Prince Andrew interview about links with paedophile Epstein

[Twosugars]

Prince Andrew has agreed to speak publicly for the first time about his friendship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, in a “no holds barred” interview with the BBC’s Newsnight programme to be broadcast on Saturday night.

The prince has been the subject of fierce speculation over his relationship with the financier, who was found dead in a New York jail cell three months ago.

Epstein’s accuser Virginia Giuffre claims Prince Andrew was “an abuser, a participant” in her exploitation as a teenager and says she was coerced to have sex with him.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/15/prince-andrew-to-be-quizzed-on-epstein-in-newsnight-special

[Cherie]

About time

[Crimson Dynamo]

at least he has not had ample time to get his story straight

whew

[GiRTh]

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Its quite scary when she rattles off the names involved. So sad that powerful people can just bury a story.

[Twosugars]

Yes too little too late. But at least it will bring the story back into the public eye

[arista]

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[Cherie]

mmm his comment that he had 'no recollection of ever meeting this lady' is straight out of a lawyers mouth

[arista]

mmm his comment that he had 'no recollection of ever meeting this lady' is straight out of a lawyers mouth


Yes he is trying Hard
to clear this up and say sorry for Bonking
a Fit 17 year old lady some yeas ago.

[Crimson Dynamo]

a 17 year old kid

not fully grown and not an adult

his lies last night were abhorrent

[bots]

Ive always thought Andrew was dodgy, and the interview only happened because he knows he is ****ed. Let's not forget all the threats to news organisations if they dared to publish stories that came from the royal family organisation. All complicit in covering up what he was up to and using their status and money to threaten people

[Zizu]

His nickname at the time was Randy Andy ... that’s all you need to know


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[Zizu]

Ive always thought Andrew was dodgy, and the interview only happened because he knows he is ****ed. Let's not forget all the threats to news organisations if they dared to publish stories that came from the royal family organisation. All complicit in covering up what he was up to and using their status and money to threaten people



Didn’t we see footage of him in a house with his arm around the woman in question then footage showing him letting her out the front door .. with him peeping out looking sheepish ?

Now he’s saying he doesn’t remember ‘meeting’ her ??

Is this a different woman now ??


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[Livia]

His nickname at the time was Randy Andy ... that’s all you need to know


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I think you'll find it was his nickname because it rhymed. No one here knows for sure what went on... I'll wait for the interview rather than lapping up all the salacious gossip.

[Livia]

Didn’t we see footage of him in a house with his arm around the woman in question then footage showing him letting her out the front door .. with him peeping out looking sheepish ?

Now he’s saying he doesn’t remember ‘meeting’ her ??

Is this a different woman now ??


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Wow.... you should think about a career as a High Court Judge if you can look at someone you've never met and make a judgement like that on so little information.

[Twosugars]

Ive always thought Andrew was dodgy, and the interview only happened because he knows he is ****ed. Let's not forget all the threats to news organisations if they dared to publish stories that came from the royal family organisation. All complicit in covering up what he was up to and using their status and money to threaten people

I hope more witnesses come forward

[Zizu]

I think you'll find it was his nickname because it rhymed. No one here knows for sure what went on... I'll wait for the interview rather than lapping up all the salacious gossip.



Look up deluded and denial ... sometime ..

I’m betting you’re too young to know anything about the young Andrew in his ‘prime’

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein-orgy-virginia-roberts-giuffre-channel-4-dispatches-a9164566.html%3Famp

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[Livia]

Look up deluded and denial ... sometime ..

I’m betting you’re too young to know anything about the young Andrew in his ‘prime’

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein-orgy-virginia-roberts-giuffre-channel-4-dispatches-a9164566.html%3Famp

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I'm a 39 year old lawyer. Which is why I'm waiting for evidence before I jump on your bandwagon with my pitchfork.

[Kizzy]

Why is anyone surprised, have we forgotten Saville and his facilitators?..
Nothing will happen, he'll apologise, she'll be discredited and it'll all be swept under the carpet.

