Jeremy Corbyn wants to gove everyone free WiFi

[Denver]

He plans to gove every home and business free super fast WiFi in the next 10 years, where is he getting the money from?

[michael21]

Sky and bt are loving this :laugh:

[michael21]

The announcement will be made by party leader Jeremy Corbyn, who plans to pay for the scheme by taxing multinational technology firms such as Amazon, Facebook and Google.:cheer2:

[Liam-]

By taxing the tech giants that currently send their money off-shore :hee:

[Mitchell]

Here for it

[user104658]

He plans to gove every home and business free super fast WiFi in the next 10 years, where is he getting the money from?

Rapidly-advancing technology actually means this should be relatively feasible, it's probably coming eventually anyway tbh. Most big cities run free WiFi networks these days.

[Withano]

He plans to gove every home and business free super fast WiFi in the next 10 years, where is he getting the money from?

...actually taxing wealthy people, businesses and corporations a fair amount.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Snatch dat yoof vote bra

:laugh2:

[Twosugars]

Internet should be free tbh. Forward thinking :clap1:

[arista]

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[MB.]

He plans to gove every home and business free super fast WiFi in the next 10 years, where is he getting the money from?

He'll be charging £10,000 a minute to use this website

[Mitchell]

He'll be charging £10,000 a minute to use this website

Nicky to be priced out?

[Wizard.]

Here for it but it should be means tested no-one earning over £30k can't not afford £30-40 a month on wifi.

[Tom4784]

If Corporations and the 1% paid what they actually owed then goals like this would be highly attainable.

[Marsh.]

Snatch dat yoof vote bra

:laugh2:

Spoken like a "youth" from about 1974. :thumbs:

[Mystic Mock]

It sounds like a good idea.

[Cherie]

Sounds great in theory but in practise how would it work, I would imagine it would be quite basic and probably wouldn’t work half the time? not too sure about this one particularly if you work from home and are relying on a half decent speed

[Shaun]

hasn't BoJo also pledged towards free wifi by 2025? I'm sure I read that yesterday morning.

[Cherie]

So they are going to part nationalise BT to do this?

[bots]

So they are going to part nationalise BT to do this?

the only way they could do it was by nationalising Open Reach which is the company that provides the infrastructure for broadband throughout the country, and it has already been split off from BT so that it is competitive to all the broadband providers. Nationalising it would mean the end to it being competitive, and without competition there is no drive for innovation :laugh:

It's a flawed proposal, its a sound bite, nothing more.

lets also not forget all the existing broadband providers that would see their business disappear over night.

[Kazanne]

They must think we are all stupid, lol, getting taxes from Amazon and others like them is not that easy, the way they are structured makes that very difficult, so it will take 10 years when we really should have faster broadband here already, so imo more empty promises

[Cherie]

the only way they could do it was by nationalising Open Reach which is the company that provides the infrastructure for broadband throughout the country, and it has already been split off from BT so that it is competitive to all the broadband providers. Nationalising it would mean the end to it being competitive, and without competition there is no drive for innovation :laugh:

It's a flawed proposal, its a sound bite, nothing more.

lets also not forget all the existing broadband providers that would see their business disappear over night.

so a lot of jobs lost then...

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Spoken like a "youth" from about 1974. :thumbs:

The only word from 1974 is vote

:skull:

[Crimson Dynamo]

hasn't BoJo also pledged towards free wifi by 2025? I'm sure I read that yesterday morning.

No suoerfast WiFi in rural communities

[smudgie]

Free Fish and chips on a Friday for all next please.

[Crimson Dynamo]

just a thought but in 10 years wont all wifi be free, as it seems that is where the market is going as its more of a given these days than a benefit. i mean the b and bs that have a sign saying free wifi look so dated and quaint?

[Shaun]

Travelodge will still be trying their "half an hour" nonsense, the stingy bastards

[The Slim Reaper]

Tories nearly doubled the historical national debt in 9 years, and yet no one ever asks them what they've done with the money or how they are going to pay for stuff.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tories nearly doubled the historical national debt in 9 years, and yet no one ever asks them what they've done with the money or how they are going to pay for stuff.

that is what is called whaaboutism

this thread is about free wifi

[Morgan.]

Travelodge will still be trying their "half an hour" nonsense, the stingy bastards

I just booked a travelodge and thought it was pretty ridiculous.

[Crimson Dynamo]

even mcdonalds have stopped the free wifi promo as no one now cares

[The Slim Reaper]

that is what is called whaaboutism

this thread is about free wifi

No. OP made the point about paying for it, so it's completely relevant to the thread. You knew that already.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i feel this is like Labour 10 years ago promising "FREE DATA FOR ONE AND ALL" only for 10 years after and its a given and costs you nowt


it reminds me of Doctor Evil and his 1 MILLION DOLLARS ransom

[arista]

Free Fish and chips on a Friday for all next please.


Yes Labour might do that
fund it from Google Tax.

[Cherie]

Any party who has a manifesto promise that requires two terms in office is not going to deliver....manifesto promises should be carried out in the term, otherwise its too easy to say oh we got kicked out and didn't have enough time to deliver on our pledge

[arista]

even mcdonalds have stopped the free wifi promo as no one now cares


Have they/

[arista]

Any party who has a manifesto promise that requires two terms in office is not going to deliver....manifesto promises should be carried out in the term, otherwise its too easy to say oh we got kicked out and didn't have enough time to deliver on our pledge



Yes Labour McDonnell MP said he can not do it in 5 years
so 2030 is the date.

Its Wrong as before now
Labour did say 5 year term on their pledges.

[Livia]

Yes Labour McDonald MP said he can not do it in 5 years
so 2030 is the date.

Its Wrong as before now
Labour did say 5 year term on their pledges.

Free McDonalds for every Labour voter!


I watched Kingman again a couple of nights ago and Samuel L Jackson offers free Wi-Fi and phone calls “For everyone, forever.”. Samuel L. Corbyn.... hmmmm.... it's not the same.

[Twosugars]

Didnt bojo do the same with his hospital "building" pledge? 10 years wasnt it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Didnt bojo do the same with his hospital "building" pledge? 10 years wasnt it

wifi in hospitals?

[Cherie]

Didnt bojo do the same with his hospital "building" pledge? 10 years wasnt it

which is why I said 'any party', I could have predicted this post btw

[Livia]

Didnt bojo do the same with his hospital "building" pledge? 10 years wasnt it

This thread isn't about Bojo. Remember what a fuss you make when someone mentions Corbyn in what you believe is an unrelated thread?

[Beso]

Oh..well I guess this is all the uks problems solved in one pledge....what a pointless exercise.

[Cherie]

This thread isn't about Bojo. Remember what a fuss you make when someone mentions Corbyn in what you believe is an unrelated thread?

:laugh:

[Twosugars]

:laugh:

I was making the bojo point to you actually re promises that take longer to deliver than one term. It seems both parties are doing it

[Twosugars]

This thread isn't about Bojo. Remember what a fuss you make when someone mentions Corbyn in what you believe is an unrelated thread?

I dont respond to people who childishly manipulate their ignore list to avoid discussion :wavey:

[Kizzy]

Any party who has a manifesto promise that requires two terms in office is not going to deliver....manifesto promises should be carried out in the term, otherwise its too easy to say oh we got kicked out and didn't have enough time to deliver on our pledge

There's time to put legislation in place to ensure it happens whoever comes after.

[Cherie]

I was making the bojo point to you actually re promises that take longer to deliver than one term. It seems both parties are doing it

Yes which is why I said ‘any party’ meaning all of them :umm2:

[Kizzy]

Yes which is why I said ‘any party’ meaning all of them :umm2:

I'll look forward to seeing the bills go through that deliver all those hospitals promised then.

As for my opinion on free WiFi never before have I seen hand wringing and lamenting 'won't someone please think of the shareholders' its a tibb first.

