gun fire heard at london bridge - 2 public now dead

[bots]

Breaking story

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50604781

[Denver]

Apparently it was after a group of men had a fight so possibly gang related

[Denver]

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Looks like they got the suspect but its hard to tell

[arista]

SkyNewsHD
reports one shot dead
by Armed Police

[Saph]

omg im about to go to london shopping pray for me gals

[arista]

omg im about to go to london shopping pray for me gals


You will be fine.

[Denver]

An Eye Witness said a female was carried away from the scene

[Denver]

There has been 5 casualties

[Denver]

Suspect has been detained

[Denver]

One victim confirmed dead

[Denver]

It is being treated as a terrorist attack in the early stages of the investigation

[Cherie]

Grr we were heading there this evening for the Christmas Market ...

Hope no one us seriously injured

[Denver]

Grr we were heading there this evening for the Christmas Market ...

Hope no one us seriously injured

1 victim has died i think, Sky said someone who wasnt the man they caught is dead

[Cherie]

1 victim has died

Innocent passerby or perpetrator?

[Denver]

Innocent passerby or perpetrator?

Sky said it wasnt the man detained but a video of a man apparently being shot dead is doing the rounds but eye witness say only one attacker

[arista]

It is being treated as a terrorist attack in the early stages of the investigation

Yes another Evil Terrorist

[bots]

A video has emerged showing police officers aiming guns at a white lorry that jack-knifed across London Bridge.

The footage shows several officers surrounding the vehicle before moving to the rear to check its container.

London buses can be seen either side of the lorry while three police cars are parked next to it on the bridge.

Another video filmed from a nearby bus showed the apparent suspect appearing to be shot as he lay on the ground.

Another man in a suit and jacket could be seen running from him, having apparently retrieved a large knife.

Witnesses have spoken to the BBC about what they saw.

Amanda Hunter, who was on a bus on London Bridge at the time, said: "All of a sudden [it] stopped and there was some commotion and I looked out the window and I just saw these three police officers going over to a man…

"It seemed like there was something in his hand, I'm not 100% sure. But then one of the police officers shot him."

Noa Bodner, who is stuck in a restaurant on London Bridge, told BBC News channel: "There was a rush of people coming in and everybody basically dived under the tables.

"We were told to keep away from the windows, people that came from the outside were saying that shots were fired."

She said the manager ran to lock the doors and staff told people to move away from the front of the restaurant.

She said the mood was "calm", "some people seem a bit distressed, but they're being looked after by friends or staff".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50604781

[The Slim Reaper]

James Corden playing his part in working out what happened.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKjaKl0XkAAH5Go?format=jpg&name=large

[arista]

Good The Terrorist is Dead

[Kizzy]

Not sure why they shot him he may have had accomplices :(

[Crimson Dynamo]

I wonder what his motivation was ?

[arista]

Not sure why they shot him he may have had accomplices :(


This Terrorist
once the public got off holding him
showed the Cops he had a Bomb Belt on.

So That Armed Officer was correct to
to Kill him fast.

Of Course after he was killed
it was found to be a Fake bomb belt.

[Denver]

Not sure why they shot him he may have had accomplices :(

They shot him because he had a suicide vest on (which they didnt know was fake) so had to do what was best

[arista]

I wonder what his motivation was ?


Yes could be the Middle East

[Denver]

Yes could be the Middle East

Not all terrorists are muslim or from the middle east

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not all terrorists are muslim or from the middle east

i think it would be a good guess with location and all the hallmarks

[Denver]

Could easily being a white supremacist acting the way major terrorist organisations have to get them accused and get the country gagging for their blood before the truth is revealed

[arista]

Not all terrorists are muslim or from the middle east



Of Course
thats why I said "Could Be"

[Zizu]

Not sure why they shot him he may have had accomplices :(



He was wearing a bomb vest .. they had no choice ... they weren’t to know it was a fake bomb


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[arista]

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2 Shots.

A member of the Public took his weapon away.

[Zizu]

Not all terrorists are muslim or from the middle east



Reminds me of that something that was doing the rounds not long ago ..

“ not all people who are cruel to animals are paedophiles but all paedophiles were shown to have been cruel to animals “


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[arista]

PM Johnson will give some words on this Terrorist Attack.

I hope its before the 7PM Live BBC1HD debate

[Kazanne]

Serves him right,you live by the sword,you die by the sword.

[arista]

Johnson PM just spoke from Downing St.
Gives his Sympathies to all attacked.
And This Country will not allow Terrorism.

[bots]

2 members of the public also died

[Kazanne]

2 members of the public also died

Oh really Bots,not heard anything about that on the news .:conf:

[Cherie]

2 members of the public also died

Oh no, they are being very tightlipped about the casualties

[arista]

2 members of the public also died


Yes His Massive Knife.

Lets hope the others stabbed make it through the night,

[arista]

Oh no, they are being very tightlipped about the casualties


It Could be because more are touch and go.

[arista]

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Yes Great Words
TV Producer Rav

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1200469359908589570/GRY3yNhb?format=jpg&name=small


Well Done The Public Holding
the Terrorist Down
until the Armed Police arrived.

[LaLaLand]

:sad:

[Kazanne]

just come on the news at least two died very sad

[Vanessa]

This is terrible :sad:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1200477968319033349/TsjGZrI_?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

This is terrible :sad:



Yes not nice for the Locals
who have had so much worse last time
in that area.

[Vanessa]

I used to go to that area quite often in the past. Now I'm scared to :(

[Oliver_W]

People takeBlack Friday waaaay too far...

[Underscore]

was literally about 15 minutes from this... scary

but it's funny... in whitechapel you hear about stabbings and shootings more or less every week if not more. but if it's in central it's all over the news! loving life down here

[Gusto Brunt]

And 2 people died. The worst news ever - and at Christmas time. :(

My thoughts with their family and friends. :(

[arista]

I used to go to that area quite often in the past. Now I'm scared to :(


That is understandable.
Stay Safe Vanessa.

[Vanessa]

I have to say, the members of the public who stopped the attacker are amazing. Such bravery!

[Beso]

One thing to consider is all the stabbings that happen outside the square mile...and another is the lives that are saved tonight due to a rapid response and the lives that won't be outside the square mile.


Perhaps tonight..

[Beso]

People takeBlack Friday waaaay too far...

Some people make jokes...way way to early.

[LaLaLand]

There's been a similar attack in The Hague just now:

Link (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50609528?ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=news_central&ns_source=facebook&ocid=socialflow_facebook&fbclid=IwAR3Fsq0FyEHgimXTTZ0h7wbIZe4P1CwRGDxtpdRoS vkLtjFuUDrn5aLsgt8&fbclid=IwAR3PAMAaKzH8mFu9pRh7h-4EzO_F5YV7_w8LBRRHFhro5KANdpLN-iUSE9U&fbclid=IwAR0CfXGVlggVkWj4q0Nrs1aisdXERLPdFJzzYJxOp 936LPFuALgyLNb7jMk&fbclid=IwAR3EMVlhp4tIcwtnhBS4NHEajIlsNpx_RTvSYaodU WG7Rf8yO_9pVMi8N68)

Connected?

[Vanessa]

I really hope it's not connected.

[Zizu]

I really hope it's not connected.



Has to be , surely ?


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[arista]

I have to say, the members of the public who stopped the attacker are amazing. Such bravery!

Yes more of them
than one Terrorist

[Kizzy]

I have to say, the members of the public who stopped the attacker are amazing. Such bravery!

Excellent point Vanessa the public were amazing there!

[Denver]

Reports are saying he was a convicted terrorist released on License, this is why they should never be let out because they dont learn and still have the same messed up thoughts

[hijaxers]

Reports are saying he was a convicted terrorist released on License, this is why they should never be let out because they dont learn and still have the same messed up thoughts

Yeah recently released for terror offences ~ wow they kept a close eye on him then !!!!!!! what a joke and now people have lost their lives . Who exactly are checking people being released ?? esp for terror offences.

Metropolitan police where were you ?

[Cherie]

Yeah recently released for terror offences ~ wow they kept a close eye on him then !!!!!!! what a joke and now people have lost their lives . Who exactly are checking people being released ?? esp for terror offences.

Metropolitan police where were you ?

mmm ….

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Zizu]

How many shots were actually fired ??

I only heard 2 on the news clips but one eye witness was very specific in stating loudly she heard FOUR gun shots then FOUR more soon after ..


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[Vanessa]

Convicted terrorists should be held in prison indefinitely. They're too much of a risk to the public.

[Zizu]

Convicted terrorists should be held in prison indefinitely. They're too much of a risk to the public.



With such evil intentions they should get what ‘he’ got yesterday


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[Zizu]

Side note... imagine if the police had mistakenly shot that guy running off , brandishing that bread knife yesterday !!


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[arista]

Convicted terrorists should be held in prison indefinitely. They're too much of a risk to the public.

Yes they need to change that.


[The attacker, named by police as
28-year-old Usman Khan,
was out of prison on licence at
the time of the attack, in which
a man and a woman were killed
and three others were injured.
Khan was shot dead by officers
after members of the public restrained him.
Police declared the attack a terrorist incident.
Khan was known to the authorities,
having been convicted for terrorism
offences in 2012,
according to
Met Police Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu.
"He was released from prison
in December 2018 on licence
and clearly, a key line of enquiry now
is to establish how he came to carry
out this attack," he said in a statement.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50610215

[thesheriff443]

One of those who tackled the terrorist was a convicted murderer on day release who strangled and cut the throat of a disabled girl.

Seriously you don’t know who is standing next to you.

[Kazanne]

Side note... imagine if the police had mistakenly shot that guy running off , brandishing that bread knife yesterday !!


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Yes, I thought that, it was really surreil to see him just walking along with the knife

[Kazanne]

Just caught up on some more news ,this is scarily close to my neck of the woods,they are searching a house in Stafford an area known to us well,I am glad he was dealt eith so quickly,scumbag can rot in hell.

[Kazanne]

One of those who tackled the terrorist was a convicted murderer on day release who strangled and cut the throat of a disabled girl.

Seriously you don’t know who is standing next to you.

Blimey sheriff ,you really don't.:shocked:

[Cherie]

I suppose the tax payer paid for his trip to London to the rehabilitation conference, glad they shot him, he already had his opportunity at least no more time and effort and money will be wasted on him

[arista]

They searching his home in Stafford
Its a Large Kitchen Knife
he used. So it just takes one Terrorist to
destroy a area, again.

[arista]

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Good of the Public
to use Fire Extinguishers
before the Armed Police arrived.

[Kizzy]

A whale tusk!! Eh?? ...wow indiana Jones level heroes :)

[Cherie]

1200690348625944577


Good of the Public
to use Fire Extinguishers
before the Armed Police arrived.


Londoners :clap1: the fire extinguisher is genius tbf

[Beso]

1200690348625944577


Good of the Public
to use Fire Extinguishers
before the Armed Police arrived.

Makes me proud to be British.

[Kizzy]

The guy with the tusk was Polish :laugh:

[arista]

The guy with the tusk was Polish :laugh:



Yes Great Polish Man
and Some Brits with Fire Extinguishers

[arista]

Makes me proud to be British.


Yes Stop
the Crazy Terrorists
that want to kill us all.

[MTVN]

Apparently the chap with the tusk was the one who forced him out onto London bridge when he was trying to get into the hall where there would have been dozens of people trapped

[Denver]

The people in charge of who gets released from prison need to be held accountable aswell as this piece of scum.

It proves the point that you cant integrate terrorists back into the public and they should spend their whole lives locked behind bars

[arista]

Apparently the chap with the tusk was the one who forced him out onto London bridge when he was trying to get into the hall where there would have been dozens of people trapped



Yes Good he did that.

[arista]

[Nothing but admiration and grateful awe for the brave
bystanders that took on what appeared to be a suicide bomber
with fire extinguishers and an antique narwhal tusk
grabbed from Fishmongers Hall.
Thank you Lukasz for your tremendous heroism.]

From Labour's David Lammy
on Twiiter

[arista]

The people in charge of who gets released into prison need to be held accountable aswell as this piece of scum.

It proves the point that you cant integrate terrorists back into the public and they should spend their whole lives locked behind bars


Yes a Massive Error.

[Beso]

Makes me proud to know I have Polish friends.

[Denver]

Yes a Massive Error.

Yes, the judge said he should never be released because he was unsafe yet they feel after 8 years he is rehabilitated it's a joke

[Crimson Dynamo]

Makes me proud to know I have Polish friends.

Great hard working people

[Beso]

Great hard working people

The ones I know certainly put me to shame you can trust me on that.

[Denver]

25 year old Jack Merrit has been named as the 1st victim.

He was a councillor at a prison rehabilitation course that the attacker once attended

[Beso]

25 year old Jack Merrit has been named as the 1st victim.

He was a councillor at a prison rehabilitation course that the attacker once attended

That's very wierd..

[Beso]

And sad also...of course.

[Zizu]

That's very wierd..



Indeed it is ... my imagination is in overdrive ..


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[Zizu]

25 year old Jack Merrit has been named as the 1st victim.

He was a councillor at a prison rehabilitation course that the attacker once attended



Sounds like the ‘course’ needs a bit of fine tuning ...


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[bots]

Yvette Cooper trying to blame the conservatives and failing miserably

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[Denver]

I knew Labour would use it straight away for votes but it will go in the tories favour

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cooper is vile

[thesheriff443]

Indeed it is ... my imagination is in overdrive ..


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He was part of those running the rehabilitation session at the fish market.

[Livia]

Humbling bravery shown by members of the public last night. I know it's been said but such courage is worth another mention.

[hijaxers]

Humbling bravery shown by members of the public last night. I know it's been said but such courage is worth another mention.

Sorry off topic but can you clear your inbox please Livia , been trying to message you.

[Kizzy]

He was part of those running the rehabilitation session at the fish market.

Bit late trying to rehabilitation when already released...And to be fair to cooper this govt has plenty to be ashamed of when it comes to prisons and how they are run.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bit late trying to rehabilitation when already released...And to be fair to cooper this govt has plenty to be ashamed of when it comes to prisons and how they are run.

smh

[Kizzy]

smh

Shake whatever you like... she still has a valid point :smug:

[arista]

The Fella who took the Knife away
was British Transport Police
in normal clothing.

Ch4HDNews.

[arista]

V.Shaif his Lawyer
got him out,
After he won his appeal.

The Home Secretary
blames New Labour who in 2008
halfed the term for Terrorists.

Ch4HDnews

[Kizzy]

Nope...

Desistance and Disengagement Programme

As set out in the*refreshed counter-terrorism strategy, the Desistance and Disengagement Programme (DDP) focuses on individuals who are subject to court-approved conditions, including all terrorism and terrorism-related offenders on probation licence, as well as those on Terrorism Prevention Investigation Measures (TPIMs)*

https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2018/06/04/updated-contest-strategy-published/

[arista]

Isis claim it was them.

[Zizu]

Isis claim it was them.



Well they would .. wouldn’t they ..


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[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/720x405/p07wk4qj.jpg
Jack Merritt

The 25 year old was murdered by that Evil Terrorist.

[Cherie]

How tasteless to be point scoring at such a tragic time

[Cherie]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/720x405/p07wk4qj.jpg
Jack Merritt

The 25 year old was murdered by that Evil Terrorist.

RIP to him poor guy

[hijaxers]

How tasteless to be point scoring at such a tragic time

Absolutely Cherie its sickening :nono:

[Cherie]

Absolutely Cherie its sickening :nono:

so disrespectful to the families, makes me want to vom people want power so badly

[thesheriff443]

Bit late trying to rehabilitation when already released...And to be fair to cooper this govt has plenty to be ashamed of when it comes to prisons and how they are run.

You are a fanatic.

[Kizzy]

You are a fanatic.

Do you have an issue with my veiw? .
Here are the thoughts of the victims father.

David Merritt@butwhatifitsall

It’s not lenient policies that are to blame, it’s the destruction of the probation service that is supposed to monitor and supervise prisoners after release, & rehabilitation services. Since 2010 these serviceA have been cut to the bone. We are all less safe as a result.

[thesheriff443]

Do you have an issue with my veiw? .
Here are the thoughts of the victims father.

David Merritt@butwhatifitsall

It’s not lenient policies that are to blame, it’s the destruction of the probation service that is supposed to monitor and supervise prisoners after release, & rehabilitation services. Since 2010 these serviceA have been cut to the bone. We are all less safe as a result.

My view of you is, you are so desperate to get politics in to this thread, if we talk about terrorist, mr Corbyn would be more than happy to see terrorist released in fact I’m sure he has a few he calls close friends.

[Kizzy]

My view of you is, you are so desperate to get politics in to this thread, if we talk about terrorist, mr Corbyn would be more than happy to see terrorist released in fact I’m sure he has a few he calls close friends.

Whether you like it or not politics played a role here.

[arista]

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[Ammi]

...the female who had critical injuries from the attack, is now out of danger, was reported yesterday..?...I hope that she continues to recover...my heart breaks for the families of the two lives lost...:sad:...a day started like any other day...we just don’t know when we’ll never see someone again..so sad..:sad:..

[thesheriff443]

Whether you like it or not politics played a role here.

Even more of a reason to keep a man who is sympathetic to terrorist’s out of no 10.

Basically kizzy your trying to feed meat to vegetarians or sell gloves to a man with no hands.

We ain’t interested.

[Ammi]

...I’m not sure who ‘we’ is but that doesn’t sound great, Sheriff...to say that ‘we aren’t interested’ in the opinions and thoughts and perspectives of one particular member and to single that person out...

[Kizzy]

Even more of a reason to keep a man who is sympathetic to terrorist’s out of no 10.

Basically kizzy your trying to feed meat to vegetarians or sell gloves to a man with no hands.

We ain’t interested.

Who's we?

I'm not interested if you don't approve who I support politically, he isn't and has not been in power.. Corbyn has nothing to do with the failings here.

[thesheriff443]

Who's we?

I'm not interested if you don't approve who I support politically, he isn't and has not been in power.. Corbyn has nothing to do with the failings here.

We, the millions that will vote to keep him out of power. Tony Blair said he should not be in power.

You support who you like, but you ain’t gonna jump on the band wagon about this governments failings when you are supporting a man that not only supports terrorist but will not condemn them.

[Kizzy]

We, the millions that will vote to keep him out of power. Tony Blair said he should not be in power.

You support who you like, but you ain’t gonna jump on the band wagon about this governments failings when you are supporting a man that not only supports terrorist but will not condemn them.

Oh I can and I will go on about failings, I have heard all the accusations 100 times. I still prefer the diplomat who condemns all terrorists equally than warmongers who murder innocents and contribute to the creation of terrorists.

I'm not alone in this view either Sheriff.

[arista]

The Second Murdered by that Evil Terrorist
has been named as 23 year old student
Saskia Jones.

A Top Lady Lost.

[Beso]

It really does bring it all home when you read the actual names of the dead..

[Ammi]

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[arista]

So Sad
she died helping others
same as the Lad

Great photos
on the SkyNews site Ammi
I was about to post them

https://news.sky.com/story/revealed-woman-killed-in-terror-attack-was-former-cambridge-university-student-11875401

[bots]

2 young lives lost

[arista]

2 young lives lost


Yes its now become a Political Football
All 3 Main party's

Corbyn said today
"you can't keep people safe on cheap"

And the
PM says it was in 2008 New Labour changed the Laws

[Kizzy]

Yes its now become a Political Football
All 3 Main party's

Corbyn said today
"you can't keep people safe on cheap"

And the
PM says it was in 2008 New Labour changed the Laws

To be fair it needs to be.. This is an important issue that needs addressing now. Preferably we need to know what the intentions of the parties are before we vote.

[Marsh.]

Tony Blair said he should not be in power.

:joker::joker::joker: Yes, let's listen to Blair.

[bots]

convicted radicalised terrorists shouldn't be allowed back on the streets without a panel evaluating their suitability for release. It seems simple to me. This notion that people like that get an automatic release after a time period is absurd

[Kizzy]

convicted radicalised terrorists shouldn't be allowed back on the streets without a panel evaluating their suitability for release. It seems simple to me. This notion that people like that get an automatic release after a time period is absurd

Who has that notion? Nobody I can see.
This is what is being asked, why the guy didn't get the deradicalisation he ASKED for prior to his release?

[Crimson Dynamo]

convicted radicalised terrorists shouldn't be allowed back on the streets without a panel evaluating their suitability for release. It seems simple to me. This notion that people like that get an automatic release after a time period is absurd

They should be shot dead

[Zizu]

They should be shot dead



Sadly we are the minority..


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[Mystic Mock]

We, the millions that will vote to keep him out of power. Tony Blair said he should not be in power.

You support who you like, but you ain’t gonna jump on the band wagon about this governments failings when you are supporting a man that not only supports terrorist but will not condemn them.

Tony Blair said the one thing that he regrets doing was tightening up laws against Fox Hunting.:facepalm: So I wouldn't take his opinions seriously if he regrets doing one of a few decent actions that he actually did.

[Mystic Mock]

To be fair it needs to be.. This is an important issue that needs addressing now. Preferably we need to know what the intentions of the parties are before we vote.

I agree.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tony Blair said the one thing that he regrets doing was tightening up laws against Fox Hunting.:facepalm: So I wouldn't take his opinions seriously if he regrets doing one of a few decent actions that he actually did.

What has fox hunting to do with terrorism?

[Mystic Mock]

What has fox hunting to do with terrorism?

I was talking about TheSheriff's post to do with Tony Blair's opinion about not wanting Corbyn in power so we should listen to his judgement.

And I was trying to say that Blair's judgement stinks if we go by his retrospective opinion on Fox Hunting.

And when it comes to Corbyn being linked/supporting terrorists I have no idea how true that is, but I do think that people shouldn't be talking about it like it's fact without any evidence, it's slander.

Speculating or thinking that Corbyn supports/is linked with terrorists is fine, but saying that he factually is a supporter of terrorism without any evidence to back it up is against the law, the members that do that are incredibly lucky that they're making these comments on a Big Brother Forum.

Anyway to the actual crime (as I know that I took it off topic) it's horrendous what happened, and it's sad to see two people lose their lives, hopefully this country will learn lessons from this incident no matter which party is in charge.

[arista]

[Usman Khan's accomplice 2012 bomb plotter
arrested after review of terrorists on licence
Nazam Hussain, 34, has been arrested
after a review of terrorists on licence in the
wake of the London Bridge attack.]

https://news.sky.com/story/man-arrested-in-stoke-after-review-of-terrorists-on-licence-in-wake-of-london-bridge-attack-11875846

[Mystic Mock]

[Usman Khan's accomplice 2012 bomb plotter
arrested after review of terrorists on licence
Nazam Hussain, 34, has been arrested
after a review of terrorists on licence in the
wake of the London Bridge attack.]

https://news.sky.com/story/man-arrested-in-stoke-after-review-of-terrorists-on-licence-in-wake-of-london-bridge-attack-11875846

Well it sounds like good news.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/01/boris-johnson-election-issue-london-bridge-attack

[thesheriff443]

:joker::joker::joker: Yes, let's listen to Blair.

Well a lot of voters did when he was elected into power, so you have ask yourself if he don’t think Corbyn should be elected and he is a life long labour man tells us the once prime minister don’t think he is fit for the job.

[Strictly Jake]

Well done the brave public that got involved. It shows a country the people no matter where you may have come from are what makes this country great.

We deserve so much more than any of the pathetic politics going on right now where none of them seem to be able to have any common sense

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Cherie]

Jack Merrit's Dad has asked that his son's death is not turned into a political football, and his wishes have been ignored

[Livia]

To be fair, it's a big ask for Jack Merrit's death not to be politicised when it happened two weeks before the most important general election for a long, long time, and considering the history of mud-slinging from all sides of the political spectrum.

[arista]

Jack Merrit's Dad has asked that his son's death is not turned into a political football, and his wishes have been ignored


Yes His Dad
can not ask for this.
He is being unrealistic, to be fair


Already
the Conservatives
have picked up more voters


Its Debated today on Every TV station
and radio.

[Cherie]

I don't think it is too much to ask, if this hadn't happened they would have carried on campaigning at any rate on other issues, imagine if it were your son would you like ANY party to be making capital of his death

[Crimson Dynamo]

just about to be debated now on Radio 2

[arista]

I don't think it is too much to ask, if this hadn't happened they would have carried on campaigning at any rate on other issues, imagine if it were your son would you like ANY party to be making capital of his death


You are Wrong
Elections are Hard


Already people are changing who they Vote For
Labour is the Same
is not just one party

[Cherie]

You are Wrong
Elections are Hard


Already people are changing who they Vote For
Labour is the Same
is not just one party

I never said it was one party, you said that

[James]

The attack seems to have been timed to coincide with the election campaign, just like the attacks before the 2017 election.

[Nicky91]

You are Wrong
Elections are Hard


Already people are changing who they Vote For
Labour is the Same
is not just one party

yes, that's true

also the most important vote for you, what party can make a better country for you

[arista]

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[Cherie]

The attack seems to have been timed to coincide with the election campaign, just like the attacks before the 2017 election.

My son said the same thing

[arista]

The attack seems to have been timed to coincide with the election campaign, just like the attacks before the 2017 election.


Yes maybe that Terrorist
wanted to get this interrupting
He seems like he wanted to Die
with the fake bomb belt, on.


Johnson and Corbyn
Live on BBC1HD 8:30PM this Friday
6 Dec.
Is a Chance for a Fight
all because of New Labour 2008 actions.

[James]

My son said the same thing

I think the 2017 attacks could have had an effect on the result of the following election. I remember Labour support increasing afterwards.

[bots]

i think all this politics at the expense of the two young people that died and their families is very distasteful. There was a time when political parties would have been respectful, that's sadly a time that will never be recovered. I'm ashamed of what our country has become.

[Kizzy]

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How were they tough they did nothing... it's only after the fact as usual that they attempt to suggest they take a 'hard line' on any given issue. Hard lines need funding, staffing and resources, all the Tories know how to do is cut, cut, cut.

[Kizzy]

The attack seems to have been timed to coincide with the election campaign, just like the attacks before the 2017 election.

* puts on tin foil hat...

I can't say this thought didn't flash through my head :/

[Kizzy]

I don't think it is too much to ask, if this hadn't happened they would have carried on campaigning at any rate on other issues, imagine if it were your son would you like ANY party to be making capital of his death

But the the public want to know what the responses are, if it had happened at any other time then of course there wouldn't be any politicising.
This cannot be ignored, it's a massive issue facing the country and it needs addressing. Had I been affected I would want to make sure this could never happen again, and I would expect accountability and change.

[Denver]

Corybn still believes Terrorist should be released after half of their sentence, that man is not safe to run a country

[Kizzy]

Corybn still believes Terrorist should be released after half of their sentence, that man is not safe to run a country

This is an example of moral panic, there have been people being released for years and years who have not served a full term.
It is only an issue now due to other failings in identifying the threat he posed upon release. Only through a programme of deradicalisation can it be assessed how great a threat these people are, otherwise they always will be regardless of the length of time they spend in prison.

[Cherie]

But the the public want to know what the responses are, if it had happened at any other time then of course there wouldn't be any politicising.
This cannot be ignored, it's a massive issue facing the country and it needs addressing. Had I been affected I would want to make sure this could never happen again, and I would expect accountability and change.

You have not been affected, and your wishes have not been ignored, your rights are not more important than one of the families of the victims. No one is saying ignore it, what is being asked is that his sons name is not used to score cheap political points, it shouldn’t be too difficult to honour and quite frankly the fact that you are talking about what YOU would want in a similar situation rather than what the family going through it want is beyond words

[Kizzy]

You have not been affected, and your wishes have not been ignored, your rights are not more important than one of the families of the victims. No one is saying ignore it, what is being asked is that his sons name is not used to score cheap political points, it shouldn’t be too difficult to honour and quite frankly the fact that you are talking about what YOU would want in a similar situation rather than what the family going through it want is beyond words

You said imagine it was your son Cherie! You asked me what I would do in the situation. :/

[arista]

Corybn still believes Terrorist should be released after half of their sentence, that man is not safe to run a country


He is back tracking today.

[Cherie]

You said imagine it was your son Cherie! You asked me what I would do in the situation. :/

No I didn't ask you, I was responding to Arista, that point was long gone by the time you waded in with what you would want, not everything is about you, we are dealing with the facts of what the family want here, and at any rate my point was imagine if it were your son and you asked for his death not to be used politically and it was ignored, I doubt even you would be happy kizzy

[Marsh.]

Well a lot of voters did when he was elected into power

Yeah, and look what he did.

[Kizzy]

No I didn't ask you, I was responding to Arista, that point was long gone by the time you waded in with what you would want, not everything is about you, we are dealing with the facts of what the family want here, and at any rate my point was imagine if it were your son and you asked for his death not to be used politically and it was ignored, I doubt even you would be happy kizzy

You weren't quoting anyone. It was a comment on the thread I responded to. The point was not long gone, my reaction was just over an hour after you posted :/
How about you stick to the topic and give up on this attempted character assassination?

[Marsh.]

No I didn't ask you, I was responding to Arista, that point was long gone by the time you waded in with what you would want, not everything is about you, we are dealing with the facts of what the family want here, and at any rate my point was imagine if it were your son and you asked for his death not to be used politically and it was ignored, I doubt even you would be happy kizzy

Tbf, as sad as it is, it's a political issue whether or not they want it. That's the nature of the deaths.

[Kazanne]

To be fair, it's a big ask for Jack Merrit's death not to be politicised when it happened two weeks before the most important general election for a long, long time, and considering the history of mud-slinging from all sides of the political spectrum.

Yep, and people would have been clambouring to lay blame on anyone but the suspect, like someone already started saying it was because of lack of police,give me a break,withing seconds there was enough police there to contain a mini army,these scumbags will do these things whatever laws are in place or however many police are around.

[Kizzy]

People would blame anyone but the suspect. Who are these 'people'?

[jet]

I was talking about TheSheriff's post to do with Tony Blair's opinion about not wanting Corbyn in power so we should listen to his judgement.

And I was trying to say that Blair's judgement stinks if we go by his retrospective opinion on Fox Hunting.

And when it comes to Corbyn being linked/supporting terrorists I have no idea how true that is, but I do think that people shouldn't be talking about it like it's fact without any evidence, it's slander.

Speculating or thinking that Corbyn supports/is linked with terrorists is fine, but saying that he factually is a supporter of terrorism without any evidence to back it up is against the law, the members that do that are incredibly lucky that they're making these comments on a Big Brother Forum.

Anyway to the actual crime (as I know that I took it off topic) it's horrendous what happened, and it's sad to see two people lose their lives, hopefully this country will learn lessons from this incident no matter which party is in charge.

Incredibly lucky we are on a BB forum? :huh:
Commentators who have done extensive research have openly written in newspapers and appeared on TV interviews saying he is a terrorist supporter.
MP's, including Labour MP's, have openly called him a terrorist supporter in televised Parliament sessions. Not one of them have been arrested as far as I know. Neither has any of them been sued by Corbyn.
Because its true - he is a terrorist supporter.

[jet]

Yep, and people would have been clambouring to lay blame on anyone but the suspect, like someone already started saying it was because of lack of police,give me a break,withing seconds there was enough police there to contain a mini army,these scumbags will do these things whatever laws are in place or however many police are around.

Well said Kaz!

[Kazanne]

People would blame anyone but the suspect. Who are these 'people'?

People are already using excuses like it was because of cut backs , lack of police etc for this scumbag doing this , he did it because he's a murdering twat

[thesheriff443]

Yeah, and look what he did.

You mean the labour priminster that took this country to war on a rumour of weapons of mass distruction that never appeared and the Labour Government that messed up the country yet again while in power, don’t tell kizzy, according to her the sun shines out of labours back side.

[Crimson Dynamo]

People are already using excuses like it was because of cut backs , lack of police etc for this scumbag doing this , he did it because he's a murdering twat

the main reason is he has been brainwashed by a Cult who think an invisible man rules the world - in fact he is so convinced he thinks those who dont share his views should die.

yet we allow cults like this and others to build buildings in our communities where others can be brainwashed as children

and we pretend its all normal and we build them schools too

disgusting

[arista]

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11AM Today.

[arista]

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Guardian

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKuU74YXYAAq7Px?format=jpg&name=small

Guardian

Repulsive cheap 20 something journalism

[thesheriff443]

The fundamental failings of the human race is we are killing the wrong people.

Instead of keeping murdering scum alive and putting more innocent lives at risk by putting them back into society they should be put down.

That money that’s wasted on these wasters should be spent on bettering the life’s of decent human beings.

Keeping scum alive who slaughter people does not make us better people.

[Kizzy]

You mean the labour priminster that took this country to war on a rumour of weapons of mass distruction that never appeared and the Labour Government that messed up the country yet again while in power, don’t tell kizzy, according to her the sun shines out of labours back side.

I don't class 'new' Labour or the murderous Blair as labour. For me labour is about socialist values, I hope that clears things for you.

[Kizzy]

People are already using excuses like it was because of cut backs , lack of police etc for this scumbag doing this , he did it because he's a murdering twat

So boris was wrong to blame the 2008 change in sentencing then? ... not that it applied on this case as this guy was sentenced to an indefinate period in 2012. It was only in 2013 his sentence was amended on appeal to 16yrs.

[Marsh.]

People are already using excuses like it was because of cut backs , lack of police etc for this scumbag doing this , he did it because he's a murdering twat

I don't see you using the "excuse" tag when you're chastising a system that fails James Bulger's mother time and time again?

Do we only comment on Venables himself, or the system that consistently allows him back onto the streets?

[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

Well done the brave public that got involved. It shows a country the people no matter where you may have come from are what makes this country great.

We deserve so much more than any of the pathetic politics going on right now where none of them seem to be able to have any common sense

This.

[Mystic Mock]

Incredibly lucky we are on a BB forum? :huh:
Commentators who have done extensive research have openly written in newspapers and appeared on TV interviews saying he is a terrorist supporter.
MP's, including Labour MP's, have openly called him a terrorist supporter in televised Parliament sessions. Not one of them have been arrested as far as I know. Neither has any of them been sued by Corbyn.
Because its true - he is a terrorist supporter.

Just because he hasn't sued those people doesn't mean that they aren't treading on very thin ice with the law on defamation.

[bots]

Just because he hasn't sued those people doesn't mean that they aren't treading on very thin ice with the law on defamation.

Mock there is plenty hard evidence out there, people arent making it up

[thesheriff443]

I don't class 'new' Labour or the murderous Blair as labour. For me labour is about socialist values, I hope that clears things for you.

Out of the frying pan into the fire more like.

No matter which party is in power normal people continue to die.

You don’t hear of mp’s dying of cold, going to food banks or dying while waiting for hospital treatment.

People get so passionate about politics and yet they get a privileged life for screwing up the lives of hundreds of thousands.

[Cherie]

The more we get to know about how he acted on the day the more horrifying it is, its one thing to chop down unknowns in the street, but this guy was interacting in a circle with his victims before he headed off to the toilet to don his vest and tape knives to his hands, he obviously targeted the very people who were heading up the initiative as well, they weren't randon targets

[thesheriff443]

The more we get to know about how he acted on the day the more horrifying it is, its one thing to chop down unknowns in the street, but this guy was interacting in a circle with his victims before he headed off to the toilet to don his vest and tape knives to his hands, he obviously targeted the very people who were heading up the initiative as well, they weren't randon targets

These people mask their hatred, he was telling anyone who would listen in the system how he was a good person and like most who think they can tame a wild animal they swallowed his calculated lies.

[Cherie]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/polish-kitchen-worker-stabbed-five-times-as-he-fought-london-bridge-attacker-with-pole-says-he-acted-instinctively/ar-BBXIvCs?ocid=spartandhp

[Beso]

Normal people are willing to stand up to these punks, some have died from the stab wounds, those poor brave souls should never be used politicaly, nor ever forgotten.

But the brave souls who fought and survived many stab wounds, whilst doing so. Are free to say whatever they like .

[Beso]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/polish-kitchen-worker-stabbed-five-times-as-he-fought-london-bridge-attacker-with-pole-says-he-acted-instinctively/ar-BBXIvCs?ocid=spartandhp

He's the guy backing off the event from one of the videos taken by someone from the houses of parliament side, probably the latter part of the fire extinguisher one..

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

Tough on terrorists?... yeah unless that terrorists mum has £50k!!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/neo-nazi-terrorists-andrew-dymock-srn-sonnenkrieg-bath-trial-a9234696.html

[Beso]

Tough on terrorists?... yeah unless that terrorists mum has £50k!!

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/neo-nazi-terrorists-andrew-dymock-srn-sonnenkrieg-bath-trial-a9234696.html

That's 1 all with Mr Millwall not getting compensation for his heroics down borough market.

[Kizzy]

That's 1 all with Mr Millwall not getting compensation for his heroics down borough market.

No idea what that means..

[bots]

stabbed 5 times and still alive is an incredible piece of luck

[Kizzy]

David Merritt(@butwhatifitsall)

POLITICAL TWEET WARNING: Jack Merritt, who lived in a Con held Con/Lib marginal, but who was a natural*Labour*supporter, was intending to vote tactically next week. We will follow suit. For the sake of our public services, whatever you think of Swinson or Corbyn, vote anti-Tory

[arista]

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[Ammi]

...the incredible contrast in our lives...as many of us prepare for Christmas with our families, other families are preparing a final tribute in their lives....lives which will never be the same again...



The funerals of London bridge terror attack victims Jack Merritt and Saskia Jones will be held today.

The private service for family and friends to celebrate Jack's life will be held in his home town of Cambridge.

Saskia will be honoured at a memorial service before her funeral in Stratford-Upon-Avon.

The former Cambridge university students were killed by Usman Khan as they attended a prisoner rehabilitation event in London on 29 November.

The vice-chancellor of Cambridge has asked students past and present to remember the values embodied by them both.

In an end-of-term email, Prof Stephen Toope described their work as "transformational" and said: "I ask that we do not let the manner of Saskia and Jack's deaths eclipse the manner in which they lived their lives - and helped others to do so.


"As we prepare for the holiday period, let us instead remember the values they embodied."