Who will you vote for in the December 2019 election

[Withano]

Tibb Results from 2017 (38 votes)

Conservatives 18.42%
Labour 76.32%
Lib Dem’s 0%
UKIP 0%
Green 0%
SNP 2.63%
Plaid 0%
Other 2.63%


Tibb Results from 2015 (44 votes)

Conservatives: 15.91%
Labour: 22.73%
Lib Dems: 6.82%
UKIP: 18.18%
Green: 18.18%
SNP: 13.64%
Plaid: 4.55%
other: 0%

[Shaun]

My constituency is a bit of a hard one to call (Sarah Woollaston defected from the Tories to the Lib Dems, but I think we were about 54% Leave)... but Labour did finish 2nd here in the last election, so I'll stick with them.

[Withano]

My Tory constituency leader only won by 600-odd votes in 2017, Labour came 2nd

[King Gizzard]

Labour even though they won’t win in my constituency and there aren’t any other tactical voting options

[Matthew.]

Voting SNP. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

My Tory constituency leader only won by 600-odd votes in 2017, Labour came 2nd

Similarly, the MP in my constituency, who is a Tory, only won by something like 200 votes last time round? SNP came 2nd, and they won the time before that.

[MB.]

Labour (by proxy), although I live in what has been a fairly safe Conservative seat since 2010 and I can't see that changing any time soon

[bots]

i'm in a very safe tory seat, irrespective I won't be voting as I cannot support any of the main parties, they are all dreadful.

[AnnieK]

I live in a safe labour seat.....I will be attending the polling station as my mum will come back and haunt me if I don't vote but I can't decide if I will vote or just spoil my paper

[Tom4784]

Probably Labour out of necessity, I care more for Green's policies typically but voting for them is ultimately a waste and this election is too important.

The tories must be stopped, they are willing to sell the ****ing NHS from underneath our feet.

[Cherie]

Safe Labour seat, so just going to spoil my vote, first time ever

[Denver]

Probably Labour out of necessity, I care more for Green's policies typically but voting for them is ultimately a waste and this election is too important.

The tories must be stopped, they are willing to sell the ****ing NHS from underneath our feet.

Imagine thinking Corbyn didnt lie about that, he failed to show any sort of proof

[Denver]

I'll vote the wackiest random party on the poll which I have looked at yet but we always have one

[Crimson Dynamo]

All the labour votes

:laugh2:

It's just reflection of who is on the site

[Daniel.]

I don’t like Jeremy Corbyn but he’s preferable to the tory’s so will likely vote Labour

[smudgie]

Sent my Tory vote in today,
Voted for our local Tory as the Labour fella is dire.

[Firewire]

SNP.

I voted Labour in 2015 & 2017 but I’m very much an SNP supporter now.

I also live in a relatively safe SNP seat.

[lewis111]

SNP tactically as mine is a margin seat with Tory, but I prefer Labour’s policies

[Mystic Mock]

All the labour votes

:laugh2:

It's just reflection of who is on the site

Tbf Labour is just more popular on the Internet in general anyway, it's not just a TIBB thing.

General public will sadly swing towards the Tories although all everyone has done over the past decade is moan at how poor a job they've done leading the country.

[michael21]

Labour here for the free internet

[jet]

Yeah, who cares about anti - semitism, terrorist support, anti - British Marxism, lies about taxes and costings, as long as you are fed you can work less hours for more money (good luck with that BTW, dream on!) The honey trap of a few more pounds in your pockets is all that matters, at the end of the day...and free internet instead of putting the 100 billion cost into the NHS....YAY!!!
It's all about MEEEE! Conscience? What’s that?

[Kizzy]

What about the antI british dismantling of the welfare state, public services and NHS?

[Tom4784]

Imagine thinking Corbyn didnt lie about that, he failed to show any sort of proof

Keep telling yourself that when you're going bankrupt trying to pay hospital bills.

The Tories are headed by a known compulsive liar and anyone who is gullible enough to vote for them after everything that's happened deserves what they'll get with them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What about the antI british dismantling of the welfare state, public services and NHS?

yes i saw the "evidence yesterday" :laugh:

it was so lame even the BBC reporter who was at the Corbyn reveal rinsed it as he was reporting on it

i think it shows that Corbyn is just not very smart, in fact he is actually quite dim. This election could be the end of the labour party as we know it.

[The Slim Reaper]

All the labour votes

:laugh2:

It's just reflection of who is on the site

Congrats on discovering how forum polls work.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Congrats on discovering how forum polls work.

thanks, i would congratulate you but then i just saw the YouGov poll which reflects the Great British Public

:hee:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-election-poll-yougov-jones/yougov-poll-to-show-johnson-set-for-significant-majority-guardian-journalist-idUKKBN1Y12A4

[Liam-]

thanks, i would congratulate you but then i just saw the YouGov poll which reflects the Great British Public

:hee:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-election-poll-yougov-jones/yougov-poll-to-show-johnson-set-for-significant-majority-guardian-journalist-idUKKBN1Y12A4

The ‘great British public’ that can only be polled if you’re registered on a website owned and run by a confessed Tory lover

[The Slim Reaper]

thanks, i would congratulate you but then i just saw the YouGov poll which reflects the Great British Public

:hee:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-election-poll-yougov-jones/yougov-poll-to-show-johnson-set-for-significant-majority-guardian-journalist-idUKKBN1Y12A4

Now you've discovered how real world polls work. You're having quite the education these last few hours :smug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Now you've discovered how real world polls work. You're having quite the education these last few hours :smug:

and how sweet that it was owen jones who told me:hee:

[The Slim Reaper]

and how sweet that it was owen jones who told me:hee:

Not Owen Jones? Not the lord emperor of everyone on the left? No way, I'm devastated.

Thinking this is a good wind up :joker:

[Kizzy]

yes i saw the "evidence yesterday" :laugh:

it was so lame even the BBC reporter who was at the Corbyn reveal rinsed it as he was reporting on it

i think it shows that Corbyn is just not very smart, in fact he is actually quite dim. This election could be the end of the labour party as we know it.
Are all those doctors handing out unredacted copies out dim too?

[Tom4784]

People buy the Tory's lies every time, they're not gonna stop being gullible now.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are all those doctors handing out unredacted copies out dim too?

id hope they were working and not doing stupid stuff like that?

[Tom4784]

Can you remember when Trump said the NHS was on the table months ago? Is your buddy Trump lying too? Or are you just out to discredit doctors who know the NHS better than any of us.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm afraid that normal document has been dealt with and is no longer news

[bots]

the doctors were specially invited to a labour event, so its more than probable they were labour supporters in the first place. That makes them biased.

For me the interesting take away from that news event was Corbyns refusal to respond to the question put to him on antisemitism. He behaved like a petulant child. Do we really want a PM that refuses to answer questions on issues that are important to the people? because it's not the first time he has behaved this way

[Kizzy]

the doctors were specially invited to a labour event, so its more than probable they were labour supports in the first place. That makes them biased.

For me the interesting take away from that news event was Corbyns refusal to respond to the question put to him on antisemitism. He behaved like a petulant child. Do we really want a PM that refuses to answer questions on issues that are important to the people? because it's not the first time he has behaved this way
You have to ask yourself in that case why are they supporters..What are this govt doing wrong that our doctors are not supporting them?
Whether they are Labour supporters or not it does not make the information in the document less pertinent.

Deflection to other issues is not helpful there are other threads for thst discussion. He attended at least and the responses he gave were honest, at least one leader can be relied upon to be present for scrutiny?

[Tom4784]

I'm afraid that normal document has been dealt with and is no longer news

You don't get to decide what is and isn't news based on what's convenient to you.

Answer me, was Trump lying when he visited the UK or are the Tory's lying? They contradict each other so you have to pick one side or the other.

[Kizzy]

id hope they were working and not doing stupid stuff like that?

To work the hours they work and still feel it necessary to get this information out shows the importance.

[Kizzy]

I'm afraid that normal document has been dealt with and is no longer news

Not by a long way.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You don't get to decide what is and isn't news based on what's convenient to you.

Answer me, was Trump lying when he visited the UK or are the Tory's lying? They contradict each other so you have to pick one side or the other.

I have been on LBC all day and watched the news and its gone as a news item, as i said when a BBC reporter at the event dismissed it as a damp squib in his report about it, its dead in the water.


"The infantile games played by Mr Corbyn and almost every Labour leader for the past 40 years in order to “weaponise” the NHS, as Ed Miliband put it in 2015, prevent politicians from making improvements for the benefit of the taxpayers who fund it and want it to work properly.

The Conservatives have shied away from reform for fear of being accused of privatising the NHS not just by Labour but by the great army of NHS employees who are wary of change, even though they know its top-heavy structures and inflexible systems are inimical to delivering the top quality health care that could be available to all.

Rightly or wrongly, the Conservatives are not only wedded to the NHS pretty much as it is established but their spending promises are only marginally less generous than their opponent’s. An analysis by the Institute for Fiscal Studies says that under Labour, the NHS would receive 2.3 per cent more funding by 2023 than the Tories have planned for. The NHS budget will have risen by £40 billion in the 10 years of Conservative-led government, hardly the actions of a party intent on running it down."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2019/11/27/labour-scaremongering-nhs-holds-back-much-needed-reform/

[Kazanne]

Imagine thinking Corbyn didnt lie about that, he failed to show any sort of proof

Exactly,just a distraction from his own faults.

[Kazanne]

I have been on LBC all day and watched the news and its gone as a news item, as i said when a BBC reporter at the event dismissed it as a damp squib in his report about it, its dead in the water.


"The infantile games played by Mr Corbyn and almost every Labour leader for the past 40 years in order to “weaponise” the NHS, as Ed Miliband put it in 2015, prevent politicians from making improvements for the benefit of the taxpayers who fund it and want it to work properly.

The Conservatives have shied away from reform for fear of being accused of privatising the NHS not just by Labour but by the great army of NHS employees who are wary of change, even though they know its top-heavy structures and inflexible systems are inimical to delivering the top quality health care that could be available to all.

Rightly or wrongly, the Conservatives are not only wedded to the NHS pretty much as it is established but their spending promises are only marginally less generous than their opponent’s. An analysis by the Institute for Fiscal Studies says that under Labour, the NHS would receive 2.3 per cent more funding by 2023 than the Tories have planned for. The NHS budget will have risen by £40 billion in the 10 years of Conservative-led government, hardly the actions of a party intent on running it down."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2019/11/27/labour-scaremongering-nhs-holds-back-much-needed-reform/

Pretty sure it was Blair who first sold out some of the NHS, but lets just forget that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

have we got 100% of our Scottish members voting for SNP?

:amazed:

[The Slim Reaper]

the doctors were specially invited to a labour event, so its more than probable they were labour supporters in the first place. That makes them biased.

For me the interesting take away from that news event was Corbyns refusal to respond to the question put to him on antisemitism. He behaved like a petulant child. Do we really want a PM that refuses to answer questions on issues that are important to the people? because it's not the first time he has behaved this way

Every medical organisation has warned us about another tory government and the damage this will cause on top of what they've already done. They aren't political bodies, they're collections of professionals that only care about the healthcare they can provide, and the conditions they're working under.

[Kizzy]

I have been on LBC all day and watched the news and its gone as a news item, as i said when a BBC reporter at the event dismissed it as a damp squib in his report about it, its dead in the water.


"The infantile games played by Mr Corbyn and almost every Labour leader for the past 40 years in order to “weaponise” the NHS, as Ed Miliband put it in 2015, prevent politicians from making improvements for the benefit of the taxpayers who fund it and want it to work properly.

The Conservatives have shied away from reform for fear of being accused of privatising the NHS not just by Labour but by the great army of NHS employees who are wary of change, even though they know its top-heavy structures and inflexible systems are inimical to delivering the top quality health care that could be available to all.

Rightly or wrongly, the Conservatives are not only wedded to the NHS pretty much as it is established but their spending promises are only marginally less generous than their opponent’s. An analysis by the Institute for Fiscal Studies says that under Labour, the NHS would receive 2.3 per cent more funding by 2023 than the Tories have planned for. The NHS budget will have risen by £40 billion in the 10 years of Conservative-led government, hardly the actions of a party intent on running it down."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2019/11/27/labour-scaremongering-nhs-holds-back-much-needed-reform/

Disinformation. .. the NHS has in the last 10yrs has gone from bein in the black to the red there are stats if you care to look.
Creeping privatisation has raped the most lucrative services.
The last health minister wrote a book on how best to achieve a private health service in the UK so it's not surprising that the NHS has been cut to the bone in the hope of exposing 'flaws'.
You can't rely on the conservatives on figures, they don't have any costing they never do and boris invents new hospitals daily...6, no 40 new ones! Pure fantasy :/

[Beso]

thanks, i would congratulate you but then i just saw the YouGov poll which reflects the Great British Public

:hee:

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-election-poll-yougov-jones/yougov-poll-to-show-johnson-set-for-significant-majority-guardian-journalist-idUKKBN1Y12A4



:joker:

Fantastic news.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Disinformation. .. the NHS has in the last 10yrs has gone from bein in the black to the red there are stats if you care to look.
Creeping privatisation has raped the most lucrative services.
The last health minister wrote a book on how best to achieve a private health service in the UK so it's not surprising that the NHS has been cut to the bone in the hope of exposing 'flaws'.
You can't rely on the conservatives on figures, they don't have any costing they never do and boris invents new hospitals daily...6, no 40 new ones! Pure fantasy :/

The NHS needs a huge overhaul, pretending its run well and its just about funding is what has been holding it back. I think i read that NHS hospital staff take 4 x times the national average sick leave.

When my old mum finished her hospital drama which amounted to about 9 months in and out she had amassed 10 full litre bottles of skin cream and enough liquid morphine to sedate Wales - plus lots of other stuff that would have cost a fortune and was not needed. etc etc

[MTVN]

Looking forward to cracking out the champagne with Smudgie on December 12th

[Crimson Dynamo]

:laugh2:

[Kizzy]

The NHS needs a huge overhaul, pretending its run well and its just about funding is what has been holding it back. I think i read that NHS hospital staff take 4 x times the national average sick leave.

When my old mum finished her hospital drama which amounted to about 9 months in and out she had amassed 10 full litre bottles of skin cream and enough liquid morphine to sedate Wales - plus lots of other stuff that would have cost a fortune and was not needed. etc etc

Then ask yourself why the staff are under so much stress is it due to staffing levels? Which of course is linked to funding, there is no one issue it's a catalogue of contributory factors. None of which privatisation would solve.

Was it ever thought to say no to the offer of medication offered to your mother if she had an ample supply?
That's a drain on resources people taking things simply because they are offered.

[Cherie]

The NHS needs a huge overhaul, pretending its run well and its just about funding is what has been holding it back. I think i read that NHS hospital staff take 4 x times the national average sick leave.

When my old mum finished her hospital drama which amounted to about 9 months in and out she had amassed 10 full litre bottles of skin cream and enough liquid morphine to sedate Wales - plus lots of other stuff that would have cost a fortune and was not needed. etc etc

Agree with the waste comment, my son went in for a booked knee op, took all his toiletries, towels, slippers, etc with him, they gave him disposable toothbrushes, slipper socks, supplied towels, and toiletries, complete waste, I was really angry, he even asked that they stop leaving the disposable toothbrushes every day but no one took any notice :idc:

[Cherie]

Surprised there aren't more Lib Dem voters, I though stopping Brexit was a thing?

[Brother Leon]

The party lead by The man who has dedicated his entire life giving a voice to the voiceless and fighting for those that can’t fight. And I will be doing so with immense pride regardless of what happens reuslt wise.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The party lead by The man who has dedicated his entire life giving a voice to the voiceless and fighting for those that can’t fight. And I will be doing so with immense pride regardless of what happens reuslt wise.

he is a disaster and will destroy what is left of the party

lets get this straight


an utter car crash

[bots]

Surprised there aren't more Lib Dem voters, I though stopping Brexit was a thing?

i was ready to give the lib dems my vote, then i listened to Jo Swinson

[Cherie]

i was ready to give the lib dems my vote, then i listened to Jo Swinson

I know she is pretty awful

[Kizzy]

Agree with the waste comment, my son went in for a booked knee op, took all his toiletries, towels, slippers, etc with him, they gave him disposable toothbrushes, slipper socks, supplied towels, and toiletries, complete waste, I was really angry, he even asked that they stop leaving the disposable toothbrushes every day but no one took any notice :idc:

Oh well just privatise the NHS then.. how dare they provide toothbrushes in this economic climate!