[arista]

Oh..well I guess this is all the uks problems solved in one pledge....what a pointless exercise.


Corbyn is giving his Free
"British Broadband" to all places
that are not getting it. First.


So many Digging up in those distant places
to fit the New Fibre.

[Twosugars]

Yes which is why I said ‘any party’ meaning all of them :umm2:

Well I was giving an example :hee:

[Cherie]

I'll look forward to seeing the bills go through that deliver all those hospitals promised then.

As for my opinion on free WiFi never before have I seen hand wringing and lamenting 'won't someone please think of the shareholders' its a tibb first.

who said that? it probably your incorrect interpretation as usual

[Cherie]

why are all these plans a magic 10 years, why cant we have 4 year plans, seems fair enough, 4 years to get something done? seems a generous amount of time?

[Twosugars]

who said that? it probably your incorrect interpretation as usual

As usual? Do you have proof her interpretations are usually incorrect?

[Cherie]

As usual? Do you have proof her interpretations are usually incorrect?

Practically every post I make :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'll look forward to seeing the bills go through that deliver all those hospitals promised then.

As for my opinion on free WiFi never before have I seen hand wringing and lamenting 'won't someone please think of the shareholders' its a tibb first.

No one has expressed that sentiment that in this thread??

[James]

State-controlled Internet access. :worry:

[Livia]

I see the Chairman of BT has imploded....

[Crimson Dynamo]

State-controlled Internet access. :worry:

Can you imagine the security issues and problems?

[Zizu]

Surely nobody believes a word those idiots ( politicians) say or promise !!

That goes for all parties !


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[Crimson Dynamo]

I preferred it when they just kissed babies

[Livia]

Think of the poor babies....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Think of the poor babies....

at least they will have wifi unlike now when they....have....wifi...


what is wifi now £10-20 a month?


in 10 years what will it be

prebuilt into every device and wont exist as a free standing item :joker:

[Beso]

If you can afford a phone, laptop or computer then you can afford ten quid a month for Internet....corbyn a complete idiot..

[Kazanne]

This thread isn't about Bojo. Remember what a fuss you make when someone mentions Corbyn in what you believe is an unrelated thread?

:cheer2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

If you can afford a phone, laptop or computer then you can afford ten quid a month for Internet....corbyn a complete idiot..

i saw on Politics live today that they made up this "policy" last week :joker:

[Beso]

i saw on Politics live today that they made up this "policy" last week :joker:

Probably aimed at Aberdeen south and other areas the snp didn't win..

[Kizzy]

who said that? it probably your incorrect interpretation as usual

Says the person who thinks it takes 10yrs to get a bill through parliament :idc:

[Kizzy]

No one has expressed that sentiment that in this thread??

'Lets also not forget all the existing broadband providers that would see their business disappear over night.'

Do we have a duty of care to private enterprise or taxpayers?
What is the role of government?
The reaction to this was a query about job losses, where will the jobs be lost, if you ring your broadband provider is the call centre in the UK?

[arista]

With State Internet
and even more on Free Internet
will it Crash?

Tech Experts say it will crash alot.

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[arista]

Labour will stop Porn
for under aged.

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

There's nothing wrong with bringing back BT for broadband it would prevent the controversy surrounding 5G and huewai?
From a security perspective I'd have thought the less foreign fingers in our communications the better?

[arista]

There's nothing wrong with bringing back BT for broadband it would prevent the controversy surrounding 5G and huewai?
From a security perspective I'd have thought the less foreign fingers in our communications the better?


The 5G is still Via Huawei
even with BT.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Grim Reaper]

Well surely we can all agree this election is just what we all needed, after all afterwards it's gonna be like Heaven.. free broadband,free double glazing, tons of new hospitals and you'll ring the doctor for an appointment and they'll say sure is 15 minutes enough time for you to get here?! Ooh and then there's the thousands of extra filth on the streets who incidentally won't actually be needed by that time because the schools will be so fantastic no kid will ever want to knock off' to become a knife weilding drug courier! I don't know why we've waited so long?

