The Witcher (series)

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[user104658]

Cavill is a gamer, and it shows here because his performance here is very clearly based on Geralt from the games :joker:. He seems a little sullen ( :hehe: ) though... Geralt has a sort of muted, dry humour that I hope they've also captured.

[Wizard.]

Holy sh*t I didn't even realise that was Henry Cavill until I saw his side profile

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https://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-witcher/season-1

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[Tom4784]

I've been hearing nothing but good things tbh.

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I've been hearing nothing but good things tbh.

Bitch where?

[Tom4784]

From all over the place, a lot of reviewers were talking it up as the next game of thrones. I read that there was a bit of controversy about one review from a publication though as the reviewer admitted that they only watched the first and last episodes or something but gave it a bad review regardless.

I'll judge for myself. Metacritic reviews are becoming increasingly dubious and out of touch tbh.

[Ashley.]

I thought the first episode was brilliant. The Game of Thrones-inspired cinematography paired with numerous interesting plots that weren't overly complicated (for a pilot episode) really made it for me.

I only saw the reviews after I had watched the pilot, and was absolutely baffled that it was rated so poorly. I thought they'd be lapping this up. :shrug:

[Marsh.]

Hate watching things based on video games it normally is soulless action.

Does this actually have a plot?

[user104658]

Hate watching things based on video games it normally is soulless action.

Does this actually have a plot?

The games are based on a book series, and the show is based on the books also as source material, not on the games.

Also the Witcher games are very plot-heavy anyway.

[Marsh.]

The games are based on a book series, and the show is based on the books also as source material, not on the games.

Also the Witcher games are very plot-heavy anyway.

Good, I'll give it a go.

[Ashley.]

Does this actually have a plot?

I thought the first episode was brilliant. The Game of Thrones-inspired cinematography paired with numerous interesting plots that weren't overly complicated (for a pilot episode) really made it for me.

I only saw the reviews after I had watched the pilot, and was absolutely baffled that it was rated so poorly. I thought they'd be lapping this up. :shrug:

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[Marsh.]

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I'm so sorry. I'm reading now.

[Tom4784]

Hate watching things based on video games it normally is soulless action.

Does this actually have a plot?

Not you suggesting that video games don't have stories when there's narrative experiences in games that Films and TV can never hope to match :hmph:

[Marsh.]

Not you suggesting that video games don't have stories when there's narrative experiences in games that Films and TV can never hope to match :hmph:

I didn't. :nono:

I meant movies/shows adapted from videos games (from the ones I've seen) do so without thinking much of a plot. :worry:

[Oliver_W]

I'm so happy for Henry Cavill, I heard an internet rumour that he had a "standing order" with his agent that if a Witcher adaption was ever made, he wanted to be in it, in any capacity <3 and apparently he'd frequently ask if there was any news on one coming :joker:

[Tom4784]

I watched the first episode, I quite enjoyed it. The script is clunky in places (the exposition is particularly painful) but it's a good start.

I didn't. :nono:

I meant movies/shows adapted from videos games (from the ones I've seen) do so without thinking much of a plot. :worry:

Oh yeah, Hollywood is typically incapable of adapting video games well which is dumb considering it should be easier with every passing year given that games are becoming more cinematic.

Netflix is pretty much the only one to create good video game adaptations (I know Witcher isn't one but it wouldn't have been adapted were it not for the games). Maybe the key to good video game adaptions are adapting them as TV shows instead.

[Ashley.]

About halfway through this now, and, from somebody with little background knowledge of the series, I love the ambiguity of it all. I'm really interested to see how the storylines merge.

[Mystic Mock]

I've only watched the pilot so far and I'm feeling positive about it.

I'm not sure on the actress playing Ciri so far, but the show is less GOT than I was expecting which is good considering the Games (and I'm gonna presume that the Books are the same) aren't meant to be GOT.

I loved GOT so I'm not meaning to come across as a hater.

[user104658]

About halfway through this now, and, from somebody with little background knowledge of the series, I love the ambiguity of it all. I'm really interested to see how the storylines merge.I've never read the books but have played the games, being "morally grey" was certainly always a big part of it. Moreso in the first two than the third one to be fair, where Geralt is more obviously "lightside", but that tend to be the "big picture" good vs evil stuff - when it comes to the "human storylines" he's always politically neutral (and often playing one side off against the other, whilst working for both).

[Tom4784]

I finished it a couple of days ago. I think the second half of the season is a real mess but I think Season 2 will be very good.

The timeline is a real godamn mess and while I appreciate what they tried to do, they just didn't manage the three timelines very well and the reveals that most of Geralt's storyline takes place in the past and that, in the present, he's pretty much always in close proximity to Ciri just didn't feel rewarding and the way they brought Yennefer and Geralt into present day was just clumsy.

