This has been making me howl ALL day.

[Rob!]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

horrible

[Tony Montana]

Omg. :joker:

[Morgan.]

horrible

I know, such a nasty racist thing for that elderly woman to say

[Tom4784]

I love Imogen Heap.

[Beso]

Bet she won't be so confident in front of God's pearly gates.

[Tom4784]

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[Beso]

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Words of the devil...

[MB.]

The superior TikTok

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[Crimson Dynamo]

I know, such a nasty racist thing for that elderly woman to say

Yes almost as if it actually happened and it's not part of this vile narcissistic dream video:hee:

[LukeB]

The superior TikTok

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:joker:

[montblanc]

The superior TikTok

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omg qua :love:

[Moniqua]

omg qua :love:

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[Zizu]

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When she grows up she’ll may be a little more tolerant towards the elderly .. they were born and raised in different times ..

A couple of my 80 year old neighbours occasionally say shockingly racist things just in general conversation but they’re still good people .. they just grew up in times of something like 95% white English communities ... times have changed so much , nowadays they see the terrible news stories like the sex rings in the north of England which always seem have a race element ...


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[Cherie]

The superior TikTok

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So pleased we can tweet lazy stereotypes about any nationality without censure, good to know :thumbs:

[Marsh.]

When she grows up she’ll may be a little more tolerant towards the elderly .. they were born and raised in different times ..

A couple of my 80 year old neighbours occasionally say shockingly racist things just in general conversation but they’re still good people .. they just grew up in times of something like 95% white English communities ... times have changed so much , nowadays they see the terrible news stories like the sex rings in the north of England which always seem have a race element ...


:facepalm:

English communities have nothing to do with it when this girl is clearly American.

As for blaming this girl for having a racist comment said to her, SHE needs to be more tolerant. :laugh2:

[MB.]

...also she's just lip syncing to an old viral TikTok

[Zizu]

:facepalm:

English communities have nothing to do with it when this girl is clearly American.

As for blaming this girl for having a racist comment said to her, SHE needs to be more tolerant. :laugh2:



I was speaking ‘generally’ .. and yes she should have been more tolerant of an old lady who was could have been suffering from Alzheimer's or something..

If it was said by a younger person that would be different


You surely realise that old folk get easily confused and often say cruel or hurtful things to people they love never mind strangers


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[MB.]

again, not a thing that she said or did

[Marsh.]

"It's YOUR fault that someone said something racist to you! They could've had Alzheimers or something!!!"

[Zizu]

"It's YOUR fault that someone said something racist to you! They could've had Alzheimers or something!!!"

I was talking specifically about old folk as you know ..

I thought we were playing nice.. .

Can’t decide if you’re being provocative or just simply naive .

If you want hostilities to recommence then so be it ..


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[Marsh.]

I was talking specifically about old folk as you know ..

Yes, we should allow old people to be racist... because they might be senile.


If you want hostilities to recommence then so be it ..


I don't know what this means so I'll just say... ok.

[Tom4784]

:facepalm:

English communities have nothing to do with it when this girl is clearly American.

As for blaming this girl for having a racist comment said to her, SHE needs to be more tolerant. :laugh2:


We should be tolerant of other people's intolerance! :nono:

[Shaun]

A couple of my 80 year old neighbours occasionally say shockingly racist things just in general conversation but they’re still good people

nah they ain't, love. it's that simple :)

[Zizu]

Fingers crossed none of you guys get old .. eh ;)


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[Marsh.]

Fingers crossed none of you guys get old .. eh ;)


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I agree, so everyone will assume I have alzheimers just because I'm old! :thumbs:

[Zizu]

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[Marsh.]

I'll make it really simple for you...

Older people feeling less inhibited to say the offensive things on their mind does not make the offensive things on their mind any better.

Alzheimers or "getting old" doesn't create racist/offensive thoughts. Just means they're likely to say them where normally they'd keep it to themselves.

