View Full Version : Friday 7PM-9PM Q.T. Leaders Special : Johnson /Corbyn/Swinson/Sturgeon
arista
20-11-2019, 11:45 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJw-oHvW4AA7oxY?format=jpg&name=small
Friday 22nd Nov
BBC1HD 7PM. And its Live
4 Leaders
No Welsh.
2 Hours
they come on one at a time
Nicky91
20-11-2019, 11:52 AM
edit the title (way too long) it stretches the page at the main forum
arista
20-11-2019, 11:59 AM
edit the title (way too long) it stretches the page at the main forum
Took the 22 Nov date
off
smudgie
20-11-2019, 01:38 PM
More blah blah blah..:fist:
Better things to do Friday night, thankfully.:joker:
Kizzy
20-11-2019, 01:59 PM
I still don't see why Swinson gets to be part of the debate, of her 20mps 5 are tories and 3 labour! They should all have been up for reselelection immediately, their costituents did not vote lib dem!
arista
20-11-2019, 02:13 PM
I still don't see why Swinson gets to be part of the debate, of her 20mps 5 are tories and 3 labour! They should all have been up for reselelection immediately, their costituents did not vote lib dem!
I record it BBC1HD
and Fast Forward her.............................
Kizzy
20-11-2019, 02:21 PM
She's after a bit of power so her job it to take votes from labour in preparation for coalition #2. It'll be a pincer movement on Corbyn as she has no policies of her own that she doesn't ditch at the drop of a hat depending on popularity with the public.
Grim Reaper
20-11-2019, 03:13 PM
She's after a bit of power so her job it to take votes from labour in preparation for coalition #2. It'll be a pincer movement on Corbyn as she has no policies of her own that she doesn't ditch at the drop of a hat depending on popularity with the public.
If she took any notice of important indicators like 'popularity with the public' she'd crawl away back into the hole from which emerged! The only good thing about her appearing is she obviously hasn't noticed that the more people see her the more disliked she is! Dreadful bint has got a bigger ego than Thatcher!
:yuk:
Twosugars
20-11-2019, 03:15 PM
How come she even won? Wasnt Davey better?
Grim Reaper
20-11-2019, 03:16 PM
How come she even won? Wasnt Davey better?
God knows and yes in that order!
Grim Reaper
20-11-2019, 03:21 PM
And as for Sturgeon well I'm with old Longshanks on this one.." the worse thing about Scotland is that it's full of Nicola Sturgeons"!
Twosugars
20-11-2019, 03:47 PM
I like Nicola :)
So which way you're leaning Grim?
arista
20-11-2019, 03:56 PM
How come she even won? Wasnt Davey better?
Yes he was more Qualified
but they had to have a female ONLY
arista
20-11-2019, 03:59 PM
She's after a bit of power so her job it to take votes from labour in preparation for coalition #2. It'll be a pincer movement on Corbyn as she has no policies of her own that she doesn't ditch at the drop of a hat depending on popularity with the public.
No Kizzy
SNP is more able to join with Labour
if they are short in numbers.
Twosugars
20-11-2019, 04:02 PM
Yes he was more Qualified
but they had to have a female ONLY
They will rue the day they elected her.
Vacuous, vain and vicious
Grim Reaper
20-11-2019, 04:44 PM
I like Nicola :)
So which way you're leaning Grim?
Well I'm not sure I want to say where my inclinations lie mostly because we've been getting on so well Twosugars and I wouldn't like politics to come between us! :hee: In actual fact it doesn't really matter because I haven't got a vote! Being a supernatural entity means I don't actually exist on this plane and am therefore not on Electoral Role! :shrug: However I do find myself getting irate whenever Sturgeon gets involved!
Twosugars
20-11-2019, 06:00 PM
Well I'm not sure I want to say where my inclinations lie mostly because we've been getting on so well Twosugars and I wouldn't like politics to come between us! :hee: In actual fact it doesn't really matter because I haven't got a vote! Being a supernatural entity means I don't actually exist on this plane and am therefore not on Electoral Role! :shrug: However I do find myself getting irate whenever Sturgeon gets involved!
:laugh:
Kizzy
20-11-2019, 09:53 PM
No Kizzy
SNP is more able to join with Labour
if they are short in numbers.