I would have honestly enjoyed this season more if Ciri wasn't in it, I think they should have used this season to build up Yennefer and Geralt more. I loved Yennefer but I had a problem with how they told us about her journey but never showed it. She went from being this character that couldn't do anything to being a bad ass witch bitch without showing us the journey, only her motivations while they settled for telling us everything else.

Given their chemistry, I would have loved Season 1 to be entirely about how Geralt and Yennefer met and interacted throughout the years (while setting up Ciri's plotline). They could have had the first two episodes of Season 2 dedicated to Ciri's plotline (You could cut out the elf boy and the magical forest bits since it had little relevance to the plot) and then move full speed ahead with the threat of Nilfgaard.

I did like the series a lot, I think it's brimming with potential but the format ultimately let it down. Hopefully now they don't have to **** about with timeline ****, they can focus on developing the Nilfgaard threat (did they ever mention the guy with the feather helmet's name?) and develop an overall storyline.

[DouglasS]

Finished it it was very good.

The casting of Triss and especially Fringella was a bad choice however.

Geralt casting was perfect.
Ciri and Yennefer castings I thought we’re good, although perhaps Ciri should have been a year or two younger considering she’ll be an adult by season 3. Dandelion casting was perfect also.

Fringella was never black? And the actress was terrible.

Likewise Triss is a favourite and is known for her red hair - is it really that difficult to dye her hair?

[Tom4784]

Triss only has bright red hair in the games, this series takes more inspiration from the books which describe her hair as being more chestnut.

Fringilla is definitely a character that can be racebended since nothing I've seen makes out her race to be important to her character, most of her descriptions focuses on her eyes and short hair.

[DouglasS]

Triss only has bright red hair in the games, this series takes more inspiration from the books which describe her hair as being more chestnut.

Fringilla is definitely a character that can be racebended since nothing I've seen makes out her race to be important to her character, most of her descriptions focuses on her eyes and short hair.

It does mention streaks of red in her hair however, and people believed her hair to be red even before she appeared in the game due to this, as fans drew pictures of what the characters they believed looked like. It just seems like she’s a completely different character.

Fringella actress was very wooden and not very believable - she’s meant to be evil and have a presence but she was completely forgettable

It’s weird that they cast these two, considering the Renfri actress who was only in an episode blew both these other actresses out the park - everyone online is in complete agreement also, so it’s not like they didn’t have actresses capable.

[Tom4784]

It does mention streaks of red in her hair however, and people believed her hair to be red even before she appeared in the game due to this, as fans drew pictures of what the characters they believed looked like. It just seems like she’s a completely different character.

Fringella actress was very wooden and not very believable - she’s meant to be evil and have a presence but she was completely forgettable

It’s weird that they cast these two, considering the Renfri actress who was only in an episode blew both these other actresses out the park - everyone online is in complete agreement also, so it’s not like they didn’t have actresses capable.

I didn't find either of them bad, tbh. Triss wasn't given much opportunity to do anything this series so it's difficult to judge the actress with what she was given and I thought Fringilla's actress played the role of a fanatic well enough.

[DouglasS]

Yeah Triss could be okay she hasn’t done enough to judge yet.

It might be because Fringella has often been in scenes with Tsinna and Yennefer who just outshine her which is not supposed to be evident.

I’m personally glad they had Ciri in this season as it was just building things up for season 2, her scenes with her grandmother were very much needed for a backstory at the beginning of the show rather than being introduced in season 2 imo. It made me understand the war and the dynamics

[Tom4784]

Yeah Triss could be okay she hasn’t done enough to judge yet.

It might be because Fringella has often been in scenes with Tsinna and Yennefer who just outshine her which is not supposed to be evident.

I’m personally glad they had Ciri in this season as it was just building things up for season 2, her scenes with her grandmother were very much needed for a backstory at the beginning of the show rather than being introduced in season 2 imo. It made me understand the war and the dynamics

I think with Fringella, that was intentional, she was meant to be overshadowed and underestimated in the past so that her transformation in the present is more striking.

I think you could have done the Centra/Cintra (sp?) stuff without the present day aspects as I think that storyline was at it's best when we saw the queen and co interact with Geralt in the past. I'd rather they set up the importance of that episode and the idea of destiny and saved Ciri for next season when they could have paced her story better and given her the time she needed.

[Babayaro.]

Episode 1 was pretty good and enough to make me want to watch the rest :clap1:

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Is gaunter o’ dimm in this bc if he is i’ll have to watch

THE best video game character of all time y’all

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[user104658]

I love that you can tell how much fun Cavill is having with this, especially combat scenes :joker:. Like he's living out his best cosplay fantasy.

[Josy]

I loved this!!!!

They better get a move on with the next season

[Josy]

Although I do completely agree with Dezzy about the timelines.

[bots]

i really enjoyed it

[user104658]

Although I do completely agree with Dezzy about the timelines.

