:38 PM
Why would they have edited it to make the copper look good, when there's a political campaign to strip citizens of their second ammendment? They want guns to be seen in a bad light.
I think there are better ways of doing this than having officers murder people...this also shows the police in a bad light, and you wouldn't think they would want that would you?
Kizzy
13-10-2019, 07:39 PM
How's that wishing someone dead?
It's giving good advice that you should cooperate to when asked by an officer of the law in the USA.
If they gave you more than a second to cooperate I'd agree..in this instance no.
SherzyK
13-10-2019, 07:40 PM
How's that wishing someone dead?
It's giving good advice that you should cooperate to when asked by an officer of the law in the USA.
They literally shot her a second after
I think there are better ways of doing this than having officers murder people...this also shows the police in a bad light, and you wouldn't think they would want that would you?They don't care about sacrificing one copper for their political goals.
These people will even shoot their own President in front of the viewing World, and get away with it, for their political goals.
If they gave you more than a second to cooperate I'd agree..in this instance no.But we don't know the truth yet, as we know the video is edited.
Tom4784
13-10-2019, 07:43 PM
They don't care about sacrificing one copper for their political goals.
These people will even shoot their own President in front of the viewing World, and get away with it, for their political goals.
Who are 'these people'?
Who are 'these people'?If I knew that, they'd probably kill me.
Kizzy
13-10-2019, 07:44 PM
How's that wishing someone dead?
It's giving good advice that you should cooperate to when asked by an officer of the law in the USA.
I didn't say you wished her dead.... I said deserved... she did not cooperate and the consequence of that was death.
SherzyK
13-10-2019, 07:44 PM
If I knew that, they'd probably kill me.
Therefore making your point invalid
Amy Jade
13-10-2019, 07:45 PM
It's actually sickening to see anyone defend this.
Poor woman shot in her own house through a window and it's her fault. Gross.
I didn't say you wished her dead.... you said deserved... she did not cooperate and the consequence of that was death.I didn't say deserve, I said face the consequences. They're different words with different meanings.
Tom4784
13-10-2019, 07:47 PM
But we don't know the truth yet, as we know the video is edited.
Alf, it's bodycam footage meaning that this footage came directly from the police. If it has been edited, it would have been edited favourably for the police officer involved but it hasn't and if they did cut out anything between the time the officer spoke and when he opened fire, we would have seen a noticeable jump cut but there's none to be found.
Therefore making your point invalidThat's fine, I don't mind if you think my point is invalid. Makes no difference to me.
Tom4784
13-10-2019, 07:48 PM
If I knew that, they'd probably kill me.
Imagine making out that this is all some sort of conspiracy instead of accepting what we can see with our own eyes. An unarmed woman was shot and killed in her own home by a muderous police officer who shot for no reason and gave the woman no chance to comply with his demands.
Alf, it's bodycam footage meaning that this footage came directly from the police. If it has been edited, it would have been edited favourably for the police officer involved but it hasn't and if they did cut out anything between the time the officer spoke and when he opened fire, we would have seen a noticeable jump cut but there's none to be found.You're too trusting.
Question everything.
Kizzy
13-10-2019, 07:49 PM
I didn't say deserve, I said face the consequences. They're different words with different meanings.
Ive corrected that, I said deserved....not wished.
I haven't said you wished her dead.
Elliot
13-10-2019, 08:03 PM
****ing sick world
smudgie
13-10-2019, 08:35 PM
R.I.P. to that poor lady.
Trigger happy Americans.:sad:
SherzyK
13-10-2019, 08:36 PM
Who brings a gun to a wellness check? :umm2:
Twosugars
13-10-2019, 08:38 PM
Check the police ranks for kkk members and far right sympathisers
My guess the results would be an eye opener
Barry.
13-10-2019, 10:36 PM
Who brings a gun to a wellness check? :umm2:
Don't they always bring guns in America?
SherzyK
13-10-2019, 10:45 PM
Don't they always bring guns in America?
True, but why that was a prerequisite I will never know
Mystic Mock
14-10-2019, 04:17 AM
Looking at the video it just shows that the guy really wasn't cut out for the job and that this isn't the first time that we've had the Police in America gun down one of it's civilians because they aren't trained properly to keep composure under stressful situations. He literally fires a shot about a second or two after telling her to put her hands up, he clearly should be sacked from his job at the very least imo.
RIP to the woman though, what a sad way to go, it was completely avoidable.
He was a concerned neighbour who actually called the police with her safety in mind, I can’t imagine the guilt he must feel But blaming him definitely should not be an option.
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So true what he’s saying. If you see something out of the ordinary and can’t call the police without someone being killed, what can you do?
...it’s heartbreaking to watch his anguish and his feelings of hopelessness...if people feel hesitant to call the police in times of concern, then society is completely lost...that’s how he is feeling atm...that’s why the police officer has to be held accountable for her life loss, because he is the only cause of death...so sad and so wrong and all witnessed by an 8yr old child, who will also associate ‘police protection’ with the emotional pain of loss of a loved one../..someone who protected him...
...I watched the footage, she had no time at all between the order being shouted and the shot being fired..there was no editing there, it would have been taken down from public viewing, had that been edited...the editing, I believe...was the removal of all actions after her death that were filmed inside her property...because filming inside her property would go against state law...I read that’s the only edit that was made..the footage as it stands and as it was of the shooting, has been released for transparency...
...Atatiana Jefferson cared for her 8 yr old nephew with an older relative who was in hospital at the time...?...I don’t know what impact her death will have on care arrangements, whether the older relative will be able to continue that care, whether there are other relatives who are able to offer parental care...or whether he will now be part of a state care system...
The shooting comes less than two weeks after a white former Dallas police officer was sentenced to 10 years in prison for killing her black neighbour inside his own apartment. Amber Guyger said during her trial that mistook Botham Jean's apartment for her own, which was one floor below Jean's.
Guyger, 31, was convicted of murder for Jean's September 2018 death.
AnnieK
14-10-2019, 05:57 AM
This is heartbreaking....A lady has lost her life at the hands of the Police and an 8 year old child will be traumatised for years to come... For what?
Cherie
14-10-2019, 06:39 AM
He was a concerned neighbour who actually called the police with her safety in mind, I can’t imagine the guilt he must feel But blaming him definitely should not be an option.
1183406026915110912
So true what he’s saying. If you see something out of the ordinary and can’t call the police without someone being killed, what can you do?
Horrendous event, poor guy
AnnieK
14-10-2019, 12:43 PM
No, I haven't made any judgement, I try to keep a cool head when others around me are being hysterical, I think it's for the best that somebody does.
Who's being hysterical? People are condemning a Police Officer for shooting a woman through the window of a house seconds after telling her to put her hands up. The footage is from the officer's body cam. I see no hysterics. :shrug:
Kizzy
14-10-2019, 12:54 PM
No, I haven't made any judgement, I try to keep a cool head when others around me are being hysterical, I think it's for the best that somebody does.
Your view was undeniably biased.
Tom4784
14-10-2019, 01:03 PM
I'd say it's more hysterical to deny what's in front of your eyes out of bias than it is to point out the evidence that contradicts your views.
Alf, you made out that this woman is to blame for not following instructions, the video shows that she wasn't given a chance to follow any instructions and there are NO signs of editing in the confrontation, no sudden cuts (when there definitely would have been if a segment of video that vindicated the officer was cut out). Best of all, you haven't even watched the video at all so your doubts are based on nothing but your own bias and not facts.
You're telling people who are more privvy to the facts then you are by merit of actually watching the video that they are hysterical when you are essentially jamming your fingers in your ears and going 'lalalala, I can't hear you!' when it comes to the facts.
Headie
14-10-2019, 01:33 PM
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GoldHeart
14-10-2019, 02:18 PM
Disgusting , the whole thing makes no sense :shocked:.
I have so many questions & I feel like we're never hearing the full story. But once again police behave like trigger happy idiots , and you can't help but feel if it was a white person would they still of literally gone in guns blazing :suspect: .
There was even a child in the house as well ! .
The cop has been charged with murder and "resigned" from the force
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