Kind of like excusing the rantings of a drunk person for being drunk. The alcohol didn't create the rantings, just made the person relaxed enough to verbalise them!

So google "old people say racist things" all you like! :thumbs:

[Jake.]

When she grows up she’ll may be a little more tolerant towards the elderly .. they were born and raised in different times ..

A couple of my 80 year old neighbours occasionally say shockingly racist things just in general conversation but they’re still good people .. they just grew up in times of something like 95% white English communities ... times have changed so much , nowadays they see the terrible news stories like the sex rings in the north of England which always seem have a race element ...


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Well, which is it?

[Zizu]

I'll make it really simple for you...

Older people feeling less inhibited to say the offensive things on their mind does not make the offensive things on their mind any better.

Alzheimers or "getting old" doesn't create racist/offensive thoughts. Just means they're likely to say them where normally they'd keep it to themselves.

Kind of like excusing the rantings of a drunk person for being drunk. The alcohol didn't create the rantings, just made the person relaxed enough to verbalise them!

So google "old people say racist things" all you like! :thumbs:



If we’re being honest .. you /we will all know people who occasionally ‘think’ racist things but never say anything ..


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[MB.]

again, you're all losing your panties over a lip sync

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[Zizu]

Well, which is it?



It’s a bit of both ..


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[Zizu]

I'll make it really simple for you...

Older people feeling less inhibited to say the offensive things on their mind does not make the offensive things on their mind any better.

Alzheimers or "getting old" doesn't create racist/offensive thoughts. Just means they're likely to say them where normally they'd keep it to themselves.

Kind of like excusing the rantings of a drunk person for being drunk. The alcohol didn't create the rantings, just made the person relaxed enough to verbalise them!

So google "old people say racist things" all you like! :thumbs:



That’s a very blinkered approach to the issue .. but then again , you’re happy to condone the girl saying that the old dear deserved to die because of the things she said ... sooooo


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[Toy Soldier]

I mean...

1) This isn't the original video, it's a lip sync.

2) It's a "viral TikTok" and you can therefore be 90% sure it didn't literally happen. That's not to say it DOESN'T happen, but you can be pretty sure that this specific example is fiction.

3) One of the first things they say is "they were clearly mentally ill", and ignoring parts 1) and 2) and pretending that this IS a real thing... no, I don't think it's "funny" to talk about or encourange violence e.g. "punching a mentally ill person in the throat" for any reason, it's actually pretty grim. Mentally ill and learning disabled people say inappropriate and offensive things. No one has to accept it or like it but maybe not applaud aggressive language and assault :umm2:.

[Toy Soldier]

Alzheimers or "getting old" doesn't create racist/offensive thoughts. Just means they're likely to say them where normally they'd keep it to themselves.


"Getting old" no but alzheimers and other dementia this is actually a gross over-simplification; they definitely CAN come along with a "tourettes-like" compulsion to say the most inappropriate thing. It doesn't mean that person was secretly racist when they were younger, it's literally a thought process of "what would be the worst thing someone could say right now" and that actually being verbalised.

Again, of course, none of this actually happened but I guess that's the problem. Fictional viral videos generating a tidal wave of un-nuanced outrage-opinion based on little to nothing at all and everyone feeding off each other to generate whole belief sets based on layperson opinion instead of actual knowledge and understanding. 2020 innit.

[Zizu]

I mean...

1) This isn't the original video, it's a lip sync.

2) It's a "viral TikTok" and you can therefore be 90% sure it didn't literally happen. That's not to say it DOESN'T happen, but you can be pretty sure that this specific example is fiction.

3) One of the first things they say is "they were clearly mentally ill", and ignoring parts 1) and 2) and pretending that this IS a real thing... no, I don't think it's "funny" to talk about or encourange violence e.g. "punching a mentally ill person in the throat" for any reason, it's actually pretty grim. Mentally ill and learning disabled people say inappropriate and offensive things. No one has to accept it or like it but maybe not applaud aggressive language and assault :umm2:.



Thank you . At last a measured , informed, mature response to a difficult subject


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[Zizu]

"Getting old" no but alzheimers and other dementia this is actually a gross over-simplification; they definitely CAN come along with a "tourettes-like" compulsion to say the most inappropriate thing. It doesn't mean that person was secretly racist when they were younger, it's literally a thought process of "what would be the worst thing someone could say right now" and that actually being verbalised.



Again, of course, none of this actually happened but I guess that's the problem. Fictional viral videos generating a tidal wave of un-nuanced outrage-opinion based on little to nothing at all and everyone feeding off each other to generate whole belief sets based on layperson opinion instead of actual knowledge and understanding. 2020 innit.



Thank the Lord you were passing by ..


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[Marsh.]

"Getting old" no but alzheimers and other dementia this is actually a gross over-simplification; they definitely CAN come along with a "tourettes-like" compulsion to say the most inappropriate thing. It doesn't mean that person was secretly racist when they were younger, it's literally a thought process of "what would be the worst thing someone could say right now" and that actually being verbalised.

Again, of course, none of this actually happened but I guess that's the problem. Fictional viral videos generating a tidal wave of un-nuanced outrage-opinion based on little to nothing at all and everyone feeding off each other to generate whole belief sets based on layperson opinion instead of actual knowledge and understanding. 2020 innit.

Fair enough but far from the point Zizu was making.

Racism should not be toletated, no matter their age.

I imagine the tourettes-like older racists are a very slim number. :laugh:

[Marsh.]

That’s a very blinkered approach to the issue .. but then again , you’re happy to condone the girl saying that the old dear deserved to die because of the things she said ... sooooo


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I'd like you to point out where I condoned any violence or said anyone "deserved to die".

What a stupid response. Don't invent things

[Marsh.]

If we’re being honest .. you /we will all know people who occasionally ‘think’ racist things but never say anything ..


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Not sure what point you're making. I'm sure we do know those people, racist thoughts are racist thoughts. :shrug:

[Marsh.]

again, you're all losing your panties over a lip sync



Not really. The discussion became more general about the topic, not specific to the video.

[Zizu]

Not sure what point you're making. I'm sure we do know those people, racist thoughts are racist thoughts. :shrug:



I’m getting tired of having to explain things over and over .. try figuring it out


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[Marsh.]

I’m getting tired of having to explain things over and over .. try figuring it out


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You just accused me of wishing someone dead so, yeah, maybe explain better. :idc:

[Tom4784]

That's a lot of hoops to jump through to defend a racist.

[Zizu]

I'd like you to point out where I condoned any violence or said anyone "deserved to die".

What a stupid response. Don't invent things



You took the side of the girl...


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[Zizu]

Fair enough but far from the point Zizu was making.



Racism should not be toletated, no matter their age.



I imagine the tourettes-like older racists are a very slim number. :laugh:



You imagine lots of things though .. soooooo


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[Zizu]

We should be tolerant of other people's intolerance! :nono:



That’s possibly the wisest thing you’ve ever said .. quit while you’re ahead .


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[Twosugars]

That’s possibly the wisest thing you’ve ever said .. quit while you’re ahead .


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Would you suggest tolerating racist ideologies?

[Zizu]

Would you suggest tolerating racist ideologies?



Why take everything out of context .. just to be provocative ?

I was just applauding the concept of us all being a little more tolerant of others ..


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[Tom4784]

That’s possibly the wisest thing you’ve ever said .. quit while you’re ahead .


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So you're okay with racism and think people should stay silent when confronted with it? That's what it sounds like.

[Tom4784]

Why take everything out of context .. just to be provocative ?

I was just applauding the concept of us all being a little more tolerant of others ..


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Even though it's just a meme and we pretended for a moment that it was real, why are you not condemning the woman's racist intolerance and instead focusing on condemning the victim for being intolerant of intolerance? Explain.

[Zizu]

Even though it's just a meme and we pretended for a moment that it was real, why are you not condemning the woman's racist intolerance and instead focusing on condemning the victim for being intolerant of intolerance? Explain.



If you’re happy with the girl being super chuffed that the old lady had passed away days after insulting her ...


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[Tom4784]

If you’re happy with the girl being super chuffed that the old lady had passed away days after insulting her ...


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If someone told me they were basically nostalgic for the days I would have been a slave, I wouldn't shed a tear over them dying.

You're getting up in arms about a black person being unbothered about someone dying who basically said to them that they consider them a lower form of human that should be enslaved.

[Twosugars]

Why take everything out of context .. just to be provocative ?

I was just applauding the concept of us all being a little more tolerant of others ..


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Your position may have been poorly worded?

I'd understand if you called for tolerance of people who are mentally Ill but not bc they are simply old.
Maybe that's what you meant? Idk.

[Marsh.]

You imagine lots of things though .. soooooo


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Grow up lad. :thumbs:

[Toy Soldier]

If someone told me they were basically nostalgic for the days I would have been a slave, I wouldn't shed a tear over them dying.

You're getting up in arms about a black person being unbothered about someone dying who basically said to them that they consider them a lower form of human that should be enslaved.

"Unbothered" is fine but they're not unbothered, they're gloating/celebrating it. Again this is of course in the land of make-believe where this incident actually happened and isn't a fictional viral TikTok.

My opinion on this would be different if the person who originally made the content didn't specify "clearly mentally ill" - it completely changes the discussion. Though I wouldn't be comfortable condoning the "I'm going to punch them in the throat" comment either way, the "karma" comment would be more understandable.

But beaming about karma over the death of a mentally ill (IN THEIR OWN WORDS) person because they "said racist stuff"...? Gross.

[Marsh.]

You took the side of the girl...


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I don't think I did defend the girl. You defended the racist in the scenario and I responded.

Finding a racist... well, racist is not justification of violence or death threats.

Shouldn't have to point out such an obvious, basic thing sooooooo..

[Marsh.]

"Unbothered" is fine but they're not unbothered, they're gloating/celebrating it. Again this is of course in the land of make-believe where this incident actually happened and isn't a fictional viral TikTok.

My opinion on this would be different if the person who originally made the content didn't specify "clearly mentally ill" - it completely changes the discussion. Though I wouldn't be comfortable condoning the "I'm going to punch them in the throat" comment either way, the "karma" comment would be more understandable.

But beaming about karma over the death of a mentally ill (IN THEIR OWN WORDS) person because they "said racist stuff"...? Gross.

Tbf "clearly mentally ill" is a poorly used phrase by a lot of people to just dismiss/insult someone so (if this scenario was real that is :worry:) I wouldn't necessarily take it that she diagnosed the woman as actually mentally ill.

[Josy]

I understand where zizu is coming from with elderly people being from a different era were things that have obviously never been ok but somehow where seen as being so back then, things weren't as pc either so being the age they are they will be more set in thier old ways and today's ways will take a bit of time getting used to, that however doesnt excuse being outright offensive and then using age or illnesses as an excuse to get away with it but we rightly expect them to adjust to today's society so in fairness we should also be a little more tolerant and accepting of them trying to catch up. IMO

In the elderly home I visit a lot some of them say things that are completely unacceptable (mostly sexism towards female staff that I've witnessed) but when this is explained to them by staff some of them really dont seem to understand why.

[Tom4784]

Tbf "clearly mentally ill" is a poorly used phrase by a lot of people to just dismiss/insult someone so (if this scenario was real that is :worry:) I wouldn't necessarily take it that she diagnosed the woman as actually mentally ill.

Pretty much, it's just another hoop to jump through to make someone who is a victim of racism look bad.

At the end of the day, if someone's a twat in life then I'm not gonna really pretend to grieve for them in death to make myself look better to other people. That's gross and I'd hate it if a bunch of people who hated me in life pretended like they were my best friend when I died.

I don't think anyone should shed a tear for someone who looks back at slavely fondly.

[Zizu]

Your position may have been poorly worded?



I'd understand if you called for tolerance of people who are mentally Ill but not bc they are simply old.

Maybe that's what you meant? Idk.



It is basically what I meant I’d like us all to be more tolerant of others but with the proviso that some / many old people should be afforded even more tolerance for different reasons.




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[Crimson Dynamo]

How anyone can find humour in this is beyond me

[Zizu]

I understand where zizu is coming from with elderly people being from a different era were things that have obviously never been ok but somehow where seen as being so back then, things weren't as pc either so being the age they are they will be more set in thier old ways and today's ways will take a bit of time getting used to, that however doesnt excuse being outright offensive and then using age or illnesses as an excuse to get away with it but we rightly expect them to adjust to today's society so in fairness we should also be a little more tolerant and accepting of them trying to catch up. IMO

In the elderly home I visit a lot some of them say things that are completely unacceptable (mostly sexism towards female staff that I've witnessed) but when this is explained to them by staff some of them really dont seem to understand why.



Interesting


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[Zizu]

"Unbothered" is fine but they're not unbothered, they're gloating/celebrating it. Again this is of course in the land of make-believe where this incident actually happened and isn't a fictional viral TikTok.



My opinion on this would be different if the person who originally made the content didn't specify "clearly mentally ill" - it completely changes the discussion. Though I wouldn't be comfortable condoning the "I'm going to punch them in the throat" comment either way, the "karma" comment would be more understandable.



But beaming about karma over the death of a mentally ill (IN THEIR OWN WORDS) person because they "said racist stuff"...? Gross.



Again , another well informed, balanced post .

Watch and learn guys !!

You know who you are :)

I’m done here now .. Liverpool about to play ManU ... priorities..


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[Marsh.]

Again , another well informed, balanced post .

Watch and learn guys !!

You know who you are :)

I’m done here now .. Liverpool about to play ManU ... priorities..


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Grow up. :pat:

[Marsh.]

How anyone can find humour in this is beyond me

I agree tbh.

Rob is so juvenile.

[Shaun]

I understand where zizu is coming from with elderly people being from a different era were things that have obviously never been ok but somehow where seen as being so back then, things weren't as pc either so being the age they are they will be more set in thier old ways and today's ways will take a bit of time getting used to, that however doesnt excuse being outright offensive and then using age or illnesses as an excuse to get away with it but we rightly expect them to adjust to today's society so in fairness we should also be a little more tolerant and accepting of them trying to catch up. IMO

In the elderly home I visit a lot some of them say things that are completely unacceptable (mostly sexism towards female staff that I've witnessed) but when this is explained to them by staff some of them really dont seem to understand why.

Absolutely, but there is a clear and obvious gap in age between "when slavery was legal" and "whenever this woman's youth was", let alone the gap between then and now. To try and pass this comment - "bring back slavery" - as a difference in generations today is just insanely myopic.

[Marsh.]

Absolutely, but there is a clear and obvious gap in age between "when slavery was legal" and "whenever this woman's youth was", let alone the gap between then and now. To try and pass this comment - "bring back slavery" - as a difference in generations today is just insanely myopic.

Another well informed and balanced post for you Zizu. :)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Absolutely, but there is a clear and obvious gap in age between "when slavery was legal" and "whenever this woman's youth was", let alone the gap between then and now. To try and pass this comment - "bring back slavery" - as a difference in generations today is just insanely myopic.

Its made up, it never happened - this person probably is so stupid they think that an old lady in the street can remember 1830 when she was probably born in 1940.

in creating some fanfiction to get likes on social media all they have done is illustrate how intolerant and poorly educated they are

[Marsh.]

Its made up, it never happened - this person probably is so stupid they think that an old lady in the street can remember 1830 when she was probably born in 1940.

in creating some fanfiction to get likes on social media all they have done is illustrate how intolerant and poorly educated they are

I don't think the goal in a lip sync intended for humour is to be historically accurate. Probably just to be funny.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't think the goal in a lip sync intended for humour is to be historically accurate. Probably just to be funny.

well its should be :oh:

[Ross.]

I see Rob is still a troublemaker

[Cherie]

I see Rob is still a troublemaker

:laugh:

Are you dancing around the kitchen in a leprechaun hat and boiling potatoes, if not get right on it :fist:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I mean it’s sort of funny the first time you see it but to be howling at it all day? Sweetie

[Jordan.]

Can we debate this instead

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[Toy Soldier]

Pretty much, it's just another hoop to jump through to make someone who is a victim of racism look bad.

At the end of the day, if someone's a twat in life then I'm not gonna really pretend to grieve for them in death to make myself look better to other people. That's gross and I'd hate it if a bunch of people who hated me in life pretended like they were my best friend when I died.

I don't think anyone should shed a tear for someone who looks back at slavely fondly.

Again... there's a pretty big gap between "not shedding a tear" / "not pretending to be upset" when someone dies... and gloating/celebrating. The former is fair enough, the latter is ... uncouth.

[Toy Soldier]

Can we debate this instead

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Actual abuse. :shrug:

[Twosugars]

Again... there's a pretty big gap between "not shedding a tear" / "not pretending to be upset" when someone dies... and gloating/celebrating. The former is fair enough, the latter is ... uncouth.

What if trump died?

[Toy Soldier]

What if trump died?

I think relief would be fair because he holds so much actual power, but yeah celebrating or gloating - even for Trump (or worse) - is tasteless.

[Marsh.]

What if I died?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

What if I died?

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[Cherie]

What if I died?

https://media3.giphy.com/media/10hO3rDNqqg2Xe/giphy.gif

:joker:

[Kizzy]

"It's YOUR fault that someone said something racist to you! They could've had Alzheimers or something!!!"

Didn't she say in the vid she had mental health issues? Sometimes people with mental health issues say horrible inappropriate things. It is hard but in those instances you just have to be a bit more tolerant.

[Marsh.]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/10hO3rDNqqg2Xe/giphy.gif

:joker:

[Rob!]

What if I died?

God's timing is always right x

[Rob!]

I should have known what the reaction to this should have been. You'd think I'd learn by now.

[Marsh.]

God's timing is always right x

:joker:

[Swan]

Ok, mentally ill elderly woman makes a racist comment to young black lad. God see's this, unhappy with it all, bestows a heart attack on the woman and kills her.

[Mitchell]

The superior TikTok

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Ffs :joker:

[Marsh.]

Ok, mentally ill elderly woman makes a racist comment to young black lad. God see's this, unhappy with it all, bestows a heart attack on the woman and kills her.

No. First, she's a girl. Second, as MB said, this did not happen.

[Swan]

No. First, she's a girl. Second, as MB said, this did not happen.

Oh right, because i wasn't sure. Thanks.

[Jessica.]

The superior TikTok



1218024923874103296I'm awarding her honorary Irish nationality for that gem

[Jessica.]

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[arista]

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Yes so the Cotton Picking Threat Old Lady
has died.

Making that Worker Happy.
(The Original Video is on the thread- is better)

TikTok
a place for FREAKS.

[Zizu]

Didn't she say in the vid she had mental health issues? Sometimes people with mental health issues say horrible inappropriate things. It is hard but in those instances you just have to be a bit more tolerant.



Hallelujah !!


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[Zizu]

Absolutely, but there is a clear and obvious gap in age between "when slavery was legal" and "whenever this woman's youth was", let alone the gap between then and now. To try and pass this comment - "bring back slavery" - as a difference in generations today is just insanely myopic.



The difference is that you are referring to specifics whilst I was generalising .


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