The Mandalorian - Disney+

[Oliver_W]

Star Wars series, starring a bounty hunter who's the same "nationality" as Boba Fett.

I watched both eps this morning, it's brilliant :cheer2:

[Barry.]

Star Wars series, starring a bounty hunter who's the same "nationality" as Boba Fett.

I watched both eps this morning, it's brilliant :cheer2:
I'm guessing against the law then as we don't get disney+ yet.

[user104658]

I'm guessing against the law then as we don't get disney+ yet.

TECHNICALLY, you could use a VPN to set up a US-based account and then it's not piracy :whistle:. I have a US Netflix account because there's quite a bit more content.

[user104658]

I personally am not watching Disney+ on their DUMB weekly schedule, I don't know why they're being all "different-from-Netflix-hmph!"... full season releases are MUCH better for streaming platforms. So, I'm just going to pretend that it is full season releases, and ignore each show until the season finale drops (December 27th in this case).

[LukeB]

TECHNICALLY, you could use a VPN to set up a US-based account and then it's not piracy :whistle:. I have a US Netflix account because there's quite a bit more content.

Didn’t netflix block people from doing that?

[user104658]

Didn’t netflix block people from doing that?

I'm sure they tried? All they could really do is IP block, so I'd imagine it doesn't work with free VPNs (speed would be bad anyway though with a free one). It definitely still works on my VPN. It actually adapts the content based on where I'm connected to (e.g. I can turn off the VPN and it'll show DC's Titans, which isn't on Netflix US because DC have their own streaming thing over there). From what I've read it isn't meant to do that... it's supposed to show the content from your "home country" no matter where in the world you are unless you log in consistently from a new location in which case it assumes you've relocated rather than travelling. But mine definitely changes between the two :think:

In fact I've just tested it, both logged in at the same time (one on PC one on VPN-connected server). Receipts in spoiler.

https://i.imgur.com/gcYyURf.jpg

[James]

Star Wars series, starring a bounty hunter who's the same "nationality" as Boba Fett.

I watched both eps this morning, it's brilliant :cheer2:

I watched a Youtube reaction video to the second episode, and they had about 20 minutes of it playing in an inset in the corner.

It looked okay.

First episode got blocked by Disney. :hehe:

[Jordan.]

I didn't even know about this until I started seeing all the baby yoda memes :facepalm: Watching the first episode now, looks like it's gonna be good.

[Oliver_W]

The finale was good - the entire series was awesome! I'm not gonna crap on the Disney movies to praise this, but I will say I wish the creative team behind the show were in charge of the movies.

Deborah Chow is an awesome director, and apparently she's going to helm the Kenobi show! That's brilliant! Taika Waititi's finale kept my eyes on the screen the whole time. Great lineup of characters...

If the Baby Yoda memes put you off, don't worry, he's only a small part of the show!

[user104658]

The finale was good - the entire series was awesome! I'm not gonna crap on the Disney movies to praise this, but I will say I wish the creative team behind the show were in charge of the movies.

Deborah Chow is an awesome director, and apparently she's going to helm the Kenobi show! That's brilliant! Taika Waititi's finale kept my eyes on the screen the whole time. Great lineup of characters...

If the Baby Yoda memes put you off, don't worry, he's only a small part of the show!

Personally I think the future of the Star Wars franchise is in streaming television rather than movies... the potential for merchandising is skywalker high.

[Oliver_W]

Personally I think the future of the Star Wars franchise is in streaming television rather than movies... the potential for merchandising is skywalker high.

:joker:

I think that's literally the case tbh - it seems like all future movies have been "postponed" while S2 of Mando is coming, as is a Kenobi series, and a series for a random character from Rogue One:)

[Vanessa]

I hope they do more Star Wars spin off movies. Rogue One was great!
I heard about this series. Sounds good. And aww, baby Yoda is so cute :lovedup:

[Oliver_W]

it's really brilliant, I'd give it a solid recommend to anyone :) if you want to compare tastes, I would NOT recommend the Sequel Trilogy, as in I'd say "watch it if you want, don't put yourself out", while I'd give a recommendation to Solo, and a soft one to Rouge One.

Does any of that make sense? :joker:

Sequels - if you want to, maybe have it on in the background or something
Solo - yes
Rogue One - yeah sure
Mando - YES

[Oliver_W]

Gahh it's so good!

I'd not seen the cartoon show with Ashoka, but she was awesome in last week's episode. Cara Dune is great too, there're rumours she's going to get her own spinoff show, which would be great, especially as she's now a warden (or something)

AND BOBA FETT'S BACK!!

