labour race for leader

[Crimson Dynamo]

LABOUR PARTY

[arista]

Rebbecca is a Female
Corbyn.

She will not win.

[arista]

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[Liam-]

I find it funny that Farage of all people tries to give others lectures on how to avoid an election failure

[Oliver_W]

I'm holding out for an unknown to come swooping in and announce themselves, all but Sir Kier are just awful.

[MTVN]

Love that Emily Thornberry is the only one with no MPs publicly supporting her yet

[Withano]

Rebbecca is a Female
Corbyn.

She will not win.

Imagine saying this on purpose.

[Oliver_W]

Imagine saying this on purpose.

I think the linebreak might have have confused you, he said "she's a female Corbyn", so it's not unreasonable to think she won't win.

[Kizzy]

Literally nothing wrong with Labour's policies... That's what they're all backing isn't it?
All this 'I liked Corbyn the least so vote for me' is pathetic!
The carreerists who were least vocal for Labour against the tories during the election are the ones shouting that loudly now :/

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/11/768x432/skynews-barry-gardiner-labour_4848800.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20191127124347


Barry Gardiner are also running to be Labour Leader,

Lucky 7 , now

[Kizzy]

I like Barry he can more than hold his own.

[michael21]

I want female leader

[MTVN]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/11/768x432/skynews-barry-gardiner-labour_4848800.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20191127124347


Barry Gardiner are also running to be Labour Leader,

Lucky 7 , now

:joker::joker::joker:

[MTVN]

Please let that happen

[bots]

I would never vote labour anyway, but the leadership choices are just dreadful. I bet Chuka is kicking himself furiously as he would have won this standing on his head.

[UserSince2005]

more ****ed up faces than a horse race. proof socialists are genetically inferior?

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN2p6YBWsAAoDKr?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

Woke, intellectually withered Labour has learned nothing from its annihilation

The Labour Party has learned nothing from its electoral annihilation. Some might expect
that, following the Red Wall’s seismic collapse, the Marxislingtonists would finally get the
message that the only thing that can save their movement is a root and branch cultural

revolution. But instead of dealing with its self-loathing metropolitan demons, Labour has

settled for chasing ghosts. Its “do or die” leadership contest has already disintegrated
into a shrugging toss-up between a Corbynite stitch-up and a Frankenstein Blair.




https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/01/09/woke-intellectually-withered-labour-has-learned-nothing-annihilation/

[Samm]

Starmer, Nandy or Phillips are the best choices

I would support Long-Bailey over the tories but she’s definitely not the best candidate in this current climate of right-wing politics.

[GoldHeart]

Either way it makes no difference

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1215538316566810624/_yBpCDTZ?format=png&name=small

[Kazanne]

https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1215538316566810624/_yBpCDTZ?format=png&name=small

So same ****,different day :hehe:

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

So Momentum must secretly be a Tory operation?

[Crimson Dynamo]

its a rather ironic named organisation..

[arista]

[Labour leadership: Keir Starmer slams
free market as divisions grow on left
Party should not ‘trash’ the Corbyn years,
says Labour leadership favourite]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/11/keir-starmer-tacks-to-left-momentum-makes-its-pick-labour-leader


[“We have to be bold enough to
say the free-market model doesn’t
produce, doesn’t work ... the trickle-down
effect didn’t happen,”
Starmer told a meeting
at the Mechanics’ Institute
where the TUC was formed in 1868.

“We have to rebuild an economic model
that reduces inequality
and protects working people.”]



So he thinks he is still Left
and not center left.

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

Lol okay Becky :pat:

That's nkt really something there's a strong yearning for, so to make it part of any campaign is just a waste of time. Focus on actual policies.

Not only that, but the Tories don't currently have a majority in the House of Lords. You'd think the Labour party would want there to be some scrutiny for the Tories...

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

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What does wealth have to do with opportunities? Anyone can work hard in school, go to university, and become whatever they want to be.

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

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All political voices have a right to be heard :shrug: even the ones that sound like a hysterical bag of cats. Her side of Labour is just as valid as the other side. I wonder if GMB chose her to make that side look bad?

[arista]

Clive Lewis MP failed to get the numbers
before 2:30PM
so its 5 racing for leader now.


So its Now
Sir Keir Starmer,
Lisa Nandy
Jess Phillips
Emily Thornberry,
Rebeca Long Bailey.

