USA: President Trump , The Senate : Trump Acquitted Of Impeachment Charges

[arista]

The Numbers on the votes are enough to Impeach Trump
but that is all as at the Senate
he has enough votes to not remove him.


https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/18/politics/house-impeachment-vote/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-insists-he-did-nothing-wrong-as-impeachment-vote-looms-11889792

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-50827072

Its nearly midday
there now
so many hours to go.

[Oliver_W]

Bless the Dems. All they had to do to be in with a chance was not publicly soil themselves, but here they are... Dragging out a pointless spectacle which isn't gonna go anywhere...

[Epic.]

This'll be historical if it comes true :joker:

[Marsh.]

Doris next.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bless the Dems. All they had to do to be in with a chance was not publicly soil themselves, but here they are... Dragging out a pointless spectacle which isn't gonna go anywhere...

It's all a bit Gina Miller

And where is that hag now?

[Liam-]

There’s no way he’ll be convicted in the senate, too many Trump cultists for that to happen, but impeachment will be a stain on his presidency he’ll never live down, I’m loving his melt down right now

[Twosugars]

It's all a bit Gina Miller

And where is that hag now?

That "hag" fought against the executive overriding the legislature, a key principle in parliamentary democracy.
But you go off.
SNP would never :hehe:

[Twosugars]

Bless the Dems. All they had to do to be in with a chance was not publicly soil themselves, but here they are... Dragging out a pointless spectacle which isn't gonna go anywhere...

It's worth it. To show how pathetic the Republicans have become defending the orange abomination. Rule of law, Ollie.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That "hag" fought against the executive overriding the legislature, a key principle in parliamentary democracy.
But you go off.
SNP would never :hehe:

In it for the fame and now she has been routed and exposed never to be seen again. Awful

[arista]

There’s no way he’ll be convicted in the senate, too many Trump cultists for that to happen, but impeachment will be a stain on his presidency he’ll never live down, I’m loving his melt down right now

Very True
Wise Liam.

[Oliver_W]

It's worth it. To show how pathetic the Republicans have become defending the orange abomination. Rule of law, Ollie.

I think it's more pathetic trying to get him removed from office when they know they have a snowman in hell's chance of succeeding. You don't start a war you know you can't win, and all this does is make it look like the Dems know they can't win against him "fairly"

[Liam-]

Very True
Wise Liam.

That’s not to say he doesn’t deserve to be removed, it’s just a damning reflection of the Republicans refusal to follow the constitution, Donnie could curb stomp someone to death in the Oval Office and they still wouldn’t vote to remove him from office, they have no respect for the law or the constitution that built America and that’s what they’ll be remembered for, turning their backs on the country in favour of a national security risk.

[Twosugars]

In it for the fame and now she has been routed and exposed never to be seen again. Awful

She won in courts :pat:

[Twosugars]

I think it's more pathetic trying to get him removed from office when they know they have a snowman in hell's chance of succeeding. You don't start a war you know you can't win, and all this does is make it look like the Dems know they can't win against him "fairly"

What is unfair about the constitutional mechanism? :laugh:

[Liam-]

I think it's more pathetic trying to get him removed from office when they know they have a snowman in hell's chance of succeeding. You don't start a war you know you can't win, and all this does is make it look like the Dems know they can't win against him "fairly"

Yeah it’s all a bit pointless because he won’t be removed, but personally I think they’re playing it clever, they know he won’t be removed when he probably should be, so by rightfully impeaching him, that allows the majority of voters, the 54% of Americans who believe he should be impeached and removed, the chance to see what the Republicans stand for, people who happily impeach over a lie about a blowjob in the Oval Office, but stand by a risk to their security and attack their intelligence services, it shows the people what everyone’s about and how they play fast and lose with the constitution

[Oliver_W]

What is unfair about the constitutional mechanism? :laugh:

You misunderstand. They know that in a standard presidential e!ection, they have no chance of winning against him. So they want to use any means they can to get him out the way.

[Twosugars]

You misunderstand. They know that in a standard presidential e!ection, they have no chance of winning against him. So they want to use any means they can to get him out the way.

Nothing to do with his abuse of office then? :facepalm:

Do you ignore law and principle bc it suits you politically? Answer me this pls. Bc if you think it's acceptable then we have nothing to talk about.

[Twosugars]

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[Oliver_W]

Nothing to do with his abuse of office then? :facepalm:

Do you ignore law and principle bc it suits you politically? Answer me this pls. Bc if you think it's acceptable then we have nothing to talk about.

The claims being made against him are shaky at best, completely unfounded at worst. I'm not against people facing the law, but only when the actual law is being implemented for actual crimes.

[Beso]

Donald will deflect the blows with his enormous testicles...no sweat.

[GiRTh]

You misunderstand. They know that in a standard presidential e!ection, they have no chance of winning against him. So they want to use any means they can to get him out the way.You havent been following that at all have you? All the top democrat candidates beat Trump in head to head. So this idea they cant beat him? Where you get that from?
https://www.newsweek.com/new-poll-shows-top-democrats-beating-trump-2020-1476714

The claims being made against him are shaky at best, completely unfounded at worst. I'm not against people facing the law, but only when the actual law is being implemented for actual crimes.Really? Trumps admitted to it, Mulvaneys admitted to it, Guilianis admitted to it, Sondlands admitted to it, Trump wont let any of his top aides testify and has blocked the release of relevant documents and you call that shaky?

[Tom4784]

What he did was quid pro quo and a lot of the members above that are pretending otherwise would have been screaming for Obama's head if he did even a little bit of what Trump has done over the years.

Take your politics out of it, this is a question of morality. many witnesses have spoken out against him, many independent professors of the constitution have stated that what Trump has done justifies impeachment. Just look at all the people around Trump that have been arrested and convicted of crimes committed in Trump's service. Look at the fact that Trump defrauded his charity for his own benefit. He is a crook, and if you're spinning things for him that this is unjustified or ridiculous then you can't see the forest for the trees.

He will be impeached and the Republicans who voted to convict Clinton for a blowjob will vote to acquit Trump regardless of the evidence, Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham have both basically said they'll work with the president to ensure an acquital. That is like the jury making a deal with the defendant.

The republicans and the right in general are showing themselves to be completely corrupt and devoid of morals in matters regarding Trump since it's all okay as long as it's their guy that's being accused. They'll just look the other way. Trump won't be removed from office but his presidency will be stained and hopefully, so will the republicans when they make their corruption clear by acquitting a guilty man.

[Samm]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Oops

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[Tom4784]

Oops

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Embarrassing.

[Oliver_W]

I have no doubt that Trump talked about Biden, he probably moans to everyone about everyone else. But i doubt he asked for espionage from the President of ... Ukraine :joker: a country which is barely out of Russia's thumb and that requires foreign aid is hardly gonna send James Bond.

[thesheriff443]

It’s just mud throwing, it will get to the senate and be thrown out.

20 members of his own party would have vote against him.

[Twosugars]

I have no doubt that Trump talked about Biden, he probably moans to everyone about everyone else. But i doubt he asked for espionage from the President of ... Ukraine :joker: a country which is barely out of Russia's thumb and that requires foreign aid is hardly gonna send James Bond.

What are you taking about? What espionage? :joker::joker:

Ollie be honest you dont even know this case

[Tom4784]

It’s just mud throwing, it will get to the senate and be thrown out.

20 members of his own party would have vote against him.

It's only mud slinging if you choose to ignore the facts.

But yes, it will get thrown out because you can't expect 20 republicans to uphold the law when Mitch McConnell is so brazen and proud of the fact that he is planning on flouting the constitution to get a guilty man acquitted.

Republicans and the Right Wing only believe in justice when it benefits them.

[arista]

Trump is Live in Battle Creek , Michigan
"Massive" Rally
SkyNewsHD (owned by NBC/Comcast)
saying how his Farmers get 16 Billion Dollars
during the China Trade War.

Meanwhile 9 mins to go on a vote
Capitol Hill.


FoxNewsHD (online only) has trump feed
in a little square , no sound

[arista]

Trump has now been Impeached
for Abuse of Power,
and Obstruction of Justice.

2 Counts.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMHTLWZW4AQTgU8?format=jpg&name=small

https://news.sky.com/story/live-debate-under-way-ahead-of-historic-vote-to-impeach-donald-trump-11889901


Feel The Force

[Oliver_W]

What are you taking about? What espionage? :joker::joker:

The allegation is that he asked the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Biden... how would that not be espionage?

[arista]

Trump is Live On SkyNewsHD
talking about him being Impeached
Live Battle Creek.

Saying how 2 Democrats went to his side

[Tom4784]

The allegation is that he asked the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Biden... how would that not be espionage?

That's not espionage, that's abuse of power and it's not so much an allegation as a known thing now. Even the republicans aren't denying it, they're just trying to spin it to suit them.

Espionage is spying and espionage in another country wouldn't be an impeachable offence typically because it's something all nations do but threatening to hold relief that was agreed upon in order to try to gain a personal advantage over a rival is an abuse of power..

[Ammi]

...I’m very highly educated...I know words, I have the best words....



....im-peach-ment....

[Oliver_W]

That's not espionage, that's abuse of power and it's not so much an allegation as a known thing now. Even the republicans aren't denying it, they're just trying to spin it to suit them.

Espionage is spying and espionage in another country wouldn't be an impeachable offence typically because it's something all nations do but threatening to hold relief that was agreed upon in order to try to gain a personal advantage over a rival is an abuse of power..

I wasn't saying Trump carried out the espionage, I was saying the allegation was that he asked the Ukrainian president to carry it out :joker:

Or at least that's what's being alledged, by an anonymous person who didn't even hear the phone call.
I have no doubt that Trump talked about Biden, he probably moans to everyone about everyone else. But i doubt he asked for espionage from the President of ... Ukraine a country which is barely out of Russia's thumb and that requires foreign aid is hardly gonna send James Bond.

[thesheriff443]

It's only mud slinging if you choose to ignore the facts.

But yes, it will get thrown out because you can't expect 20 republicans to uphold the law when Mitch McConnell is so brazen and proud of the fact that he is planning on flouting the constitution to get a guilty man acquitted.

Republicans and the Right Wing only believe in justice when it benefits them.

The old saying, friends in high places.

[Liam-]

I have no doubt that Trump talked about Biden, he probably moans to everyone about everyone else. But i doubt he asked for espionage from the President of ... Ukraine :joker: a country which is barely out of Russia's thumb and that requires foreign aid is hardly gonna send James Bond.

He asked it publicly of China so why is it so hard to believe that he did it privately as well?

[Epic.]

Haha, You're Fired Donald :wink:

[Oliver_W]

He asked it publicly of China so why is it so hard to believe that he did it privately as well?

If he publicly asked China to do it, why would he do it privately with the Ukraine?

[Liam-]

If he publicly asked China to do it, why would he do it privately with the Ukraine?

Because he’s a moron who has no idea how anything is supposed to work and does what he wants, when he wants and expects to get away with it

[Oliver_W]

Because he’s a moron who has no idea how anything is supposed to work and does what he wants, when he wants and expects to get away with it

Then why wouldn't he do it publicly?

[Crimson Dynamo]

The democrats have put all their efforts into this partizan show trial instead of picking a decent candidate to go against Trump, its pathetic to watch. :(

[Nicky91]

bye bye orange clown :wavey:


#DemocratsBackIntoPower :cheer:

[Twosugars]

The allegation is that he asked the Ukrainian president to dig up dirt on Biden... how would that not be espionage?

:joker:official investigation not espionage

[thesheriff443]

The democrats have put all their efforts into this partizan show trial instead of picking a decent candidate to go against Trump, its pathetic to watch. :(

It’s true, and this will probably make him more popular.

It’s all bark and no bite.

[Marsh.]

:laugh2:

[bots]

it's just highlighted for me what a mess USA politics is in. Listening to the GOP trying to defend Trump is embarrassing

The funny thing is that the American people will probably vote for another 4 years of Trump, and that's democracy.

Clinton was impeached and left with an approval rating higher than any previous president :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Kizzy]

A good day to bury bad news...

As impeachment was being debated, an appeals court delivered a long-awaited*ruling*on the*Affordable Care Act. The court said that the “individual mandate” provision of Obamacare was unconstitutional while punting a broader decision on whether the entire law was valid.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/dec/18/trump-impeachment-vote-today-live-latest-news-updates-democrats-house

[The Slim Reaper]

The democrats have put all their efforts into this partizan show trial instead of picking a decent candidate to go against Trump, its pathetic to watch. :(

You're almost there LT. You're right that the senate will be a partisan show trial, however, serious conservative scholars agree what Trump did was illegal and an act he should be removed for.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're almost there LT. You're right that the senate will be a partisan show trial, however, serious conservative scholars agree what Trump did was illegal and an act he should be removed for.

who?

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[The Slim Reaper]

who?

You can search for republicans for the rule of law for starters.

None other than Kellyanne Conway's husband, George Conway, another conservative lawyer is also in favour. It's only the carnival barkers in the government, and the toothless MAGA serfs that are blindly loyal against their own constitution.

[smudgie]

I doubt this impeachment will make any difference to the status quo.
He won’t be ousted.:shrug:

[The Slim Reaper]

I doubt this impeachment will make any difference to the status quo.
He won’t be ousted.:shrug:

You don't refuse to prosecute criminals because a jury may acquit

[arista]

Haha, You're Fired Donald :wink:


Yes
In the Senate next month
he will be protected
and not removed


So what a waste of time and money..................

[Oliver_W]

You don't refuse to prosecute criminals because a jury may acquit

Someone doesn't face a criminal court because they maybe possibly said or did something according to a "witness" who didn't see or what they're accusing him of.

[The Slim Reaper]

Someone doesn't face a criminal court because they maybe possibly said or did something according to a "witness" who didn't see or what they're accusing him of.

If you phone in an anonymous tip, that the police investigate and find a whole load of witnesses that back up your tip, then the accused tries to prevent anyone from testifying, then yeah, that's exactly how investigations work.

[Kizzy]

Intimidation of witnesses is frowned upon as a rule.

[Braden]

I don't want to be that person who comes into the thread and comments despite not knowing anything, but what does this even mean?

Trump has been 'impeached' but he's still president, right?

[user104658]

I don't want to be that person who comes into the thread and comments despite not knowing anything, but what does this even mean?

Trump has been 'impeached' but he's still president, right?

Impeachment happens at Congress and is essentially a delcaration that there's a case to answer, the trial for removal happens at Senate but requires a 2/3 majority vote to remove the president... and the parties tend to (as always) vote along party lines so he will not be removed. The 2/3 majority rule makes it a relatively pointless process, to be honest.

He's only the 3rd president to be impeached in US history which should say a lot, but his supporters won't care.

[The Slim Reaper]

Impeachment happens at Congress and is essentially a delcaration that there's a case to answer, the trial for removal happens at Senate but requires a 2/3 majority vote to remove the president... and the parties tend to (as always) vote along party lines so he will not be removed. The 2/3 majority rule makes it a relatively pointless process, to be honest.

He's only the 3rd president to be impeached in US history which should say a lot, but his supporters won't care.

You missed off the part where Trump gets to decide if he wants a trial by combat against Obama. Only fair to give Braden the full picture.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its political showboating at its worst and illustrates how desperate and out of touch the Democrats are (and naturally worried they will get battered in 2020)

[Tom4784]

The democrats have put all their efforts into this partizan show trial instead of picking a decent candidate to go against Trump, its pathetic to watch. :(

By supporting him now, you voice support for everything he has done, so you are never allowed to claim faux outrage and pretend you are moralistic when you voice support for a president that openly mocked a disabled person and veterans, who attacks a 16 year old girl because a magazine gave her an award (You share that in common with Trump, actually) and has actually defrauded charity to pay for his campaign. Shall we go over everything he's done in office now?

You cannot support Trump and pretend to have any kind of morals.

[Crimson Dynamo]

By supporting him now, you voice support for everything he has done, so you are never allowed to claim faux outrage and pretend you are moralistic when you voice support for a president that openly mocked a disabled person and veterans, who attacks a 16 year old girl because a magazine gave her an award (You share that in common with Trump, actually) and has actually defrauded charity to pay for his campaign. Shall we go over everything he's done in office now?

You cannot support Trump and pretend to have any kind of morals.


:facepalm:

[The Slim Reaper]

Its political showboating at its worst and illustrates how desperate and out of touch the Democrats are (and naturally worried they will get battered in 2020)

Witness after witness turned up to say it was wrong and against the constitution. Take Sondland, who got his ambassadorship after donating $1million dollars to trump, said it was a quid pro quo. These aren't democrats.

[Tom4784]

:facepalm:

If someone breaks the law, they must face the consequences but the Right Wing only believe that when it benefits them, as evidenced by you. If Obama pulled this **** then you'd be screeching endlessly for his impeachment, the difference between us is that I would be too. That's what true morality is, accountability. Guilt shouldn't be dependant on allegiance but that's certainly how the right sees it.

As far as I know, not a single republican in the house voted to impeach and they won't in the senate either and that just shows how morally bankrupt they all are. If this was a normal trial, the Jury would face consequences for such corruption but because it's the republicans, you cheer it on.

Continue to respond with emojis because you have nothing to say in return.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Witness after witness turned up to say it was wrong and against the constitution. Take Sondland, who got his ambassadorship after donating $1million dollars to trump, said it was a quid pro quo. These aren't democrats.

its a poor partisan, political move by the Do Nothing Democrats, fuelled by tribal animosities.

No wonder America is so divided - smh

[Beso]

Nothing more than a load of lawyers wanting some extra dough..a complete waste of time and money.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, a waste of time holding the President accountable for his ILLEGAL actions. :facepalm:

[Tom4784]

Morality shouldn't be a partisan issue but the right wing will certainly do it's best to make it one.

If you disregard evidence to alleviate blame from someone just because they are alligned with you, you have no moral fibre.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nothing more than a load of lawyers wanting some extra dough..a complete waste of time and money.

you got it Parmy

[Tom4784]

Yeah, a waste of time holding the President accountable for his ILLEGAL actions. :facepalm:

You can't hold him responsible! He stands on the white - I mean, right side of history.

I need to stop mixing up my words with these Freudian slips.

[Twosugars]

Vladimir Putin has criticised the impeachment of Donald Trump, dismissing the charges as “absolutely made up” and saying he expected the US president to survive the historic proceedings




:laugh:

Crooks United

[Tom4784]

:laugh:

Crooks United

He's got to protect his puppet after all.

[thesheriff443]

Yeah, a waste of time holding the President accountable for his ILLEGAL actions. :facepalm:

Of course it is, will he be removed from office?, no

[smudgie]

You don't refuse to prosecute criminals because a jury may acquit

Indeed.
Shouldn’t really be an option to stay on if guilty of impeachment.
In my opinion.

[Tom4784]

Of course it is, will he be removed from office?, no

Not holding him accountable means you are giving him free license to flout any and all laws.

What a strange grasp of morality you seem to have. When the impeachment leads nowhere, it won't be a declaration of innocence for Trump but a look at how corrupt the republicans truly are.

It's an open and shut case, given the wealth of evidence so if a removal from office doesn't occur, it shows how truly inept and corrupt the republican led senate is.

[Marsh.]

Of course it is, will he be removed from office?, no

He doesn't need to be removed for it to have an effect.

[thesheriff443]

Not holding him accountable means you are giving him free license to flout any and all laws.

What a strange grasp of morality you seem to have. When the impeachment leads nowhere, it won't be a declaration of innocence for Trump but a look at how corrupt the republicans truly are.

It's an open and shut case, given the wealth of evidence so if a removal from office doesn't occur, it shows how truly inept and corrupt the republican led senate is.

The world is corrupt, what it shows is he is guilty but is getting away with it.

Morals are worth nothing in politics or anything else, history has proved that.

[thesheriff443]

He doesn't need to be removed for it to have an effect.

What effect will have?

[Marsh.]

What effect will have?

You just said it exposes him as guilty. A stain on his presidency, which will damage him going into the next election cycle.

[Tom4784]

The world is corrupt, what it shows is he is guilty but is getting away with it.

Morals are worth nothing in politics or anything else, history has proved that.

So, you complain about the state of the world, yet you believe people shouldn't be held accountable for making it worse.

Okay.

[The Slim Reaper]

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When republicans are honest

[Tom4784]

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When republicans are honest

'Quick! Go to one of the plants!'

[thesheriff443]

So, you complain about the state of the world, yet you believe people shouldn't be held accountable for making it worse.

Okay.

Oh yes life is really going to change for trump.

Does morals come into it when a chemist will not give someone dying of a nut allergy a epi pen.

You think you have more morals than me, the truth is I don’t feel the need to prove to the world who I am.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You just said it exposes him as guilty. A stain on his presidency, which will damage him going into the next election cycle.

History proves the opposite, it is house that brings the call that end up being damaged

Trump moved up 6 points in popularity i think they said on BBC Radio 2 today (their analyst played the whole thing down as a futile stunt that will lead to no where)

[Tom4784]

Oh yes life is really going to change for trump.

Does morals come into it when a chemist will not give someone dying of a nut allergy a epi pen.

You think you have more morals than me, the truth is I don’t feel the need to prove to the world who I am.

It's about making a stand, even if corruption allows him to escape punishment for his crimes until he's out of office, it's about showing that he can't do as he pleases.

Your whole attitude is just acceptance masked as apathy. You pretend not to care when you are actually defending Trump and his actions by basically making out that the process shouldn't happen.

[The Slim Reaper]

Oh yes life is really going to change for trump.

Does morals come into it when a chemist will not give someone dying of a nut allergy a epi pen.

You think you have more morals than me, the truth is I don’t feel the need to prove to the world who I am.

Can you expand on the bit in bold please? I don't get either the connection or have any idea why chemists need to hand out epipens over medical professionals. Cheers.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"You said it was about this terrible Russia collusion. When that fell through, it
was about emoluments, it’s about bribery, it’s about extortion. It’s changed, but
one thing hasn’t changed and that’s the intent to impeach this president. It’s
always been there.


Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) said, “Democrats have been triggered into impeaching
the President – because they don’t like him, and they don’t like us.”

[thesheriff443]

You just said it exposes him as guilty. A stain on his presidency, which will damage him going into the next election cycle.

He is clearly guilty but getting away with it, this will only make people keep there mouths shut knowing he cant Be touched.

[Marsh.]

History proves the opposite, it is house that brings the call that end up being damaged

Trump moved up 6 points in popularity i think they said on BBC Radio 2 today (their analyst played the whole thing down as a futile stunt that will lead to no where)

He didn't go up.

What happened was people who already supported him either a) stuck their finger in their ears and pretended it wasn't happening. A massive portion of his supporters get by on pretending. or b) they will stick by him because it's Trump and they support him and they don't really care. Even though they'll scream until their blue in the face about holding other presidential candidates to the letter of the law.

[Marsh.]

He is clearly guilty but getting away with it, this will only make people keep there mouths shut knowing he cant Be touched.

Hmm possibly.
It might give some of his voters a wake up call

[Marsh.]

"You said it was about this terrible Russia collusion. When that fell through, it
was about emoluments, it’s about bribery, it’s about extortion. It’s changed, but
one thing hasn’t changed and that’s the intent to impeach this president. It’s
always been there.


Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) said, “Democrats have been triggered into impeaching
the President – because they don’t like him, and they don’t like us.”

Or maybe it' the obvious.... Trump keeps breaking the law.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Tom4784]

He is clearly guilty but getting away with it, this will only make people keep there mouths shut knowing he cant Be touched.

But he already has been. The impeachment in itself is a blow against Trump and a permament stain on his and his family's legacy. He won't be known as the billionaire businessman that oozed success, he'll be known as an impeached president that was a joke to everyone but his ardent followers. For a narcissist such as him, that's a deep cut.

The fact that this process is showing himself up to be even more deranged than usual is a benefit too.

This whole process has hurt Trump in a way nothing else has these past few years.

[Tom4784]

"You said it was about this terrible Russia collusion. When that fell through, it
was about emoluments, it’s about bribery, it’s about extortion. It’s changed, but
one thing hasn’t changed and that’s the intent to impeach this president. It’s
always been there.


Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) said, “Democrats have been triggered into impeaching
the President – because they don’t like him, and they don’t like us.”

People with actual moral fibre dislike criminals, what a shocker.

People with flawed character and morals will continue to support a known criminal who has consistently flouted the laws he should be upholding.

[Beso]

So, you complain about the state of the world, yet you believe people shouldn't be held accountable for making it worse.

Okay.

Imo he was trying to make it better.

[Tom4784]

Imo he was trying to make it better.

Through corruption, division and tax breaks to the rich with none for those who need it? He hasn't done anything meaningful that wasn't for the benefit of himself or his billionaire buddies. Anything he claims to have done tends to crumble when you look at it in depth.

The only way anyone can pretend to make out that he's tried to make the world better is by disregarding the facts, evidence to the contrary and common sense.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Incredible fundraising numbers!@realDonaldTrump has raised over 5M dollars (still growing) today as Americans use their wallet to show support against @SpeakerPelosi’s impeachment hoax!"

https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/trump-campaign-5-million-impeachment-day

[The Slim Reaper]

1iIBF9pBoxA

oio05Ahucwk

[Crimson Dynamo]

1Yg-OoPyD-g

[thesheriff443]

It's about making a stand, even if corruption allows him to escape punishment for his crimes until he's out of office, it's about showing that he can't do as he pleases.

Your whole attitude is just acceptance masked as apathy. You pretend not to care when you are actually defending Trump and his actions by basically making out that the process shouldn't happen.

My attitude is, trump is guilty but because he is basically getting away with it, he ruined a woman’s career who served her country for many years and was well respected.

Now people in any position will keep their mouths shut knowing he can’t be touched.

Your outrage will achieve as much as my, I don’t care attitude.

[Crimson Dynamo]

5cl1UKE0cY4

[Liam-]

Oh aye, Putin, the keenest defender of democracy and legality

[arista]

They are not handing to the Senate
they do not want Trump to Win.

Pathetic
what a waste of time and money,

[Scarlett.]

5cl1UKE0cY4

"Russian collusion isnt a thing"

"Also here's a video of the Russian leader defending Trump"

[Oliver_W]

But he already has been. The impeachment in itself is a blow against Trump and a permament stain on his and his family's legacy. He won't be known as the billionaire businessman that oozed success, he'll be known as an impeached president that was a joke to everyone but his ardent followers. For a narcissist such as him, that's a deep cut.

The fact that this process is showing himself up to be even more deranged than usual is a benefit too.

This whole process has hurt Trump in a way nothing else has these past few years.

Nah he's a silver lining person, he'll see it as a failed attempt to unseat gim before his second term.

[Twosugars]

Nah he's a silver lining person, he'll see it as a failed attempt to unseat gim before his second term.

As a narcissist he does not like it :hehe:

Did you read his 6 pages rambling letter to Pelosi?

[Oliver_W]

As a narcissist he does not like it :hehe:

Did you read his 6 pages rambling letter to Pelosi?

I've got better things to read than his crayon scribblings.

[GiRTh]

1Yg-OoPyD-gA bit obvious from the Telegraph.

One of the reasons why Pelosi was always reluctant to impeach was due to the boost every impeached President gets at the poll. Trumps gone up 6% is nothing, Clinton had an approval rating in the 70 when he was impeached, Donnie is barely reaching 45. He hasn't got the boost he needed.

[GiRTh]

Nah he's a silver lining person, he'll see it as a failed attempt to unseat gim before his second term.No the narcissist will see this a undermining his win and he wont be getting a 2nd term

[Crimson Dynamo]

A bit obvious from the Telegraph.

One of the reasons why Pelosi was always reluctant to impeach was due to the boost every impeached President gets at the poll. Trumps gone up 6% is nothing, Clinton had an approval rating in the 70 when he was impeached, Donnie is barely reaching 45. He hasn't got the boost he needed.

L8ke you can compare

[GiRTh]

L8ke you can compare:conf:

Its all there LT look it up.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:conf:

Its all there LT look it up.

It aint

[GiRTh]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/presidential-approval-poll-tracker-n1102776

Donnie at 47%

fter his impeachment proceedings in 1998 and 1999, Clinton's rating reached its highest point at 73% approval.[3] He finished with a Gallup poll approval rating of 65%,[4] higher than that of every other departing president measured since Harry Truman.[5]

From Clintons wiki.

[GiRTh]

It aint:conf:

Do you have a contribution to the thread?

[Twosugars]

It aint

https://i.imgur.com/gP0tuDA.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

:conf:

Do you have a contribution to the thread?

Yes all day when you were asleep or out or working. Have the decency to read back ?

[GiRTh]

I've read back and you've contributed a bunch of Cherry picked articles. Anything else?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I've read back and you've contributed a bunch of Cherry picked articles. Anything else?

And what have you?

[GiRTh]

And what have you?You're right LT we both need to get back on topic. :thumbs:

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're right LT we both need to get back on topic. :thumbs:

There is no topic just a failed Partizan embassment

Most commentators agree

[Tom4784]

And what have you?

He posted this, which you ignored and proceeded to do what you always do when you've lost your footing, distract and divert and talk about anything other than the facts.

Here's the post, ignoring it will just undermine everything you say from here on out on this subject and I will keep bringing it up if you ignore it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/presidential-approval-poll-tracker-n1102776

Donnie at 47%



From Clintons wiki.

[thesheriff443]

He posted this, which you ignored and proceeded to do what you always do when you've lost your footing, distract and divert and talk about anything other than the facts.

Here's the post, ignoring it will just undermine everything you say from here on out on this subject and I will keep bringing it up if you ignore it.

Do you actually think lt, cares what you or anyone else thinks.

News flash he don’t just like anyone else who lives in the real world.

[Beso]

Welcome to my world.

[Twosugars]

Do you actually think lt, cares what you or anyone else thinks.

News flash he don’t just like anyone else who lives in the real world.

Are you his spokesman?

Real world :laugh: is that your best argument if you disagree with someone?
You do realize this is a discussion forum :hehe:

[thesheriff443]

Are you his spokesman?

Real world :laugh: is that your best argument if you disagree with someone?
You do realize this is a discussion forum :hehe:

I know exactly what it is, back after your melt down are we?.

Yes I can speak for lt, and say he does not care what dizzy thinks.

Dezzy posting like lt has to answer to him in order for lt’s Opinion to be validated.

[Twosugars]

I know exactly what it is, back after your melt down are we?.

Yes I can speak for lt, and say he does not care what dizzy thinks.

Dezzy posting like lt has to answer to him in order for lt’s Opinion to be validated.

What meltdown? :laugh: what fantasy land you're living in?

Ans LT is the first one to demand links and proofs. It's only natural the same is expected of him.

[Tom4784]

Do you actually think lt, cares what you or anyone else thinks.

News flash he don’t just like anyone else who lives in the real world.

That's not a response.

[Tom4784]

I know exactly what it is, back after your melt down are we?.

Yes I can speak for lt, and say he does not care what dizzy thinks.

Dezzy posting like lt has to answer to him in order for lt’s Opinion to be validated.

LT asked for something from Slim, Slim answered and LT refused to acknowledge it because he knew he couldn't refute it, instead he went in on Slim to try to distract from the fact he didn't have an answer to the links that Slim provided.

This is a debate thread, you can't just ignore responses you don't want to answer because you don't have a response so I'm not gonna let LT get away with trying to distract everyone from the fact he chose not to answer. He can choose not to answer but that will undermine his opinion going forward. I respond to all points made to me in a debate whether it puts me at a disadvantage or not because that's how debates work.

Why are you even posting here when you only screech at people that nothing matters? That is a nothing response that doesn't add anything to the discussion, you only seek to destroy the discussion at hand and if you aren't interested in taking part in the discussion then don't. Especially if all you have to add is hypocritical defenses of your friends who are guilty of the things you accuse me and others of doing.

[thesheriff443]

LT asked for something from Slim, Slim answered and LT refused to acknowledge it because he knew he couldn't refute it, instead he went in on Slim to try to distract from the fact he didn't have an answer to the links that Slim provided.

This is a debate thread, you can't just ignore responses you don't want to answer because you don't have a response so I'm not gonna let LT get away with trying to distract everyone from the fact he chose not to answer. He can choose not to answer but that will undermine his opinion going forward. I respond to all points made to me in a debate whether it puts me at a disadvantage or not because that's how debates work.

Why are you even posting here when you only screech at people that nothing matters? That is a nothing response that doesn't add anything to the discussion, you only seek to destroy the discussion at hand and if you aren't interested in taking part in the discussion then don't. Especially if all you have to add is hypocritical defenses of your friends who are guilty of the things you accuse me and others of doing.

I can post in any thread I want and I can say anything I want.

Debates, as if you respect lt’s opinion!.

You are the one that keeps throwing the word morals around and how I have none but you have the full set.

You think you can pull lt, up for another member and not get pulled up yourself.

I think it’s you that’s being hypocritical.

[Ammi]

A bit obvious from the Telegraph.

One of the reasons why Pelosi was always reluctant to impeach was due to the boost every impeached President gets at the poll. Trumps gone up 6% is nothing, Clinton had an approval rating in the 70 when he was impeached, Donnie is barely reaching 45. He hasn't got the boost he needed.

...that’s interesting actually, Girth...I hadn’t realised how an impeachment could boost the poll popularity...why is that, then...?...but ouch at his barely moving as well...

[thesheriff443]

You might aswell go into Tesco and have a debate with a frozen chicken because by the time this thread is posted to death hundreds of more kids have dyed from starvation while people’s bins are full of wasted food.

Humans killing other humans by doing nothing.

[The Slim Reaper]

1207875577920860160

Bad news when the evangelical base starts writing stuff like this.

[The Slim Reaper]

You might aswell go into Tesco and have a debate with a frozen chicken because by the time this thread is posted to death hundreds of more kids have dyed from starvation while people’s bins are full of wasted food.

Humans killing other humans by doing nothing.

Sir, this is burger king. May I take your order?

[Tom4784]

I can post in any thread I want and I can say anything I want.

Debates, as if you respect lt’s opinion!.

You are the one that keeps throwing the word morals around and how I have none but you have the full set.

You think you can pull lt, up for another member and not get pulled up yourself.

I think it’s you that’s being hypocritical.

You can say what you want and I can say what I want in response, you think freedom of speech is a one way street. That you and your friends can say what you want but responses you don't like are unfair attacks on your character and it's complete snowflake bull****.

You lack morals if you defend a criminal and hope that they don't face consequences for their crimes. A lot of people defending Trump in this thread will often try and take the moral highground in other issues and so their views here are nothing more than hypocritical. These same people would want a Democrat president to be impeached on less evidence yet are screaming for Trump to be acquited on a **** ton of evidence that they don't want to acknowledge.

I'm all about accountability but your accusations are nothing more than trumped up bull**** and your hypocrisy in refusing to acknowledge your buddies' wrongdoing will forever make those accusations more ridiculous then they already are.

You'll never be able to come for me while you're being so godamn hypocritical.

[Tom4784]

1207875577920860160

Bad news when the evangelical base starts writing stuff like this.

I think it's only the more reasonable ones that will turn against him now. I'm pretty sure Jesus could rise from the dead and tell the Evangelicals that they are wrong to support Trump and they would denounce him given that they consider Trump to be their saviour which is really ****ing weird given that he is the furthest thing from embodying Jesus' values.

[arista]

Pelosi
is not sending it to the Senate?

Jeff Van Drew was a Democrat
has now Joined the Republicans

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/12/19/22/22472036-7811741-image-a-3_1576793714881.jpg
Yesterday
Jeff meeting the President.

[Van Drew was one of only two Democrats
to vote against the two articles of impeachment against Trump
in the full House vote Wednesday night]

[thesheriff443]

You can say what you want and I can say what I want in response, you think freedom of speech is a one way street. That you and your friends can say what you want but responses you don't like are unfair attacks on your character and it's complete snowflake bull****.

You lack morals if you defend a criminal and hope that they don't face consequences for their crimes. A lot of people defending Trump in this thread will often try and take the moral highground in other issues and so their views here are nothing more than hypocritical. These same people would want a Democrat president to be impeached on less evidence yet are screaming for Trump to be acquited on a **** ton of evidence that they don't want to acknowledge.

I'm all about accountability but your accusations are nothing more than trumped up bull**** and your hypocrisy in refusing to acknowledge your buddies' wrongdoing will forever make those accusations more ridiculous then they already are.

You'll never be able to come for me while you're being so godamn hypocritical.

Coming for you, sit down.

[Beso]

Hand on hips, wavey finger "don't you come at me" gif

[Tom4784]

Coming for you, sit down.

Hand on hips, wavey finger "don't you come at me" gif

Mature responses and exactly what I'd expect from you both.

[Tom4784]

I don't blame Pelosi for not sending it off to the Senate, it's a kangeroo court when you've got Mitch McConnell who proudly takes pictures of all the bills he's killed out of spite for Democrats and has openly admitted that he'll collude with Trump to ensure an acquital at the Senate. The republicans are corruipt as **** and the right wing are morally bankrupt for supporting the whole ****show and not deciding on the facts that tell a very clear truth. Trump used the threat of withholding aid money to get another country to investigate a political rival, it's ****ing treasonous.

Pelosi
is not sending it to the Senate?

Jeff Van Drew was a Democrat
has now Joined the Republicans

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/12/19/22/22472036-7811741-image-a-3_1576793714881.jpg
Yesterday
Jeff meeting the President.

[Van Drew was one of only two Democrats
to vote against the two articles of impeachment against Trump
in the full House vote Wednesday night]

Trump picking up the Democrats' castoffs and calling it a victory, sad.

[GiRTh]

...that’s interesting actually, Girth...I hadn’t realised how an impeachment could boost the poll popularity...why is that, then...?...but ouch at his barely moving as well...It happens every time, people feel sorry for the President or think he's being picked on by the other side. A bump in popularity was expected and it was one of the things Pelosi knew would happen and thus why she was never keen on impeachment.

[Oliver_W]

So the whole thing really was a waste of time and taxpayer money...

[GiRTh]

So the whole thing really was a waste of time and taxpayer money...Its not over so how do you come to that conclusion?

[thesheriff443]

Mature responses and exactly what I'd expect from you both.

Sit back down.

[Tom4784]

Sit back down.

Grow up.

[Twosugars]

I don't blame Pelosi for not sending it off to the Senate, it's a kangeroo court when you've got Mitch McConnell who proudly takes pictures of all the bills he's killed out of spite for Democrats and has openly admitted that he'll collude with Trump to ensure an acquital at the Senate. The republicans are corruipt as **** and the right wing are morally bankrupt for supporting the whole ****show and not deciding on the facts that tell a very clear truth. Trump used the threat of withholding aid money to get another country to investigate a political rival, it's ****ing treasonous.



Trump picking up the Democrats' castoffs and calling it a victory, sad.

Well said.

Shame what happened to Republicans. They used to be a great party.
Now reduced to being trump's bitch

[Oliver_W]

Its not over so how do you come to that conclusion?

Oh right, what's the next stage then?

[Tom4784]

Oh right, what's the next stage then?

The House passes it on to the Senate to hold a trial but they haven't done that yet as Mitch McConnell and other republicans have stated their intention to ignore proceedings and acquit Trump regardless of the evidence.

The House impeaches, the Senate convicts but the problem is that the Republicans are incapable of impartiality and are instead projecting that onto the other side. The evidence of Trump's crimes are overwhelming, no one who can claim to be reasonable or fair can doubt that Trump abused his power. It's not a partisan issue, it shouldn't be a partisan issue but the republicans are trying to spin it like that since they can't argue with the facts. They aren't denying that Trump did what he did but instead they're making out that the process is unfair despite Trump constantly committing crimes and offences that would have seen normal presidents resign or be removed if they committed such acts.

He needs to face a fair trial for his crimes but he'll never get that since the Republicans will not convict one of their own regardless of their guilt.

[arista]

"If the House does not communicate its
impeachment to the Senate, it hasn't actually
impeached the president. If the articles are not
transmitted,Trump could legitimately say that
he wasn't truly impeach at all."

Noah Feldman
Professor at Harvard University.

Ref : Smerconish CNN HD USA & Worldwide.

[arista]

Oh right, what's the next stage then?



Its now Holidays in USA
so bugger all this year.


They have no plans to hand it to the Senate

Absolute MESS

[Tom4784]

"If the House does not communicate its
impeachment to the Senate, it hasn't actually
impeached the president. If the articles are not
transmitted,Trump could legitimately say that
he wasn't truly impeach at all."

Noah Feldman
Professor at Harvard University.

Ref : Smerconish CNN HD USA & Worldwide.

Given that the republicans are flouting the constitution in their loud intentions to not uphold their constitutional duties, I'd say that's a response that's not taking all the factors into account.

[Tom4784]

Its now Holidays in USA
so bugger all this year.


They have no plans to hand it to the Senate

Absolute MESS

How strange that you have nothing to say about Mitch McConnell's blatant attempts to destroy the process through flouting the constitution.

I guess silence can truly be deafening.

[The Slim Reaper]

He has been impeached. Just because a couple of crazy right wingers say he hasn't it doesn't mean that's the truth.

Thread title is incorrect.

[arista]

He has been impeached. Just because a couple of crazy right wingers say he hasn't it doesn't mean that's the truth.

Thread title is incorrect.


No I changed it today
If it goes to the senate
I will change the title


Its not Right Wingers
on CNN HD

[arista]

How strange that you have nothing to say about Mitch McConnell's blatant attempts to destroy the process through flouting the constitution.

I guess silence can truly be deafening.


Bollocks
That Old Turtle has not said enough....................
http://westwoodenabler.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/mcconnell-4-507x381.jpg

[Tom4784]

Bollocks
That Old Turtle has not said enough....................
http://westwoodenabler.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/mcconnell-4-507x381.jpg

He's said enough to break his constitutional duties yet you are quiet and dismissive in regards to that.

[thesheriff443]

Grow up.

Preach

[arista]

Still No Witness
why the hell is this still dragging on?

A waste of money and Time.

[arista]

Oh right, what's the next stage then?

There is NO next stage
they are Dumb at wasting our time

[arista]

Trump impeachment: Acquittal in sight
as Senate votes to reject calls for witnesses

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-impeachment-acquittal-in-sight-as-senate-votes-to-reject-calls-for-witnesses-11923162

SkyNews is owned by Comcast /NBC now
a USA left wing group.

[Twosugars]

That wasn't a proper trial. Corruption and cover up by the Republican swamp.

[arista]

That wasn't a proper trial. Corruption and cover up by the Republican swamp.


Well the Democrats new this was going to happen
in the Senate.

Stop wasting Money and Time
on a something they Can Not Win.

[Liam-]

And now the American people can see which side really cares about democracy and the constitution they took and oat to defend and uphold and it certainly isn’t the GOP

[Twosugars]

Well the Democrats new this was going to happen
in the Senate.

Stop wasting Money and Time
on a something they Can Not Win.

Wrong.
They exposed the corruption of the Republican swamp.

[arista]

Wrong.
They exposed the corruption of the Republican swamp.


Exposed?
We all knew before this Shiff/Sham


Nothing has changed

[Twosugars]

Exposed?
We all knew before this Shiff/Sham


Nothing has changed

What did we know? Tell me.

[GiRTh]

That wasn't a proper trial. Corruption and cover up by the Republican swamp.Exactly. Seventy percent of the US population wanted witnesses so those senator who blocked them, can now go back to their constituents and explain why they went against 70% of the population in an election year.. Some, moderate Republicans like Susan Collins of Maine are in tough races in moderate districts so have got one hell of a fight to be re-elected and this certainly wont help them. Collins is already on thin ice cuz she was the deciding vote that propelled Brett Kavanagh to the Supreme court and a few people want her gone for that alone. The Republicans are so living in the moment and dont seem to realize there's gonna be payback sometime down the line.

Let them speak: Most Americans want witnesses in Trump impeachment trial - Reuters/Ipsos poll (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/let-them-speak-most-americans-want-witnesses-in-trump-impeachment-trial-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1ZL33O)

[bots]

Exactly. Seventy percent of the US population wanted witnesses so those senator who blocked them, can now go back to their constituents and explain why they went against 70% of the population in an election year.. Some, moderate Republicans like Susan Collins of Maine are in tough races in moderate districts so have got one hell of a fight to be re-elected and this certainly wont help them. Collins is already on thin ice cuz she was the deciding vote that propelled Brett Kavanagh to the Supreme court and a few people want her gone for that alone. The Republicans are so living in the moment and dont seem to realize there's gonna be payback sometime down the line.

Let them speak: Most Americans want witnesses in Trump impeachment trial - Reuters/Ipsos poll (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-impeachment-poll/let-them-speak-most-americans-want-witnesses-in-trump-impeachment-trial-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN1ZL33O)

I think they don't care what the electorate think because the next election will not be fair. Absolute power corrupts

[arista]

What did we know? Tell me.


He said it all in Public.

[GiRTh]

I think they don't care what the electorate think because the next election will not be fair. Absolute power corruptsI'm not sure what you mean by not fair but I agree they dont care what the electorate think. They're aligning with Donnnie to avoid his anger and negative hit pieces on FOX.

Anyone see Marsha Blackburn tweet smearing a decorate Lieutenant Vindman? Shes got nothing to say on the substance of the case but to attack a witness. It smacks of 'Please Mr President, notice me'. Donnies got them on a tight leash.

Marsha Blackburn’s Vindman vendetta (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/25/marsha-blackburn-alexander-vindman-attacks-104165)

[Tom4784]

A trial where the defendant's party has disallowed witnesses... You couldn't make it up. Anyone that sticks by Trump now supports corruiption, opposes morality and will never be able to take the moral high ground in my presence again.

The GOP are traitors to America at this point.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1223898679913910272/WX3-hm0h?format=jpg&name=900x900

Trump piss take on Saturday Night Live
Now shown in the UK
on SkyComdeyHD 9PM Sundays

[Twosugars]

There might still be room to hear from former national security adviser, John Bolton, in the halls of Congress.

House judiciary chairman, Jerry Nadler, told CNN it is “likely” they will subpoena Bolton.


Manu Raju
✔
@mkraju
House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler tells us that House Dems will “likely” subpoena John Bolton and continue with investigations to follow after today.

“I think it’s likely yes,” he told me of issuing a Bolton subpoena.

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When asked the same question on Sunday, House Intelligence chairman Adam Schiff was more circumspect and would not confirm or deny a plan to subpoena Bolton.

“I don’t want to comment to this point on what our plans may or may not be with respect to John Bolton, but I will say this: whether it’s before -- in testimony before the House – or it’s in his (forthcoming) book or it’s in one form or another, the truth will come out (and) will continue to come out,” Schiff told CBS.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/feb/05/us-politics-iowa-caucuses-senate-trump-impeachment-trial-buttigieg-pelosi-live-latest

Go Dems, that's the spirit!

[GiRTh]

1225145066219503622Genuine or token gesture? Token gesture IMO. They need at least 4 more to vote to convict and there is simply no chance of that happening. Romney may suffer a backslash in Utah, its Trump country.

Romney know theres little chance of a conviction so why? And I dont believie any of the crap about conscience. Look into how Romney made his money, then decide if this man has a conscience. SO is Romney gonna run against Trump. GOP establishment would love it and this token gesture would help.

[GoldHeart]

The orange pig will get in again , come next election :bored: :facepalm:

[MTVN]

Isn't it too late for Romney to run for 2020?

He wouldn't have a hope anyway. Maybe positioning himself for 2024

[Liam-]

Romney sticking his head above the pit as a true patriot

[GiRTh]

Isn't it too late for Romney to run for 2020?

He wouldn't have a hope anyway. Maybe positioning himself for 2024He can enter as late as the convention. I agree he doesnt stand much chance, I'm just speculating as to why he's doing this? He must know this makes it harder for him in Utah and as we speak #RecallRomney is trending. :laugh:

He would have to get at least a dozen high profile senators behind him to run. Probably need a big name like Mitch McConnell too. I just dont see it, so why is he doing this?

[GiRTh]

Susan Collins just voted not guilty. No chance without her. Time to call it, Trump has dodged the impeachment bullet.

[Beso]

The orange pig will get in again , come next election :bored: :facepalm:

Ah. It's his gammon you hate..

Disgusting imo.

[Beso]

MAGA Donald.

Innocent.

[Liam-]

He was never going to be removed, but he’ll forever be impeached and Romney has proven the only partisan part of the ‘trial’ was the GOP’s desire to acquit

[arista]

47 : Guilty

53 : Not Guilty


Trump Acquitted Of Impeachment Charges,

[Tom4784]

The republicans and the right wing as a whole are far too corrupt to do the right thing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

47 : Guilty

53 : Not Guilty


Trump Acquitted Of Impeachment Charges,

:clap1:

A shambles for the failing democratic party

[Twosugars]

Republican swamp is corrupt and spineless. History will not be kind to them.

[arista]

:clap1:

A shambles for the failing democratic party

Bang On Right LT

[Beso]

The republicans and the right wing as a whole are far too corrupt to do the right thing.

Insulting, divisive, bitter..yet ever so predictable...a page turner it was not.:nono:

[Zizu]

How was Trump able to block certain witnesses and specific pieces of evidence.

That doesn’t sound like a fair trial ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[GiRTh]

:clap1:

A shambles for the failing democratic party:thumbs:

[GiRTh]

How was Trump able to block certain witnesses and specific pieces of evidence.

That doesn’t sound like a fair trial ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProHe ignored subpoenas and invoked some mystical 'executive privilege' to stop them from testifying. He ran out the clock, to make sure there was insufficient evidence, basically.

[Beso]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1223898679913910272/WX3-hm0h?format=jpg&name=900x900

Trump piss take on Saturday Night Live
Now shown in the UK
on SkyComdeyHD 9PM Sundays

Are they trying to say he's like Harvey wins tien?

[Twosugars]

https://i.imgur.com/X1G4GTD.jpg

[arista]

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[arista]

Are they trying to say he's like Harvey wins tien?

Something like that

[Mystic Mock]

The orange pig will get in again , come next election :bored: :facepalm:

Well the Democrats are running themselves like a mess tbf.

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[Kazanne]

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:joker::joker: loving some of these,the name calling by some is pretty childish though, it doesn't make people suddenly hate him :laugh:

[Nicky91]

acquitted by other corrupt republicans :idc:

respect for Mitt Romney being the sole republican with common sense :love:

[Nicky91]

with a neutral senate, Trump would've been impeached for sure

but shame you got more morons within the republicans than those with common sense :sad:

[Twosugars]

He is a goldmine of entertainment :laugh:

Wonder what the moron will come up next

[Nicky91]

He is a goldmine of entertainment :laugh:

Wonder what the moron will come up next

the fun, laughter has stopped with me long time ago :idc:

[Twosugars]

the fun, laughter has stopped with me long time ago :idc:

Understand but what can we do :shrug:

[Nicky91]

Understand but what can we do :shrug:

same what the democrats can do here, nothing

we're powerless against that unlimited Trump support, really crazy how so so many people just don't want to see the truth and are voting for trump as president for the entertainment, lols, his immature twitter outbursts :idc:


shame how politics has gone that low in america, the bar has never been this low

[arista]

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with Happy Trump

[GoldHeart]

same what the democrats can do here, nothing

we're powerless against that unlimited Trump support, really crazy how so so many people just don't want to see the truth and are voting for trump as president for the entertainment, lols, his immature twitter outbursts :idc:


shame how politics has gone that low in america, the bar has never been this low

When he showed that newspaper headline and had his fat smug grin I wanted to throw up .

Everything he accused others of being "evil" & "corrupt" Is just him describing himself!!!! :umm2::crazy:

[GiRTh]

Justice Dept. to Seek Shorter Sentence for Roger Stone, Overruling Its Prosecutors (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/us/politics/roger-stone-sentencing.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes)

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Trumps bollox must be huge right now after being aquitted by the senate. Last week he gets rid of a number of impeachments witnesses who testified against him - Even some who were retiring this month - now this. What will he be like when he gets a 2nd term? All the Dems can do is wait for him to make another mistake so they can do what exactly? Impeach him. They've shown that doesnt work. America deserves four more years of Trump with this toothless congress and the clueless Dems. Its actually quite impressive how they're so frightened of Trump.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Girth you did not win again, don't beat yourself up?

[GiRTh]

Girth you did not win again, don't beat yourself up?Huh????:conf: