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Cherie
01-11-2019, 08:30 AM
Was that very wise, given the backlash against Obama, people in the main don't like being told how to vote especially by leaders of other countries :shrug:

arista
01-11-2019, 08:35 AM
Tricky as it was to his mate Farage
who is not in our main politics yet.

Its Gets LBC clips (On Farage taking the call)
on BBC TV news
so LBC , love it.



A gift for Labour MP's on TV today

bots
01-11-2019, 08:36 AM
it comes from a narcissist who believes his opinion is the only correct one, so he is simply instructing the people of the UK how to vote :shrug:

In reality its only those that support trump that will take a blind bit of notice of him so they would always be in the extreme anyway.

Liam-
01-11-2019, 08:45 AM
What Trump means by ‘Corbyn will take you to a very bad place’ is that corporations will face having to pay their taxes they owe us, the top 10% won’t receive their yearly tax cuts anymore and the Americans won’t be able to get their grubby little hands on the NHS like they would if Boris is still in charge, Mr Farage may have made a whoopsie by allowing that to happen y’know, now people can actually see that there are invested interests between Boris and Donnie personally, it’ll make for great campaign points for Labour!

Kazanne
01-11-2019, 09:53 AM
What Trump means by ‘Corbyn will take you to a very bad place’ is that corporations will face having to pay their taxes they owe us, the top 10% won’t receive their yearly tax cuts anymore and the Americans won’t be able to get their grubby little hands on the NHS like they would if Boris is still in charge, Mr Farage may have made a whoopsie by allowing that to happen y’know, now people can actually see that there are invested interests between Boris and Donnie personally, it’ll make for great campaign points for Labour!

Ah,this old chestnut again,it will never happen, None of us know what Trump meant but imo his comment about Corbyn was spot on,and why shouldnt he comment, wasnt it Corbyn who rubbished him when he visited london. looks like tit for tat to me.

Liam-
01-11-2019, 10:07 AM
Ah,this old chestnut again,it will never happen, None of us know what Trump meant but imo his comment about Corbyn was spot on,and why shouldnt he comment, wasnt it Corbyn who rubbished him when he visited london. looks like tit for tat to me.

It’s already started to happen, they’ve been having meetings with American representatives about the NHS and pharmaceutical prices and such, don’t be blind to it just because you dislike Corbyn, I bet you were one of those people that thought Obama should mind his own business when he commented on the referendum though, this has cemented the fact that our national services can not be trusted with the likes of Boris and Farage, don’t go crying when it all happens cause you didn’t want to see it.

Kazanne
01-11-2019, 10:25 AM
It’s already started to happen, they’ve been having meetings with American representatives about the NHS and pharmaceutical prices and such, don’t be blind to it just because you dislike Corbyn, I bet you were one of those people that thought Obama should mind his own business when he commented on the referendum as well, this has cemented the fact that our national services can not be trusted with the likes of Boris and Farage, don’t go crying when it all happens cause you didn’t want to see it.

I could easily turn that around to you, dont be blinded by what you read ,not all of it is factual,some is designed to push people a certain way,it works for some but not all, here is a good example https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10255762/jeremy-corbyn-labour-hatred-envy/

We all read this type of stuff and depending on who we support believe it,so are we believing what we read or just certain parts of it ? I dont dislike Corbyn as i dont know him personally but I do think he has brought the Labour party to its knees and needs to go if he was bothered about the country he would have stood down and handed the mantle to someone people actually warm to , they would have a much better chance of winning an election then. I wont be crying , I will deal with whatever happens.

The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 10:44 AM
I could easily turn that around to you, dont be blinded by what you read ,not all of it is factual,some is designed to push people a certain way,it works for some but not all, here is a good example https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10255762/jeremy-corbyn-labour-hatred-envy/

We all read this type of stuff and depending on who we support believe it,so are we believing what we read or just certain parts of it ? I dont dislike Corbyn as i dont know him personally but I do think he has brought the Labour party to its knees and needs to go if he was bothered about the country he would have stood down and handed the mantle to someone people actually warm to , they would have a much better chance of winning an election then. I wont be crying , I will deal with whatever happens.

Why are all the medical organisations and professionals saying it?

Kazanne
01-11-2019, 10:50 AM
Why are all the medical organisations and professionals saying it?

Probably because they don't like Trump :laugh: and sorry Slim but just because someone has a professional title doesnt make them infalible ,they are probably worried as a lot of remainers are about the effects of Brexit but we will see.:wavey:

Cherie
01-11-2019, 10:52 AM
It was pretty hypocrital of Farage given his comments after Obamas visit

Liam-
01-11-2019, 10:55 AM
Probably because they don't like Trump :laugh: and sorry Slim but just because someone has a professional title doesnt make them infalible ,they are probably worried as a lot of remainers are about the effects of Brexit but we will see.:wavey:

So the professionals inside the NHS are lying about the decimation at the hands of the Tories and their worries about it being sold off to the US, just cause they don’t like Trump?

Boris is a known and proven liar, he’s been fired from multiple positions for deception, yet you seem to think he’s the most trustworthy politician that wouldn’t lie?

Liam-
01-11-2019, 10:56 AM
It was pretty hypocrital of Farage given his comments after Obamas visit

Farage a hypocrite? Well I never, I am shooketh to the core, who saw that coming? :omgno:

His own ego is going to be his (second) downfall :laugh:

Cherie
01-11-2019, 11:00 AM
Farage a hypocrite? Well I never, I am shooketh to the core, who saw that coming? :omgno:

His own ego is going to be his (second) downfall :laugh:

True

How his party are going to fight the election is going to be interesting

The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 11:01 AM
Probably because they don't like Trump :laugh: and sorry Slim but just because someone has a professional title doesnt make them infalible ,they are probably worried as a lot of remainers are about the effects of Brexit but we will see.:wavey:

But they do like and care about the sector they work in. It's not about Trump, and viewing every policy criticism of Johnson/Trump/Tories as "well, they just don't like him/them" means that no matter what the facts, you are never open to changing your mind or viewing things on their merits.

When we criticise children in cages, it's not because it's Trump, it' because it's abhorrent. When we criticise what the tories have inflicted on this country for 9 years, it's not because of Johnson or Raab, it's because they are hurting and killing people.

We don't like them because of what they've done, it's not that we don't like what they've done, because we don't like them.

The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 11:02 AM
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True

How his party are going to fight the election is going to be interesting

They wont fight or contest the election. He will completely back off and he will receive a peerage from Johnson as a reward.

Kazanne
01-11-2019, 11:20 AM
So the professionals inside the NHS are lying about the decimation at the hands of the Tories and their worries about it being sold off to the US, just cause they don’t like Trump?

Boris is a known and proven liar, he’s been fired from multiple positions for deception, yet you seem to think he’s the most trustworthy politician that wouldn’t lie?

No one said they were lying,stop fabricating,but maybe they should look more towards the reasons the NHS is struggling ,it's not always the govenments fault,but it always seems whatever the problem the govenment is to blame,they cannot work miracles, I am not saying there have not been mistakes but surely mismanagement and self serving people have a part to play, its the same as the councils always banging on about they havent got enough money, I have seen the money spent by things that are just not essential.They are all proven liars as you say, so we have to pick one. The NHS will NOT be sold off that is what I believe at the moment.

Kazanne
01-11-2019, 11:27 AM
But they do like and care about the sector they work in. It's not about Trump, and viewing every policy criticism of Johnson/Trump/Tories as "well, they just don't like him/them" means that no matter what the facts, you are never open to changing your mind or viewing things on their merits.

When we criticise children in cages, it's not because it's Trump, it' because it's abhorrent. When we criticise what the tories have inflicted on this country for 9 years, it's not because of Johnson or Raab, it's because they are hurting and killing people.

We don't like them because of what they've done, it's not that we don't like what they've done, because we don't like them.

I am sure most of them love what they do,and the NHS is second to none, but it does waste a lot of money especially from the fat cats at the top, I simply dont think it will ever be sold off by anyone, and I dont think the government are fully to blame ,I am quite distrusting of people in general so its really hard to choose a side you can 100% get behind,Im just going by my instincts at the moment. They are probably worried about the effects of Brexit,but it cant get any worse than it already is, I really dont think much will change.

arista
01-11-2019, 11:32 AM
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The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 11:43 AM
I am sure most of them love what they do,and the NHS is second to none, but it does waste a lot of money especially from the fat cats at the top, I simply dont think it will ever be sold off by anyone, and I dont think the government are fully to blame ,I am quite distrusting of people in general so its really hard to choose a side you can 100% get behind,Im just going by my instincts at the moment. They are probably worried about the effects of Brexit,but it cant get any worse than it already is, I really dont think much will change.

Take brexit out of the equation, it's their austerity which has already damaged it beyond anything anyone could have seen coming. I've even posted vids to you of themselves saying they don't care about it, and you still trust them after what they've done? Fair enough, it's your vote.

The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 11:44 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EISLF8NXkAA5zC_?format=jpg&name=small

They're offering a peoples vote versus leave. It's the LD's offering remain or remain.

Liam-
01-11-2019, 11:48 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EISLF8NXkAA5zC_?format=jpg&name=small

More lies from the biggest snake of them all

Cherie
01-11-2019, 11:53 AM
They wont fight or contest the election. He will completely back off and he will receive a peerage from Johnson as a reward.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/brexit-party-to-fight-every-seat-in-general-election-unless-boris-johnson-tears-up-his-eu-deal/ar-AAJG5oX?ocid=spartanntp

Brexit party will fight every seat if current deal isn't torn up


no surprises there for me

Nicky91
01-11-2019, 12:00 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/brexit-party-to-fight-every-seat-in-general-election-unless-boris-johnson-tears-up-his-eu-deal/ar-AAJG5oX?ocid=spartanntp

Brexit party will fight every seat if current deal isn't torn up


no surprises there for me

Brexit Party = party consisting out of trolls, bigots, scum :idc:


proof, them trolling during the EU anthem, while they first wanted to be in that parliament, some other british party would've at least been more respectful than childish nasty trolling

The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 12:01 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/brexit-party-to-fight-every-seat-in-general-election-unless-boris-johnson-tears-up-his-eu-deal/ar-AAJG5oX?ocid=spartanntp

Brexit party will fight every seat if current deal isn't torn up


no surprises there for me

I'll be amazed if they do this, but fingers crossed this is accurate. Farage is using this as a bargaining chip imo to get something he wants.

The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 12:04 PM
i am sure most of them love what they do,and the nhs is second to none, but it does waste a lot of money especially from the fat cats at the top, i simply dont think it will ever be sold off by anyone, and i dont think the government are fully to blame ,i am quite distrusting of people in general so its really hard to choose a side you can 100% get behind,im just going by my instincts at the moment. They are probably worried about the effects of brexit,but it cant get any worse than it already is, i really dont think much will change.

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The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 12:14 PM
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Cherie
01-11-2019, 12:52 PM
Maybe they want to lose and want Corbyn to take on Brexit :omgno:

arista
01-11-2019, 12:54 PM
Maybe they want to lose and want Corbyn to take on Brexit :omgno:


Corbyn's Brexit is staying in.

Nicky91
01-11-2019, 12:54 PM
don't touch britain's NHS with your greasy huge hands, donnie :nono:

arista
01-11-2019, 12:56 PM
don't touch britain's NHS with your greasy huge hands, donnie :nono:


Will he be in Power?

Cherie
01-11-2019, 12:56 PM
Corbyn's Brexit is staying in.

Its a peoples vote on his brand new deal Arista :laugh:

Cherie
01-11-2019, 12:56 PM
Will he be in Power?

probably not

arista
01-11-2019, 12:58 PM
Its a peoples vote on his brand new deal Arista :laugh:



Yes Brand new staying in Customs Union
and Single market


Utter waste of time

arista
01-11-2019, 01:02 PM
Farage stated live this morning
Johnson PM has until Nov 14th
to do a deal with him.


Downing Street has said No
again.

Tom4784
01-11-2019, 03:58 PM
Trump only cares for his own interests and circumstances, a labour party running against his UK counterpart with a particular anti-establishment history is scary to him since he's probably seeing this whole situation as similar to the election he might have to face if Bernie gets the nod.

He wants to crush anything that could lead to him paying more tax, even in other countries.

Tom4784
01-11-2019, 04:01 PM
Maybe they want to lose and want Corbyn to take on Brexit :omgno:

It's honestly something that I'm seriously considering to be the case. Nothing has destroyed the tories more than Brexit and it wouldn't be surprising if they want to give up the reigns so that they can be the opposition and go on the attack to undermine the labour government in the hopes that Brexit would wreck them like it did their own party.

Let someone handle the messiness of Brexit (and the backlash) and then return to take power on a gilded faux gold horse when all is said and done.

Tom4784
01-11-2019, 04:03 PM
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They'll believe the liar who is spinning a prettier fairy tale.

I have no faith in the voting public at this point, they're all too used to voting against their own interests to please their overlords by getting the rich a tax break or ten.

Marsh.
01-11-2019, 04:25 PM
Probably because they don't like Trump :laugh: and sorry Slim but just because someone has a professional title doesnt make them infalible ,they are probably worried as a lot of remainers are about the effects of Brexit but we will see.:wavey:

First, a link to the Sun, and now ALL medical professionals have got it wrong? Oh dear.

The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 04:35 PM
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Tom4784
01-11-2019, 04:37 PM
First, a link to the Sun, and now ALL medical professionals have got it wrong? Oh dear.

We live in a world where experts can only be trusted if they tell you what you want to hear because being placated by lies is preferred to being told an uncomfortable truth.

The NHS will be no more in ten years at this rate, the efforts to demonise it's workers to the public are working and the public are all too glad to let it all rot as long as they're being told a pretty fiction.

It's so ****ing grim. I've got a rainy day fund in case I ever decide to emigrate and every day it becomes more and more likely that I'll actually use it for that purpose at some point. I won't live in the UK if it means having to deal with a US style health system.

arista
01-11-2019, 04:49 PM
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Yes Bernie
is like Corbyn

And

Corbyn
is like Bernie.

arista
01-11-2019, 06:10 PM
Johnson gave a one on one interview
with Ridge SkyNewsHD
He will not to any deal with Farage

9mins long
full interview
is on her 8:30AM Sunday. SkyNewsHD

arista
01-11-2019, 06:15 PM
Johnson also gave a one on one interview
with the BBC news Laura K.

The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 06:21 PM
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Twosugars
01-11-2019, 06:24 PM
NHS bosses fear hospitals and patients will have to pay billions more for drugs as the price of Boris Johnson striking a post-Brexit trade deal with Donald Trump.

A report by the NHS Confederation, which represents most hospital trusts in England, warns the NHS could be landed with a much larger bill for medication and denied the chance to use cheaper alternatives to expensive branded drugs.

The voluntary pricing and access scheme (VPAS), which caps the total bill the NHS has to pay for medicines, would be under threat, given the determination of the US government and drug companies to force Britain to pay higher prices, it says.
The Guardian

arista
01-11-2019, 06:28 PM
NHS bosses fear hospitals and patients will have to pay billions more for drugs as the price of Boris Johnson striking a post-Brexit trade deal with Donald Trump.

A report by the NHS Confederation, which represents most hospital trusts in England, warns the NHS could be landed with a much larger bill for medication and denied the chance to use cheaper alternatives to expensive branded drugs.

The voluntary pricing and access scheme (VPAS), which caps the total bill the NHS has to pay for medicines, would be under threat, given the determination of the US government and drug companies to force Britain to pay higher prices, it says.
The Guardian


Thats Speculation................

arista
01-11-2019, 06:55 PM
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The Slim Reaper
01-11-2019, 07:07 PM
finally

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Twosugars
01-11-2019, 07:33 PM
Slim make it happen! :dance:
I'd love to see them in court