[arista]

All political voices have a right to be heard :shrug: even the ones that sound like a hysterical bag of cats. Her side of Labour is just as valid as the other side. I wonder if GMB chose her to make that side look bad?


Its Live
no time to talk before
Ian Dale just wants her (Grace) to admit
Labour's Plan was a massive fail.

They did not know she was going to shout over all of them
on the day after the General Election.

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

That vid does show why labour lost... there are those in the labour party that actively work against left wing politics.
They profess to be left but are firmly centrist with values akin to me more closely with the lib dems than Labour who as we know when push comes to shove align closer to the conservatives than Labour.
That's why we lost, that and the media assassination of Corbyn

[Oliver_W]

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That's a really good idea! If he's gonna be keeping the seat warm for lik e a quarter of the year, at least he can give some of the candidates a chance to flex.

[arista]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-51124716/labour-leadership-lisa-nandy-on-student-fees-the-nhs-trident-and-tax

Lisa Nandy

[Kizzy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-51124716/labour-leadership-lisa-nandy-on-student-fees-the-nhs-trident-and-tax

Lisa Nandy

Well fair play to her those were good well thought out and reletively waffle free answers.

[Kizzy]

leadership hopeful*Rebecca Long-Bailey*is leading the race to succeed Jeremy Corbyn, a new poll has suggested. A*Survation*survey found she would win 42 per cent of first preference votes*with*Keir Starmertrailing on 37 percent.

Come on becs! :D

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-news-live-labour-leadership-long-bailey-starmer-corbyn-latest-a9285826.html

[arista]

leadership hopeful*Rebecca Long-Bailey*is leading the race to succeed Jeremy Corbyn, a new poll has suggested. A*Survation*survey found she would win 42 per cent of first preference votes*with*Keir Starmertrailing on 37 percent.

Come on becs! :D

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-news-live-labour-leadership-long-bailey-starmer-corbyn-latest-a9285826.html


Big Error picking her

[Elliot]

Wouldn’t mind Phillips or Rebecca, don’t care much for the rest

[Beso]

It's not a very diverse bunch..

[bots]

whats with these thread title changes?

[arista]

whats with these thread title changes?


Yes is LT Drunk?

[arista]

Deadline of 5PM today

For any that want to vote
by joining the sad Labour Party
Cost £25.

[Beso]

Deadline of 5PM today

For any that want to vote
by joining the sad Labour Party
Cost £25.

No refunds.

[arista]

"Come on becs"


That Poll was a online Labour Lists
Today many more have spent £25 to join
so the next Poll could change

[Kizzy]

"Come on becs"


That Poll was a online Labour Lists
Today many more have spent £25 to join
so the next Poll could change

So what if it does?...

[MTVN]

Interestingly RLB is a committed Catholic

Remember how much stick JRM has gotten over being a Catholic and the Church's view on abortion :think:

[Marsh.]

Why does LT keep editing the OP as though nobody will notice?

[user104658]

Why does LT keep editing the OP as though nobody will notice?

LABOUR PARTY

[Marsh.]

LABOUR PARTY

lABOUR

[Cherie]

Interestingly RLB is a committed Catholic

Remember how much stick JRM has gotten over being a Catholic and the Church's view on abortion :think:

Oh don't you worry its probably a different branch

[Kizzy]

Interestingly RLB is a committed Catholic

Remember how much stick JRM has gotten over being a Catholic and the Church's view on abortion :think:

Personally I couldn't give a toss if she's Catholic. .or mogg.

[Twosugars]

Starmer seems solid

[user104658]

Interestingly RLB is a committed Catholic

Remember how much stick JRM has gotten over being a Catholic and the Church's view on abortion :think:

Err, he's gotten stick over his own explicitly expressed views on abortion. Not just because he happens to be Catholic.

[MTVN]

Err, he's gotten stick over his own explicitly expressed views on abortion. Not just because he happens to be Catholic.

That view on abortion is pretty inherent to Catholicism

[user104658]

That view on abortion is pretty inherent to Catholicism

Not unless they're fundamentalists? The idea that all Catholics are anti-abortion at all is ridiculous, let alone anti-abortion-for-all (many will take an "I wouldn't ever but each to their own" approach).

[MTVN]

Not unless they're fundamentalists? The idea that all Catholics are anti-abortion at all is ridiculous, let alone anti-abortion-for-all (many will take an "I wouldn't ever but each to their own" approach).

Not at all, it's pretty fundamental for a Catholic to subscribe to the teachings of the Catholic Church which is opposed to abortion

[Kizzy]

That would be an ecumenical matter...

[Marsh.]

Not at all, it's pretty fundamental for a Catholic to subscribe to the teachings of the Catholic Church which is opposed to abortion

You don't know many Catholics then.

[Ammi]

...I think that RLB has stated that she’s pro-choice ...I think that even within the Catholic Church ranks and hierarchy’s etc...there are mixed views on abortion...the Catholic Church, is no longer a ‘one size fits all’...people have their life beliefs, while also having their faith beliefs...otherwise I guess that Roman Catholic people would all be considered extremists...

[MTVN]

I mean Mogg is also pro-choice in the sense he doesn't think it's a matter for the government but the Church could hardly be more clear on its view on abortion. She has indicated in the past she would like stricter laws on it as well: https://www.theredroar.com/2020/01/exclusive-long-bailey-backs-stricter-abortion-laws/

[bots]

I agree with MTVN, it's one of the principle factors that separates the catholic religion from that of the CoE.

[Kizzy]

I mean Mogg is also pro-choice in the sense he doesn't think it's a matter for the government but the Church could hardly be more clear on its view on abortion. She has indicated in the past she would like stricter laws on it as well: https://www.theredroar.com/2020/01/exclusive-long-bailey-backs-stricter-abortion-laws/

You do realise this redroar is a politically centrist site, the spin on this is not to show her in a good light for her views?

So what's your angle here, are you highlighting this issue as a positive or a negative?

Let's get back the the crux of the argument, which was her opinion that termination dates should be the same for an abled as disabled foetus.
I am not catholic and i agree with her, otherwise imo we stray into eugenics.

[MTVN]

You do realise this redroar is a politically centrist site, the spin on this is not to show her in a good light for her views?

So what's your angle here, are you highlighting this issue as a positive or a negative?

Let's get back the the crux of the argument, which was her opinion that termination dates should be the same for an abled as disabled foetus.
I am not catholic and i agree with her, otherwise imo we stray into eugenics.

I know the sites position but she did express what is reported there

No angle from me, just wondering if her religion will cause her problems in the same way it has done for Mogg and did for Tim Farron when he was Lib Dem leader

[Josy]

What's going on with these titles/threads?

[Liam-]

His faith was never the issue, his continued lust for oppression against women and gay rights has always been the issue

[Twosugars]

Many Catholics are pragmatic and dont take the church teaching as gospel :hehe:
On the other hand, many who make a song and dance about their religion tend to be zealots


Oop, just realized I said something without saying much :)

[Kizzy]

I know the sites position but she did express what is reported there

No angle from me, just wondering if her religion will cause her problems in the same way it has done for Mogg and did for Tim Farron when he was Lib Dem leader

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/25368/rebecca_long-bailey/salford_and_eccles/divisions?policy=826

Have a look at her voting record then weigh up whether her comments were political, ethical or spiritual.

[arista]

What's going on with these titles/threads?


Can you please Correct it
it should be The Labour Party Race.


LT was he drunk or something?

[Twosugars]

Can you please Correct it
it should be The Labour Party Race.


LT was he drunk or something?

Hear hear. And the thread title for the court case.
Antisocial behaviour

[bots]

The latest YouGov survey for The Times indicates that the shadow Brexit secretary would beat his closest rival, Rebecca Long Bailey, in the final round by 63 per cent to 37 per cent if the contest concluded today.

[Kizzy]

The latest YouGov survey for The Times indicates that the shadow Brexit secretary would beat his closest rival, Rebecca Long Bailey, in the final round by 63 per cent to 37 per cent if the contest concluded today.

But it doesn't so that survey result is moot.

[Beso]

Many Catholics are pragmatic and dont take the church teaching as gospel :hehe:
On the other hand, many who make a song and dance about their religion tend to be zealots


Oop, just realized I said something without saying much :)



Can you simplify that a bit please, so I can understand.

[Beso]

I want to mention the Koran and how men are allowed to shag goats.


But I'm not sure that's what your post means Twosugars.


So can you simplify it please so I understand.

[Calderyon]

So many title changes.

[Samm]

It has to be Nandy or Starmer

Obviously if it was Long-Bailey I’ll still remain a labour voter, anything’s better then the tories but still she wouldn’t be the best choice right now

[arista]

The 5 sad MP's fighting to be the next leader
were Live on BBCnewsHD
on stage in Liverpool.


Sadly BBCnewsHD
is only dipping in to it

[arista]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s746wYFz5Gg&feature=emb_logo


Free Live Feed from Liverpool

Not Full HD
720P

[arista]

Socialism does not work in the UK.

[Kizzy]

Socialism does not work in the UK.

If it were ever given a chance it modern socialism would imo.

Cheap green energy, free broadband, cheaper rail costs... how much of that is an annual saving to you already, that impacts on your qulaity of life? .
But no, drones gotta drone.

[arista]

If it were ever given a chance it modern socialism would imo.

But this Labour Party
is too split.

[Kizzy]

But this Labour Party
is too split.

It is because it's full of lib dems... thI'd last election winkled a few out, keep them out I say :(

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/20/01/768x432/2372001180963225307_4894850.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20200118121338

Becca was worse out of the 5

[arista]

Down to 4 now

Jess Phillips has pulled out of the Race,

[Cherie]

Down to 4 now

Jess Phillips has pulled out of the Race,

Shame

[arista]

Shame


No Union Votes
meant she could not go on.

[Oliver_W]

Down to 4 now

Jess Phillips has pulled out of the Race,

Eh, when she came out with garbage like "it would be embarrassing if the next Labour leader was a man again" and previously had basically soiled herself over Sargon's (disgusting) joke, it shows she's not ready for the role.

Maybe when she's more refined and dignified.

[arista]

Lisa Nandy MP got the backing
of the GMB Union.

[Liam-]

Eh, when she came out with garbage like "it would be embarrassing if the next Labour leader was a man again" and previously had basically soiled herself over Sargon's (disgusting) joke, it shows she's not ready for the role.

Maybe when she's more refined and dignified.

I’m glad she’s out, she would have been a disaster, but it’s very unfair to criticise her about being offended by someone joking about raping her, come on now

[Saph]

im not following this but that blonde one looks like the woman who created the fat pills in doctor who

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tardis/images/a/a9/FosterAndThePill.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20130428145200

[Twosugars]

Eh, when she came out with garbage like "it would be embarrassing if the next Labour leader was a man again" and previously had basically soiled herself over Sargon's (disgusting) joke, it shows she's not ready for the role.

Maybe when she's more refined and dignified.

I know, like bojo the clown, a picture of refinement and dignity

[Liam-]

im not following this but that blonde one looks like the woman who created the fat pills in doctor who

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tardis/images/a/a9/FosterAndThePill.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20130428145200

:skull::skull:

[Oliver_W]

I know, like bojo the clown, a picture of refinement and dignity

Whatabout whatabout...

[Twosugars]

Whatabout whatabout...

So different set of requirements then?

Lack of refinement doesn't bother you with bojo but she was no good?

[Oliver_W]

So different set of requirements then?

Lack of refinement doesn't bother you with bojo but she was no good?

Have I ever complimented BoJo's mannerisms? I wanted Rory to win during the leadership race.

[Twosugars]

Have I ever complimented BoJo's mannerisms? I wanted Rory to win during the leadership race.

But you did not consider him unfit bc of that either. So you should not object to her based on that.

[arista]

im not following this but that blonde one looks like the woman who created the fat pills in doctor who

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tardis/images/a/a9/FosterAndThePill.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20130428145200


Better than that
Radio 4 Comedy Dead Ringers
called her "a Face Like a 5 year old girl."

[Kizzy]

Whatabout whatabout...

Hypocrisy hypocrisy. ..

[Oliver_W]

But you did not consider him unfit bc of that either. So you should not object to her based on that.

There are plenty of reasons I didn't want him as leader, and then wanted a hung parliament. I didn't openly object to his buffoonery because it was always a bit of an act. While in PMQs he does have bombast, he's also calm ... if that oxymoron makes sense :laugh:

[arista]

Tonight
7PM BBC2HD Andrew Neil interview's Emily
who at this time has not got full backing.

[arista]

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No chance this women
can be a leader

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPEHXQqXUAYZP9X?format=jpg&name=small

[The union has declared that it is backing
Rebecca Long-Bailey for leader.
Unite is also backing Richard Burgon
as deputy leader.]

Unite Union
pick their Leader
and Deputy

But both of these have still not
accepted why they lost

[smudgie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPEHXQqXUAYZP9X?format=jpg&name=small

[The union has declared that it is backing
Rebecca Long-Bailey for leader.
Unite is also backing Richard Burgon
as deputy leader.]

Unite Union
pick their Leader
and Deputy

But both of these have still not
accepted why they lost

Not fussed on Burgon at all.
Can’t stand listening to him drone on.

[Liam-]

Burgon is a disaster, he needs to be as far away from the front as possible

[arista]

Burgon is a disaster, he needs to be as far away from the front as possible


Yes he is not liked
so the union like his Corbyn roots

[Kizzy]

There was nothing wrong with Corbyns ideas... Nothing wrong with him come to that. This ostracism is totally unwarranted in the labour party, those who think they can gain popularity by pandering to the media hype surrounding him are doing themselves no favours.

[arista]

There was nothing wrong with Corbyns ideas... Nothing wrong with him come to that. This ostracism is totally unwarranted in the labour party, those who think they can gain popularity by pandering to the media hype surrounding him are doing themselves no favours.


Even some in the Race
said Corbyn overloaded offers
like they new the Broadband had to paid
by high taxes,


Corbyn Failed 100%

[Kizzy]

Even some in the Race
said Corbyn overloaded offers
like they new the Broadband had to paid
by high taxes,


Corbyn Failed 100%

So what.. What's wrong with taxes?

His policies haven't failed they just weren't implemented. I'd say many would've been successful.

[arista]

So what.. What's wrong with taxes?

His policies haven't failed they just weren't implemented. I'd say many would've been successful.

It made Voters in the Labour Party
pick Conservative.

Corbyn wanted Extra High Taxes

Corbyn Ideas Failed

[Kizzy]

That wasn't why labour voters voted conservative, the taxes proposed only affected those earning over 80k. So sorry that was not the reason the toris won in low income areas this election.

The idea did not fail, the idea hasn't had a chance to fail as it hasn't happened.

[bots]

the idea has happened. Labour put it in their manifesto and the public said no thanks

[Kizzy]

the idea has happened. Labour put it in their manifesto and the public said no thanks

His policies were recieved favourably, it was him and his brexit stance that lost seats.

[bots]

the manifesto included the stance on europe. The public rejected the manifesto and the leadership of the labour party. So, what is being proposed now is that they put some Corbyn clones in and keep the manifesto. Sounds like a great plan

[Livia]

I really like Lisa Nandy. What a breath of fresh air she would be.

[arista]

That wasn't why labour voters voted conservative, the taxes proposed only affected those earning over 80k. So sorry that was not the reason the toris won in low income areas this election.

The idea did not fail, the idea hasn't had a chance to fail as it hasn't happened.


Interviews with Public
this week gone
said who pays for free broadband?
They said they would - NOTHING about the 80K

Ref: SkyNewsHD , BBCnewsHD , Ch5HD AM,
Ch4HD news.

[michael21]

Interviews with Public
this week gone
said who pays for free broadband?
They said they would - NOTHING about the 80K

Ref: SkyNewsHD , BBCnewsHD , Ch5HD AM,
Ch4HD news.

Yes there can skip some information sign of the times

[Kizzy]

Interviews with Public
this week gone
said who pays for free broadband?
They said they would - NOTHING about the 80K

Ref: SkyNewsHD , BBCnewsHD , Ch5HD AM,
Ch4HD news.

Then they are misinformed...it happens

[James]

Deadline of 5PM today

For any that want to vote
by joining the sad Labour Party
Cost £25.

It's stupid that they allow people to vote who joined after the leadership contest was announced.

[Kizzy]

Well if there was a higher chance of a real socialist getting in again they wouldn't obv...

[arista]

It's stupid that they allow people to vote who joined after the leadership contest was announced.


They do it to boost the membership.
As it had gone down due to the Jewish Labour Division.



It seems Corbyn boosted the anti Jewish
posters on Facebook and twitter.

[arista]

Keir was Live on SkyNewsHD Westminster.

He is also going into the London Studio
of GMBHD itv soon.

[Kizzy]

They do it to boost the membership.
As it had gone down due to the Jewish Labour Division.



It seems Corbyn boosted the anti Jewish
posters on Facebook and twitter.

That is rubbish.. but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. If it's all Corbyn giving them a 'boost' as soon as the new leader is announced all antisemitism in all parties, social media and wider society in the UK will stop won't it?...

I'll look forward to that.

[Alf]

Scrap the party, Labour are dead. It's over.

Whose bright idea was it to have Owen Jones as the face of Labour? Calling all the working class, bigots.

Lammey, calling all the working class, racists.

Political suicide. Good riddence.

[arista]

Lisa Nandy MP
is Live on the Left Wing show on LBC now

Lisa has removed her twitter
from her phone?

That s Lazy of her................

[Elliot]

Whose bright idea was it to have Owen Jones as the face of Labour? Calling all the working class, bigots.


is he? To who?

[Alf]

is he? To who?To the many, not the few.

[Livia]

Looks like the inquiry into Labour's anti-Semitism is being extended till July owing to Labour's lawyers failure to hand over requested documentation. What a shame the new leader, whoever that is, will have to continue to deal with this.

[arista]

Pathetic Corbyn Live in PMQ's
is wasting 10mins on the Middle East,
What about the UK - Poxy Labour

[Oliver_W]

Pathetic Corbyn Live in PMQ's
is wasting 10mins on the Middle East,
What about the UK - Poxy Labour

He's allowed to ask what he wants :shrug: he's leaving soon and there's a pretty big majority on the benches opposite him, so at this point he really may as well ask about things he cares about without being limited.

[Kizzy]

Pathetic Corbyn Live in PMQ's
is wasting 10mins on the Middle East,
What about the UK - Poxy Labour

It's important do you want another war?.

[arista]

It's important do you want another war?.

No one wants a War.
But Corbyn wasted over 10mins on the Middle East.
thats wrong.


Its the UK Question Time in Parliament

The middle East can not be changed by us,

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

No one wants a War.
But Corbyn wasted over 10mins on the Middle East.
thats wrong.


Its the UK Question Time in Parliament

The middle East can not be changed by us,

It's not wrong if it's important to the stability of peace in the middle east. You do know that affects us too right?...

[Kizzy]

1222955160462413825

Omg the character assassination starts...

[Brother Leon]

Omg the character assassination starts...

Are we shocked?


Anyone that thinks it was just Corbyn that was going to get media crucified as Labour leader is being incredibly naive.

[Kizzy]

Are we shocked?


Anyone that thinks it was just Corbyn that was going to get media crucified as Labour leader is being incredibly naive.

No nor shocked one bit... terrified of the left aren't they?
Reports on media bias in the UK show we don't have anything resembling a 'free press' :/

[Oliver_W]

No nor shocked one bit... terrified of the left aren't they?
Reports on media bias in the UK show we don't have anything resembling a 'free press' :/

The presence of bias doesn't suggest the absence of free press.

[Kizzy]

The presence of bias doesn't suggest the absence of free press.

It depends on the level and the scope of the bias.

[arista]

[Labour leadership contest:
Rebecca Long-Bailey causes 'massive row'
over claims of nepotism ]

[The leading left-wing candidate has
made private phone calls to
both Seb Corbyn, son of the Labour leader,
and Laura Murray, daughter of senior
Labour adviser Andrew Murray,
to assure them she was not
referring to them when
she told The Guardian that under her
leadership "promotions will be based
on what you know, not who you know".
Seb Corbyn previously worked as an
adviser to shadow chancellor
John McDonnell, while Laura Murray is the
Labour Party's head of complaints.]

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-leadership-contest-rebecca-long-bailey-causes-massive-row-over-claims-of-nepotism-11926291


Typical of Her

https://e3.365dm.com/20/02/768x432/skynews-rebecca-long-bailey_4911422.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20200204163450

[Kizzy]

God forbid anyone would want to talk to anyone they may have inadvertently offended....

Another media storm in a teacup.

[arista]

The Latest poll
has Keir Starmer at the top.

Next Week
Wednesday Newsnight BBC2HD
has a Labour Leadership with the 4

[arista]

Also
BBC Newsnight would not mention this.

[The candidates will face an audience of 100 voters on Thursday 27 February - just a week after ballots open in the contest. It will be hosted by Sophy Ridge at 8pm and will last one hour, without breaks.]


[Sky News has decided to hold the debate in Dewsbury,
a Leave-voting seat in Yorkshire that Labour lost
to the Conservatives on a 4.5% swing in 2019.
It's exactly the sort of constituency the new leader
will need to recapture if they are to lead
the party to victory at the next election.]

No ads thats good
on SkyNewsHD.

[Kizzy]

Hmm Dewsbury, most of the audience will be from Leeds hopefully for balance.

[arista]

Hmm Dewsbury, most of the audience will be from Leeds hopefully for balance.

Also Great
SkyNewsHD is doing the Debate with no ads
also free on YouTube

[arista]

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[Kizzy]

1225373656282472450

Seems sensible really. Remember when we went to war on a lie?

A couple of impassioned speeches and suddenly every MP wants to drop bombs, haven't forgiven Hilary Benn for his part in the last crusade. His dad would be spinning!!

[Ammi]

Labour leadership candidate Sir Keir Starmer's mother-in-law has died after she was in an accident two weeks ago.

The MP, who is running to replace Jeremy Corbyn, had taken a break from campaigning this weekend due to her being ill.

The chairwoman of his campaign, Jenny Chapman, announced on Sunday that his mother-in-law died yesterday.

She tweeted: “My thoughts and prayers are with Keir Starmer and his family.

“Keir’s mother-in-law died yesterday following an accident two weeks ago.

“Thank you to everyone for being so kind and supportive and for respecting his family’s privacy at this difficult time.”

[arista]

Yes Hustings tomorrow cancelled

[michael21]

There should not stop for a bit of wind

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQad9uPXsAYjnA5?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

BBCnewsHD has the 4 Labour MP's
in a Public debate for another hour
started at 9:30AM

[GoldHeart]

What difference does it make , oh well I guess they have to try :idc:

[Oliver_W]

It's really down to Nandy and Starmer, especially after yesterday...

[arista]

It's really down to Nandy and Starmer, especially after yesterday...


Yes the Newsnight BBC2HD Debate was better
last night,
just the 4 of them with a one presenter.

[bots]

Emily Thornberry has been eliminated from race - thank goodness


She is such a modest person ....

"I'll have a week of rest now, then it's back to the day job of holding this wretched Tory government to account on its foreign policy, and doing so with the same passion, tenacity and forensic skill I've shown for four years in that role," she added

[arista]

Yes Over Cocky
Emily could not get backers


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51505547

[arista]

The next Live Debate is Monday Ch4HD 8PM

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=365028

[Kizzy]

I'm so dissapointed in Thornbury, who'd have thought she would have turned into such a career driven backstabbing turncoat?

[Oliver_W]

I'm so dissapointed in Thornbury, who'd have thought she would have turned into such a career driven backstabbing turncoat?

Lol yeah, she always seemed so humble and cooperative :joker:

I think her rant about the SNP sank her chances.

[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ0k2C2X0AEL2PJ?format=jpg&name=small

[michael21]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ0k2C2X0AEL2PJ?format=jpg&name=small

I still be asleep at that time

[arista]

Rebecca
claims she will Win?
She was last on Marr BBC1HD.

And she claims she will stop Transphobic people in
her party?

Removes her Glasses
which makes no change

[Oliver_W]

She really needs to not win, lol.

[arista]

She really needs to not win, lol.


Yes or they will not get into power

[arista]

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[Livia]

Rebecca Long Bailey would have Corbyn in the shadow cabinet, probably as foreign secretary.

Lisa Nandy would vote to abolish the monarchy.

Kier Starmer is looking better and better.

[bots]

Starmer is much more of a favourite to win the leadership than Boris was, it would be a major upset if he lost.

[Kizzy]

Wonder if starmer will be grilled on trans rights like the women interviewed recently have been? I'm interested in his take on party policy.

[Oliver_W]

Wonder if starmer will be grilled on trans rights like the women interviewed recently have been? I'm interested in his take on party policy.

All three answered a question about the trans stuff last night, I can't really remember the specifics but he had a milquetoast "transwomen are women" response.

[Livia]

Anyone mention trans men at all? Because the trans people who seem to make make ALL the noise, used to be men and are therefore, well used to being listened to. I never see a female to male trans screaming in someone's face "I'M A MAN! JUST LIKE YOU!"

[Oliver_W]

Anyone mention trans men at all? Because the trans people who seem to make make ALL the noise, used to be men and are therefore, well used to being listened to. I never see a female to male trans screaming in someone's face "I'M A MAN! JUST LIKE YOU!"

To be fair you see those beasts who present as male while "free bleeding"...