[Kizzy]

The party lead by The man who has dedicated his entire life giving a voice to the voiceless and fighting for those that can’t fight. And I will be doing so with immense pride regardless of what happens reuslt wise.

:clap1: :clap1:

[Brother Leon]

he is a disaster and will destroy what is left of the party

lets get this straight


an utter car crash

Yeah, and Boris is just all so professional and stable right?

Skip me with that hypocrisy :laugh:

[Cherie]

Oh well just privatise the NHS then.. how dare they provide toothbrushes in this economic climate!

Gosh points go right over your head don’t they, don’t go into finance

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah, and Boris is just all so professional and stable right?

Skip me with that hypocrisy :laugh:

no.

and i am not voting for him, i am voting to remove disgusting Westminster politics from my country


we have our own people who are not perfect but are more realistic and honest to run our Country

[Cherie]

Both main parties manifestos have been trashed by the IFS

[Kizzy]

What happened to Mairead Black? She was ace...who gagged her?

[Crimson Dynamo]

save your anger for champagne swigging mtvn and smudgie eating caviar with the glitterati with prince andrew. laughing at the homeless, selling off our NHS and shutting foodbanks.

why both are not banned is ANYONES GUESS :fist:

:hmph:

[Liam-]

The party lead by The man who has dedicated his entire life giving a voice to the voiceless and fighting for those that can’t fight. And I will be doing so with immense pride regardless of what happens reuslt wise.

Aye, seconded

[Kizzy]

Gosh points go right over your head don’t they, don’t go into finance

I was just being facetious. ..but whatever.

[Kizzy]

Both main parties manifestos have been trashed by the IFS

Not exactly...

that said much of Labour’s vision is of a state not so dissimilar to those seen in many other successful Western European economies. Labour’s proposed increase in the size of the state would still leave UK public spending at a lower share of national income than that seen in Germany. Water companies are more often than not in public ownership. And, for example, collective pay bargaining is widespread in many European economies.*

https://www.ifs.org.uk/election/2019/manifestos

[smudgie]

save your anger for champagne swigging mtvn and smudgie eating caviar with the glitterati with prince andrew. laughing at the homeless, selling off our NHS and shutting foodbanks.

why both are not banned is ANYONES GUESS :fist:

:hmph:

I will have you know I don’t like caviar, fish supper and Diet Coke will do.:fist:

[Withano]

Johnson’s predicted majority falls from 80 to 12 in a week

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/29/boris-johnsons-predicted-commons-majority-slashed-80-12-week/amp/

Another 12 days and we could win this

[Cherie]

Johnson’s predicted majority falls from 80 to 12 in a week

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/29/boris-johnsons-predicted-commons-majority-slashed-80-12-week/amp/

Another 12 days and we could win this

Finally the penny dropping, remember the last Election when you said there were too many old people and that it wasn't worth voting :hehe:

[Underscore]

Lib Dem

[Withano]

Finally the penny dropping, remember the last Election when you said there were too many old people and that it wasn't worth voting :hehe:

No, that wasnt me... I’ve literally no idea what you’re talking talking about or who you’re confusing me for.

[Denver]

The party lead by The man who has dedicated his entire life giving a voice to the voiceless and fighting for those that can’t fight. And I will be doing so with immense pride regardless of what happens reuslt wise.

Or giving a voice for terrorism

[Kizzy]

Or giving a voice for terrorism

Giving a voice to documents not meant for our eyes..
HUV2R8TZR7Q

[Glenn.]

My area is Tory so probably them. I refuse to vote for Corbyn.

[Matthew.]

Election day bump, who did you vote for?

[Marsh.]

Agree with the waste comment, my son went in for a booked knee op, took all his toiletries, towels, slippers, etc with him, they gave him disposable toothbrushes, slipper socks, supplied towels, and toiletries, complete waste, I was really angry, he even asked that they stop leaving the disposable toothbrushes every day but no one took any notice :idc:

If this changes there's someone else ready to complain they don't get anything "and I pay my bloody taxes!!!".

Maybe a good compromise would be to invest disposable toothbrush money into decent food, however.

[Marsh.]

My area is Tory so probably them. I refuse to vote for Corbyn.

King Glenn changing his mind. :clap1:

[Kate!]

I have voted .... Labour loud and proud.

[Cal.]

Labour!!!

[Firewire]

I voted SNP

[Saph]

labour

[Cherie]

indy

[Daniel-X]

Labour, cos am nice like that x

[Zizu]

I’m tempted to vote for Diane Abbott https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191212/4a1cee2b526c4abf57a0b2bd69afc248.jpg


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[Beso]

It fits her extra three toes.

[Beso]

I do have sympathy for diane abbot though, I honestly, and with a hurting heart, believe she may have the beginnings alzhiemers, or something similar.

[Zizu]

I do have sympathy for diane abbot though, I honestly, and with a hurting heart, believe she may have the beginnings alzhiemers, or something similar.



Sad if true but then she shouldn’t be having a major say in the country’s policies ..

I thought she had diabetes , though tbh ..

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[Beso]

Sad if true but then she shouldn’t be having a major say in the country’s policies ..

I thought she had diabetes , though tbh ..

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She is as absent as rees mogg..maybe not as much in photos. ..but on the telly she is one all with rees mogg...
Both absent.

Im afraid she's either in the early stages of dimensia or that cheap gin on the train took its toll, n karma bit her big booty and turned her alkey :shrug:

That's what I think anyway, you can all think what you think.:blush:

[Zizu]

I’ll just be happy to see the back of Corbyn when he resigns ( tonight hopefully ) ..


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[Beso]

I’ll just be happy to see the back of Corbyn when he resigns ( tonight hopefully ) ..


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I'm giving him till 3 am cause my alarm goes of at 7.:joker:

Hope he cries.:conf:

[Zizu]

I'm giving him till 3 am cause my alarm goes of at 7.:joker:

Hope he cries.:conf:



... and jets off into the distance with ex lover Diane Abbott ..


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[michael21]

indy

Car or wresting :shrug:

[Zizu]

Just hope Jo Swinson loses her seat as well ... don’t like her at all


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[rusticgal]

Come on Boris..:cheer2:

[MTVN]

Smudgie where you at

[bots]

Smudgie where you at

she is getting the champagne for you :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Smudgie where you at

Getting a supply of meds in before we run out.

[smudgie]

Smudgie where you at

Popping the Champers on ice for you.
I will raise a glass of coke if the forecast is anywhere near true.

85% chance we will swing back to Tory here.

[smudgie]

Getting a supply of meds in before we run out.

Meds fully stocked..for now:hehe:

[MTVN]

Popping the Champers on ice for you.
I will raise a glass of coke if the forecast is anywhere near true.

85% chance we will swing back to Tory here.

:love:

[Liam-]

Celebrating the rise of homelessness and food bank usage, lovely

[GoldHeart]

Celebrating the rise of homelessness and food bank usage, lovely

And privatisation of the NHS and waiting longer for doctor appointments ! . It will be like America :bored: :crazy: .

[Livia]

This poll is an excellent example of how far off the National feeling TiBB actually is.

[Nicky91]

This poll is an excellent example of how far off the National feeling TiBB actually is.

we're not islamophobic, true

[Crimson Dynamo]

This poll is an excellent example of how far off the National feeling TiBB actually is.

indeed, far far off

[Crimson Dynamo]

we're not islamophobic, true

Nicky that makes no sense and can you explain what Islamophobia isas i have a feeling that you may be mistaken?

[GoldHeart]

Nicky that makes no sense and can you explain what Islamophobia isas i have a feeling that you may be mistaken?

Boris is bigoted!! And constantly he gets away with it. Nobody calls him out . Corbyn was the scapegoat :facepalm: .

Anyway predictable result I knew the Tories would win AGAIN ! .

[Withano]

we're not islamophobic, true

GEt her told :clap1:

[Withano]

This poll is an excellent example of how far off the National feeling TiBB actually is.

The average age of the poll is probably about 25-30... it’s not actually off the ‘national feeling’ whatsoever