Morrisons Stop a Brexit Candidate Shopper Entering

[arista]

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Maybe he needs to hide his leaflets
before entering?


Bolton, Lancs, Morrisons

[MB.]

A Brexit Party candidate being forced to leave against his will is oddly poetic

[arista]

A Brexit Party candidate being forced to leave against his will is oddly poetic


All he wanted to do
was buy a cup of tea.
In the Morrisons Cafe.

[Mystic Mock]

Tbf we don't know the full story yet.

If it's true however then Morrison's are creating a very dangerous precedent in this country that businesses can throw you out of their shop just because they don't like your political opinions (right or left) and it could even go to things such as religion or race (which UKIP suggested a policy similar to that a few years ago I think) so I pray that it isn't true.

[arista]

Tbf we don't know the full story yet.

If it's true however then Morrison's are creating a very dangerous precedent in this country that businesses can throw you out of their shop just because they don't like your political opinions (right or left) and it could even go to things such as religion or race (which UKIP suggested a policy similar to that a few years ago I think) so I pray that it isn't true.



Yes Morrisons need to tell the Public the Full Story.


I assume it may be on
Local TV news tomorrow,
Could end up on GMBHD itv in the early morning.

[arista]

7DKEHiEW-yA


[Footage circlated widely on social media shows a man with a stack of leaflets being pushed
out of the Denton branch by a security guard and being told to "******* off".
The man, who claimed to be the Brexit Party's parliamentary candidate in the area,
refused to leave the doorway area and said he only wanted to come in for a cup of tea.
The Brexit Party candidate for Denton and Reddish is Martin Power.
Brexiteers reacted with outrage to the incident, sharing the video widely on social media.
"Was this man refused entry to your shop because he
was carrying @brexitparty_uk leaflets?" asked Twitter user Megan.]

[The hashtag #BoycottMorrisons spread on Monday,
with anti-Brexit customers vowing
on Twitter not to shop there until they were removed.
The chain denied responsibility for distributing the newspaper
and suggested a member of the public had put them on display.]


Taken from the Anti Brexit
"European Paper"

And a Newspaper link on this mess.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1206979/General-Election-news-Brexit-Party-Morrisons-candidates-Bolton-Michelle-Dewberry-2019-UK

[Marsh.]

Tbf we don't know the full story yet.

If it's true however then Morrison's are creating a very dangerous precedent in this country that businesses can throw you out of their shop just because they don't like your political opinions (right or left) and it could even go to things such as religion or race (which UKIP suggested a policy similar to that a few years ago I think) so I pray that it isn't true.

Well, Morrisons reserve the right to throw you out of their shop for any reason or no reason at all.

[Ammi]

....by what was said in the vid..’I was just talking to the guy’...he may have been canvassing customers in the store/coffee shop..?...were they Morrison’s security, then...?...it did look very heavy handed, I wouldn’t have said it needed two people ...but there needs to be more context or a statement from Morrison’s..?..

[Cherie]

All the security guy had to do was ask him to put away his leaflets and not to canvas in the shop, no need to push him or be verbally abusive

[Shaun]

So the person filming just happens to take his leaflets and hold it up to the camera... and doesn't catch any of the reason why he was ejected from the store in the first place (I don't believe any supermarkets allow you to hand out leaflets in-store, though?)... nothing staged about this whatsoever :whistle:

[bots]

yeah, it looks awfully staged to me

[Ammi]

...” A Morrisons spokesperson told The New European that customers had been complaining about the man, who had reportedly been "forcing" leaflets onto them and had refused to leave the shop when asked.

The chain acknowledged that the security guard, who at one point pushed the man to the floor, "over-reacted".

The spokesperson said: "Customers in our store complained about the man in the video because he was forcing leaflets onto them. Electioneering doesn't take place in our stores.

"He was asked to leave the store but wouldn't. The security guard, who is from a security company, over-reacted and we are dealing with this."


...they were obviously acting on customer complaints...but an overreaction by the security guard...it’s good that it’s been acknowledged immediately by Morrison’s and is being addressed...I’m assuming that security guards are given correct manhandling training, but it wasn’t practised there...

[Liam-]

A trouble maker than refused to leave when asked, so was forced to leave, seems alright, well done Morrisons

[Beso]

That's assault.

[Mystic Mock]

Well, Morrisons reserve the right to throw you out of their shop for any reason or no reason at all.

I get that, but it's not good business if it's over Politics as that would make your business controversial unnecessarily. Not many businesses are willing to be so reckless.

And from what I've been told it seems like he was campaigning in their shop which I'm thinking has seen customers complain about this Brexiter harassing them whilst shopping, which has seen them (correctly) kick him out of their store for disrupting their business.

[Mystic Mock]

...” A Morrisons spokesperson told The New European that customers had been complaining about the man, who had reportedly been "forcing" leaflets onto them and had refused to leave the shop when asked.

The chain acknowledged that the security guard, who at one point pushed the man to the floor, "over-reacted".

The spokesperson said: "Customers in our store complained about the man in the video because he was forcing leaflets onto them. Electioneering doesn't take place in our stores.