I can see the timelines being confusing for people that don't know the games (or books, but let's face it more people know the story from the games!). It's clear that they're different times if you do, because Yennifer is much older than Geralt and they've known each other for decades by the time Geralt meets Dandelion (Jaskier) and I believe he's known Jaskier for many years before Ciri is around.

[Scarlett.]

I was able to work out the timelines from name drops of the city that fell and other references and I'd never played the games. Absolutely loved the series, one of the best Netflix Originals yet.

[Scarlett.]

I didn't. :nono:

I meant movies/shows adapted from videos games (from the ones I've seen) do so without thinking much of a plot. :worry:

I think games have been done dirty over the years, they've mainly been adapted into films, where you have to condense so much of what makes it good into a two hour period, TV is a much better medium for games IMO

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I loved this!!!!

They better get a move on with the next season

It’s not out until 2021

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I watched ep 1 the other day and i was so confused

I didn’t know anyone from the game besides geralt and ciri (i’m assuming ciri was the gal who escaped from the castle)

Who was the butch who the wizard got geralt to kill?

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And WHERE was ms keira metz?

[Babayaro.]

its a good show but I'm struggling to get into it tbh. The timelines are SO confusing.

[Jessica.]

Watched it with my boyfriend, we really enjoyed it!

[user104658]

I was able to work out the timelines from name drops of the city that fell and other references and I'd never played the games. Absolutely loved the series, one of the best Netflix Originals yet.

HOW have you never played Witcher 3??

Witcher 2 is a great game too. The difficulty scale is a bit off (it's VERY hard for the first few hours and gets increasingly easy as you skill up) but the storyline is great; much smaller scale than 3 (it's not open world) but that's not necessarily a bad thing IMO, tonnes of character and "big set pieces".

Witcher 1 is pretty dated to the point of not being all that playable at this point but meh... you get more than enough background from the TV show to jump in at 2 (or even 3, though I do recommend 2 anyway).

[user104658]

By the whay for anyone who is interested, the GOTY edition of TW3 with all DLC is on sale on PS store at the moment for like < £15

[Scarlett.]

HOW have you never played Witcher 3??

Witcher 2 is a great game too. The difficulty scale is a bit off (it's VERY hard for the first few hours and gets increasingly easy as you skill up) but the storyline is great; much smaller scale than 3 (it's not open world) but that's not necessarily a bad thing IMO, tonnes of character and "big set pieces".

Witcher 1 is pretty dated to the point of not being all that playable at this point but meh... you get more than enough background from the TV show to jump in at 2 (or even 3, though I do recommend 2 anyway).

I've had it for a while but never got around to playing :laugh:


For anyone struggling to understand the timeline, Netflix has done an official timeline/map
https://www.witchernetflix.com/en-gb

[user104658]

I've had it for a while but never got around to playing :laugh:


For anyone struggling to understand the timeline, Netflix has done an official timeline/map
https://www.witchernetflix.com/en-gb

Hmmmm I'm pretty sure in the lore Yennifer is older than Geralt. I don't think their exact ages are ever really given bu I'm sure Geralt is "nearly 100" while Yen is "over 100".

[Mystic Mock]

Finished it it was very good.

The casting of Triss and especially Fringella was a bad choice however.

Geralt casting was perfect.
Ciri and Yennefer castings I thought we’re good, although perhaps Ciri should have been a year or two younger considering she’ll be an adult by season 3. Dandelion casting was perfect also.

Fringella was never black? And the actress was terrible.

Likewise Triss is a favourite and is known for her red hair - is it really that difficult to dye her hair?

I wish that the only problem with Triss was the change of her look.:laugh:

I agree with you for the most part on the other characters, Ciri's performance did grow on me (even if the writers didn't do the best job with her character) and Dandelion, Geralt, and Yennefer steal the season for me (like I think they're intended to tbf) I still have Toss A Coin To Your Witcher ringing in my head.:joker:

Oh and the actress who plays Yennefer is from Wolverhampton so on a personal level it's good to see someone from the Midlands doing well for themselves.

[user104658]

I wish that the only problem with Triss was the change of her look.:laugh:

I always felt that the point of Triss was that she was supposed to seem quite young / playful / lighthearted in contrast to Yennifer (who has a more stoic/powerful character) and I don't feel like we saw any of that, but then, there was hardly any Triss at all in this and I'm basing my perception of her on the games, which are set after the books so 10+ years after the events we've just seen in the show (e.g. Ciri is in her early 20's).

Of course, there was the slightly problematic fact that (Witcher 2 spoilers)

Triss was essentially date-raping Geralt for the first half of TW2! :umm2: bit of a darker side to her there.

For those who haven't played it; Geralt has memory loss at the start of the game, he knows who he is etc. but he doesn't remember Yennifer or their relationship... he's travelling with - and in a sexual relationship with - Triss... who of course DOES know everything, but doesn't tell him about Yenn and tells him he's with her and carries on lying about it because she doesn't want their relationship to end. He's understandably not too pleased when he eventually remembers D: