There are 1.2 million illegal immigrants in the UK - highest in Europe!

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2019/10/08/TELEMMGLPICT000085354127_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberW d9EgFPZtcLiMQfyf2A9a6I9YchsjMeADBa08.jpeg?imwidth= 400



Britain has up to 1.2 million illegal immigrants, a quarter of all those that
have unlawfully entered Europe, an authoritative study has revealed.


The number of illegal immigrants in the UK has doubled in a decade with
more than half having lived illegally in the UK for more than five
years ( and of course using the NHS) and a third more than ten years,

according to the pan-European analysis by the respected Pew Research Centre.


Only Germany has a similar number of illegal immigrants with between one
million and 1.2 million, which means that it and the UK account for half of all
those who have unlawfully entered Europe.


The research - the first study of its kind in a decade to cover all 32 European
nations - exposes the scale of the migrant crisis and how Britain’s ineffective
border controls have failed to stem illegal immigration.


David Wood, former head of immigration enforcement at the Home Office, said
officials knew the scale of the problem from secret internal estimates which
showed at least 150,000 foreign nationals enter the UK illegally each
year and then disappear into the black economy.


Commenting on the figures, Professor Andrew Geddes, of the European
University, said the migration crisis had undermined the public’s trust in the
ability of Governments to deal with immigration. “It had negative effects on
attitudes to the competence of Governments to deal with it,” he said.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/13/12-million-illegal-immigrants-uk-quarter-entire-total-europe/

staggering

[Nicky91]

yeah so

then send your military to the countries where they are from (solve their conflicts) and then they can go back


wouldn't YOU flee your country if it had any political conflict, a warzone too difficult to live in? now that is the question

rather than being racist and being anti-immigrants

[Crimson Dynamo]

yeah so

then send your military to the countries where they are from (solve their conflicts) and then they can go back


wouldn't YOU flee your country if it had any political conflict, a warzone too difficult to live in? now that is the question

rather than being racist and being anti-immigrants

more than half come from China, Vietnam, India, Pakistan

what war is going on there?

[Nicky91]

more than half come from China, Vietnam, India, Pakistan

what war is going on there?

idk about those countries, perhaps some of those people disagree with actions from their governments


but other refugees come from Libya, Sudan, Iraq, Iran those come from warzones

[Crimson Dynamo]

idk about those countries, perhaps some of those people disagree with actions from their governments


but other refugees come from Libya, Sudan, Iraq, Iran those come from warzones

there is no war in Iran, Sudan has a peace process and Iraq and Libya are not at war but have terror issues.

[Twosugars]

more than half come from China, Vietnam, India, Pakistan

what war is going on there?

There will be more of them after brexit. And legally too thanks to trade agreements Britain will have to sign. Brexit Britain

[Crimson Dynamo]

There will be more of them after brexit. And legally too thanks to trade agreements Britain will have to sign. Brexit Britain

there is no issue with legal immigrants, i thought you would be supportive of legal migration as it is beneficial to the UK :conf:

[Twosugars]

there is no issue with legal immigrants, i thought you would be supportive of legal migration as it is beneficial to the UK :conf:

I thought brexiters wanted less immigration, legal or not?

Dont worry about my support, worry about all those who voted for brexit expecting less immigration. :hee:

[Nicky91]

I thought brexiters wanted less immigration, legal or not?

Dont worry about my support, worry about all those who voted for brexit expecting less immigration. :hee:

exactly, and hopefully britain won't resort to massive deportations otherwise britain would go same route as nazi Germany and we don't want that

[Crimson Dynamo]

I thought brexiters wanted less immigration, legal or not?

Dont worry about my support, worry about all those who voted for brexit expecting less immigration. :hee:

you do not have a clue why people voted in elections or referendums. there is no such thing as a "brexiteer" its just a media made up word

controlled immigration not illegal immigration. maybe thats partly why A and E times are so long in your country?

[Livia]

you do not have a clue why people voted in elections or referendums. there is no such thing as a "brexiteer" its just a media made up word

controlled immigration not illegal immigration. maybe thats partly why A and E times are so long in your country?

Quite.

I'm all for legal refugees coming here, through the UN or by other legal means. If people are still coming in illegally from countries that have never had a connection with this one - like Vietnam for instance - and where there is no war going on, then they need to be deported. We're more than 60 million now. Doesn't matter how many more houses are built we won't be able to cope if the population rises very much more.

[Cherie]

I thought brexiters wanted less immigration, legal or not?

Dont worry about my support, worry about all those who voted for brexit expecting less immigration. :hee:

I think that is a myth, I think most are behind a points based system like Australia, I recall a lot of people on TiBB were bigging up Australia and their tough stance when they denied access to Tommy Robinson, so surely they should equally be bigging up some form of proper legalised immigration for the UK.

[Livia]

I think that is a myth, I think most are behind a points based system like Australia, I recall a lot of people on TiBB were bigging up Australia and their tough stance when they denied access to Tommy Robinson, so surely they should equally be bigging up some form of proper legalised immigration for the UK.

You're so wise. When I take over the country I'm making you my Home Secretary.

[Nicky91]

You're so wise. When I take over the country I'm making you my Home Secretary.

it's good to see you being so ambitious Livia :love: :love:

[Twosugars]

I think that is a myth, I think most are behind a points based system like Australia, I recall a lot of people on TiBB were bigging up Australia and their tough stance when they denied access to Tommy Robinson, so surely they should equally be bigging up some form of proper legalised immigration for the UK.

Not sure about it being a myth.
But let's wait and see what the reaction will be when we have brexit and immigration remains as large if not larger. Legal of course, thanks to trade agreements with china or india

[Kizzy]

Quick question. If they're illegal and nobody knows who or where they are how is it known there are 1.2 million of them?
Could it be it's the torygraph whipping up anti immigrant sentiment pre election?

I also have an issue with the reliance on a points based system which in theory is ok, however some sectors rely on workers who would achieve 0 points.

[The Slim Reaper]

Quick question. If they're illegal and nobody knows who or where they are how is it known there are 1.2 million of them?
Could it be it's the torygraph whipping up anti immigrant sentiment pre election?

I also have an issue with the reliance on a points based system which in theory is ok, however some sectors rely on workers who would achieve 0 points.

On the back of Priti Patels attacks on immigrants yesterday...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Quick question. If they're illegal and nobody knows who or where they are how is it known there are 1.2 million of them?


the respected Pew Research Centre which i believe you have quoted before in the past

[Kazanne]

I think that is a myth, I think most are behind a points based system like Australia, I recall a lot of people on TiBB were bigging up Australia and their tough stance when they denied access to Tommy Robinson, so surely they should equally be bigging up some form of proper legalised immigration for the UK.

You're on form today Cherie :wavey:

[Beso]

Kick the ****ers out.

[Kizzy]

not sure about it being a myth.
But let's wait and see what the reaction will be when we have brexit and immigration remains as large if not larger. Legal of course, thanks to trade agreements with china or india

:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

[Kizzy]

the respected Pew Research Centre which i believe you have quoted before in the past

I don't think I have no. As I've said what of the unskilled workers to do the jobs we won't as is commonly quoted?.. Could I add the reason 'Tommy' couldnt get into Australia was imo more to do with his criminal record than his lack of points.

[Livia]

I'd like to see us getting past bringing in unskilled workers from abroad to do jobs that the British unemployed think are beneath them.

[Kizzy]

More stereotyping...sigh.

[Beso]

It's time the British youth woke up and realised the world isn't paved with gold and sometimes to make ends meet you have to do seemingly demeaning jobs...in the pat I have picked Brussels sprouts, picked turnips..trampled scrap into skips...worked ia fish factory..amongst other things...all before I was 20..all so I could have things I wanted.

[Nicky91]

It's time the British youth woke up and realised the world isn't paved with gold and sometimes to make ends meet you have to do seemingly demeaning jobs...in the pat I have picked Brussels sprouts, picked turnips..trampled scrap into skips...worked ia fish factory..amongst other things...all before I was 20..all so I could have things I wanted.

No, and again being ageist :idc:

[Livia]

It's time the British youth woke up and realised the world isn't paved with gold and sometimes to make ends meet you have to do seemingly demeaning jobs...in the pat I have picked Brussels sprouts, picked turnips..trampled scrap into skips...worked ia fish factory..amongst other things...all before I was 20..all so I could have things I wanted.

I did all kinds of tedious, unsavoury crap when I was a student. And actually, I've done tedious, unsavoury crap since I graduated.

[Beso]

No, and again being ageist :idc:

I think mature adults have already realised the world isn't paved with gold, youngsters haven't realised that yet. ..call it ageist if you want..Im not really bothered.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Youth, of course, is wasted on the young...

[Kizzy]

Ok boomers calm down...

[arista]

More stereotyping...sigh.


I can understand that
but Labour is going to allow
any criminal in with their no controls.
No Immigration Control?


Illegals are a problem
still being hunted, in the UK.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ok boomers calm down...

kizzy you are 20 years too old to say that :joker:

[Kazanne]

Everyone seems to want something for nothing today that is why 'FREE' broadband is so appealing to some.You don't get anything in this life for free ,we will pay for it in the long run,personally Ide rather my taxes went on something more important

[Beso]

kizzy you are 20 years too old to say that :joker:

:joker:

[Mitchell]

Ok boomers calm down...

My queen

[Cherie]

I don't think I have no. As I've said what of the unskilled workers to do the jobs we won't as is commonly quoted?.. Could I add the reason 'Tommy' couldnt get into Australia was imo more to do with his criminal record than his lack of points.

Le Sigh of course it was his criminal record, but we can’t do that in the Uk currently someone would be screeching about their human rights..

[Kizzy]

kizzy you are 20 years too old to say that :joker:

Gen X mate... :smug:

[Kizzy]

Le Sigh of course it was his criminal record, but we can’t do that in the Uk currently someone would be screeching about their human rights..

Stop Le moving Le goalposts .. first you're moaning about a points system now it's human rights!
You want rid of human rights now?!

[Cherie]

Stop Le moving Le goalposts .. first you're moaning about a points system now it's human rights!
You want rid of human rights now?!

Yet another misinterpretation

[Kizzy]

Yet another misinterpretation

Why are you complaining about human rights then?... :/

[Cherie]

Why are you complaining about human rights then?... :/

Did Tommy have rights to enter Australia in your opinion?

[Kizzy]

I don't know I don't work for the Australian govt, like I suggested I'd have said it was his convictions for violence that hampered his application.

[Cherie]

I don't know I don't work for the Australian govt, like I suggested I'd have said it was his convictions for violence that hampered his application.

yes we all know why he was denied entry, you haven't responded to my question though

[Kizzy]

Respond to a hypothetical? .. I can't say he wouldn't be allowed entry due to it infringing his human rights if he wasn't allowed to enter this country.
It won't happen, he is a citizen. However I agree with the hate laws in place to prevent the incitement of racial hatred that prevent citizens of other countries coming here for that reason.
That has nothing to do with human rights though.

[Zizu]

Bladdy hell !!

5 years ago we thought things were bad !!




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[Zizu]

Worryingly trend

https://x.com/christineburgum/status/1550393264116736001?s=46


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[smudgie]

Labour is getting rid of them pronto.
By giving them legal status.
Not sure how many that applies to.

[bots]

Labour is getting rid of them pronto.
By giving them legal status.
Not sure how many that applies to.

it's the obvious solution, just make them legal migrants

[Vanessa]

Labour is getting rid of them pronto.
By giving them legal status.
Not sure how many that applies to.
Are they allowed to work if they're given legal status?

[arista]

Are they allowed to work if they're given legal status?



Yes that is the New Labour plan.

[Cherie]

Are they allowed to work if they're given legal status?

yes...

[Cherie]

should have been done years ago, vacancies to fill, get them out of hotels and paying for themselves

[Vanessa]

yes...

That's good. At least they can contribute.