[Vanessa]

Yes please! :dance:

[Cherie]

Well surely we can all agree this election is just what we all needed, after all afterwards it's gonna be like Heaven.. free broadband,free double glazing, tons of new hospitals and you'll ring the doctor for an appointment and they'll say sure is 15 minutes enough time for you to get here?! Ooh and then there's the thousands of extra filth on the streets who incidentally won't actually be needed by that time because the schools will be so fantastic no kid will ever want to knock off' to become a knife weilding drug courier! I don't know why we've waited so long?

:dance: it's all going to be fine..apparently, depending on who you support..

[Marsh.]

so a lot of jobs lost then...

Is it our job to ensure call centres in India remain in employment?

[Marsh.]

The only word from 1974 is vote

:skull:

You misunderstand, you were a "youth" in 1974.

What you said is spoken like someone who grew up back then thinking they know how the kids speak now. :hee:

[Cherie]

Is it our job to ensure call centres in India remain in employment?

What issues do you have with Indians working :umm2:

[Marsh.]

What issues do you have with Indians working :umm2:

Who said I did? I asked if it was our responsibility to keep them in employment?

[Cherie]

Who said I did? I asked if it was our responsibility to keep them in employment?

If they are working for a company supplying broadband to the UK and it’s the company policy to have call centres in India or Scotland or Manchester its their responsibility, obviously you personally are not responsible Marsh but if you pay your subs to the company then you are vicariously contributing to their employment, it’s how business works :thumbs:

[Marsh.]

If they are working for a company supplying broadband to the UK and it’s the company policy to have call centres in India or Scotland or Manchester its their responsibility, obviously you personally are not responsible Marsh but if you pay your subs to the company then you are vicariously contributing to their employment, it’s how business works :thumbs:

Right... but you're suggesting our main concern should be their employment should those services no longer be required?

Industries and services become obsolete or evolve into something else all the time. It's how the world works. :thumbs:

[Cherie]

Right... but you're suggesting our main concern should be their employment should those services no longer be required?

Industries and services become obsolete or evolve into something else all the time. It's how the world works. :thumbs:

No I am suggesting that a potential future government potentially putting people out of work is not a good look :thumbs:

[Twosugars]

No I am suggesting that a potential future government potentially putting people out of work is not a good look :thumbs:

Nonsense. The government's job is to look after jobs in the UK, not the whole world.
Those call centres should not have been outsourced abroad in the first place.

[Marsh.]

No I am suggesting that a potential future government potentially putting people out of work is not a good look :thumbs:

Yes, India's employment figures should definitely be on their priority list. :thumbs:

[Livia]

I think they might have let Diane Abbott crunch the numbers...

[Zizu]

I think they might have let Diane Abbott crunch the numbers...



When she’s not servicing Jeremy ?


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[Kizzy]

Makes a change from stereotyping mocking female members of the shadow cabinet I suppose.

[bots]

So it's ok for companies such as sky, virgin etc to lose money?

Also, as most of labour want to remain in the EU, how do they balance this nationalisation against the EU competition rules that this breaks?

[arista]

So it's ok for companies such as sky, virgin etc to lose money?

Also, as most of labour want to remain in the EU, how do they balance this nationalisation against the EU competition rules that this breaks?


No they will have to change
if Labour get in power?
As Everyone would move to Free Broadband
Corbyn's BT British Broadband

Talk Talk Internet
was just about to expand and sell it on,
but that was immediately postponed.
As Labour destroyed their plan.

[Kizzy]

So it's ok for companies such as sky, virgin etc to lose money?

Also, as most of labour want to remain in the EU, how do they balance this nationalisation against the EU competition rules that this breaks?

Yes it is.. why do those being overcharged for a private company feel obligated to protect its profits :(

[arista]

The BT
CEO says its 100 Billion Pound costings

Not Labour's 20 Billion Pound costings

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Cherie]

It won't be free anyway, taxes will go up

[Beso]

Labour to announce free winning lottery tickets for all in new campaign pledges this Monday.

[Oliver_W]

Is it even needed? Libraries have wifi, and even computers. Shopping centres and plenty of supermarkets and cafes have wifi too.

[Cherie]

Nonsense. The government's job is to look after jobs in the UK, not the whole world.
Those call centres should not have been outsourced abroad in the first place.

So you are saying there are no uk call centres or other staff at any of the broadband providers? Maybe the Indians have developed Glaswegian accents to fool the customer because last time I rang a Virgin call centre I spoke to someone in Glasgow

[DouglasS]

If Corporations and the 1% paid what they actually owed then goals like this would be highly attainable.

Not true

[arista]

It won't be free anyway, taxes will go up

Yes
nothing can be Free.



The Number are being worked over this weekend
with a Labour Party and unions get together

[arista]

Is it even needed? Libraries have wifi, and even computers. Shopping centres and plenty of supermarkets and cafes have wifi too.


Well Labour say
many small business folks
are not able to get proper Fibre Broadband

And those in Long away locations
are getting the Free British Broadband
first, that will cost more than
£20Billion, though.


Labour think this a Vote Winner
BT shares have dropped well down,

[Livia]

Labour to announce free winning lottery tickets for all in new campaign pledges this Monday.

Finally! A reason to vote Labour.

[Livia]

Well Labour say
many small business folks
are not able to get proper Fibre Broadband

And those in Long away locations
are getting the Free British Broadband
first, that will cost more than
£20Billion, though.


Labour think this a Vote Winner
BT shares have dropped well down,

The Tories pledged, back in September, £5bn to extend gigabit broadband to everyone by 2025.

[arista]

The Tories pledged, back in September, £5bn to extend gigabit broadband to everyone by 2025.


Yes they did
But Labour have it "Free"
so Massive difference

[Oliver_W]

With their "we're coming after private schools, and the only places you can send your kids are the Labour-approved state schools" nonsense, I'm not sure I'd trust the version of the internet they'd offer.

[arista]

With their "we're coming after private schools, and the only places you can send your kids are the Labour-approved state schools" nonsense, I'm not sure I'd trust the version of the internet they'd offer.


Yes that pledge was a error
and needs correcting

[Livia]

Yes they did
But Labour have it "Free"
so Massive difference

Yes... one party is in power and can make a sensible offer , and one is pledging it as an election promise with no idea how they'd pay for it. Still no mention of how they're going to pay for it. Staff costs will rise because they'll be closing down foreign call centres.... if it happens,"if" being the operative word, it would turn into a massive black hole into which public money would be poured.

[Livia]

With their "we're coming after private schools, and the only places you can send your kids are the Labour-approved state schools" nonsense, I'm not sure I'd trust the version of the internet they'd offer.

Well I can understand that. Most of their kids have gone through the private school system... they can afford to close them now. Ask Diane Abbott... vehemently against private schools.... except for her own son, of course.

Some are more equal than others.

[arista]

Yes... one party is in power and can make a sensible offer , and one is pledging it as an election promise with no idea how they'd pay for it. Still no mention of how they're going to pay for it. Staff costs will rise because they'll be closing down foreign call centres.... if it happens,"if" being the operative word, it would turn into a massive black hole into which public money would be poured.

Well right now Corbyn is in Meetings in Central London
with Unions as well, to do the fully costed Manifesto
this weekend.


Now reports that the Conservatives
are not doing there's until the End of November
is CRAZY/

[Twosugars]

It won't be free anyway, taxes will go up
Yes for companies like Google
So you are saying there are no uk call centres or other staff at any of the broadband providers? Maybe the Indians have developed Glaswegian accents to fool the customer because last time I rang a Virgin call centre I spoke to someone in Glasgow

:laugh: and where did I say that? Some are here others are not
Are you saying there are no call centres abroad servicing UK ISPs? :hehe:

[Cherie]

Yes for companies like Google





:laugh: and where did I say that? Some are here others are not
Are you saying there are no call centres abroad servicing UK ISPs? :hehe:

Never said that at all? it was Marsh who mentioned Indian call centres solely ignoring that there are also UK bases and you continued the theme

and Google will upsticks

[Twosugars]

Never said that at all? it was Marsh who mentioned Indian call centres solely ignoring that there are also UK bases and you continued the theme

and Google will upsticks

And Marsh was right, some of them are in India.
You were saying about Glasgow centre for Virgin. I'm also with Virgin and have had many calls to and from their Indian call centre as well as a Scottish one.