Well we can only hope... That would be ok with me. Anything to keep the Tories out.
arista
22-11-2019, 01:45 PM
So First in Sheffield
7PM Live (30mins each)
is Jeremy Corbyn.
Then 2nd
SNP
Then 3rd
LibDem
Last is PM Johnson.
The Slim Reaper
22-11-2019, 01:49 PM
Allowing Johnson to go last so he can lie unchallenged about everyone that precedes him is completely on brand for the current beeb.
arista
22-11-2019, 01:53 PM
Allowing Johnson to go last so he can lie unchallenged about everyone that precedes him is completely on brand for the current beeb.
But each MP gets 30 mins with a Live and
"Possibly Angry" Audience
Fiona Bruce
needs to stop him Repeating Statements
Kizzy
22-11-2019, 02:13 PM
He goes last again..well at least he can be bothered to turn up this time.
Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2019, 03:30 PM
Boris gets the pimp spot
:hehe:
arista
22-11-2019, 04:52 PM
He goes last again..well at least he can be bothered to turn up this time.
You are wrong
all arrive before 7PM.
BBC Producer Instructions
in Sheffield
as its Live
arista
22-11-2019, 06:23 PM
Its raining in Sheffield
Jeremy Corbyn just arrived
SkyNewsHD
arista
22-11-2019, 07:00 PM
Live Now
arista
22-11-2019, 07:06 PM
Corbyn is getting a good response
so far.
Its also on Radio 5
Kizzy
22-11-2019, 07:38 PM
You are wrong
all arrive before 7PM.
BBC Producer Instructions
in Sheffield
as its Live
I'm not wrong...Boris is on last.
I wish sturgeon could run for pm.
Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2019, 07:52 PM
Nicola bossing it
Nicola bossing it
I would vote for her to run the UK...I wish someone would ask her.
Swinson got some strap on her bra
Kizzy
22-11-2019, 08:15 PM
The audience ...and I'm not just saying this were quite hostile to Corbyn there were only one or two who were sympathetic to his vision.
Not interested in nicola or delores umbridge...I'll wait till they send in the clown.
Swinson clapped someone who told her the libs are a right wing party...omg..that was cringey.
The audience ...and I'm not just saying this were quite hostile to Corbyn there were only one or two who were sympathetic to his vision.
Not interested in nicola or delores umbridge...I'll wait till they send in the clown.
He got claps and cheers when he walked on and off the platform.:shrug:
Kizzy
22-11-2019, 08:35 PM
He got claps and cheers when he walked on and off the platform.:shrug:
Seals clap... that means nothing. The questions were accusatory, negative and in the main hostile.
There was one really positive guy at the end and he was totally ignored!
Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2019, 08:38 PM
Nicola is the only true leader on top of her brief
Well done the host..fantastic..I was perched for an ankle chuck out...but in the end relieved it didn't happen.
Seals clap... that means nothing. The questions were accusatory, negative and in the main hostile.
There was one really positive guy at the end and he was totally ignored!
Blame the Scots.
Kizzy
22-11-2019, 08:51 PM
Blame the Scots.
I'm glad he's being more direct in his responses now, it's clear for all. Neutral on brexit, against a 2nd Scottish ref for at least 2yrs.
What's bojo going to rant about now?..He might actually have to comment on his own omnishambles of a party.
( do you remember that word being a thing?)
I'm glad he's being more direct in his responses now, it's clear for all. Neutral on brexit, against a 2nd Scottish ref for at least 2yrs.
What's bojo going to rant about now?..He might actually have to comment on his own omnishambles of a party.
( do you remember that word being a thing?)
I concentrated on him saying he has been in power for 180 odd days..all consumed by brexit, yet has made progress on other things...I get him...this student loan question as well..what Boris is saying us that he can provide high paying jobs for the qualified students..I've seen this in practice in london. .it works..
Give him a chance us what I say, cause the rest are unproven.
Black Dagger
22-11-2019, 09:06 PM
I'm embarrassed for Johnson.
Swinson was just a joke lmao
Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2019, 09:08 PM
Swinson was exposed badly as a total flip flopper. And her shoes, nail polish and dress all did not match
As usual though, sturgeon was the stand out.
Kizzy
22-11-2019, 10:16 PM
I take it all back... thought the audience were rent a mob but they kicked bojos arse! :)
Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2019, 10:33 PM
Well one rude guy rather spoiled it by being a total dick
michael21
22-11-2019, 10:37 PM
Took the 22 Nov date
off
That the most important but :laugh:
Just call it the leader debate members who dont no there names are not likely to watch it anyway :cheer2:
Well done the PM against a ferociously hostile and impolite audience
arista
23-11-2019, 12:00 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/ADAB/production/_109795444_guardian222.jpg
Well one rude guy rather spoiled it by being a total dick
I'm thankfully for the sake of tibb that he wasn't dragged out LT.
By the ear...seeing as they were in Sheffield. :hehe:
arista
23-11-2019, 01:50 AM
The Loser of that Debate
was Jo Swinson
PM Johnson Entered to Boo's
but left with Claps.
Newsnight BBC2HD
reading the fact checker sites today, it seems all the leaders lied about something last night :laugh:
What a trustworthy bunch
arista
23-11-2019, 09:48 AM
reading the fact checker sites today, it seems all the leaders lied about something last night :laugh:
What a trustworthy bunch
Yes Typical
arista
23-11-2019, 11:01 AM
1198168538772586496
From last night
At the End Labour's Andy MacDonald
and Conservative Dominic Rabb
argue.
Liam-
23-11-2019, 11:06 AM
Jo Swinson died an awful, cringy death on national tv last night, it was wonderful
Grim Reaper
23-11-2019, 11:11 AM
I wish sturgeon could run for pm.
Jeez you got to be joking! She can be in charge of Scotland but we don't want her down here..can't stand all the whining!
Crimson Dynamo
23-11-2019, 11:12 AM
Jeez you got to be joking! She can be in charge of Scotland but we don't want her down here..can't stand all the whining!
Yes best you stick with Boris or Corbyn :joker:
Jeremy Corbyn slammed for his ‘nice old grandpa act’ in Question Time face off.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/23/jeremy-corbyn-slammed-nice-old-grandpa-act-question-time-face-off-11205360/?ito=newsnow-feed
Liam-
23-11-2019, 11:29 AM
I’ll take nice old grandpa over a bigoted, out of touch Etonian any day
Kizzy
23-11-2019, 11:35 AM
Jeremy Corbyn slammed for his ‘nice old grandpa act’ in Question Time face off.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/23/jeremy-corbyn-slammed-nice-old-grandpa-act-question-time-face-off-11205360/?ito=newsnow-feed
Nice old grandpa... what a load of crap, he was nothing of the sort.
Nicky91
23-11-2019, 11:40 AM
a ''nice old grandpa'' which is just pathetic how low they sink to bring down the opposition :laugh3:
as if loudmouth bigot conservatives or a wacky deluded corrupt idiot of brexit party are good choices
i do think Corbyn would make a good prime minister, at least someone who takes that function seriously
and this coming from a outsider to british politics, i mean my point is i see everything, and all i saw was all these years of conservative mess ups, chaos
I’ll take nice old grandpa over a bigoted, out of touch Etonian any day
You obviously didn't read the article if that is all you have to say. :rolleyes:
Cherie
23-11-2019, 12:24 PM
I bet he would rather be called a nice old grandpa than a pale, stale male which apparently is now a perfectly acceptable term to describe white males :laugh:
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 12:39 PM
I’ll take nice old grandpa over a bigoted, out of touch Etonian any day
:clap1:
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 12:41 PM
Jo Swinson died an awful, cringy death on national tv last night, it was wonderful
Shes an electoral liability for lib dems
:clap1:
I'm not a Boris fan, but I'll take him over an anti - semite enabler, IRA terrorist hugger. But of course no Corbyn lover believes a word of it, do they, the evidence is all fake, right? :laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
23-11-2019, 01:21 PM
a ''nice old grandpa'' which is just pathetic how low they sink to bring down the opposition :laugh3:
as if loudmouth bigot conservatives or a wacky deluded corrupt idiot of brexit party are good choices
i do think Corbyn would make a good prime minister, at least someone who takes that function seriously
and this coming from a outsider to british politics, i mean my point is i see everything, and all i saw was all these years of conservative mess ups, chaos
have you ever been to the UK?
Liam-
23-11-2019, 01:23 PM
And I have to say, good saint Nic did a great job too, shows Swinson what it takes to be a good woman in politics
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 01:23 PM
I'm not a Boris fan, but I'll take him over an anti - semite enabler, IRA terrorist hugger. But of course no Corbyn lover believes a word of it, do they, the evidence is all fake, right? :laugh:
Antisemitism enquiry is going on.
And thanks to labour we have peace in Ireland
I'm not a Boris fan, but I'll take him over an anti - semite enabler, IRA terrorist hugger. But of course no Corbyn lover believes a word of it, do they, the evidence is all fake, right? :laugh:
That’s my stance ... there’s also Corbyn’s romance with Diane Abbott who then becomes a big voice in Corbyn’s party ..
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
arista
23-11-2019, 01:25 PM
https://i2.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/PRC_99831773.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=644%2C338&ssl=1
One man
aged 36, fixated by a Edited Video
Changes Nothing
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 01:26 PM
That’s my stance ... there’s also Corbyn’s romance with Diane Abbott who then becomes a big voice in Corbyn’s party ..
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Dianne is a long standing mp, an excellent constituency mp.
Shes also close ideologically with corbyn so it's only natural she is in the shadow cabinet.
Crimson Dynamo
23-11-2019, 01:27 PM
Antisemitism enquiry is going on.
And thanks to labour we have peace in Ireland
thanks to labour??, what an insult to Northern Ireland
wow
arista
23-11-2019, 01:27 PM
That’s my stance ... there’s also Corbyn’s romance with Diane Abbott who then becomes a big voice in Corbyn’s party ..
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Yes but over 30 or 20 years ago.
Antisemitism enquiry is going on.
And thanks to labour we have peace in Ireland
Thanks to New Labour under Blair....and thanks to the SDLP's John Hume and the UU's David Trimble, who both won the Nobel Peace Peace. Corbyn had nothing whatsoever to do with it, quite the opposite, so I dont get your point.
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 01:29 PM
thanks to labour??, what an insult to Northern Ireland
wow
Pipe down
Labour brought them together. They brokered the peace process.
Dianne is a long standing mp, an excellent constituency mp.
Shes also close ideologically with corbyn so it's only natural she is in the shadow cabinet.
Yes, she is close to ideologically to Corbyn. They are both anti - British, IRA supporters.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...tain-rp79dvvmk
Quote:
Diane Abbott backed victory for the IRA in an interview with a pro-republican journal, The Sunday Times has found.
Abbott, who will become home secretary if Labour wins the election, said in the 1984 interview that Ireland “is our struggle — every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us. A defeat in Northern Ireland would be a defeat indeed.”
The interview was found during research by The Sunday Times in Irish and republican archives
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 01:40 PM
Yes, she is close to ideologically to Corbyn. They are both anti - British, IRA supporters.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...tain-rp79dvvmk
Quote:
Diane Abbott backed victory for the IRA in an interview with a pro-republican journal, The Sunday Times has found.
Abbott, who will become home secretary if Labour wins the election, said in the 1984 interview that Ireland “is our struggle — every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us. A defeat in Northern Ireland would be a defeat indeed.”
The interview was found during research by The Sunday Times in Irish and republican archives
Hate to break it to you, but many people in the UK think NI should be united with ROI.
Dianne is not alone in this and it's certainly is not anti British. Britain occupied Ireland and the Irish have the right to self-determination.
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 01:41 PM
Having said that it would require a referendum in the NI.
Hate to break it to you, but many people in the UK think NI should be united with ROI.
Dianne is not alone in this and it's certainly is not anti British. Britain occupied Ireland and the Irish have the right to self-determination.
that's complete nonsense
Yes but over 30 or 20 years ago.
She’s still a big player despite all of her cock-ups down the years
( that’s after the initial cock-up)
:)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Jeremy Corbyn slammed for his ‘nice old grandpa act’ in Question Time face off.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/23/jeremy-corbyn-slammed-nice-old-grandpa-act-question-time-face-off-11205360/?ito=newsnow-feed
Old maybe ..
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Kizzy
23-11-2019, 01:48 PM
I bet he would rather be called a nice old grandpa than a pale, stale male which apparently is now a perfectly acceptable term to describe white males :laugh:
Another snipe... as I explained that is a well used phrase not media propaganda designed to smear Corbyn as too old to be PM.
Shes an electoral liability for lib dems
Imagine Corbyn and her joining forces and ruining ( sorry running ) the country :(
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Liam-
23-11-2019, 01:51 PM
Imagine Corbyn and her joining forces and ruining ( sorry running ) the country :(
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
He’d never go into a coalition with Tories tyvm
Dianne is a long standing mp, an excellent constituency mp.
Shes also close ideologically with corbyn so it's only natural she is in the shadow cabinet.
How was she doing before the fling with Corbyn ..
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Hate to break it to you, but many people in the UK think NI should be united with ROI.
Dianne is not alone in this and it's certainly is not anti British. Britain occupied Ireland and the Irish have the right to self-determination.
You aren't breaking anything to me dear, I've lived in N.Ireland all my life. Yes, they do have a right, through democratic consent of the majority which will likely happen in the next 5 - 10 years. I have no problem with democracy, its murder I have a problem with.
You agree with Dianne and Corbyn then that the IRA had a right to murder thousands of men, woman and children to acheive their aims rather than by peaceful political means? Okay.
FYI the ROI repeatedly said they couldnt afford us and were quite happy with the staus quo.
You are really ignorant on this subject.
He’d never go into a coalition with Tories tyvm
Needs must
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 01:56 PM
You aren't breaking anything to me dear, I've lived in N.Ireland all my life. Yes, they do have a right, through democratic consent of the majority which will likely happen in the next 5 - 10 years. I have no problem with democracy, its murder I have a problem with.
You agree with Dianne and Corbyn then that the IRA had a right to murder thousands of men, woman and children to acheive their aims rather than by peaceful political means? Okay.
FYI the ROI repeatedly said they couldnt afford us and were quite happy with the staus quo.
You are really ignorant on this subject.
Whatever.
Create a dedicated thread about it if you want. We can discuss it there in detail.
Not arguing here with you.
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 01:57 PM
that's complete nonsense
:omgno:
Your powerful argument convinced me, not
that's complete nonsense
In a nutshell. He knows no better.
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 02:01 PM
In a nutshell. He knows no better.
:laugh: whatever makes you feel better
Kizzy
23-11-2019, 02:01 PM
that's complete nonsense
What makes you say that?
Cherie
23-11-2019, 02:04 PM
Another snipe... as I explained that is a well used phrase not media propaganda designed to smear Corbyn as too old to be PM.
A well used and accepted phrase by whom? why would you take issue with me using the phrase when you say its well used and accepted and it suited you to trot it out for those men in Teeside.
For the record I do not think it would be well used or accepted to describe anybody of any political persuasion.
Cherie
23-11-2019, 02:08 PM
You aren't breaking anything to me dear, I've lived in N.Ireland all my life. Yes, they do have a right, through democratic consent of the majority which will likely happen in the next 5 - 10 years. I have no problem with democracy, its murder I have a problem with.
You agree with Dianne and Corbyn then that the IRA had a right to murder thousands of men, woman and children to acheive their aims rather than by peaceful political means? Okay.
FYI the ROI repeatedly said they couldnt afford us and were quite happy with the staus quo.
You are really ignorant on this subject.
Indeed we have
Kizzy
23-11-2019, 02:10 PM
Have you heard of Google?
Whatever.
Create a dedicated thread about it if you want. We can discuss it there in detail.
Not arguing here with you.
There is nothing to argue. You either support the terrorism of murdering thousands of innocents or you don't. Maybe if you lived in the midst of the carnage for over 30 years you would get it. Seems like that is what it would take for some people to open their eyes unfortunately, their excuses for the IRA's actions and for Corbyns/Abbotts support are ignorant and sickening.
Twosugars
23-11-2019, 02:30 PM
There is nothing to argue. You either support the terrorism of murdering thousands of innocents or you don't. Maybe if you lived in the midst of the carnage for over 30 years you would get it. Seems like that is what it would take for some people to open their eyes unfortunately, their excuses for the IRA's actions and for Corbyns/Abbotts support are ignorant and sickening.
I dont support terrorism.
But it wasnt one sided was it. Plus Britain is responsible for oppression of the Irish for centuries.
We see around the world and through history that terrorists for some are freedom fighters for others.
We see former terrorists turning into later statemen.
That's how the world often works.
Grim Reaper
23-11-2019, 02:49 PM
It seems to me that the best way to sort the shizer that we're all in and that we are all currently being fed by all sides, is by the judicious use of 36 barrels of gunpowder! Would be a dreadful shame to wreck the buildings though!
Grim Reaper
23-11-2019, 02:54 PM
Yes best you stick with Boris or Corbyn :joker:
Frankly I'd take either of them over her!
Crimson Dynamo
23-11-2019, 02:58 PM
Frankly I'd take either of them over her!
yes and that is why we want and will get independence,...
:skull:
I dont support terrorism.
But it wasnt one sided was it. Plus Britain is responsible for oppression of the Irish for centuries.
We see around the world and through history that terrorists for some are freedom fighters for others.
We see former terrorists turning into later statemen.
That's how the world often works.
British oppression ended centuries ago, we weren't living under some sort of murderous dictatorship you know. Sure, there were problems but being part of the UK served N. Ireland well. If they really had to murder, (and I don't condone ANY murder) then target the security forces who chose to put themselves in positions of danger.
There was NO excuse for 30 years of blowing up innocent men, woman and children going about their daily lives in shops, restaurants, pubs, bus stations, fun runs, etc. NONE.
Nicky91
23-11-2019, 03:03 PM
yes and that is why we want and will get independence,...
:skull:
it's either being independent or being part of english nationalistic brexit britain
and that ain't a tough decision for the scots
Grim Reaper
23-11-2019, 03:04 PM
yes and that is why we want and will get independence,...
:skull:
Exactly, never mind giving the Scots another referendum if we got a referendum on who wants Scotland to urinate off and stop bloody whining it'd probably 85 - 15 in favour!
Liam-
23-11-2019, 03:05 PM
yes and that is why we want and will get independence,...
:skull:
I find it funny that you don’t mind ignoring the result that referendum, but you claim remainers are trying to undo a democracy, why is that?
Grim Reaper
23-11-2019, 03:06 PM
:cheer:British oppression ended centuries ago, we weren't living under some sort of murderous dictatorship you know. Sure, there were problems but being part of the UK served N. Ireland well. If they really had to murder, (and I don't condone ANY murder) then target the security forces who chose to put themselves in positions of danger.
There was NO excuse for 30 years of blowing up innocent men, woman and children going about their daily lives in shops, restaurants, pubs, bus stations, fun runs, etc. NONE.
:cheer:
Jeez you got to be joking! She can be in charge of Scotland but we don't want her down here..can't stand all the whining!
Lots of tweets from England saying otherwise.
I dont support terrorism.
But it wasnt one sided was it. Plus Britain is responsible for oppression of the Irish for centuries.
We see around the world and through history that terrorists for some are freedom fighters for others.
We see former terrorists turning into later statemen.
That's how the world often works.
So its ok to live in the past?
But not when its peoples views on certain subjects that effect me:shrug:
:cheer:
:cheer:
Thank you GR. The excuses for the IRA and in some cases Corbyns support of them are unbelievable. Freedom fighters my ass, they were murderous psychopaths.
Crimson Dynamo
23-11-2019, 03:25 PM
I find it funny that you don’t mind ignoring the result that referendum, but you claim remainers are trying to undo a democracy, why is that?
i think you are confusing me with an English leave voter :conf:
Nicky91
23-11-2019, 03:28 PM
Thank you GR. The excuses for the IRA and in some cases Corbyns support of them are unbelievable. Freedom fighters my ass, they were murderous psychopaths.
it's complicated though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Irish_Republican_Army
read this Wikipedia article who they are, and no they aren't just murderous psychopaths
''the Real IRA sees itself as the only rightful successor to the original Irish Republican Army and styles itself as simply "the Irish Republican Army"
they are freedom fighters, but where politicians use words for independence, they are more radical with physical violence (bombs and guns)
Liam-
23-11-2019, 03:28 PM
i think you are confusing me with an English leave voter :conf:
No, I’m pretty sure you’ve very vehemently been on the ‘brexit Means brexit’ side on here for a good while
Crimson Dynamo
23-11-2019, 03:31 PM
No, I’m pretty sure you’ve very vehemently been on the ‘brexit Means brexit’ side on here for a good while
"but you claim remainers are trying to undo a democracy"
no
i think that a re-referendum will lead to the same result however and would be pointless
Nicky91
23-11-2019, 03:38 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not defending the IRA, not at all
but facts are facts, they aren't just random psychopaths
just wanted to set that straight
Crimson Dynamo
23-11-2019, 03:44 PM
and don't get me wrong, i'm not defending the IRA, not at all
but facts are facts, they aren't just random psychopaths
just wanted to set that straight
they are people who kill children because people dont agree with them
what is a word for that?
Nicky91
23-11-2019, 04:42 PM
they are people who kill children because people dont agree with them
what is a word for that?
like i said LT, i can't defend their actions, but i can't say that makes me defend britain either
just stating as it is said on Wikipedia (which i find a great website with good information about anything)
you got radical groups like IRA, in other countries too
they are similar to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Tyrolean_independence_movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Corsica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA_%28separatist_group%29
Grim Reaper
23-11-2019, 04:43 PM
it's complicated though
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Irish_Republican_Army
read this Wikipedia article who they are, and no they aren't just murderous psychopaths
''the Real IRA sees itself as the only rightful successor to the original Irish Republican Army and styles itself as simply "the Irish Republican Army"
they are freedom fighters, but where politicians use words for independence, they are more radical with physical violence (bombs and guns)
To a point I agree but they need to keep their bombs and guns for use against those involved and not use them against innocent people!
Grim Reaper
23-11-2019, 04:50 PM
they are people who kill children because people dont agree with them
what is a word for that?
Terrorists! That's the word for that!
Question Time four-way leaders’ debate gets peak audience of 4.6m
More than 4 million people watched a BBC Question Time audience grill political leaders on their general election policies, a slump in the number of viewers who saw Boris Johnson’s head-to-head debate with Jeremy Corbyn earlier this week.
A peak audience of 4.6 million watched Johnson, Corbyn, Jo Swinson and Nicola Sturgeon battle a barrage of hostile questioning from an audience in Sheffield during the two-hour programme on Friday evening.
The average number of viewers throughout the show was 4.23 million, representing a significant drop from the 6.7 million who switched on for ITV’s leaders’ debate on Tuesday, in which Johnson and Corbyn faced each other. However, the figures are higher than Question Time’s normal audience of about 2-2.5 million.
The special Question Time episode also drew nearly double that figure, and significantly more than the 2.4 million average audience of the popular Graham Norton chat show was aired later in the evening.
Fiona Bruce chaired a bruising night of live questioning from audience members on Friday, during which Corbyn revealed he would take a “neutral stance” should there be a future Brexit referendum if Labour wins the election. The Labour leader was also confronted with questions about his party’s record on antisemitism and nationalisation plans.
Johnson was wounded after questioning on his trustworthiness, and was also accused of fomenting racism with the inflammatory language he used in his newspaper columns, including one in which he described Muslim women wearing burqas as looking like “letter boxes”.
The Liberal Democrat leader Swinson faced a torrid time as she was questioned about her voting record in the coalition government, as well as her party’s pledge to revoke Brexit.
Meanwhile, the Scottish National party leader and Scottish first minister Sturgeon confirmed she could support a Corbyn government in exchange for an independence referendum.
A BBC spokeswoman said: “We’re delighted 4.2 million (with a peak of 4.6 million) people tuned into the Question Time Leaders’ Debate Special on Friday night. It is the first in a series of programmes which will culminate in a head-to-head debate between Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson in December.
“We think it was a quality programme which put the audience in charge and will have proved genuinely informative for our viewers.”
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/nov/23/question-time-four-way-leaders-debate-gets-peak-audience-of-46m
...hopefully the interest levels will be reflected in the voting stations...
arista
23-11-2019, 05:26 PM
"..hopefully the interest levels will be reflected in the voting stations... "
With 9million folks not registered to Vote?
vBulletin® v3.8.11, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.