[Zizu]

I'm a 39 year old lawyer. Which is why I'm waiting for evidence before I jump on your bandwagon with my pitchfork.



So he’d been sowing wild oats before you were even born ... nuff said


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[user104658]

Didn’t we see footage of him in a house with his arm around the woman in question then footage showing him letting her out the front door .. with him peeping out looking sheepish ?

Now he’s saying he doesn’t remember ‘meeting’ her ??


Like Cherie says, that's why it's the lawyer-talk line of "I have no recollection of meeting", not "I have never met". If or when evidence comes up that he HAS met the person in question, if he had said outright that he hasn't met her then that's revealed to be a flat out lie. If he simply says that he "doesn't recall" meeting her - then it can just be an "Oh, well I don't remember her".

[LaLaLand]

After watching the C4 investigation/doc about this man's relationship with Epstein I have nothing but disgust for him.

It's shocking how he's not locked up yet somehow still unsurprising. Protected for life regardless. A very, VERY shady man.

[Kizzy]

I'm a 39 year old lawyer. Which is why I'm waiting for evidence before I jump on your bandwagon with my pitchfork.

Unless you're eating a sandwich in a train station then you don't need evidence that the man is a homophobe.

[Zizu]

Like Cherie says, that's why it's the lawyer-talk line of "I have no recollection of meeting", not "I have never met". If or when evidence comes up that he HAS met the person in question, if he had said outright that he hasn't met her then that's revealed to be a flat out lie. If he simply says that he "doesn't recall" meeting her - then it can just be an "Oh, well I don't remember her".



..... and he doesn’t recall showing her out of the front door and then peeping round very sheepishly ;)


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[Twosugars]

Unless you're eating a sandwich in a train station then you don't need evidence that the man is a homophobe.

:joker:

[Kizzy]

Where's Koo? She'll know...

[Marsh.]

mmm his comment that he had 'no recollection of ever meeting this lady' is straight out of a lawyers mouth

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Unless you're eating a sandwich in a train station then you don't need evidence that the man is a homophobe.

You just have us the evidence

He was eating in a no eating area


I love inadvertent video justice:hee:

[Marsh.]

I think you'll find it was his nickname because it rhymed.

He was nicknamed that because he, and his wife, shagged around a lot.

[Marsh.]

He was eating in a no eating area


What's homophobic about that?

[Livia]

So he’d been sowing wild oats before you were even born ... nuff said


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And all you know about his wild oats or anything else is what you read in the papers.

[Firewire]

I'm a 39 year old lawyer. Which is why I'm waiting for evidence before I jump on your bandwagon with my pitchfork.

I thought we didn’t have lawyers in the UK?

I’m sure Ashley will be able to clarify.

[Livia]

He was nicknamed that because he, and his wife, shagged around a lot.

Lots of people do.

[Livia]

I thought we didn’t have lawyers in the UK?

I’m sure Ashley will be able to clarify.


You thought we didn't have lawyers in the UK? Okay.... What does the fact that you're misinformed have to do with this thread? Or are you just baiting, Firewire?

[Marsh.]

Lots of people do.

Right, but it goes beyond "it rhymes". His nickname had a reason related to his actions.

[Livia]

Right, but it goes beyond "it rhymes". His nickname had a reason related to his actions.

Those actions that were splashed all over the tabloids? Having the nickname Randy Andy doesn't make him automatically guilty over this. He might be... I'll wait till I know more. If shagging around was an offence, half the people I know would be banged up.

[Marsh.]

Those actions that were splashed all over the tabloids? Having the nickname Randy Andy doesn't make him automatically guilty over this. He might be... I'll wait till I know more. If shagging around was an offence, half the people I know would be banged up.

I never said it did. :suspect:

I said Randy Andy related to his well-known seedy behaviour and wasn't chosen just "because it rhymed".

[Livia]

I never said it did. :suspect:

I said Randy Andy related to his well-known seedy behaviour and wasn't chosen just "because it rhymed".

His "seedy behaviour" was only "well known" because of the tabloids. And no, you didn't say his reputation makes his guilty. But it was intimated by the poster to whom I was responding. She (or indeed, he) said "His nickname at the time was Randy Andy ... that’s all you need to know". Not that it's ever a chore to talk to you, Marshy.

[Marsh.]

His "seedy behaviour" was only "well known" because of the tabloids.

So. :nono: He was hardly shy about it. Neither was Fergie for that matter.

[Marsh.]

But speaking of Fergie, her comments make me feel sick tbh. Not that I expected any different.

[Livia]

But speaking of Fergie, her comments make me feel sick tbh. Not that I expected any different.

I haven't heard her comments. I'm not keen on either of them to be honest. I have heard they changed the nursery rhyme in Fergie's honour, to, The Grand Old Duchess of York.... who had ten thousand men.

[Kizzy]

Nothing like attempting to slut shame an ex royal whilst simutanously defending her ex.

[Marsh.]

I haven't heard her comments. I'm not keen on either of them to be honest. I have heard they changed the nursery rhyme in Fergie's honour, to, The Grand Old Duchess of York.... who had ten thousand men.

:joker::joker::joker:

[Marsh.]

Nothing like attempting to slut shame an ex royal whilst simutanously defending her ex.

Tbf, being a man-slag isn't proof of paedophilia.

[Zizu]

Right, but it goes beyond "it rhymes". His nickname had a reason related to his actions.



Correct ..

Omg these royalists ...

I bet they believe that politicians are caring , honest types ..


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[Zizu]

Those actions that were splashed all over the tabloids? Having the nickname Randy Andy doesn't make him automatically guilty over this. He might be... I'll wait till I know more. If shagging around was an offence, half the people I know would be banged up.



Who said it was an offence ... it’s just part of the context.. in his prime he could have any woman / girl he wanted ...


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[Kizzy]

Tbf, being a man-slag isn't proof of paedophilia.

I didn't say it was.. My point being if the randy Andy tag is just gutter press headline grabbing then why so eager to latch onto the same headlines about fergie to the point you're quoting unsavory rhymes?

[LaLaLand]

Literally couldn't believe what I was seeing/hearing in that interview.

Oh my God.

[Livia]

Who said it was an offence ... it’s just part of the context.. in his prime he could have any woman / girl he wanted ...


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Like Prince Harry then. He was the "spare" like Andrew was. Young men. Doing what young men do.

I'm not a fan of Andrew. If he's guilty I'll condemn him with everyone else.

[Zizu]

Like Prince Harry then. He was the "spare" like Andrew was. Young men. Doing what young men do.



I'm not a fan of Andrew. If he's guilty I'll condemn him with everyone else.



What did you think about the interview tonight


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[Marsh.]

I don't think a young man in his teens/20s (Harry) doing what young single men do should in anyway be compared to a married man cheating on his wife and being extremely close with his paedo friend.

[Marsh.]

Like Cherie says, that's why it's the lawyer-talk line of "I have no recollection of meeting", not "I have never met". If or when evidence comes up that he HAS met the person in question, if he had said outright that he hasn't met her then that's revealed to be a flat out lie. If he simply says that he "doesn't recall" meeting her - then it can just be an "Oh, well I don't remember her".

There's a photo of them together.

[Zizu]

Literally couldn't believe what I was seeing/hearing in that interview.

Oh my God.



Yeah .... “ after he was convicted I decided to visit him in the US to tell him face to face that it would be wrong for us to be seen together ... we had that conversation in Central Park... and I stayed with him for 4 days ( maybe 6) ..”


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[jet]

A few things don't ring true...the girl says Andrew was drinking heavily and dancing when he is the known teetotaler of the royal family and it was always said in the past he doesn't dance because he couldn't dance to save his life...
Also he provided a alibi for a date she said he was with her - and he says he had taken his daughters on that date to a fast food place or something which he remembers vividly because it was the first time he had ever done that. Surely he wouldnt have said that in an interview to the nation if that was a lie and it came to court?

I'm veering more on his side right now, because there is no definate proof against him. Waving bye bye to a girl in a pic could just mean he met her socially - and pics are so easily doctored now too....he says Epstein was probably hiding his activities from him, as a member of the royal family..Makes more sense than Andrew haing sex with underage girls, why would he when he was the 'handsome one' who could have his pick? I remember just after his divorce from Fergie it was reported that he was too boring and too sensible and dutiful, while she was a free spirit - the reason they broke up - love that they still mean so much to each other and are still together though!

[jet]

I don't think a young man in his teens/20s (Harry) doing what young single men do should in anyway be compared to a married man cheating on his wife and being extremely close with his paedo friend.

Umm...actually it was Fergie who cheated on Andrew (who was on board ship on naval duties at the time) with her 'financial advisior' (photos of her, topless, having her toes sucked by same in the tabloids, spelled the end of their marriage). This was well before the Andrew/Epstein thing....

[jet]

There's a photo of them together.

Which proves what? That he must remember having intimate sex with her? Maybe she was just another someone he met casually among mutual friends taking the opportunity of having a photo op with a member of the royal family...and then the Epstein thing explodes....
I'd need more proof than a relaxed, happy looking photo op to say he took advantage of that underage girl against her will....
I hate this thing that men are accused and accusations against them are so readily believed without proof. I no longer give my daughters friends from uni who descend on this old fool after a night out a lift home if they need it...I call a taxi for them...and pay for it, may I add.... I used to escort them safely home, without a thought, and now I'm wouldn't even consider it because I'm afraid to. What a world, eh?

[bots]

there have been accusations about Andrew going back to when he was 18. Obviously none of us know for sure as we were not there. I can make a judgement on his character though, and I don't like him at all

[Ammi]

...it’s also trying to get that balance of thought between the ‘accused’ and the ‘accuser’...if there is truth, I cant imagine what it must feel like/how helpless it must all feel for anyone accusing him and knowing what their fight will be to be believed ...

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Disastrous". That's the Mail on Sunday's verdict on Prince Andrew's TV interview, which makes the front of several of the Sunday newspapers after airing on Saturday evening.

The paper attacks him for not showing any sympathy for Jeffrey Epstein's victims. "Not one single word of remorse" is its front page headline.

The Sunday Mirror says that any reasonable person would be ashamed of being friends with the billionaire sex offender.

But, according to the paper, the Duke of York spent more time dwelling on the misery the scandal had caused him.

The Sunday Times reports that one palace source described the interview as "one of the single worst PR moves in recent history".

The duke's spin doctor is said to have left his job two weeks ago after advising Prince Andrew not to appear on Newsnight.

The article also suggests that aides to the Queen and the Prince of Wales regarded the decision to go ahead with the interview with "incredulity and alarm".


So that went well

[Beso]

..... and he doesn’t recall showing her out of the front door and then peeping round very sheepishly ;)


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That was a different girl I believe.

[Beso]

He was nicknamed that because he, and his wife, shagged around a lot.

He was called that before he met her.

[bots]

who would choose to go and spend 4 days at someones apartment that they were going to break up a friendship with. It's obviously bollocks

[Beso]

Who said it was an offence ... it’s just part of the context.. in his prime he could have any woman / girl he wanted ...


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Yet he settled for fergie.:joker:

[Beso]

And I'm sure the fat freak was sweating during the royal it's a knock out.

[user104658]

"I decided to visit him in the US to tell him face to face that it would be wrong for us to be seen together"

"... and I stayed with him for 4 days ( maybe 6) ..”


"BUT AFTER THIS WEEK never again you silly ol' pervert you."

[Zizu]

That was a different girl I believe.



Not according to that news report last night ... maybe someone else will know .

They showed ‘those two photos’ of the young girl then flicked back to interviewing her as an adult woman ..


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[Marsh.]

Which proves what? That he must remember having intimate sex with her? Maybe she was just another someone he met casually among mutual friends taking the opportunity of having a photo op with a member of the royal family...and then the Epstein thing explodes....
I'd need more proof than a relaxed, happy looking photo op to say he took advantage of that underage girl against her will....
I hate this thing that men are accused and accusations against them are so readily believed without proof. I no longer give my daughters friends from uni who descend on this old fool after a night out a lift home if they need it...I call a taxi for them...and pay for it, may I add.... I used to escort them safely home, without a thought, and now I'm wouldn't even consider it because I'm afraid to. What a world, eh?


I was responding to a poster who mentioned evidence they had MET.

Nobody mentioned sex so take your ridiculous rant to someone who gives a sh*t Jet.

[Marsh.]

Umm...actually it was Fergie who cheated on Andrew (who was on board ship on naval duties at the time) with her 'financial advisior' (photos of her, topless, having her toes sucked by same in the tabloids, spelled the end of their marriage). This was well before the Andrew/Epstein thing....

They both shagged about. Slut shaming the wife and defending the husband doesn't suit you.

[Marsh.]

He was called that before he met her.

.... because he shagged around a lot. I don't recall suggesting he saved it solely for his marriage.

[Marsh.]

That was a different girl I believe.

And a Prince Andrew look-a-like!!

[Beso]

And a Prince Andrew look-a-like!!

The girl in the picture of him sweating at the front door isn't the girl.making the accusations.

[jet]

They both shagged about. Slut shaming the wife and defending the husband doesn't suit you.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Andrew 'shagged about' while married to Fergie, it was her infidelity that led to the end of the marriage. That isn't slut shaming, that is Fact.
You flippantly say otherwise, so maybe you could tell us what you think you know about his infidelities while married?

[jet]

I was responding to a poster who mentioned evidence they had MET.

Nobody mentioned sex so take your ridiculous rant to someone who gives a sh*t Jet.

When you grow up, perhaps you'll look back to the the days when you thought you were being smart and cool and realize you were just being rude and nasty.

[Marsh.]

When you grow up, perhaps you'll look back to the the days when you thought you were being smart and cool and realize you were just being rude and nasty.

Coming from the guy who can't understand a simple sentence.

If you study harder you may come out of school with some qualifications and improve on your reading comprehension.

[Marsh.]

There is no evidence whatsoever that Andrew 'shagged about' while married to Fergie, it was her infidelity that led to the end of the marriage. That isn't slut shaming, that is Fact.
You flippantly say otherwise, so maybe you could tell us what you think you know about his infidelities while married?

Asking me to provide my knowledge whilst claiming to be all knowing about the situation yourself? :joker:

[Twosugars]

Queens former press secretary: If Prince Andrew thinks he's drawn a line in the sand over the Epstein saga, he's in cuckoo land

[Twosugars]

A number of businesses, charities and educational organisations are severing or reconsidering their ties with Prince Andrew.

BT said on Wednesday it will no longer work with a company that counts the Duke of York as a patron. The prince is reported to either be a patron of or have an official role at more than 200 charities, including two dozen which mainly work with children or young people.

Andrew’s entrepreneurial scheme Pitch@Palace faces an exodus of support from organisations seemingly fearing damage to their reputation if associated with the Queen’s second son.

Pitch@Palace, which hosts pitching events for small companies, has removed its webpage listing corporate supporters but companies have made public statements dissociating themselves from the organisation.

KPMG
The accountancy firm, a founding Pitch@Palace partner, said on Monday that its sponsorship contract had expired at the end of October and would not be renewed.

Standard Chartered
On Tuesday, the banking services company said it would not be renewing its sponsorship of Pitch@Palace – which claims to have generated more than 6,000 jobs – in December, citing “commercial reasons”.

English National Ballet
The company was asked to confirm whether Andrew would remain as patron after reports that senior figures within the institution were lobbying for him to be removed. A spokesperson said trusts were discussing the matter.

Aon
Insurance company Aon asked for its logo to be removed from the PitchPalace website, saying it had never been involved in the scheme in any capacity.

Advertising Week Europe
The organisation, another supporter of Pitch@Palace, was reported to not be inviting it to be part of its annual conference in March.

Huddersfield University
A student panel has passed a motion to lobby the duke to resign as its chancellor. It read: “We as students at the University of Huddersfield and members of Huddersfield students’ union should not be represented by a man with ties to organised child sexual exploitation and assault.”

However, a spokesman for the university defended Andrew, saying his “enthusiasm for innovation entrepreneurship is a natural fit with the work of the university” and citing his “emphatic” denial of the allegations.

Murdoch University
The university in Perth, Australia, announced on Wednesday it had advised Buckingham Palace it would no longer participate in Pitch@Palace from next year.

“We remain committed to supporting innovators and entrepreneurs,” a spokesman said. “However, in the current circumstances we have decided that our efforts in this area are best served through other means.”

Bond University
Another Australian university, in the Gold Coast of Queensland, has said that although it was preparing to consider working again with Pitch@Palace in 2020, “in light of recent events, the university does not intend to seek any further involvement”.

RMIT University
The Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology in Australia ended its involvement with Pitch@Palace in October and said it was committed to ensuring its campus remains “a safe and inclusive place to work and study”.

Inmarsat
The telecommunications company is also reported to not be renewing its sponsorship of Pitch@Palace.

Gravity Road
The tech company, a supporter of Pitch@Palace, is another reported to be no longer working with the initiative.

A number of other organisations are reviewing their links with Pitch@Palace, though some are understood to be continuing to support it.

London Metropolitan University is to review Andrew’s role as patron at a board of governors meeting next week. “The university opposes all forms of discrimination, abuse, human trafficking and any activity that is contrary to the university’s values,” it added.

The University of Wollongong in Australia has said it is “currently undertaking an annual review of its future involvement in Pitch@Palace”.

The pharmaceutical company AstraZeneca’s three-year partnership with Pitch@Palace is due to expire at the end of this year and is being reviewed.

The educational charity Outward Bound Trust, which has a long association with the royal family, is holding a board meeting this week to discuss whether Andrew should remain in the role. The duke succeeded his father as patron this year. Prince Philip had had a 65-year relationship with the charity.

Hult International Business School will complete its involvement in the current Pitch@Palace event in early December, but it is reviewing its future involvement.

The Jubilee Sailing Trust, a charity encouraging people with disabilities to sail, will be discussing Andrew’s role as patron at a meeting of trustees next month.

The Stelios Philanthropic Foundation, founded by easyJet’s Stelios Haji-Ioannou, is understood to be continuing its support for Pitch@Palace for the time being.

Barclays Bank has recently renewed its sponsorship of the initiative, but is understood to be keeping a close eye on the situation.

Cisco, the IT multinational, said it ended its involvement with Pitch@Palace in June 2019.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/20/the-firms-cutting-ties-with-prince-andrew-in-wake-of-scandal

[arista]

Prince Andrew
has said he will step back
all Public Duties
for Foreseeable Future,


https://news.sky.com/story/prince-andrew-steps-back-from-public-duties-11865854

[GiRTh]

Prince Andrew
has said he will step back
all Public Duties
for Foreseeable Future,


https://news.sky.com/story/prince-andrew-steps-back-from-public-duties-11865854:clap1:

Keep the nonce out of the lime light.

[arista]

:clap1:

Keep the nonce out of the lime light.




I agree GiRTH
its the only way.

[The Slim Reaper]

He wants to spend more time with other people's families.

[Gusto Brunt]

Most ridiculous man ever.

[Zizu]

Most ridiculous man ever.



I always get the impression that he’s just not very bright and yet he piloted helicopters which suggests he’s very intelligent


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[bots]

He has basically been sacked, no doubt he will next appear as a chat show host or something similar.

[Ammi]

...crikey...poor Meghan, marrying into such a complicated family...