Abortion goes Legal in Northern Ireland 22/10/19

[arista]

From Midnight.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50115449

Westminster Forced it.

[Niamh.]

No harm

[Cherie]

Good news for women in Ni and for same sex couples, its a bit odd that Sinn Fein were welcoming a directive from Westminster though, and even odder that the assembly actually sat to try and block this when they won't sit for anything else :umm2:

[UserSince2005]

lets hope there is a grace period for people just over the 22 weeks limit that this law didnt come into place fast enough for. its only fair.

[Niamh.]

Good news for women in Ni and for same sex couples, its a bit odd that Sinn Fein were welcoming a directive from Westminster though, and even odder that the assembly actually sat to try and block this when they won't sit for anything else :umm2:

I think Sinn Fein were always behind wanting gay marriage and abortion but the DUP were staunchly against it so I guess they're just happy it's been brought in by whatever means?

[smudgie]

Thank goodness for common sense.

Just a thought, how come the DUP want to stay close to the UK, have the same rights etc in Brexit, but don’t want the same human rights as us.:shrug:

[Cherie]

I think Sinn Fein were always behind wanting gay marriage and abortion but the DUP were staunchly against it so I guess they're just happy it's been brought in by whatever means?

yeah I get that however taking a directive from Westminster is odd whatever it is

[Cherie]

Thank goodness for common sense.

Just a thought, how come the DUP want to stay close to the UK, have the same rights etc in Brexit, but don’t want the same human rights as us.:shrug:

good point Smudge, it seems they are happy to take direction from Westminster only when it suits, I find it pretty hypocritical from both sides, given they haven't actually sat down and power shared for years

[Niamh.]

yeah I get that however taking a directive from Westminster is odd whatever it is

True but these are too very important changes for women and gay people so :shrug: We're all hypocrites in some way

[Cherie]

True but these are too very important changes for women and gay people so :shrug: We're all hypocrites in some way

It probably will come back to bite them on the bum but hey ho, not a fan of the 7 month limit myself, I think that is very late for an abortion unless there is a medical reason

[Niamh.]

It probably will come back to bite them on the bum but hey ho, not a fan of the 7 month limit myself, I think that is very late for an abortion unless there is a medical reason

Yeah agree with that. I would have thought that abortions that late would only be done for medical emergencies though?

[Jigs]

Fantastic news for equality and progression. Long overdue. A lot of people seem to be strongly against this so I do worry about the animosity it might cause. But what matters most is that it's going to enrich the lives of same-sex couples and take a huge amount of pressure away from women in the future.

[Cherie]

Yeah agree with that. I would have thought that abortions that late would only be done for medical emergencies though?

I would have thought so, though I am sure I heard on the news last night 28 weeks was the cut off, might be wrong though

[smudgie]

I would have thought so, though I am sure I heard on the news last night 28 weeks was the cut off, might be wrong though

My niece had a baby boy at 26 weeks, he only survived 6 hours, she then went on to have a baby girl at 26 weeks, mother and baby ended up on life support for a while, but story ended happily with both surviving, baby girl is now a very bright and happy dance champion.
Other than medical emergencies I would like the cut off below 24 weeks.

[Niamh.]

My niece had a baby boy at 26 weeks, he only survived 6 hours, she then went on to have a baby girl at 26 weeks, mother and baby ended up on life support for a while, but story ended happily with both surviving, baby girl is now a very bright and happy dance champion.
Other than medical emergencies I would like the cut off below 24 weeks.

Yes I agree, if the baby can survive outside the womb then I think the cut off should be there (unless medical emergency obviously)

[Nicky91]

good that it's legal of course first of all


but secondly, how can you justify abortion actually? since it is taking the life away of your unborn child

sorry to be negative between most of the positivity in this thread, but when is abortion justified, can someone explain?

[Josy]

Good.
good that it's legal of course first of all


but secondly, how can you justify abortion actually? since it is taking the life away of your unborn child

sorry to be negative between most of the positivity in this thread, but when is abortion justified, can someone explain?A woman has the right to decide what happens with her own body what other justification do you need?

[Niamh.]

Good.
A woman has the right to decide what happens with her own body what other justification do you need?

:clap1:

Another man trying to tell women what they're allowed to do with their own bodies. What a surprise

[The Slim Reaper]

:clap1:

Another man trying to tell women what they're allowed to do with their own bodies. What a surprise

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[UserSince2005]

tbh the baby's father should have a veto

[Niamh.]

tbh the baby's father should have a veto

Nah

[The Slim Reaper]

Seriously though, it's none of mens business unless you're in a serious relationship together, and even then it's still ultimately the choice of the woman. If men were the ones to get pregnant, then abortion would never be questioned; there'd be adverts on tv promoting the local abortion centres.

[Niamh.]

Seriously though, it's none of any man's business unless you're in a serious relationship together, and even then it's still ultimately the choice of the woman. If men were the ones to get pregnant, then abortion would never be questioned, there'd be adverts on tv promoting the local abortion centres.

Truth

[Livia]

Great news. And about time.

[Marsh.]

lets hope there is a grace period for people just over the 22 weeks limit that this law didnt come into place fast enough for. its only fair.

Ermm... no.