[Ramsay]

Star was needed this. Love what they're doing with it!

[Oliver_W]

Star was needed this. Love what they're doing with it!

It's certainly a pallet-cleanser after the sequel trilogy :joker:

[James]

I've not watched it, but what is it with Star Wars and bringing back characters that were obviously killed off previously.

Darth Maul, The Emperor now,

Boba Fett.

[Niamh.]

I've just started Season 2 and I know these are stupid questions but when is this supposed to be is it before or after the Star Wars movies? Also, is baby Yoda the actual yoda or just the same species as Yoda?

[James]

I've just started Season 2 and I know these are stupid questions but when is this supposed to be is it before or after the Star Wars movies? Also, is baby Yoda the actual yoda or just the same species as Yoda?

I think it is set about 5 years after the original trilogy of films?

[Niamh.]

I think it is set about 5 years after the original trilogy of films?

So baby Yoda isn't the actual Yoda then? :laugh: Although, if it's set after the original films surely people would know what he was because Yoda was kind of famous?

[James]

So baby Yoda isn't the actual Yoda then? :laugh: Although, if it's set after the original films surely people would know what he was because Yoda was kind of famous?

Yeah, I guess not, unless they are doing something really weird. :unsure: I mean they never explained in the latest film how The Emperor survived being thrown down that shaft, then blowing up in a nuclear explosion.

[Niamh.]

Yeah, I guess not, unless they are doing something really weird. :unsure: I mean they never explained in the latest film how The Emperor survived being thrown down that shaft, then blowing up in a nuclear explosion.

hhhmmm I am enjoying the show though, I just need to stop thinking about when it is and what the connections are :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

So baby Yoda isn't the actual Yoda then? :laugh: Although, if it's set after the original films surely people would know what he was because Yoda was kind of famous?

Yoda was famous among the Jedi and politicians who were involved with them. To Bob Average, they were just weirdos and/or supercops. Even then Yoda had a desk job instead of getting involved.

In all six Star Wars movies, there was only one other from Yoda's species. Yaddle was in the Jedi Council, and didn't have any lines.

Plus, Mando was raised in an insular cult, all non-Mandos were probably the same to him.

[Niamh.]

Yoda was famous among the Jedi and politicians who were involved with them. To Bob Average, they were just weirdos and/or supercops. Even then Yoda had a desk job instead of getting involved.

In all six Star Wars movies, there was only one other from Yoda's species. Yaddle was in the Jedi Council, and didn't have any lines.

Plus, Mando was raised in an insular cult, all non-Mandos were probably the same to him.

Literally no one so far though that has seen baby Yoda knew what he was (besides the people who hired him in the first place) but thanks, that makes more sense now

[Jordan.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpjALVTW4AIgCKQ?format=jpg&name=small

I cried

[Oliver_W]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpjALVTW4AIgCKQ?format=jpg&name=small

I cried
It was sooo sad!

and Luke and R2!!!

[Jordan.]

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Don't keep up with her social media so this came as a surprise.

[Tom4784]

Yeah, I didn't realise she was such a nutjob. It's sad, but necessary.

[user104658]

Literally no one so far though that has seen baby Yoda knew what he was (besides the people who hired him in the first place) but thanks, that makes more sense nowIf I'm remembering the original trilogy right, most people not only didn't know who individual Jedi were... Many of them actually thought that the Jedi / The Force was a myth. Reading between the lines, the most likely explanation is that the Empire - after extinguishing 99.9% of Jedi - also started a "misinformation" campaign to make people doubt they were ever real. Most people wouldn't have seen one first hand. Also most of the planets The Mandalorian is set on are sort of run down "backwater" places where they would know even less about it.

[James]

I started watching this now I have Disney+. I've seen the first four episodes so far. It's alright but to be honest it's not a show that gets me hitting play on the next episode.

A lot of walking through deserts in the first 3 episodes with the occasional Peckinpah-ish shootout. Fourth one reminded me of an old Stargate SG-1 episode where they have to help a group of people defend their village.

I'd already seen the baby Yoda memes so that wasn't a surprise. I don't think having the main character behind a mask all the time helps either. Which is quite ironic now I suppose.

[Niamh.]

I started watching this now I have Disney+. I've seen the first four episodes so far. It's alright but to be honest it's not a show that gets me hitting play on the next episode.

A lot of walking through deserts in the first 3 episodes with the occasional Peckinpah-ish shootout. Fourth one reminded me of an old Stargate SG-1 episode where they have to help a group of people defend their village.

I'd already seen the baby Yoda memes so that wasn't a surprise. I don't think having the main character behind a mask all the time helps either. Which is quite ironic now I suppose.

Personally I though it got much better in Season 2

[Oliver_W]

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Don't keep up with her social media so this came as a surprise.

Shame really, the cry-bullies have been after her blood for ages, it sucks that toxic fandom got what it wanted :/

She's not exactly wrong - trying to dehumanise people for their views is a tad Nazi-esque.

Star Wars official twitter was happy to White Knight for the host of their little YouTube show after she was called out for her racist tweets, Disney basically supported a concentration camp while making Mulan, and they minimised Finn's presence in SW to bend the knee for China ... But a strong woman dares to leave the reservation and that's too much?

[James]

Personally I though it got much better in Season 2

I'll stick with it.

[Oliver_W]

If I'm remembering the original trilogy right, most people not only didn't know who individual Jedi were... Many of them actually thought that the Jedi / The Force was a myth. Reading between the lines, the most likely explanation is that the Empire - after extinguishing 99.9% of Jedi - also started a "misinformation" campaign to make people doubt they were ever real.

I think the Prequels could have done with a "sceptical friend". Someone who joins Obi Wan, Anakin , and Padme on various adventures but thinks Jedi are nothing but sword-wielding ambassadors. Like, Han Solo never really seemed to think much of the Force, and Luke was his best mate! Knowing that Jedi exist(ed) and believing in the validity if the Force needn't go hand in hand.

Edit: the Imperial officer who Vader chokes at the meeting in New Hope said something about Vader being all that remained of that ancient religion, so I'm guessing people not immediately involved with the Jedi would have known they exist, but not that the Force is tangible.

[Tom4784]

Shame really, the cry-bullies have been after her blood for ages, it sucks that toxic fandom got what it wanted :/

She's not exactly wrong - trying to dehumanise people for their views is a tad Nazi-esque.

Star Wars official twitter was happy to White Knight for the host of their little YouTube show after she was called out for her racist tweets, Disney basically supported a concentration camp while making Mulan, and they minimised Finn's presence in SW to bend the knee for China ... But a strong woman dares to leave the reservation and that's too much?

She was wrong, she was trying to make out that masks don't work in the middle of a ****ing global pandemic, it's funny you chose not to mention that in this ridiculous defense of a moron who only has herself to blame. Trying to make out that she was victimised by others for her own mistake is utter lunacy, she said a number of dumb and damaging things in a position where she represents a property in the public eye. She wasn't victimised because she's a republican, she was sacked for bringing a property into disrepute by spreading falsities about a global pandemic, about comparing the plight of jews in Nazi Germany to being a modern day republican, because being gassed to death for your religion is somehow the same as people having an opposing opinion, according to Gina.

Do try to contain your right wing victim complex, Oliver, you have not suffered anything comparable to the jews for having right wing views and it's an utter farce to make out that people criticising your views is enough to equate them to nazis. The right wing complains about the idea of echo chambers and safe spaces but they are the ones most in need of both and always have been.

Let's not pretend that you care about Gina because you think she's a strong woman, you wouldn't have said a damn thing if she got sacked for stating left wing views, so don't try to falsely invoke feminism to try to turn this moron who made her choices into a victim of other people. Everything you've said here, as usual, is incredibly disingenuous and outright detached from reality.

[Oliver_W]

She hasn't dragged it into "disrepute" at all, most people aren't on twitter, and most don't soil themselves from outrage whenever someone says something they disagree with.

[Jordan.]

She hasn't dragged it into "disrepute" at all, most people aren't on twitter, and most don't soil themselves from outrage whenever someone says something they disagree with.

Nope but in her case they just play the victim and compare themselves to ACTUAL victims of the holocaust.

[Tom4784]

She hasn't dragged it into "disrepute" at all, most people aren't on twitter, and most don't soil themselves from outrage whenever someone says something they disagree with.

Best leave that to the right wing when someone has an opposing opinion.

Do you not live in reality? If you are representing something and you say something that is anti-semitic or spreads misinformation about a pandemic, then you are damaging the brand you represent. Oh, and since I know you're gonna ask what she has said that is anti-semitic, comparing right wingers getting upset over opposing opinions to the mass murder of jews in WW2 is downplaying the suffering that those people went through, it's downplaying atrocities that took place, therefore I consider it anti-semitic.

If you're going to put people at risk by spreading misinformation about masks or disparage jewish people when you are representing someone, you have to be prepared that whoever you a representing will not want to be associated with you.

It's common sense really but common sense isn't so common among the right wing.

[Oliver_W]

Oh, and since I know you're gonna ask what she has said that is anti-semitic, comparing right wingers getting upset over opposing opinions to the mass murder of jews in WW2 is downplaying the suffering that those people went through, it's downplaying atrocities that took place, therefore I consider it anti-semitic.


Then most of the nutcases who call everyone Nazis must also be antisemetic?

[Oliver_W]

The anti-mask stuff is admittedly idiotic. But making Nazi comparisons seems to be par for the course in Hollywood haha

[Tom4784]

Then most of the nutcases who call everyone Nazis must also be antisemetic?

Are they comparing their own non-plights to that of the jews? If so, than yes. If they are criticising a government's actions then I don't think the nazi comparison is wrong, dependant on the circumstances.

Trying to spin the situation to both sides it won't work, like it never has in the past.

[user104658]

To be honest I'm not a huge fan of "firing" without a chance for education, it seems largely fruitless... nothing I've seen of her comments thus far goes past "really stupid thing to say" and into the territory of "actually damaging" and thus, I think it would be more helpful if production offered some sort of education about the problem with saying certain things / acceptable social media conduct. If the person involves carries on as they were after that then by all means, get rid.

It's a complicated one though because as far as I can tell, she's not actually in-contract right now, so she hasn't technically been "fired", they just won't include the character in future seasons.

[Oliver_W]

To be honest I'm not a huge fan of "firing" without a chance for education, it seems largely fruitless... nothing I've seen of her comments thus far goes past "really stupid thing to say" and into the territory of "actually damaging" and thus, I think it would be more helpful if production offered some sort of education about the problem with saying certain things / acceptable social media conduct. If the person involves carries on as they were after that then by all means, get rid.

It's a complicated one though because as far as I can tell, she's not actually in-contract right now, so she hasn't technically been "fired", they just won't include the character in future seasons.
I agree that someone at Disney should have had a little word about online conduct, especially when idiots launched the harassment campaign about listing her pronouns on twitter.

But then ... Does she look like someone who'd be intimidated by keyboard warriors? :laugh:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Gina_Carano.jpg

[James]

I started watching this now I have Disney+. I've seen the first four episodes so far. It's alright but to be honest it's not a show that gets me hitting play on the next episode.

A lot of walking through deserts in the first 3 episodes with the occasional Peckinpah-ish shootout. Fourth one reminded me of an old Stargate SG-1 episode where they have to help a group of people defend their village.

I'd already seen the baby Yoda memes so that wasn't a surprise. I don't think having the main character behind a mask all the time helps either. Which is quite ironic now I suppose.

Update - I liked episode 5 better.

[user104658]

I get what you mean really with the Stargate reference - Mandalorian sort of harks back to the days when TV episodes were often "standalone stories" and there was a sort of vague underlying plot that would usually pick up at the start of a season, mid season, then for season finales etc... Things like Stargate, X-files, etc.

It's less usual these days, most shows have individual episode "themes" but are firmly based on season-long story arcs that feature in every episode.

I actually like it for Mandalorian though, it sort of feels like building "a legend", like no one really knows much about him as a person but these stories/folklore almost gets passed around. I think it's likely deliberate, the title sequences sort of play into that theme, like they sort of look like illustrations in a book or encyclopedia.

I do also agree that it took about half a season to find its feet for me as well, the second half of S1 was notably more gripping than the first.

[Oliver_W]

There's a pretty hefty Change.org petition for Disney to rehire her :joker:

I'm not gonna sign it, because that would be lending credibility to the Rat as an organisation with any morals to begin with, but I think they underestimated her popularity, and normal people definitely don't care that someone puts silly pronouns in her boops twitter bio and says dumb things :)

https://www.change.org/p/walt-disney-disney-rehire-gina-carano

[user104658]

Yeah having read up, on balance, her comments were worthy of a warning but not instant removal. It does feel like a move made out of fear of a backlash, rather than a moral stance. I don't like it.

[James]

I got round to watching the second series because my 3-month Disney trial is coming to an end, and yeah, I found season 2 a lot better.

I think the turning point in the series was the fourth episode of S2 with Carl Weathers. I got the old-school Star Wars fun from that episode. I liked the main character a lot more also this time.

[Nicky91]

have been watching the first few episodes of this


find it quite nice :love:

[James]

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March 3rd. I'll probably restart my Disney+ subscription to watch it.