Marsh was also right to single out call centres abroad bc theres no reason to think labour plans would deprive uk centres of work. The nationalised broadband will require customer service too.

[Cherie]

And Marsh was right, some of them are in India.
You were saying about Glasgow centre for Virgin. I'm also with Virgin and have had many calls to and from their Indian call centre as well as a Scottish one.

Marsh was also right to single out call centres abroad bc theres no reason to think labour plans would deprive uk centres of work. The nationalised broadband will require customer service too.

Yes I know there are call centres in India, no one lives under a rock :laugh:

[Kizzy]

I'm shocked this isn't more popular...isn't this akin to the sovereignty and nationalism we wanted with brexit? British owned companies, British jobs for British people?
It's a brexiteers wet dream isn't it...So what's the prob?

[Livia]

Ahhhh…. the old Soviet nostalgist... Even the actual Soviets gave it up eventually.

[arista]

I'm shocked this isn't more popular...isn't this akin to the sovereignty and nationalism we wanted with brexit? British owned companies, British jobs for British people?
It's a brexiteers wet dream isn't it...So what's the prob?


On "Any Questions BBCR4"
last night they fear Government Control
on your internet.

Now Kizzy - Even you can understand that.

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

On "Any Questions BBCR4"
last night they fear Government Control
on your internet.

Now Kizzy - Even you can understand that.

Even I? don't be so damn rude!

This were the boot on the other foot be decried as scaremongering. Where is the suggestion that broadband would be controlled any more tightly than it is under private enterprise?

[Kizzy]

Ahhhh…. the old Soviet nostalgist... Even the actual Soviets gave it up eventually.

So we dont want British jobs for British people.. or sovereignty, Wasn't brexit based on that principle?

Were they being communists when that was being touted?

[arista]

Even I? don't be so damn rude!

This were the boot on the other foot be decried as scaremongering. Where is the suggestion that broadband would be controlled any more tightly than it is under private enterprise?


We will find out soon
once its in the Labour Manifesto.

And you must understand
having total control over the whole UK internet
(as in the feed from any company will all go Free)
can be Dangerous.
New Terms and Conditions Etc.


Australia wanted this
and Failed to get it done

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

You can be either for or anti this, but it's not soviet style anything, and it isn't communism.

[Kizzy]

We will find out soon
once its in the Labour Manifesto.

And you must understand
having total control over the whole UK internet
(as in the feed from any company will all go Free)
can be Dangerous.
New Terms and Conditions Etc.


Australia wanted this
and Failed to get it done
Again... why would it be any more dangerous than broadband provided by private companies?

I don't see the Australians as communists, far from it.
Maybe the failings there were analysed, identified and rectified by the shadow cabinet?

Rather than listen to the reactionary squealing of the nay sayers I understand it is important to be in posession of the facts, therefore I'll wait for the manifesto to be able to give a reasoned response.

[Kizzy]

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Well well well... just as rail is owned by the German and Dutch govt. So its ok for foreign governments to own our infrastructure but not us?.. got it! :laugh:

[arista]

Again... why would it be any more dangerous than broadband provided by private companies?

I don't see the Australians as communists, far from it.
Maybe the failings there were analysed, identified and rectified by the shadow cabinet?

Rather than listen to the reactionary squealing of the nay sayers I understand it is important to be in posession of the facts, therefore I'll wait for the manifesto to be able to give a reasoned response.


No
they are not
but they wanted Free internet to all
but it failed.




Terms and Conditions matter
we will find out in the Manifesto
by Labour this week.

[arista]

You can be either for or anti this, but it's not soviet style anything, and it isn't communism.


Not that simple
New Digital Rights
under New Terms and Conditions
of the Government.

[Kizzy]

Not that simple
New Digital Rights
under New Terms and Conditions
of the Government.

What new rights... there are independent regulators now and there will be after :/

In fact business at the moment don't think the regulations go far enough!

https://www.cbi.org.uk/media-centre/articles/business-backs-uk-to-be-world-leader-in-internet-regulation-but-proposals-fall-short/

[Marsh.]

Never said that at all? it was Marsh who mentioned Indian call centres solely ignoring that there are also UK bases and you continued the theme

I didn't ignore it at all. I was using an example.

[Marsh.]

It won't be free anyway, taxes will go up

ie. companies who aren't paying what they should will have to.

[The Slim Reaper]

Not that simple
New Digital Rights
under New Terms and Conditions
of the Government.

I just said it's not communism, and you say it's not that simple?

Why would anyone use our communist healthcare system in that case?

[Kizzy]

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[Cherie]

So Labour are going to grab back a company that Germany hold the most shares at a price they decide themselves, how is that possible?

[James]

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Deutsche Telekom was privatised in 1995. The German government owns a small share of it, not controlling.

I'd imagine there are lots of different ways to get Internet access in Germany.

A big problem if we had a nationalised monopoly is it doesn't give people a choice, so there is little incentive to improve the service.

[Kizzy]

Deutsche Telekom was privatised in 1995. The German government owns a small share of it, not controlling.

I'd imagine there are lots of different ways to get Internet access in Germany.

A big problem if we had a nationalised monopoly is it doesn't give people a choice, so there is little incentive to improve the service.

So you're saying you don't want free full fibre broadband, you want normal or part fibre and pay £30+ pm for it?
There's just no pleasing some people.

[Zizu]

So you're saying you don't want free full fibre broadband, you want normal or part fibre and pay £30+ pm for it?

There's just no pleasing some people.



It’s just typical pie in the Sky nonsense from politicians !!

There’s a few companies who’ve already said it will cost TEN times what Labour have predicted... whoever gets in power will need to spend money on things more important.


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[Kizzy]

Untill the manifesto is published they don't know how it's going to be funded... Let's wait till next week, untill then I suggest people put the pitchforks down.

[The Slim Reaper]

It’s just typical pie in the Sky nonsense from politicians !!

There’s a few companies who’ve already said it will cost TEN times what Labour have predicted... whoever gets in power will need to spend money on things more important.


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You could well be right and it could all be pie in the sky, but why does no one ever hold he tories to account for spaffing 100m up the wall on no deal propaganda and preparation? Why is no one demanding that they release the brexit costings and assessment? Why is it ok that we've become one of the greatest western countries to funnel your money through to tax havens?

All these exceptions we make to help the tories give their mates preferential treatment, and yet labour want to improve the lives of ordinary everyday people, and suddenly folks turn into accountants.

This double standard is why we can't have nice things.

[Zizu]

You could well be right and it could all be pie in the sky, but why does no one ever hold he tories to account for spaffing 100m up the wall on no deal propaganda and preparation? Why is no one demanding that they release the brexit costings and assessment? Why is it ok that we've become one of the greatest western countries to funnel your money through to tax havens?



All these exceptions we make to help the tories give their mates preferential treatment, and yet labour want to improve the lives of ordinary everyday people, and suddenly folks turn into accountants.



This double standard is why we can't have nice things.



I read somewhere that the tories promised something like 30,000 new houses ... three years later not one had been built..

They’re all vagabonds


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[The Slim Reaper]

I read somewhere that the tories promised something like 30,000 new houses ... three years later not one had been built..

They’re all vagabonds


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Who are you voting for?

[Livia]

I read somewhere that the tories promised something like 30,000 new houses ... three years later not one had been built..

They’re all vagabonds


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"Figures released from the Department for Communities and Local Government show that housebuilding is at its highest level since 2008.

The latest data shows that the number of new build homes that have started on site has surged to a decade high, with 164,960 new homes started in the year to June 2017. And with more than 153,000 new homes completed during the same period, housebuilding is going from strength to strength.

Housebuilding is strong across the UK, with Gloucestershire, South Derbyshire and South Norfolk amongst the strongest areas in delivering high levels of starts.

The figures show an increase of 13% from 2016, with new build homes increasing by more than three-quarters since 2009."


https://www.ukconstructionmedia.co.uk/news/latest-data-reveals-strong-housebuilding/

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"Figures released from the Department for Communities and Local Government show that housebuilding is at its highest level since 2008.



The latest data shows that the number of new build homes that have started on site has surged to a decade high, with 164,960 new homes started in the year to June 2017. And with more than 153,000 new homes completed during the same period, housebuilding is going from strength to strength.



Housebuilding is strong across the UK, with Gloucestershire, South Derbyshire and South Norfolk amongst the strongest areas in delivering high levels of starts.



The figures show an increase of 13% from 2016, with new build homes increasing by more than three-quarters since 2009."





https://www.ukconstructionmedia.co.uk/news/latest-data-reveals-strong-housebuilding/It was council/housing association houses that were promised I believe, and it was by T-May in 2017 so they can't even claim that it was sunk by Brexit. Although I suppose poor T'resa maybe actually believed she'd get 5 years and that Brexit would be done by March 2019, so maybe she did plan to deliver on that. Probably not. But maybe!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Does Jeremy Corbyn even have the internet?

I kind of see him still using a Nokia and not being on wifi at home?

[Kizzy]

"Figures released from the Department for Communities and Local Government show that housebuilding is at its highest level since 2008.

The latest data shows that the number of new build homes that have started on site has surged to a decade high, with 164,960 new homes started in the year to June 2017. And with more than 153,000 new homes completed during the same period, housebuilding is going from strength to strength.

Housebuilding is strong across the UK, with Gloucestershire, South Derbyshire and South Norfolk amongst the strongest areas in delivering high levels of starts.

The figures show an increase of 13% from 2016, with new build homes increasing by more than three-quarters since 2009."


https://www.ukconstructionmedia.co.uk/news/latest-data-reveals-strong-housebuilding/

Are any of these council homes or anything that could be classed as affordable?
I don't doubt that homes are being built in the UK but it's private companies building them.

[Livia]

It was council/housing association houses that were promised I believe, and it was by T-May in 2017 so they can't even claim that it was sunk by Brexit. Although I suppose poor T'resa maybe actually believed she'd get 5 years and that Brexit would be done by March 2019, so maybe she did plan to deliver on that. Probably not. But maybe!

I was responding to someone who said that "not one house" had been built. I live in South Norfolk, one of the top three councils for building houses and I can tell you that it's not all executive homes, lots of houses and flats for rental have been built. And top three councils in the country for building houses are Gloucestershire, South Norfolk and South Derbyshire. All Conservative councils... the heartless b*stards.

[Kizzy]

I was responding to someone who said that "not one house" had been built. I live in South Norfolk, one of the top three councils for building houses and I can tell you that it's not all executive homes, lots of houses and flats for rental have been built. And top three councils in the country for building houses are Gloucestershire, South Norfolk and South Derbyshire. All Conservative councils... the heartless b*stards.

Again are these flats in the leafy burbs affordable?

[Zizu]

Who are you voting for?



Nobody .. don’t trust any ONE of them ..


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[Zizu]

It was council/housing association houses that were promised I believe, and it was by T-May in 2017 so they can't even claim that it was sunk by Brexit. Although I suppose poor T'resa maybe actually believed she'd get 5 years and that Brexit would be done by March 2019, so maybe she did plan to deliver on that. Probably not. But maybe!



Yes that sounds familiar ..


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[Beso]

Labour to bring in new law that makes stuffing a turkey at xmas a sexual offence, to appease vegans and vegetarians.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Beso]

Made with reindeer.