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The Slim Reaper
20-12-2019, 02:55 PM
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The party of family values.
Tom4784
20-12-2019, 03:02 PM
Trying to find a republican that isn't corrupt is like trying to find a piece of gold in a pile of ****.
Crimson Dynamo
20-12-2019, 03:03 PM
imagine using the rape of a child to make some cheap political jibe
:umm2:
imagine using the rape of a child to make some cheap political jibe
:umm2:
Par for the course from the left, even the bearded idiot did the same during the election campaigning. .
The Slim Reaper
20-12-2019, 03:14 PM
imagine using the rape of a child to make some cheap political jibe
:umm2:
Par for the course from the left, even the bearded idiot did the same during the election campaigning. .
Isn't every other single thread on the forum enough for you two to troll?
imagine using the rape of a child to make some cheap political jibe
:umm2:
Par for the course from the left, even the bearded idiot did the same during the election campaigning. .
This is all you took from the OP? Frightening!
Isn't every other single thread on the forum enough for you two to troll?
If that's how you see it then I shall leave you to chat away with the other posters in here.:wavey:
Twosugars
20-12-2019, 03:22 PM
imagine using the rape of a child to make some cheap political jibe
:umm2:
Par for the course from the left, even the bearded idiot did the same during the election campaigning. .
A new low.
I hope the mods react
This is all you took from the OP? Frightening!
The conviction looks dodgy at best.:shrug:
Scare tactics in the headline..but when you delve a little deeper it's not all black and white as it first seemed after the shock of the headline wears off.
Kazanne
20-12-2019, 03:25 PM
If that's how you see it then I shall leave you to chat away with the other posters in here.:wavey:
You're not allowed to have a different opinion Parmy,I thought you knew that.:hehe:
Tom4784
20-12-2019, 03:28 PM
I imagine if this was a democrat governer, LT's, Parm's and Kazanne's reactions would be entirely different which makes LT's claims of the left politcising the issue entirely hypocritical.
A child rapist was freed and justice wasn't served for his victim and your first instinct is to defend the governer by blaming the left? Utterly gross.
Twosugars
20-12-2019, 03:28 PM
You're not allowed to have a different opinion Parmy,I thought you knew that.:hehe:
On child rapists going free? :shocked:
What is a different opinion rather than condemn it? Tell me Kazanne
He was pardoned because of the weak conviction..not because the bloke is a republican. .get a grip of yourselves fgs
The Slim Reaper
20-12-2019, 03:37 PM
He was pardoned because of the weak conviction..not because the bloke is a republican. .get a grip of yourselves fgs
It wasn't a weak conviction, and none of the evidence suggests it was. It's not even the only child rapist that he pardoned.
The Slim Reaper
20-12-2019, 03:40 PM
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Look, I am not saying we should lock up anyone who is accused of molesting a minor. Of course there needs to be sufficient evidence. BUT, I dread to think of the repercussions for this 9 year old kid when they find out justice was never served and that the person who took advantage of them could still be walking among them.
This has nothing to do with the Left or the Right. But it has everything to do with what is wrong and right. You could say there was weak evidence, but to me that tells me that there was definitely some evidence and it was either ignored or jeopardized in some way to protect the criminal.
Kizzy
20-12-2019, 06:15 PM
Isn't every other single thread on the forum enough for you two to troll?
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Merry Christmas to you too.x
Asked by Mr Meiners about the child rapist he pardoned, Mr Bevin responded, "Which one?"
Mr Meiners had referred to Schoettle, who was sentenced to 23 years in prison in 2018 after being convicted on charges of rape, incest, sodomy and other sexual offenses.
The former governor commuted Schoettle's sentence on 9 December - his final day in office - allowing him to walk free after 19 months behind bars.
Schoettle will also be able to avoid registering as a sex offender, local media report.
...’which one..’..?....the people who are given so much power to help protect their children...are protecting those who abuse them..?...
...where would you even start with a broken system like that...:sad:..
i tell you what the problem is with this thread title and its the same in many threads. The emphasis is placed on political affiliation rather than the deed itself. People are individuals and responsible for their own behaviour.
i tell you what the problem is with this thread title and its the same in many threads. The emphasis is placed on political affiliation rather than the deed itself. People are individuals and responsible for their own behaviour.
....I don’t understand what you mean, Bots...the case..(..and many other cases...)...had already gone through the justice system and he was convicted and sentenced to a long term prison sentence...?...the governor issued a pardon and the child’s rapist was set free...
....I don’t understand what you mean, Bots...the case..(..and many other cases...)...had already gone through the justice system and he was convicted and sentenced to a long term prison sentence...?...the governor issued a pardon and the child’s rapist was set free...
and the person who pardoned him is an individual, responsible for his own deeds and actions. We may as well have said human pardoned a man convicted of ... people are attaching labels for their own political agenda
It wasn't a weak conviction, and none of the evidence suggests it was. It's not even the only child rapist that he pardoned.
Wasn't the evidence the kids word against his:shrug:
and the person who pardoned him is an individual, responsible for his own deeds and actions. We may as well have said human pardoned a man convicted of ... people are attaching labels for their own political agenda
...but it has to have been a specific ‘human’...I couldn’t pardon a convicted child rapist and neither could you, Bots...his position is very specific and relevant to the story and what he’s done and what others in the system are finding unfathomable...
Wasn't the evidence the kids word against his:shrug:
...I have no words...
SherzyK
21-12-2019, 01:18 PM
You're not allowed to have a different opinion Parmy,I thought you knew that.:hehe:
If this was a horse getting killed you wouldn’t be acting like this
The Slim Reaper
21-12-2019, 01:43 PM
i tell you what the problem is with this thread title and its the same in many threads. The emphasis is placed on political affiliation rather than the deed itself. People are individuals and responsible for their own behaviour.
It's an important part of the story because the GOP labels itself as the party of family values. That isn't a title that has been given to them, it's the one they took.
There is no additional emphasis in the title, and as Ammi pointed out, this case was resolved right up until the point that the politician decided to interject himself.
You really are searching for an issue that doesn't exist outside the minds of 4 people. I posted the story, and the links with additional information about the now former governor. Really strange issue you've decided to pick out.
As an example, would this thread be better off labelled as "trump retweets group"?
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9713754&highlight=muslim#post9713754
...I have no words...
Apart from those ones you just posted to belittle someone again.....it's what it says in the article...near the endm
...some of this thread is quite sickening...someone was convicted for 23 yrs for raping a child...he was convicted by that state’s justice system...and a governor has decided ...(against all medical expertise..)...that a human examination will be the deciding factor in pardoning this rapist ...when it’s already been decreed that it’s not an accurate or reliable examination for the courts...
...a family has to watch this man go free because of a decision by one governor, it’s very relevant that he’s a governor because he’s one of the few people with the power to have made that decision...
Apart from those ones you just posted to belittle someone again.....it's what it says in the article...near the endm
...my words are not belittling when I have no words...
...a child can be doubted that she has been raped when the courts have decided that a man is guilty, a sentence has been given of 23yrs for the crime...those are the ‘words’ of the justice system...?...
...and yet...
...in some cases when it hasn’t yet gone through the justice system, when words could actually harm a prosecution or harm the protection of a child victim...in cases when Tommy Robinson has decided on his own ‘law’....the thought of a ‘child lying’ has never been a factor of discussion on this forum...
You're not allowed to have a different opinion Parmy,I thought you knew that.:hehe:
Holy fok Kazannne .Are you for real?
I bet Denise is dead proud she has you on her side .
I have seen you over the years mention you are a friend of Denise and also a parent...and now you want to politise James murder over an American politican that pardonds paedophiles .You choose to have a different opinion....When it come to child rapists...there should only be one opinion.:bawling::bawling::bawling:
...some of this thread is quite sickening...someone was convicted for 23 yrs for raping a child...he was convicted by that state’s justice system...and a governor has decided ...(against all medical expertise..)...that a human examination will be the deciding factor in pardoning this rapist ...when it’s already been decreed that it’s not an accurate or reliable examination for the courts...
...a family has to watch this man go free because of a decision by one governor, it’s very relevant that he’s a governor because he’s one of the few people with the power to have made that decision...
Ammi I was gang raped at 12 in South Africa because I am white.This thread is sickening for me because it only matters to some of the colour of the rapist and the child.
Still cant get over in 2019 the nonce is allways the victim:shrug::shrug:
Twosugars
21-12-2019, 09:52 PM
Even his own previously loyal Republican peers have expressed bewilderment. The top Republican in the state senate has called for an investigation of Bevin’s “extreme pardons and commutations”.
Mitch McConnell, the US senator from Kentucky better known as the Republican trying to stymie Trump’s impeachment trial in Congress, has denounced the release of “heinous criminals” in his home state as “inappropriate”.
As intrepid local journalists began to dig into the mountain of pardoned cases, other apparent horrors emerged.
They included further sexual offenders. Dayton Jones, who Bevin set free after three years of a 15-year sentence, had pleaded guilty to raping a boy aged 15 whose bowel he ruptured with a sex toy. Charles Phelps had his name removed from the sex offender registry by Bevin having pleaded guilty in 2013 to child abuse images offences and sexual conduct with minors.
The gruesome details of the violent crimes committed by some of those selected for commutation did not stop there. Delmar Partin was convicted of beheading a female co-worker and hiding her mutilated body in a barrel; Irvin Edge had hired a hitman to murder his business partner at home in front of his family; Blake Walker had killed his own parents.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/21/kentucky-governor-pardons-matt-bevin
Twosugars
21-12-2019, 09:52 PM
Beggars belief
smudgie
21-12-2019, 10:10 PM
Absolute mockery of any justice system.
A ruddy disgrace that the governors are allowed to pardon guilty people at all.:fist:
Beggars belief
What beggars belief is that some will overlook child rape when it suits them politically..:bawling:
Twosugars
21-12-2019, 10:47 PM
What beggars belief is that some will overlook child rape when it suits them politically..:bawling:
Well said!
Tom4784
21-12-2019, 11:04 PM
What beggars belief is that some will overlook child rape when it suits them politically..:bawling:
It's a core issue with the right, it's so godamn hard for them to hold each other accountable because tribalism is rampant in the right wing.
This should be sickening regardless of political leaning but because a republican is involved, he'll automatically have his defenders no matter what he does. The guy has pardoned or lessened sentences for multiple child abusers, he should be despised by all sides.
Mystic Mock
21-12-2019, 11:34 PM
Even his own previously loyal Republican peers have expressed bewilderment. The top Republican in the state senate has called for an investigation of Bevin’s “extreme pardons and commutations”.
Mitch McConnell, the US senator from Kentucky better known as the Republican trying to stymie Trump’s impeachment trial in Congress, has denounced the release of “heinous criminals” in his home state as “inappropriate”.
As intrepid local journalists began to dig into the mountain of pardoned cases, other apparent horrors emerged.
They included further sexual offenders. Dayton Jones, who Bevin set free after three years of a 15-year sentence, had pleaded guilty to raping a boy aged 15 whose bowel he ruptured with a sex toy. Charles Phelps had his name removed from the sex offender registry by Bevin having pleaded guilty in 2013 to child abuse images offences and sexual conduct with minors.
The gruesome details of the violent crimes committed by some of those selected for commutation did not stop there. Delmar Partin was convicted of beheading a female co-worker and hiding her mutilated body in a barrel; Irvin Edge had hired a hitman to murder his business partner at home in front of his family; Blake Walker had killed his own parents.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/21/kentucky-governor-pardons-matt-bevin
This guy is clearly corrupt.
He should be arrested himself imo.
And I would say the same if it was a Democrat Governor pardoning extreme criminals that should never see the light of day again.
SherzyK
21-12-2019, 11:39 PM
Funny how some people are so quick to defend this man, but if he was a Muslim then they’d want him locked up by any means
AnnieK
22-12-2019, 01:49 AM
Holy fok Kazannne .Are you for real?
I bet Denise is dead proud she has you on her side .
I have seen you over the years mention you are a friend of Denise and also a parent...and now you want to politise James murder over an American politican that pardonds paedophiles .You choose to have a different opinion....When it come to child rapists...there should only be one opinion.:bawling::bawling::bawling:
Ouch, I feel that is a little too personal Lime. Kaz does have close ties to the Bulger case and that's hitting a little too close to home bringing her personal history in to a debate.
Having said that, I struggle to compute any parent being able to condone a child rapist being acquitted when the child is living and of age to testify. Had I been the parent, I would certainly now be on trial for a double homicide.
A hymen being intact means nothing where child abuse us concerned and it's a worry that the people in this thread saying it is being politicised seem to be the people on the side.of the accused. He has politics on his side ffs..... and has been pardoned for dubious at best reasons.
The child in the middle of it is the person who my heart goes out to.....
On a side note....Lime, your personal experiences are horrific and my love comes to you :love:
Ouch, I feel that is a little too personal Lime. Kaz does have close ties to the Bulger case and that's hitting a little too close to home bringing her personal history in to a debate.
Having said that, I struggle to compute any parent being able to condone a child rapist being acquitted when the child is living and of age to testify. Had I been the parent, I would certainly now be on trial for a double homicide.
A hymen being intact means nothing where child abuse us concerned and it's a worry that the people in this thread saying it is being politicised seem to be the people on the side.of the accused. He has politics on his side ffs..... and has been pardoned for dubious at best reasons.
The child in the middle of it is the person who my heart goes out to.....
On a side note....Lime, your personal experiences are horrific and my love comes to you :love:
PM'd you Annie:love::love:
Thank you all for taking me pointing out the article pointing out how flimsy the conviction was and me pointing out those points as me siding with the paedophile..
Tibb really does make me proud.
Kizzy
22-12-2019, 07:24 AM
So the way to know if a child has been violated is to violate them again?!!....
How and why was this allowed? If that was my daughter there would be no way in hell anyone would be touching her again! :(
Just what is the point of a justice system if one power mad deviant can override judgements?
Tom4784
22-12-2019, 03:44 PM
The simple fact is that the people who are defending this governor's repeated actions would not do so if he was a democrat but the rest of us still would because he's overturning rulings on convicted child predators.
Law & Order shouldn't be a partisan issue, what this governor has done is beyond wrong and when you've got other republicans and even ****ing Moscow Mitch calling him out, you know it's indefensible.
The simple fact is that the people who are defending this governor's repeated actions would not do so if he was a democrat but the rest of us still would because he's overturning rulings on convicted child predators.
Law & Order shouldn't be a partisan issue, what this governor has done is beyond wrong and when you've got other republicans and even ****ing Moscow Mitch calling him out, you know it's indefensible.
Trust me..when you are raped when you are are a child ....their politics dont matter
Crimson Dynamo
22-12-2019, 06:39 PM
The simple fact is that the people who are defending this governor's repeated actions would not do so if he was a democrat but the rest of us still would because he's overturning rulings on convicted child predators.
Law & Order shouldn't be a partisan issue, what this governor has done is beyond wrong and when you've got other republicans and even ****ing Moscow Mitch calling him out, you know it's indefensible.
"The simple fact is that the people who are defending this governor's repeated actions would not do so if he was a democrat "
That isnt a fact its just your opinion
"but the rest of us still would because he's overturning rulings on convicted child predators."
the rest of who and why are you speaking on their behalf?
SherzyK
22-12-2019, 06:50 PM
"The simple fact is that the people who are defending this governor's repeated actions would not do so if he was a democrat "
That isnt a fact its just your opinion
"but the rest of us still would because he's overturning rulings on convicted child predators."
the rest of who and why are you speaking on their behalf?
So you agree that what the governor did was wrong? Politics aside.
Kazanne
22-12-2019, 06:53 PM
Holy fok Kazannne .Are you for real?
I bet Denise is dead proud she has you on her side .
I have seen you over the years mention you are a friend of Denise and also a parent...and now you want to politise James murder over an American politican that pardonds paedophiles .You choose to have a different opinion....When it come to child rapists...there should only be one opinion.:bawling::bawling::bawling:
WTF are you on about,I have just seen this ,how dare you,I was not commenting on the case at all,just the fact that Parmy was pulled up for having a different opinion,it didn't mean I agreed with it FFS.whats the matter with people,,now go away and leave me alone,get your facts right.Oh and btw,its Ralph the family know more,not Denise but thats none of your business.
Kazanne
22-12-2019, 07:07 PM
Ouch, I feel that is a little too personal Lime. Kaz does have close ties to the Bulger case and that's hitting a little too close to home bringing her personal history in to a debate.
Having said that, I struggle to compute any parent being able to condone a child rapist being acquitted when the child is living and of age to testify. Had I been the parent, I would certainly now be on trial for a double homicide.
A hymen being intact means nothing where child abuse us concerned and it's a worry that the people in this thread saying it is being politicised seem to be the people on the side.of the accused. He has politics on his side ffs..... and has been pardoned for dubious at best reasons.
The child in the middle of it is the person who my heart goes out to.....
On a side note....Lime, your personal experiences are horrific and my love comes to you :love:
Thankyou Annie,i was shocked at that post and it did upset me a bit as I was NOT commenting on the case at all,I was just defending Parmy as he always gets stick on here,in no way was I condoning what happened infact I haven't even gone through the link yet,people just jump on things sometimes and totally get the wrong impression,absolutely no need to bring the James case into it.but thanks anyway.
Twosugars
22-12-2019, 07:22 PM
That's what happens Kazanne if you jump in stupidly defending something you have no idea about.
Serves you right
:wavey:
Kazanne
22-12-2019, 07:25 PM
two Sugars I can see you have posted well if its for me your wasting your time as I cant see your posts,so save yourself the time
Twosugars
22-12-2019, 07:29 PM
Yes it is for you.
If you had read what I posted immediately after you stupid post defending someone defending releasing the pedo you might have realized how stupid your original post was.
As it is you didnt and here we are :wavey:
Serves you right.
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