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Twosugars
25-11-2019, 01:05 PM
A suspected far-right sympathiser is feared at large in the Metropolitan police, having got away with scrawling a swastika in a secure area of a police station, the Guardian has learned.
The hate crime was not made public by Britain’s largest force at the time and the culprit has not been caught.
The swastika was found in February drawn on an inside wall at Edmonton police station in Enfield, north London, in an area only accessible to officers and staff.
The police watchdog, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC), said it had not been informed of the incident nor made aware of Scotland Yard’s investigation into it.
The Met said it had launched a thorough investigation into the swastika graffiti, which it had classed as a faith-based hate crime, but could not identify the perpetrator.
More at https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/25/swastika-was-scrawled-in-area-of-police-station-accessible-only-to-staff
Grim Reaper
25-11-2019, 05:41 PM
A suspected far-right sympathiser is feared at large in the Metropolitan police, having got away with scrawling a swastika in a secure area of a police station, the Guardian has learned.
The hate crime was not made public by Britain’s largest force at the time and the culprit has not been caught.
The swastika was found in February drawn on an inside wall at Edmonton police station in Enfield, north London, in an area only accessible to officers and staff.
The police watchdog, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC), said it had not been informed of the incident nor made aware of Scotland Yard’s investigation into it.
The Met said it had launched a thorough investigation into the swastika graffiti, which it had classed as a faith-based hate crime, but could not identify the perpetrator.
More at https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/25/swastika-was-scrawled-in-area-of-police-station-accessible-only-to-staff
Maybe just maybe they've got a Hindi copper for whom the sign means well being! :shrug:
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 05:45 PM
and you wonder why the guardian is begging people for cash and failing to the point of bankruptcy
they have resorted to trolling their own readership. a once great newspaper (The Manchester guardian)
what a shame :sad:
Twosugars
25-11-2019, 05:50 PM
and you wonder why the guardian is begging people for cash and failing to the point of bankruptcy
they have resorted to trolling their own readership. a once great newspaper (The Manchester guardian)
what a shame :sad:
Dont lie.
Thanks to the readers support they're in profit.
They're simply reporting the news as there was an internal investigation
I'd rather read a paper funded by readers than a press baron with an agenda.
I believe your post classifies as trolling.
Twosugars
25-11-2019, 05:52 PM
Maybe just maybe they've got a Hindi copper for whom the sign means well being! :shrug:
Yes bc Hindus are known for scrawling swastikas on walls.
You should notify the Jews :umm2:
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 06:00 PM
Dont lie.
Thanks to the readers support they're in profit.
They're simply reporting the news as there was an internal investigation
I'd rather read a paper funded by readers than a press baron with an agenda.
I believe your post classifies as trolling.
im serious i think they put articles like this in to troll their readership, this type of stuff would have been laughed out of the paper back in the heyday when they were proper journos exposing big business and politicians.
its a shame they resort to this lowest common denominator stuff, i used to read the paper when i was a student but not now its as bad as the independent
you should look t the Times or the Telegraph as they seem to have ridden the internet storm for newsprint
Cherie
25-11-2019, 06:04 PM
The seem to be implying it was drawn by a member of the met, but I imagine the 'staff' area is accessible to all kinds of staff, cleaners, admin, maintenance, , would be pretty stupid of someone permanently employed there to do it so its probably carried out by a casual worker.
Marsh.
25-11-2019, 06:04 PM
Is there not CCTV?
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 06:07 PM
"A suspected far-right sympathiser is feared at large in the Metropolitan police"
i mean really??
feared by who?
Its a blatant attempt to troll the readership just at the daily Mail does each day
Marsh.
25-11-2019, 06:08 PM
You only have this attitude because of the words "far right" if it was "far left" graffitti you'd be faking outrage. :sleep:
Cherie
25-11-2019, 06:10 PM
Is there not CCTV?
In a staff room? generally no, it would be an invasion of privacy
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 06:12 PM
the size of the swastika was smaller than thumbnail
Marsh.
25-11-2019, 06:13 PM
In a staff room? generally no, it would be an invasion of privacy
I heard "staff area". That could be a large proportion of offices and corridors.
If it was a break room type place then fair enough and it's a wonder someone has had the chance to do so without someone else noticing.
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 06:15 PM
I heard "staff area". That could be a large proportion of offices and corridors.
If it was a break room type place then fair enough and it's a wonder someone has had the chance to do so without someone else noticing.
Would you want police time taken up spending days/weeks looking at cctv for that?
Cherie
25-11-2019, 06:18 PM
I heard "staff area". That could be a large proportion of offices and corridors.
If it was a break room type place then fair enough and it's a wonder someone has had the chance to do so without someone else noticing.
aw right area, even so I don't thing there would be cctv in offices, probably just main reception areas
Tom4784
25-11-2019, 07:00 PM
the size of the swastika was smaller than thumbnail
Nazi grafitti is okay if it's small? Is that what you're saying?
Twosugars
25-11-2019, 07:02 PM
im serious i think they put articles like this in to troll their readership, this type of stuff would have been laughed out of the paper back in the heyday when they were proper journos exposing big business and politicians.
its a shame they resort to this lowest common denominator stuff, i used to read the paper when i was a student but not now its as bad as the independent
you should look t the Times or the Telegraph as they seem to have ridden the internet storm for newsprint
I'm serious too.
And I hope you realize the fact you dont approve of this newspaper is a big argument in its favour.
I doubt the paper changed since your youth. Maybe it's your views that's changed? Idk and I dont care. I mean you are regularly cheerleading for trump here. So not taking any advice on objective reporting from you.
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 07:04 PM
Nazi grafitti is okay if it's small? Is that what you're saying?
Yes that is exactly what i am saying, had it it been 348 foot tall that would have been an issue, the fact it was 25mm tall means , well i think you can follow
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 07:05 PM
I'm serious too.
And I hope you realize the fact you dont approve of this newspaper is a big argument in its favour.
I doubt the paper changed since your youth. Maybe it's your views that's changed? Idk and I dont care. I mean you are regularly cheerleading for trump here. So not taking any advice on objective reporting from you.
the fact you dont know that the guardian newspaper has changed in the last 40 years speaks volumes tbh
Tom4784
25-11-2019, 07:09 PM
Yes that is exactly what i am saying, had it it been 348 foot tall that would have been an issue, the fact it was 25mm tall means , well i think you can follow
It means that there's someone working at that police station with such extreme views that they'd risk their job to grafitti a swastika. Bigotry should have no place in a police force so if there's a risk that someone on the beat or high up could be a threat to innocent people then it must be investigated.
People who hold bigotted viewpoints cannot serve the public equally or correctly and should not be in a position of power.
it's not like the police have a history of being racist
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 07:25 PM
it's not like the police have a history of being racist
who mentioned racism?
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 07:26 PM
It means that there's someone working at that police station with such extreme views that they'd risk their job to grafitti a swastika. Bigotry should have no place in a police force so if there's a risk that someone on the beat or high up could be a threat to innocent people then it must be investigated.
People who hold bigotted viewpoints cannot serve the public equally or correctly and should not be in a position of power.
or it was some kid for the lolz
Marsh.
25-11-2019, 07:37 PM
Would you want police time taken up spending days/weeks looking at cctv for that?
That's what you got from my post?
Oh dear.
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 07:38 PM
That's what you got from my post?
Oh dear.
yes i got reality
thankfully
Marsh.
25-11-2019, 07:40 PM
yes i got reality
thankfully
Are you drunk? Or been hacked?
Nowhere in my post did I mention spending weeks trawling through footage.
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 07:42 PM
Are you drunk? Or been hacked?