"He was asked to leave the store but wouldn't. The security guard, who is from a security company, over-reacted and we are dealing with this."


...they were obviously acting on customer complaints...but an overreaction by the security guard...it’s good that it’s been acknowledged immediately by Morrison’s and is being addressed...I’m assuming that security guards are given correct manhandling training, but it wasn’t practised there...

And I should've read this post first.:joker:

[Kizzy]

Maybe they should've dragged him out by his ankles?...

[arista]

....by what was said in the vid..’I was just talking to the guy’...he may have been canvassing customers in the store/coffee shop..?...were they Morrison’s security, then...?...it did look very heavy handed, I wouldn’t have said it needed two people ...but there needs to be more context or a statement from Morrison’s..?..


I think one was Security Staff
the other a possible manager etc.

[UserSince2005]

Well, Morrisons reserve the right to throw you out of their shop for any reason or no reason at all.

No they don't, you are absolutely crazy, what if they had thrown him out because he was black

[Livia]

I read he was handing out leaflets. You would need the owner's permission to canvass inside the store so they were right to chuck him out. Similarly with the black guy thrown out by the Oxford Union, they both should have left when asked... but the heavy handed approach was wrong in both instances.

[Niamh.]

A Brexit Party candidate being forced to leave against his will is oddly poetic

:laugh:

[Ammi]

...there was no reason to ask the black guy to leave...he was attending a debate, which was the exact purpose of everyone being there...and he was disabled/blind and should never have been manhandled in any way...the two can’t be compared..it may have been heavy handed by the security but there is no comparison to be made between the two incidents...

[Tom4784]

So the person filming just happens to take his leaflets and hold it up to the camera... and doesn't catch any of the reason why he was ejected from the store in the first place (I don't believe any supermarkets allow you to hand out leaflets in-store, though?)... nothing staged about this whatsoever :whistle:

Yup, it's just typical right wing gaslighting. They just love to rile up situations, film only the aftermath and then cry about how they're the victims to push their own agenda.

I can guarantee that no one in retail cares enough to throw someone out of their shop for just their political leanings, he had to be canvassing or harassing people to get a reaction.

[Kizzy]

I read he was handing out leaflets. You would need the owner's permission to canvass inside the store so they were right to chuck him out. Similarly with the black guy thrown out by the Oxford Union, they both should have left when asked... but the heavy handed approach was wrong in both instances.

The student wasn't canvassing though...why should he have left when asked?

[Twosugars]

The student wasn't canvassing though...why should he have left when asked?

No reason. He was a member.

[Kizzy]

Well then as Ammi said no comparison.

[Twosugars]

Well then as Ammi said no comparison.

Absolutely no comparison. One was legal another one was not.
To compare them is ignorant at best and perverse at worst.

[arista]

So the person filming just happens to take his leaflets and hold it up to the camera... and doesn't catch any of the reason why he was ejected from the store in the first place (I don't believe any supermarkets allow you to hand out leaflets in-store, though?)... nothing staged about this whatsoever :whistle:


Shaun
yes the Phone Camera could be a supporter
but putting the man on the ground and saying F. Off
makes this a mess for Morrisons, as well.

[arista]

Yup, it's just typical right wing gaslighting. They just love to rile up situations, film only the aftermath and then cry about how they're the victims to push their own agenda.

I can guarantee that no one in retail cares enough to throw someone out of their shop for just their political leanings, he had to be canvassing or harassing people to get a reaction.


Sounds like a possible future book?

[GiRTh]

A bit heavy handed. Who was that other little sh*t? No way was he a member of staff.

[The Slim Reaper]

Sounds like a possible future book?

Are you angling to do the foreword?

[GiRTh]

...there was no reason to ask the black guy to leave...he was attending a debate, which was the exact purpose of everyone being there...and he was disabled/blind and should never have been manhandled in any way...the two can’t be compared..it may have been heavy handed by the security but there is no comparison to be made between the two incidents...Excellent point. The blind guy had a right to be there while a shop can refuse service to anyone if their behavior breeches a policy.

[King Gizzard]

It reeks of a set up this

[Withano]

I need a cup of tea I’m starving

[arista]

It reeks of a set up this


It does not
but before the mobile phone filmed it
tension was building up/


Only a Proper Official Full Statement
from that Morrisons can end this..............

[Twosugars]

It does not
but before the mobile phone filmed it
tension was building up/


Only a Proper Official Full Statement
from that Morrisons can end this..............

It does. Exactly what the fake news mongers like brexit party would do

[Ammi]

It does not
but before the mobile phone filmed it
tension was building up/


Only a Proper Official Full Statement
from that Morrisons can end this..............

..it does a bit when the phone holder asks for the leaflet at the end and holds it up to the camera...:laugh:...I can see what Shaun means...

[arista]

It does. Exactly what the fake news mongers like brexit party would do


Then Morrisons
can give that in Full statement
even if the staff were set up as you claim.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Excellent point. The blind guy had a right to be there while a shop can refuse service to anyone if their behavior breeches a policy.

Just for the record, the oxford chap got there ages early and sat a large book on a prime seat like a German tourist in Benidorm. he returned late for the event and without his student identity card required (for safety and security) to get in. His book was on a reserved seat and so was asked politely to leave quite rightly - he refused, got aggressive and as such was removed.

[Ammi]

The president of the Oxford Union announced his resignation on Tuesday evening following widespread criticism of the treatment of a blind student who was dragged out of a debating chamber "by his ankles".

Impeachment proceedings were tabled against Brendan McGrath after Ebenezer Azamati, a postgraduate student, was forcefully removed from a debate.

Mr Azamati arrived early to the debate to reserve a seat but was denied entry upon his return from dinner. A video circulated online shows him attempting to resume his seat but being dragged off the chair and out of the room by security.

Students launched impeachment proceedings against Mr McGrath on Tuesday morning claiming he failed to prevent Azamati from being forcibly removed from the chamber and failed to investigate his staff’s actions.

The impeachment proposers also claimed Mr McGrath publicly accused Mr Azamati of violent conduct, wasted union funds on an ‘unfair disciplinary’ hearing and failed to apologise for the whole incident.

On Monday, Oxford University said the treatment of Mr Azamati went beyond “our culture of inclusivity and tolerance”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/19/oxford-union-president-resigns-blind-student-dragged-debate/


..it would make absolute sense for a disabled/blind person to arrive early to ensure a seat...he had no familiarity with the venue...so these things will always need planning/preparation and avoiding crowds...crowds, I would imagine...would be quite scary for him...and then to arrive back and be removed from his seat by physical force...terrifying ...I’m so glad that the wrongs have been rightfully recognised and apologised for unreservedly...

[Crimson Dynamo]

he returned late for the event and without his student identity card required (for safety and security) to get in. His book was on a reserved seat and so was asked politely to leave quite rightly - he refused, got aggressive and as such was removed.

[GiRTh]

So we agree he had the right to be there :thumbs:

[Ammi]

...no amount of victim blaming will make the fault with him, as has already been established officially...just for the record...’sat a large book on a prime seat like a German tourist in Benidorm’..shows stereotyped prejudice...

[The Slim Reaper]

We're still arguing about whether it's right to drag a blind dude out of a room by his ankles? I've seen some nonsense on this forum (most of it written by me :smug: ) but this, as a fair fellow would say, is:




utter madness

[Twosugars]

We're still arguing about whether it's right to drag a blind dude out of a room by his ankles? I've seen some nonsense on this forum (most of it written by me :smug: ) but this, as a fair fellow would say, is:




utter madness

In other news germans asked poles politely to give up their land. The poles got aggressive and as such got dealt with

[The Slim Reaper]

In other news germans asked poles politely to give up their land. The poles got aggressive and as such got dealt with

Pity they dint stop you swarthy Poles floodin my great country so we cud ave propa jobs for us wat was born ere' :fist:

#getbrexitdone

[Crimson Dynamo]

So we agree he had the right to be there :thumbs:

Not without his student card and he sat in a seat reserved for someone else im afraid

I am sure many people who have had this done to them on a train will agree its very distressing and very rude



anyway back to the topic. I walked out a Morrisons cafe last year and got a refund as the food took too long so the man had a lucky escape tbf

[Twosugars]

Pity they dint stop you swarthy Poles floodin my great country so we cud ave propa jobs for us wat was born ere' :fist:

#getbrexitdone
We heard you needed help :shrug:

Swarthy? Racist :fist:

I translate science papers into polish. You're welcome to my job :p

[The Slim Reaper]

We heard you needed help :shrug:

Swarthy? Racist :fist:

I translate science papers into polish. You're welcome to my job :p

Palnik Bunsena

Piece of piss mate. Cud do it standin on me ed.

[Twosugars]

Palnik Bunsena

Piece of piss mate. Cud do it standin on me ed.

Job thief :fist:

[The Slim Reaper]

Job thief :fist:

I'm going over to Poland to translate Polish science papers into English. See how your lot like it.

#getbrexitdone

[Kizzy]

Not without his student card and he sat in a seat reserved for someone else im afraid

I am sure many people who have had this done to them on a train will agree its very distressing and very rude



anyway back to the topic. I walked out a Morrisons cafe last year and got a refund as the food took too long so the man had a lucky escape tbf
I thought the guy came late? In which case the book would've been moved for the reserved occupant surely? The book was there as it was an accessible seat, it would've taken 2 mins to identify him as a student.

What was the title of the debate he was there for again? How shockingly bad does it look? Not young student removed from front row, but young, black and blind student dragged from front row... :/

[GiRTh]

Not without his student card and he sat in a seat reserved for someone else im afraid

I am sure many people who have had this done to them on a train will agree its very distressing and very rude



anyway back to the topic. I walked out a Morrisons cafe last year and got a refund as the food took too long so the man had a lucky escape tbfWe can argue if it really suits you but he had already been legitimately let into the event so he had a right to be there.

Weird cuz it was not me who bought this into the debate so not sure why you're focusing on my posts. Maybe have a discussion with the person who originally bought the topic up? Just a thought :thumbs: