Manchester :Worst Serial Rapist of men handed multiple life sentences

[arista]

[The most prolific rapist in British legal history has been
given multiple life sentences after a 10-year campaign
of sexual violence involving 190 victims.
Reynhard Sinaga, 36, has been found guilty of rape
and sexual assaults against 48 men.
But police believe Sinaga, originally from Indonesia,
may have assaulted many more - potentially
upwards of 190, 79 of whom they have not yet been able to identify.]

[Sinaga was already handed two life sentences,
after the first three trials.
The same sentence - with a minimum term
of 30 years - has been handed down on Monday.]


https://news.sky.com/story/reynhard-sinaga-serial-rapist-handed-multiple-life-sentences-for-violent-campaign-11902070


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The Flat
the Evil rapist used.

[The Slim Reaper]

Can you post the full story please dude?

[arista]

Can you post the full story please dude?


[An "evil serial sexual predator" convicted of 159 sex offences, including 136 rapes, will "never be safe to be released", a judge has said.

Reynhard Sinaga was found guilty of luring 48 men from outside Manchester clubs to his flat, where he drugged and assaulted them - filming the attacks.

Police say they have evidence Sinaga, 36, who is being named for the first time, targeted at least 190 victims.

The judge ruled his life sentence must include a minimum of 30 years in jail.

Reporting restrictions were also lifted at a sentencing hearing at Manchester Crown Court on Monday, meaning Sinaga could be identified for the first time.

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said Sinaga was "the most prolific rapist in British legal history".

The post-graduate student was already serving life, with a minimum term of 20 years, for the offences he was convicted of in two earlier trials, which took place in summer 2018 and last spring.

Across four separate trials, the Indonesian national was found guilty of 136 counts of rape, eight counts of attempted rape, 14 counts of sexual assault, and one count of assault by penetration, against a total of 48 victims.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50987823

[Niamh.]

Scary. Glad he got such a strong sentence.

[Babayaro.]

This is horrific.

Honestly, just give him the death penalty and be done with it.

[Dogeatdog]

That is shocking. I feel so sorry for all those innocent people whose lives have been pretty much ruined. :(

[Denver]

That is shocking. I feel so sorry for all those innocent people whose lives have been pretty much ruined. :(

From what I read a large proportion didnt know they had been raped and only found out when the police contacted them

There are also some that still may not know

[Dogeatdog]

From what I read a large proportion didnt know they had been raped and only found out when the police contacted them

I know it’s so sad :( I couldn’t imagine what that must’ve been like receiving a phone call like that as well as the person(s) who had to break the news to them.

There is some truly horrific people in this world.

[Crimson Dynamo]

10 years he has been doing it, how the fleck did he get away with that?

[Crimson Dynamo]

and how many more are doing this?

[Denver]

10 years he has been doing it, how the fleck did he get away with that?

Because he drugged the boys so they wouldnt know, only got found out when one woke up from being drugged

[arista]

10 years he has been doing it, how the fleck did he get away with that?

University awarded the Git

[Wizard.]

It’s so horrific especially as this was close to home :(

[Cherie]

From what I read a large proportion didnt know they had been raped and only found out when the police contacted them

There are also some that still may not know

That seems a bit suspect tbh, I think it’s more likely they didn’t report it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because he drugged the boys so they wouldnt know, only got found out when one woke up from being drugged

if he had been fck_ing their aholes all night did they not feel anything ?

[Babayaro.]

From what I read a large proportion didnt know they had been raped and only found out when the police contacted them

There are also some that still may not know

The police must feel awful as well having to break that news. In a way they might feel that they have ruined the victims' lives (obviously not true) as without knowing what happened to them, they could have carried on living happily.

It's such a horrible situation all round.

[Babayaro.]

if he had been fck_ing their aholes all night did they not feel anything ?

I read in one article that although unconscious, some of the victims were seen/heard in the video showing pain/discomfort or whatever and vomiting, but because they remained unconscious they could not do anything.

[Crimson Dynamo]

lets hope he does not get a taste of his own medicine in jail...

[Denver]

lets hope he does not get a taste of his own medicine in jail...

I guessing he will be on the wing where all the other sick rapists are

[Tom4784]

10 years he has been doing it, how the fleck did he get away with that?

Male rape is largely an unreported crime, a lot of men don't want to admit what has happened to them since society tends to make light of male sexual assault victims and a culture of toxic masculinity between men often leads to victims remaining silent. They don't want to admit they're a victim and that they could be victimised in such a way, especially if they are straight because that's a whole lot of other baggage they've got to deal with as well.

A lot of his victims will be suffering in silence and we can only hope that this news brings them some solace and that they can find a way to process and eventually heal from what's been done to them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

190 victims

[Marsh.]

He more than likely performed oral on most of them as the charges only count one charge of penetration.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He more than likely performed oral on most of them as the charges only count one charge of penetration.

if they were out cold they would not get an erection?

[Niamh.]

Male rape is largely an unreported crime, a lot of men don't want to admit what has happened to them since society tends to make light of male sexual assault victims and a culture of toxic masculinity between men often leads to victims remaining silent. They don't want to admit they're a victim and that they could be victimised in such a way, especially if they are straight because that's a whole lot of other baggage they've got to deal with as well.

A lot of his victims will be suffering in silence and we can only hope that this news brings them some solace and that they can find a way to process and eventually heal from what's been done to them.

Not to mention the actual ordeal of reporting it, having to relive it, being put on trial yourself and the low conviction rate of such crimes (though to be fair I think that seems to be more if you're a woman)

[Ammi]

...’ Because of the nature of the drug, the majority of victims had memory loss and had no idea that they'd been raped.’...

[Tom4784]

Not to mention the actual ordeal of reporting it, having to relive it, being put on trial yourself and the low conviction rate of such crimes (though to be fair I think that seems to be more if you're a woman)

Yeah, I've always said the way rape trials are done are ultimately flawed beyond belief since the defense and the system in general often resorts to victim blaming. Victims should never feel like they are on trial but that's often the case.

I remember a few years back, I tried finding out stats about conviction rates or even prosecution rates for male rape and I couldn't find anything. It's such a rare crime to be reported that I don't think they tracked the stats of it. I've always feared that it's far more common then people truly realise.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Am i reading this right, are all the victims also gay or is it saying some were straight or they dont know?

[AnnieK]

Am i reading this right, are all the victims also gay or is it saying some were straight or they dont know?

The victims were whoever he could.pick up and get back to his flat....he didn't discriminate on sexuality....anyone was fair game.

Sick bastard

[Marsh.]

Am i reading this right, are all the victims also gay or is it saying some were straight or they dont know?

He added that he thought Sinaga took "a particular pleasure in preying on heterosexual men".

.

[Marsh.]

if they were out cold they would not get an erection?

I'm not an expert on raping men so I can't really tell you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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that would explain, as dezzy stated, why most thought "i aint going to the police"

[Niamh.]

Am i reading this right, are all the victims also gay or is it saying some were straight or they dont know?

Does that even matter?

[Marsh.]

that would explain, as dezzy stated, why most thought "i aint going to the police"

Yep. And if very young the embarrassment and shame of their mates finding out they were molested by a gay man. As though it's their own fault.

[Tom4784]

Pretty sure it was whoever he could spike, it wouldn't surprise me if most of his victims were straight though, even if they had the misfortune of remembering what happened to them, they wouldn't likely tell anyone for fear of what people could think of them. After all, we're all familiar with the myths that get thrown at women, I think straight men would be less likely to come forward if they thought other people would think that they wanted it but regretted it afterwards, for example.

[Ammi]

..’ He would keep men’s belongings as “trophies” and search for them on Facebook, and once texted a friend about a victim: “He was straight in 2014. 2015 is his breakthrough to the gay world hahaha.”..

[Twosugars]

Judging by his lack of remorse and flat emotional affect he's most likely a sociopath.

Don't think such people can change. Best locked up for good.

[Amy Jade]

That's so scary. What an evil scum bag

[Beso]

You wouldn't want to be his cell mate...m21 better mind ha self.:nono:

[arista]

He even raped straight lads

[Ammi]

He even raped straight lads

...what do you mean ‘even’, Arista...a rape is a rape...sexuality doesn’t make it any less of a rape...

[Niamh.]

...what do you mean ‘even’, Arista...a rape is a rape...sexuality doesn’t make it any less of a rape...Exactly, like it's less of a violation if the person is gay

[Twosugars]

He even raped straight lads

What the gay ones were asking for it? :facepalm:

Think before you post!

[Denver]

It's being reported that the person who reported him was an 18 year old boy who woke up naked and with the rapist on type of him which led to him smacking the rapist so hard he was left with a bleed on the brain.

The rapist then got the boy arrested with lies but the boy secretly had his iPhone in his pocket which revealed all the abuse then the police found the second phone after searching the flat

[Niamh.]

What the gay ones were asking for it? :facepalm:

Think before you post!Welcome to women's world

[michael21]

Scary. Glad he got such a strong sentence.

Yes he might get some of his own meds in prison

[Babayaro.]

This story has really got under my skin.

Idk how to word this, but to the female members on here, how does it make you feel when you read stories about women being raped? which is too much of a common thing nowadays. Obviously you're going to feel all kinds of anger/disgust, etc but until now, I've never felt this strongly about a story involving rape, which is probably because I have never been able to put myself into the victim's shoes (female). I'm probably rambling on but this whole thing is just so scary :/

[Jessica.]

This is absolutely horrific, so many lives of innocent people have been destroyed. I can't fathom it.

[Twosugars]

Welcome to women's world

:hug:

[michael21]

He even raped straight lads

Raped is raped no matter if it a man woman its wrong

[Black Dagger]

We have had rumours of a canal "pusher" for years around the Manchester area. Predominantly homosexual males found over the years but there has been less of a story on that in recent times.

Does make me wonder if he had anything to do with it. He's clearly capable of most things.

[Niamh.]

This story has really got under my skin.

Idk how to word this, but to the female members on here, how does it make you feel when you read stories about women being raped? which is too much of a common thing nowadays. Obviously you're going to feel all kinds of anger/disgust, etc but until now, I've never felt this strongly about a story involving rape, which is probably because I have never been able to put myself into the victim's shoes (female). I'm probably rambling on but this whole thing is just so scary :/I will tell you how it makes me feel reading men getting raped (and this is in no way trying to take the focus off or making this one feel less important because it isn't) but it makes me feel like women are always believed less or made to feel like they invited it more, even in this one someone enquired if the victims were gay, like if they were it would be less of a rape. . .that's what women feel like

[Babayaro.]

I will tell you how it makes me feel reading men getting raped (and this is in no way trying to take the focus off or making this one feel less important because it isn't) but it makes me feel like women are always believed less or made to feel like they invited it more, even in this one someone enquired if the victims were gay, like if they were it would be less of a rape. . .that's what women feel like

Yeah I've took that from this whole thing too. And I did pick up on the implications of that post, also, which wasn't nice.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Jessica.]

He looks so friendly in that Mirror picture, not suspicious at all. Terrifying!

[Ammi]

This story has really got under my skin.

Idk how to word this, but to the female members on here, how does it make you feel when you read stories about women being raped? which is too much of a common thing nowadays. Obviously you're going to feel all kinds of anger/disgust, etc but until now, I've never felt this strongly about a story involving rape, which is probably because I have never been able to put myself into the victim's shoes (female). I'm probably rambling on but this whole thing is just so scary :/

...obviously each story has its differences, so it’s impossible to completely generalise... but it can often make me feel quite despaired, quite deflated...and very, very sad that the judgement on females in things like rape is still not ‘equal’ and nowhere near...I think the sentencing for instance on Reynhard Sinaga is justice being served for the severity of his crimes...his actions have shown his danger to society and he should never be released from prison...but I can’t help but think of the contrast of the sentencing for John Worboys...I know that his parole wasn’t granted a year or so ago...but the original sentencing wasn’t really comparable and the parole board’s initial decision to free him after serving so little time, had to be challenged by the victims...?...that’s something that I find very difficult, as if a female is of ‘lesser value’...I feel that in many rape cases of women being raped, it’s not just the rape that’s on trial...it’s the actions of the woman, the actions of the victim...?...and even in this thread, the expression ‘even straight men’ was used...was that meant to infer that behaviour and actions of non straight men would be somehow open to discussion or scrutiny...?...I guess the differences...(...again a generalisation because I’m rushing...)...are questions that are often asked in male on female rape cases...why did they go back to his apartment/what were they wearing/had they been drinking etc...this is scrutiny given from society, not questions asked in court...

...Babsy, I really thoroughly recommend that you watch the story/case ‘Unbelievable’ on Netflix atm...it really shows how a female victim can be ‘expected to behave in specific and certain ways’ after a rape...and if she doesn’t...?...then everything she is comes into question by the media and sections of society...rape trials..?...are still sadly something which must feel like a second rape...

[bots]

any violation of another human being, whatever it's form is just wrong

[Kizzy]

How did he only get attacked after 190 rapes?... if you were straight and you came round in a guys house feeling sore wouldn't you lash out? :/
Not victim blaming at all just think he was lucky he wasn't killed years ago for this by a victim.

[Marsh.]

He probs threw them in taxis completely trashed and they woke up at home with a hazy memory of the night.

[Babayaro.]

How did he only get attacked after 190 rapes?... if you were straight and you came round in a guys house feeling sore wouldn't you lash out? :/
Not victim blaming at all just think he was lucky he wasn't killed years ago for this by a victim.

I'm not sure what being straight has got to do with it? Like that somehow makes you capable of fighting someone, etc. I imagine that many of them would have woke up in a state of confusion or panic, and probably wanted to get out of there as soon as possible.

[Marsh.]

This story has really got under my skin.

Idk how to word this, but to the female members on here, how does it make you feel when you read stories about women being raped? which is too much of a common thing nowadays. Obviously you're going to feel all kinds of anger/disgust, etc but until now, I've never felt this strongly about a story involving rape, which is probably because I have never been able to put myself into the victim's shoes (female). I'm probably rambling on but this whole thing is just so scary :/

That's natural. Different news story speak to us all in different ways, moreso if we personally relate to a story in different ways. If it's concerning your demographic etc.

[Babayaro.]

...obviously each story has its differences, so it’s impossible to completely generalise... but it can often make me feel quite despaired, quite deflated...and very, very sad that the judgement on females in things like rape is still not ‘equal’ and nowhere near...I think the sentencing for instance on Reynhard Sinaga is justice being served for the severity of his crimes...his actions have shown his danger to society and he should never be released from prison...but I can’t help but think of the contrast of the sentencing for John Worboys...I know that his parole wasn’t granted a year or so ago...but the original sentencing wasn’t really comparable and the parole board’s initial decision to free him after serving so little time, had to be challenged by the victims...?...that’s something that I find very difficult, as if a female is of ‘lesser value’...I feel that in many rape cases of women being raped, it’s not just the rape that’s on trial...it’s the actions of the woman, the actions of the victim...?...and even in this thread, the expression ‘even straight men’ was used...was that meant to infer that behaviour and actions of non straight men would be somehow open to discussion or scrutiny...?...I guess the differences...(...again a generalisation because I’m rushing...)...are questions that are often asked in male on female rape cases...why did they go back to his apartment/what were they wearing/had they been drinking etc...this is scrutiny given from society, not questions asked in court...

...Babsy, I really thoroughly recommend that you watch the story/case ‘Unbelievable’ on Netflix atm...it really shows how a female victim can be ‘expected to behave in specific and certain ways’ after a rape...and if she doesn’t...?...then everything she is comes into question by the media and sections of society...rape trials..?...are still sadly something which must feel like a second rape...

Thanks Ammi


I have added that show to my list :thumbs:

[Niamh.]

Thanks Ammi


I have added that show to my list :thumbs:

Yeah, I second Ammis recommendation, I started it last night and watched 5 episodes in a row :laugh:

[Livia]

Cut his cock off and send him back to Indonesia to live out his sentence. I understand that Indonesian jails aren't so free with the wifi password as they are in British jails.

[Zizu]

Sorry but after learning what he’s done he should do put down .


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[Kizzy]

I'm not sure what being straight has got to do with it? Like that somehow makes you capable of fighting someone, etc. I imagine that many of them would have woke up in a state of confusion or panic, and probably wanted to get out of there as soon as possible.

Well of course, sorry it does read back like the other guys weren't victims too.
Of course any person would feel violated, only the guy who had not been drugged attacked though. After the confusion and panic could come anger?

The David Platt soap story line has everyone thinking he had tried to have him killed for what he did. This was in my mind reading about this case.

[Vanessa]

I was reading about this on twitter. There could be up to 190 victims in a period of about ten years.
Put him in jail and throw away the key. These kind of people never change, they get off on hurting people.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I was reading about this on twitter. There could be up to 190 victims in a period of about ten years.
Put him in jail and throw away the key. These kind of people never change, they get off on hurting people.

would it not be better to shoot him dead, burn him and save money?

[Marsh.]

would it not be better to shoot him dead, burn him and save money?

Can we not burn him first and shoot him later?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can we not burn him first and shoot him later?

Get all the victims together and have a vote

[Zizu]

would it not be better to shoot him dead, burn him and save money?



Yes.. although why waste a bullet ,,

Simple injection or drowning


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