Nowhere in my post did I mention spending weeks trawling through footage.
"Is there not CCTV? "
can you explain what you mean by this and how it would be in any way relevant?
Marsh.
25-11-2019, 07:44 PM
I have to explain the relevance of my posts on the forum to you?
:joker: Jog on.
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 07:58 PM
I have to explain the relevance of my posts on the forum to you?
:joker: Jog on.
no you dont as i see through it but i was thinking about newer members
Marsh.
25-11-2019, 08:01 PM
no you dont as i see through it but i was thinking about newer members
What are you on about now?
Marsh.
25-11-2019, 08:01 PM
Go and watch telly if you're this bored. :idc:
Twosugars
25-11-2019, 08:12 PM
the fact you dont know that the guardian newspaper has changed in the last 40 years speaks volumes tbh
Go back to reading Breitbart.
Crimson Dynamo
25-11-2019, 08:23 PM
Go back to reading Breitbart.
I still do?
Twosugars
25-11-2019, 09:02 PM
I still do?
I imagine you do. Well carry on. We have no common ground to speak of.
No worse than dirty bob doing a **** in a cup in the works bogs
Livia
26-11-2019, 12:15 PM
So... we have a swastika the size of a thumbnail in a police station and this has been told to us by the police themselves, and apparently that points to institutional racism. And we have a major political party being investigated by the EHRC following countless complaints... but there's nothing to see there.
Tom4784
26-11-2019, 03:01 PM
or it was some kid for the lolz
Or it could be a Neo Nazi police officer.
Why are you so opposed to this being investigated? Why are you downplaying it so much? It could be nothing, or it could lead to a corrupt police officer being brought to justice.
Crimson Dynamo
26-11-2019, 03:06 PM
Or it could be a Neo Nazi police officer.
Why are you so opposed to this being investigated? Why are you downplaying it so much? It could be nothing, or it could lead to a corrupt police officer being brought to justice.
already been done and dusted as the article states
Grim Reaper
27-11-2019, 12:32 PM
Yes bc Hindus are known for scrawling swastikas on walls.
You should notify the Jews :umm2:
Now you know I don't like to disagree with you Twosugars but in fact Hindus do like to have swastikas on their walls and signs etc, it's even been on the news recently! :nono:
Livia
27-11-2019, 01:12 PM
Now you know I don't like to disagree with you Twosugars but in fact Hindus do like to have swastikas on their walls and signs etc, it's even been on the news recently! :nono:
One of my friends has the most beautiful silver bracelet with swastikas on it... it's part of her faith.
Kizzy
27-11-2019, 02:26 PM
So... we have a swastika the size of a thumbnail in a police station and this has been told to us by the police themselves, and apparently that points to institutional racism. And we have a major political party being investigated by the EHRC following countless complaints... but there's nothing to see there.
The police already have been found to be institutionally racist remember?..
The police already have been found to be institutionally racist remember?..
When things go wrong ... who do YOU turn to ??
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The Slim Reaper
27-11-2019, 03:28 PM
When things go wrong ... who do YOU turn to ??
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Sullen girl
Kizzy
27-11-2019, 09:18 PM
When things go wrong ... who do YOU turn to ??
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What's that to do with anything? I'm suggesting that it proves there are bad apples in any organisation. The Mcpherson report 20yrs ago found institutional racism like the labour party I feel that was unfair on the many just and unprejudiced officers serve the public.
One of my friends has the most beautiful silver bracelet with swastikas on it... it's part of her faith.
It's an Indian thing ain't it?
I've seen many swastikas in the houses in East London that ive been in via my job.
Grim Reaper
27-11-2019, 10:20 PM
One of my friends has the most beautiful silver bracelet with swastikas on it... it's part of her faith.
Yes it symbolizes prosperity and good luck!
Crimson Dynamo
27-11-2019, 10:25 PM
I have quite a few Stevenson books from the 20s with swastikas on the spine
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