Labour supporters / people who might vote Labour next time: who should become leader?

[Shaun]

Names are already being thrown around like Keir Starmer, Angela Rayner, Jess Phillips, Emily Thornberry and Sadiq Khan... so who do you think would make the best candidate, and why?

If you're just going to troll about how the whole party is unelectable and "get over it blah blah blah" then just exit the thread and make a cup of tea and consider growing up x

[UserSince2005]

Sadiq Khan please, would love to see him humiliated like Jezza in 5 years time. And plus he needs to step down as mayor of my city as he is simple unfit to hold any position of power.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Andy Burnham always comes across well and is liked by the right on LBC. He seems to be able to connect with the right which is good going forward for Labour

[Josy]

Emily Thornberry would be a decent choice

[Liam-]

I think it will be Starmer, but I’d love Angela to take the position, she’s a wonderful political, with a great amount of passion and I think she could really speak to the working class again

[Twosugars]

Keir Starmer, Burnham, thornberry?


The Guardian picked a few here



Emily Thornberry

The shadow foreign secretary has been faultlessly loyal to Jeremy Corbyn, despite not being as left-wing, and believes as a “girly swot” she is good at taking on Boris Johnson. In her acceptance speech in Islington South and Finsbury, she said: “The real fight has to begin now.”

Keir Starmer

The ferociously ambitious former director of public prosecutions has led the charge for remain in the shadow cabinet. He has held his Holborn and St Pancras seat since 2015 and been instrumental in shifting Labour’s position towards backing a second Brexit referendum.


Rebecca Long-Bailey

A close ally of the shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, Long-Bailey has been groomed as a potential leftwing contender for the top job, who launched a slick video about her backstory during the campaign. The Salford MP and shadow business secretary performed well as a stand-in for Corbyn in leadership debates.

Angela Rayner

The shadow education secretary, a close friend of Long-Bailey’s, said in recent days she would like to support a Labour Brexit deal. She is regarded as a powerful public speaker and some senior Conservatives say they would fear her as an adversary.

Jess Phillips

The MP for Birmingham Yardley is a strong media performer who has built up a significant public profile from the backbenches. Corbyn-supporting Labour members are likely to be deeply suspicious of her, but she will argue that she can take on Johnson.

Lisa Nandy

The Wigan MP has built a reputation as a campaigner for her constituency and others like it, many of which have fallen to the Tories. She helped to create the Centre for Towns thinktank, and called for compromise over Brexit. She might be regarded by some as a compromise, soft-left candidate.




https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/13/who-will-be-the-next-labour-party-leader

[Morgan.]

Is Jess Phillips the one that was on Celebrity Bake Off? She’ll do!

[MTVN]

I don't fall into this bracket but for any realistic chance of success I think the new leader needs to:

- Appeal to both the north and middle England (probably needs to be a northerner first to win back those seats)
- Left wing enough to get the support of the membership, not too left wing to alienate the floating voter
- Ideally be a woman

Rebecca Long Bailey is the best bet imo

I would say no to any who are perceived to be too 'metropolitan' and London centric like Starmer, Sadiq or Thornberry

[UserSince2005]

I don't fall into this bracket but for any realistic chance of success I think the new leader needs to:

- Appeal to both the north and middle England (probably needs to be a northerner first to win back those seats)
- Left wing enough to get the support of the membership, not too left wing to alienate the floating voter
- Ideally be a woman

Rebecca Long Bailey is the best bet imo

I would say no to any who are perceived to be too 'metropolitan' and London centric like Starmer, Sadiq or Thornberry

They should be an ethnic minority too.

[Shaun]

Andy is another good shout but I don't know if he's ever expressed an interest in the role.

I think Jess is good but she'd probably be seen as an easy target by media on account of her class/the way she communicates (I don't have a problem with it, obviously, but she is seen to be a bit of a media luvvie nowadays and that could be a problem).

Angela Rayner seems to be the one whose star factor is growing... but I don't know how to feel about her :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't fall into this bracket but for any realistic chance of success I think the new leader needs to:

- Appeal to both the north and middle England (probably needs to be a northerner first to win back those seats)
- Left wing enough to get the support of the membership, not too left wing to alienate the floating voter
- Ideally be a woman

Rebecca Long Bailey is the best bet imo

I would say no to any who are perceived to be too 'metropolitan' and London centric like Starmer, Sadiq or Thornberry

Rebecca Long Bailey is very good

[smudgie]

Caroline Flint.

[Daniel-X]

Angela Rayner is brilliant, such passion for her job and more ‘soft left’ which I think is needed for the Labour Party. Hard labour like JC just isn’t cutting it anymore unfortunately :(

I’d love Andy Burnham too but he’s been rejected so many times/is the Mayor of Manchester now so I don’t think he’ll be interested.

[Jigs]

I really like Emily Thornberry so maybe her?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Angela Rayner is brilliant, such passion for her job and more ‘soft left’ which I think is needed for the Labour Party. Hard labour like JC just isn’t cutting it anymore unfortunately :(

I’d love Andy Burnham too but he’s been rejected so many times/is the Mayor of Manchester now so I don’t think he’ll be interested.

he is the mayor of manchester and he would not be interested in the leader of her majesties opposition?

[Zizu]

Layla Moran

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[Zizu]

Edit .. Melanie Onn

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[Black Dagger]

Jess would be a woeful choice.

Keir or Angela are the best bets.

[Zizu]

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[GoldHeart]

I don't know much about the other potential candidates,but all I know is the next Labour leader will be treated badly again :bored:.

[LaLaLand]

Angela Rayner/Rebecca Long Bailey/Jess Phillips.

ANYONE but Keir Starmer OR Thornberry :skull:

[Samm]

I’d love either Rayner or Phillips, for more or less the same reason, Rayner is soft left and she just seems very likeable and can debate well. Phillips (I’ve met her and she’s brilliant) has such passion, and is a right character that the party needs, she also has that ‘backbone’ that people thought corbyn didn’t (which I don’t really agree with)

They’re both also not 100% remain or backed a 2nd reft that hard, which I feel is extremely important brexit hopefully will be a past subject by 2024 but will still feel very current, I’m saying this as a remainer myself but I feel like now we need to stick to leaving and go on with it, and get the best deal we possibly can (no deal is an absolute no however) that’s why I feel Starmer is a bad choice he’s very hard remain which won’t help at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't know much about the other potential candidates,but all I know is the next Labour leader will be treated badly again :bored:.

As will all leaders as they should

[Crimson Dynamo]

Emily Thornberry would be a decent choice

Lol. She would be the actual worst

[Cherie]

I don't know much about the other potential candidates,but all I know is the next Labour leader will be treated badly again :bored:.

You do realise Labour were in power for quiet some time, politics goes in cycles, its just the Torys turn, give it another 5/10 years and the blue wall will turn red, that's how it goes, unless they change the system of course :laugh:

[Livia]

Rebecca Long Bailey is very good

I've heard her described as John McDonnell's protégé. Do they really want more of the same?

[MB.]

Melanie Onn

Not an MP

Gloria de Piero

Also not an MP

Layla Moran

Literally is not even a member of the Labour Party

[Oliver_W]

Not an MP



Also not an MP



Neither are the two job sharing leaders, deputy leader, or chair of the Green Party :joker:

[Twosugars]

Neither are the two job sharing leaders, deputy leader, or chair of the Green Party :joker:

So?

If their rules allow that what's the problem?

But in the case of labour, lib dems and tories it would not be possible. That's why swinson had to resign immediately

[MB.]

Neither are the two job sharing leaders, deputy leader, or chair of the Green Party :joker:

Except in the case of the Green Party you'd have to have Caroline Lucas doing every single one of those roles, which isn't an issue Labour has or will ever have to face (see: Jo Swinson immediately resigning upon losing her seat, rather than staying on for a decade in the hope that she might somehow fall arse backwards into 10 Downing Street)

[Marsh.]

Not an MP



Also not an MP



Literally is not even a member of the Labour Party

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Zizu]

:joker::joker::joker::joker:



You’re still one step behind ??

They were all suggested for their looks .. nothing else ...

Just a bit of fun.


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[Marsh.]

You’re still one step behind ??


Several steps ahead of you pal.

[Denver]

Lisa Nandy is the one who interests me the most

[Zizu]

Lisa Nandy is the one who interests me the most



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[Zizu]

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Get the picture yet , Marshy ?


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[Ammi]

...to be fair, Zizu...I would say that Marsh does ‘get it’...but getting it, doesn’t make it any less disrespectful, undermining or sexist to post females, based on how physically attractive you think they are...

[Zizu]

...to be fair, Zizu...I would say that Marsh does ‘get it’...but getting it, doesn’t make it any less disrespectful, undermining or sexist to post females, based on how physically attractive you think they are...


I thought it was called having a sense of humour ?!

Have the rules changed now ??

I haven’t commented on their ‘political’ capabilities..

You think Tony Blair was fabulously popular solely because of his policies ?


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[Ammi]

...absolutely it’s your prerogative to have a sense of humour, Zizu...and to use it whenever and wherever you wish...but that ‘sense of humour’ is always going to be subjective...and when its content is sexist/undermining...its accepting that it’s going to be open to criticism also...

[Oliver_W]

I guess when it comes to who the next leader should be, they'd need to decide if people don't like Corbyn himself, or "Corbynomics". I

I'm gonna guess it's a bit of both, they should go for someone more along the lines of Blair (without the foreign policies, of course)

[GoldHeart]

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Because that's what's important isn't it her dress sense?!!! :sleep::bored: .

Screw the policies and what the party stands for ,let's focus on their looks, voice & fashion instead.

Boris Johnson could literally walk the streets covered in poo and people would still smile & vote for him , there's no hope .

[Zizu]

Because that's what's important isn't it her dress sense?!!! :sleep::bored: .



Screw the policies and what the party stands for ,let's focus on their looks, voice & fashion instead.



Boris Johnson could literally walk the streets covered in poo and people would still smile & vote for him , there's no hope .



Please don’t despair ...

I was just trying to lighten up the situation but it seems to have done the opposite..

I shall do what Corbyn was to cowardly to do ...

I resign with immediate effect

( from this thread) .


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[James]

One of the problems Labour have got now, is that when you look at the electoral map, they won almost nothing outside of the English cities apart from South Wales. So they are picking their leader (and the MPs that have to support the leader) from people who will not necessarily be in touch with the views of people outside the metropolitan bubbles.

I couldn't give a name - someone like Caroline Flint analysed the reasons for the election result properly - but she lost her seat.

The two main reasons for the Labour result:

The mistake of the 2nd EU Referendum policy (and the perception of Labour blocking Brexit) which alienated the working-class leave vote.
Corbyn and Labour being too left-wing which put off the middle class vote.

So someone from the centre ground - not a Corbyn protege - that acknowledges the mistake on Brexit policy. Blair was hated by people on the left but he understood how the country changed during the 80s. He is the only Labour leader to actually win a general election since Harold Wilson.

The third thing for me is that Labour needs a leader that is credible in Scotland, and will take back votes off the SNP, because Corbyn was a disaster up here.

[Kizzy]

Emily Thornberry would be a decent choice

I agree she'd have my vote.

[Liam-]

If Labour want to try and regain the leave vote in the next election, they need someone at the helm who was willing to respect the leave result, they won’t win if they throw a remainder to the top, that’s why I think Angela would be the perfect choice, she voted to remain, however she was willing to fight for the leave vote because that’s what her constituency wanted, they’ll never win if they don’t recognise the reasons they’ve lost the north and leave voters

[Oliver_W]

One of Corbyn's problems was that he doesn't know the working class outside of London as much as he thinks he does. The same goes for Emily Thornberry, her repellent manner is partly from being in the Sneering London Liberal Elite.

[Tom4784]

It honestly doesn't matter. Nothing will stop the Tory cult now. We are an unofficial one party state.

[arista]

One of the problems Labour have got now, is that when you look at the electoral map, they won almost nothing outside of the English cities apart from South Wales. So they are picking their leader (and the MPs that have to support the leader) from people who will not necessarily be in touch with the views of people outside the metropolitan bubbles.

I couldn't give a name - someone like Caroline Flint analysed the reasons for the election result properly - but she lost her seat.

The two main reasons for the Labour result:

The mistake of the 2nd EU Referendum policy (and the perception of Labour blocking Brexit) which alienated the working-class leave vote.
Corbyn and Labour being too left-wing which put off the middle class vote.

So someone from the centre ground - not a Corbyn protege - that acknowledges the mistake on Brexit policy. Blair was hated by people on the left but he understood how the country changed during the 80s. He is the only Labour leader to actually win a general election since Harold Wilson.

The third thing for me is that Labour needs a leader that is credible in Scotland, and will take back votes off the SNP, because Corbyn was a disaster up here.

Yes James , Scotland
SNP 48
Conservative 6
LibDem 4
Labour 1


Yes Corbyn kept going up to Scotland to meet
his team
The more he went , the more the locals
Hated Corbyn...........................


Could Jess Phillips
do well in Scotland?

[arista]

It honestly doesn't matter. Nothing will stop the Tory cult now. We are an unofficial one party state.


Only for 5 years

[Twosugars]

Only for 5 years

Glad to see you realize their lies will catch up with them next time. :thumbs:

[Black Dagger]

Only for 5 years

We've had 9 years of austerity and cuts and they still got a majority. Do you really think this dire nation is getting rid of them any time soon?

[Tom4784]

Only for 5 years

No, I don't think you'll ever get the Tories out of power now, too many gullible voters are willing to harm their own interests to vote for their Tory overlords.

[Cherie]

No, I don't think you'll ever get the Tories out of power now, too many gullible voters are willing to harm their own interests to vote for their Tory overlords.

You say that as if 2010 the Torys didn't have to be propped up by the Lib Dems, 2015 Camerons majority was so slim, May went again, and oh boy did people not vote against their own interests on that one :laugh:

[Tom4784]

You say that as if 2010 the Torys didn't have to be propped up by the Lib Dems, 2015 Camerons majority was so slim, May went again, and oh boy did people not vote against their own interests on that one :laugh:

But they were still Tory governments at the end of the day and after almost a decade of ****shows, the Tory now have their largest majority in decades despite how it's widely acknowledged that they have been shambolic. If almost ten years of this **** isn't enough to turn people against the Tories, nothing will.

All you have to do is get Murdoch to spin the idiot rags for you and you're guaranteed to always hold on to power.

[Oliver_W]

But they were still Tory governments at the end of the day and after almost a decade of ****shows, the Tory now have their largest majority in decades despite how it's widely acknowledged that they have been shambolic. If almost ten years of this **** isn't enough to turn people against the Tories, nothing will.

All you have to do is get Murdoch to spin the idiot rags for you and you're guaranteed to always hold on to power.

If Johnson is gonna be as bad as many seem to hope think he'll be, having a decent opposition in place could take his place in the following election.

There's no need to give up, let's just hope their next leader is more New Labour and/or Northern to make them more attractive to Joe Public. Whoever it is shouldn't be another London Bubble Leftie.

[Tom4784]

If Johnson is gonna be as bad as many seem to hope think he'll be, having a decent opposition in place could take his place in the following election.

There's no need to give up, let's just hope their next leader is more New Labour and/or Northern to make them more attractive to Joe Public. Whoever it is shouldn't be another London Bubble Leftie.

And all it takes is a little bit of spin to discredit any opposition. Boris is a KNOWN liar that's been sacked for lying, he has buried reports about Russia's influence and he has done things during this election that would have sunk other people's campaigns (Let's not forget that Ed Milliband was essentially sunk by how he ate a ****ing sandwich) but the public are closing their ears and eyes and going 'lalalalallalala' when even the NHS is at stake.

The people have proved to me that they are irreparable idiots and I will never place my faith in the public again. Let the tories bleed them dry and let them thank their overlords for it. I've had enough of hoping for better. My hope is dead.

[Brother Leon]

Does it matter? The media will just crucify them somehow and make them hated too. They even managed to do it to Bland Miliband ffs. They managed to make a guy who has fought for minorities his whole life seem like a racist. I suppose you got to be Tony Blair and be willing to send us to a pointless war and kill a million of those Muslims to stand a chance.

I’ll go with Rayner or Thornberry though.

[Ammi]

...the future of Labour...?...there is just so much bad stuff in the media about politicians in general...but Labour’s youngest MP, Nadia Whittome is a shining beacon of inspiration for a hopeful political future...’the power of youth’....:lovedup:...


The youngest MP in the UK has pledged to give away a large amount of her £79,000 salary to charity.

Labour's Nadia Whittome, 23, who won the Nottingham East seat in the general election, will only take home £35,000 after tax.

She will donate the rest to Nottingham charities because she does not want to earn more than public sector workers.

Ms Whittome told Nottinghamshire Live. "It's not about philanthropy and it's not that MPs don't deserve that salary, it's the fact our teaching assistants, nurses and firefighters do as well.

"When they get the pay rise they deserve, so will I. I hope this decision sparks a conversation about earnings.”


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...full article...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britains-youngest-mp-to-donate-part-her-79-k-salary-to-charity-nadia-whittome-labour-110200949.html

[smudgie]

...the future of Labour...?...there is just so much bad stuff in the media about politicians in general...but Labour’s youngest MP, Nadia Whittome is a shining beacon of inspiration for a hopeful political future...’the power of youth’....:lovedup:...


The youngest MP in the UK has pledged to give away a large amount of her £79,000 salary to charity.

Labour's Nadia Whittome, 23, who won the Nottingham East seat in the general election, will only take home £35,000 after tax.

She will donate the rest to Nottingham charities because she does not want to earn more than public sector workers.

Ms Whittome told Nottinghamshire Live. "It's not about philanthropy and it's not that MPs don't deserve that salary, it's the fact our teaching assistants, nurses and firefighters do as well.

"When they get the pay rise they deserve, so will I. I hope this decision sparks a conversation about earnings.”


https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/Tvv_pfylTupS8SbK0gzOCg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9OTYwO2g9NzIw/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-uploaded-images/2019-12/ba259b40-1e5d-11ea-b382-947f61b2a8fb


...full article...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britains-youngest-mp-to-donate-part-her-79-k-salary-to-charity-nadia-whittome-labour-110200949.html

She would get my vote, as long as her manifesto was as good.

[bots]

i listened to a young labour mp on Friday who seemed to speak a lot of sense ... no idea who he was though

[James]

Yes James , Scotland
SNP 48
Conservative 6
LibDem 4
Labour 1


Yes Corbyn kept going up to Scotland to meet
his team
The more he went , the more the locals
Hated Corbyn...........................


Could Jess Phillips
do well in Scotland?

Dunno how she would do. :conf: I want a Labour leader to stick up for Scotland's place in the UK, and not splitting up Britain. Not like Corbyn coming here saying we're going to allow another independence referendum which just fuelled the SNP.

I know Jess Phillips was a big enthusiast for another EU ref, and I think one of the things the new Labour leader needs to do is acknowledge, or at least realise, that policy cost votes.

[The Slim Reaper]

...the future of Labour...?...there is just so much bad stuff in the media about politicians in general...but Labour’s youngest MP, Nadia Whittome is a shining beacon of inspiration for a hopeful political future...’the power of youth’....:lovedup:...


The youngest MP in the UK has pledged to give away a large amount of her £79,000 salary to charity.

Labour's Nadia Whittome, 23, who won the Nottingham East seat in the general election, will only take home £35,000 after tax.

She will donate the rest to Nottingham charities because she does not want to earn more than public sector workers.

Ms Whittome told Nottinghamshire Live. "It's not about philanthropy and it's not that MPs don't deserve that salary, it's the fact our teaching assistants, nurses and firefighters do as well.

"When they get the pay rise they deserve, so will I. I hope this decision sparks a conversation about earnings.”


https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/Tvv_pfylTupS8SbK0gzOCg--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9OTYwO2g9NzIw/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-uploaded-images/2019-12/ba259b40-1e5d-11ea-b382-947f61b2a8fb


...full article...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britains-youngest-mp-to-donate-part-her-79-k-salary-to-charity-nadia-whittome-labour-110200949.html

She's a muslim Ammi. She'll be flooded with charges of anti semitism across the newspapers again.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/105170/most-tory-members-believe-islam-threat

54% of the Tory rank-and-file believe that Islam is generally a threat to the British way of life

60% think that Islam is generally a threat to Western civilisation

The YouGov study follows polling results released last month, which found that almost half of Conservative members would not accept a Muslim as the country's Prime Minister.

I know, I know, they just wanted to get brexit done, and we need to win these people back remember? :smug:

[Marsh.]

Get the picture yet , Marshy ?



Get what? That you took a post I made in response to SOMEONE ELSE and made it about you AGAIN? Yes, I noticed.

[James]

She's a muslim Ammi. She'll be flooded with charges of anti semitism across the newspapers again.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/news/105170/most-tory-members-believe-islam-threat

54% of the Tory rank-and-file believe that Islam is generally a threat to the British way of life

60% think that Islam is generally a threat to Western civilisation

The YouGov study follows polling results released last month, which found that almost half of Conservative members would not accept a Muslim as the country's Prime Minister.

I know, I know, they just wanted to get brexit done, and we need to win these people back remember? :smug:

Labour need to win back Conservative voters, not members.

[Tom4784]

She sounds like an amazing person but she'd be accused of being a terrorist sympathiser in seconds and the idiot rags would mount a campaign against her based on her race. Tory voters won't change their minds for a muslim woman. Boris has as much support as he has because he ticks all the white- I mean, 'right' boxes for Tory voters.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Labour need to win back Conservative voters, not members.

Or hide behind assusatory tactics

[SherzyK]

Get the picture yet , Marshy ?


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Why do you try so hard?

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[GoldHeart]

She sounds like an amazing person but she'd be accused of being a terrorist sympathiser in seconds and the idiot rags would mount a campaign against her based on her race. Tory voters won't change their minds for a muslim woman. Boris has as much support as he has because he ticks all the white- I mean, 'right' boxes for Tory voters.

Dezzy it doesn't matter who becomes the next labour leader as they'll instantly get hate regardless of race, gender or whatever they are :bored:. It seems like a lost cause but i guess they've got to try .

[Beso]

Nicola sturgeon

[Tom4784]

Dezzy it doesn't matter who becomes the next labour leader as they'll instantly get hate regardless of race, gender or whatever they are :bored:. It seems like a lost cause but i guess they've got to try .

True, but let's face it, they would turbo charge that hatred if it was a muslim woman that took over.

[Zizu]

I’ve just seen Richard Burgon being interviewed by Sophie Ridge on Sky News .. well she couldn’t interview him as appears to be a robot ( with some serious glitches ) .

What a complete idiot ..

Boris must be praying this chump is the next Labour leader




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[Zizu]

Also

I’ve been watching loads of interviews after the election ‘fallout ‘


Why when every male labour politician is directly asked if THEY will be standing for the labour leader role each one suggests the name of a FEMALE labour politician ?!?


It reminds me a bit of The Apprentice where at the start of each challenge the team members try their best to get someone else to be the team leader !!


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[bots]

i would have no objection to labour having a term or 2 in office if they started with a caring, middle of the road approach, and for goodness sake, pick the best candidate for the job. Someone with a bit of charisma, someone that can communicate well and wont fudge answering simple questions

Labour previously had a reputation of being driven by the unions, Tony Blair brought that in check for a while (hence his success) and now the power has reverted back to the unions. That needs to be brought back under control for labour to gain back its voters.

[Zizu]

Well all the Male labour mps are saying it should be a woman ..


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[Oliver_W]

Well all the Male labour mps are saying it should be a woman ..


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If a woman turns out to be the best person who's in the running, sure. But no-one should be chosen because of their gender, that's just stupid.

They should play it safe with someone like Andy Burnham, David Milliband ... give the Left a voice, but a sensible and credible one.

I don't know a great deal of female Labour MPs offhand...
Emily Thornberry - repellent, sneering. London bubble.
Dianne Abbott - mentally handicapped
Jess Phillips - would probably break down crying every time she got a mean tweet
They're the three "main" ones we hear from these days.