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Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 09:08 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/women/2020/01/20/TELEMMGLPICT000221946692_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqxqudurc 5yeFP8agH1DpUvitXp20XAh0xT1ACs1Rz2pc.jpeg?imwidth= 600

Forty years ago, newly-wed wives might have expected a pristine set of Elizabeth David cookery books
as a wedding present - a then socially acceptable reminder of wifely duties to feed and nourish loved ones.

While women clearly no longer need solely to define themselves by their nurturing role, in sharp contrast to the
“slummy mummy” school of blogging, there is an emerging trend to focus on the joys of a traditional domestic
setting, accompanied by the social media hashtag, #TradWife.

It seems that sane women in their tens of thousands are throwing out microwaves and power suits, and investing
their time and energies into the wholesome domestic arts of cooking, baking and homemaking – ironically finding
a new revenue stream as a result.

Feminists have been enraged by this 1950s-style movement, some describing it as analogous to the far-Right,
where in the US in particular housewives and bloggers like Dixie Andelin Forsyth willingly ‘submit’ to their husbands, Gilead-style.

Andelin Forsyth has more than 100K community subscribers and provides video instruction on every aspect
of tradwifehood, from harmless bread making to the more eerie topic of greeting your husband at the end
of the day. Here in the UK, traditional homemaker and author Alena Pettitt runs ‘feminine finishing school’
Darling Academy, which provides inspiration, guidance and empowerment for stay at home mothers.

She argues that tradwifehood is just another choice for women and in no way anti-feminist.
Once a stressed-out marketing manager, she now describes herself as ‘household CEO’;
with a much higher status role, saying it gives her greater control and therefore more satisfaction and purpose in life.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2018/12/14/183676902_hinch_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqeo_i_u9APj8Ruoeb joAHt0k9u7HhRJvuo-ZLenGRumA.jpg?imwidth=600

“Social media content is often content for entertainment’s sake,” says McCorquodale.
“Followers of #TradWives are looking for positive distraction from their lives. And bloggers like Pettitt or
‘cleanstagram’ stars like Mrs Hinch are intelligent women who have stumbled upon an unanswered
demand and are ultimately monetising the trend.”

Balancing home and work isn’t exactly a new thing. Women have been working around their
families for all of time. A fetishised 2020 nostalgia for home and hearth may feel like a retrograde step
for enlightened feminists, but there are plenty who are running families and subsequent businesses
successfully without the cultish hashtag.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/back-kitchen-meet-women-want-tradwives-cash-domestic-duty/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/proud-tradwife-dont-regret-paid-wife-bonus-husband/

Are you attracted by a Tradwife Life?

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 09:09 AM
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Niamh.
21-01-2020, 09:12 AM
:laugh2: Good luck to them, I prefer a more balanced team type relationship than unpaid servant but each to their own

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 09:20 AM
:laugh2: Good luck to them, I prefer a more balanced team type relationship than unpaid servant but each to their own

:nono:

Neem do you know how to greet Gav when he returns home from work?

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 09:21 AM
:nono:

Neem do you know how to greet Gav when he returns home from work?

He gets home before me and he greets me with a kiss :love:

Kazanne
21-01-2020, 09:22 AM
Each to their own if that's what they want to do, in a relationship,I don't care who does what as long as it gets done. I don't really think about the equality of it all.

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 09:25 AM
Each to their own if that's what they want to do, in a relationship,I don't care who does what as long as it gets done. I don't really think about the equality of it all.

I'd imagine you would if it was unequal though, It would only be on your radar if things seemed unfair

Cherie
21-01-2020, 09:26 AM
Its all about choice, I think there is a place for housewives and househusbands if that suits their lifestyle and they are fulfilled and happy, not everyone wants to do a 9 to 5 or wants to be a CEO or have a high powered job and this applies to men and women, some men/women are very happy to stay at home fulltime, I haven't worked full time for 22 years and I love it :hehe: and honestly at this point in time I think I could quite easily quit my job and never look back :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 09:29 AM
who puts out the bins in your houses?

Cherie
21-01-2020, 09:30 AM
who puts out the bins in your houses?


I put them out sometimes, sometimes Mr C, these dark nights because the side gate has a padlock with a number combination, I put them outside the gate in the light and Mr C brings them down the drive when he gets home, teamwork makes the dream work :laugh:

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 09:32 AM
who puts out the bins in your houses?

I bring the rubbish and paper and plastic recycling to work and use our bins there and Gav does the glass and tin recycling in the recycling area near the Supermarket when he's going food shopping

Kazanne
21-01-2020, 09:33 AM
Usually Jay, but sometimes I will do it.

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 09:34 AM
I bring the rubbish and paper and plastic recycling to work and use our bins there and Gav does the glass and tin recycling in the recycling area near the Supermarket when he's going food shopping

poor Gav with all neems gin and wine bottles - he must be there ages getting disapproving glares from all the Cork Tradwives

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 09:34 AM
poor Gav with all neems gin and wine bottles - he must be there ages getting disapproving glares from all the Cork Tradwives

Port and Wine bottles* :hee:

user104658
21-01-2020, 10:05 AM
Its all about choice, I think there is a place for housewives and househusbands if that suits their lifestyle and they are fulfilled and happy, not everyone wants to do a 9 to 5 or wants to be a CEO or have a high powered job and this applies to men and women, some men/women are very happy to stay at home fulltime, I haven't worked full time for 22 years and I love it :hehe: and honestly at this point in time I think I could quite easily quit my job and never look back :laugh:

That's not so you can be a #tradwife though Cherie, that's so that you can spend all day long on here flirting shamelessly with young gay studs!

smudgie
21-01-2020, 10:21 AM
Each to their own.
I loved working, I loved staying at home with the kids.
Hubby worked shifts all his life and still helped around the house and babysat.
Now he has retired early, and become the househusband.
We have never considered ourselves anything other than equal:shrug:

Cherie
21-01-2020, 10:25 AM
That's not so you can be a #tradwife though Cherie, that's so that you can spend all day long on here flirting shamelessly with young gay studs!

:laugh: that so true, I won't suddenly turn into someone who bakes :oh:

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 10:25 AM
Each to their own.
I loved working, I loved staying at home with the kids.
Hubby worked shifts all his life and still helped around the house and babysat.
Now he has retired early, and become the househusband.
We have never considered ourselves anything other than equal:shrug:

I think a good relationship doesn't have set unmovable roles, you roll with the punches and adapt as is necessary, I worked part time until Luke started school because it suited us and our jobs at that time, when I went back full time Gav was in a different more flexible job so he was around the house and with the kids more, you work together and do what makes most sense at any particular time :love:

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 10:32 AM
We have well-defined roles

The TL makes a mess and I clean it up

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 10:32 AM
We have well-defined roles

The TL makes a mess and I clean it up

:laugh:

Cherie
21-01-2020, 11:18 AM
We have well-defined roles

The TL makes a mess and I clean it up

:laugh:

Twosugars
21-01-2020, 11:43 AM
I bet womenfolk are quaking in their boots bc a few of them enjoy being masochists :laugh:

Tom4784
21-01-2020, 11:47 AM
Feminism is all about choice at the end of the day and making sure that women have the same choices that men do. If a woman wants to be a homemaker then that's as valid as them seeking another path because it's their choice but relationships aren't about being subservient to the other person, that's just got all the signs of an unhealthy and toxic relationship.

I don't think relationships can work if they are unequal. It'll never work if one person has a position of power over the other.

arista
21-01-2020, 11:52 AM
Yes Some
Women like to go back in time.

Sexy Women - as well

Kizzy
21-01-2020, 12:13 PM
A traditional new right sociological perspective from a right wing newspaper ...shocker.

Of course there are women who are subservient, the difference is now thanks to pioneering women it's a choice not an expectation.

Livia
21-01-2020, 12:15 PM
I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to tell other women how they should live their lives. It's entirely up to them.

arista
21-01-2020, 12:18 PM
I wouldn't be so presumptuous as to tell other women how they should live their lives. It's entirely up to them.


Yes these women
are happy
living in the past.

Marsh.
21-01-2020, 12:35 PM
Yes these women
are happy
living in the past.

No, they're living now. Where they made a choice, they're not expected to do anything other than what they want to do.

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 12:37 PM
What exactly are feminists supposed to "BEWARE" of btw, are these women planning on forcing every other woman to be like them or............?

Livia
21-01-2020, 12:44 PM
Surely that's the very opposite of what women want? To make their own choice of how they live their life.

arista
21-01-2020, 01:19 PM
No, they're living now. Where they made a choice, they're not expected to do anything other than what they want to do.


Yes they are
but in a Sexy Style of the Past

arista
21-01-2020, 01:22 PM
What exactly are feminists supposed to "BEWARE" of btw, are these women planning on forcing every other woman to be like them or............?



Yes I understand LT there
In the USA
some Feminists can not handle
this more pleasant way of life

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 01:23 PM
Yes I understand LT there
In the USA
some Feminists can not handle
this more pleasant way of life

Stop being so sexist Arista, it's really off putting

arista
21-01-2020, 01:42 PM
Stop being so sexist Arista, it's really off putting

I am not
I observe

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 01:45 PM
I am not
I observe

You are. You observe what exactly? Stop talking in riddles and say what you mean. what you posted didn't answer the question I was asking, it was a derogatory comment about women.

Jessica.
21-01-2020, 01:46 PM
I don't think there's anything wrong with it because it's their choice.

user104658
21-01-2020, 02:01 PM
Tbf I guess the "beware" is that they're advocating subservience to men as a valid (or even desirable) life choice and whilst, yes, that is an INDIVIDUAL prerogative, the problem comes when men (especially impressionable young men) hear it and decide that that is, indeed, what is to be expected of the women in their lives?

So by all means #tradwives live how you want, and however is right for you, but don't pushbit as being "more right for most" than other choices which does appear to be happening here a bit. Inevitable really. Everyone wants to validate their own choice as "the best one".

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 02:04 PM
Tbf I guess the "beware" is that they're advocating subservience to men as a valid (or even desirable) life choice and whilst, yes, that is an INDIVIDUAL prerogative, the problem comes when men (especially impressionable young men) hear it and decide that that is, indeed, what is to be expected of the women in their lives?

So by all means #tradwives live how you want, and however is right for you, but don't pushbit as being "more right for most" than other choices which does appear to be happening here a bit. Inevitable really. Everyone wants to validate their own choice as "the best one".

Yes, read Aristas comments for proof of that but he's old enough to know better, I would assume

arista
21-01-2020, 02:50 PM
You are. You observe what exactly? Stop talking in riddles and say what you mean. what you posted didn't answer the question I was asking, it was a derogatory comment about women.


But these Fine Women
have chosen that lifestyle.

That's what I mean

arista
21-01-2020, 02:52 PM
I don't think there's anything wrong with it because it's their choice.


You Are Most Wise Jess

Elliot
21-01-2020, 02:53 PM
I absolutely 100% support people to chose whatever lifestyle they wish. The keyword here is chose. I hate when stuff like this is run because certain people cling to it as a clear example of how this lifestyle is better and that society would be much happier if traditions were restored.

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 02:53 PM
But these Fine Women
have chosen that lifestyle.

That's what I mean

That wasn't answering the question I asked

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 02:54 PM
I absolutely 100% support people to chose whatever lifestyle they wish. The keyword here is chose. I hate when stuff like this is run because certain people cling to it as a clear example of how this lifestyle is better and that society would be much happier if traditions were restored.

Yeah, seems like the world is going backwards in alot of ways recently

Oliver_W
21-01-2020, 03:02 PM
Arrangements like this are better for the children, as long as the single-income doesn't mean they live in a hovel.

But I don't see how this is a FEMINISTS BEWARE thing, they have a choice.

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 03:08 PM
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Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 03:11 PM
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Niamh.
21-01-2020, 03:11 PM
"submitting" to their husbands just makes it sound weird and almost like some sort of a fetish. What does that even mean, they are saying men are better than them or should be in charge? That's different to being a stay at home parent

arista
21-01-2020, 03:25 PM
Yes LT
The Husband Works Hard
so his Wife can look after the Children , better

All Logical

arista
21-01-2020, 03:26 PM
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Yes good on BBCnewsHD
to show this better way

arista
21-01-2020, 03:30 PM
That wasn't answering the question I asked


Not sure what you are on about,
with respect.

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 03:33 PM
Not sure what you are on about,
with respect.

You don't respect me, don't lie

arista
21-01-2020, 03:34 PM
You don't respect me, don't lie


I do respect you
I love your Spirit.

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 03:36 PM
I do respect you
I love your Spirit.

No you don't, you think I'm inferior to you as a woman so you can't possibly respect me

Cherie
21-01-2020, 03:37 PM
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What on earth is that comparrisin thing :umm2:

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 03:42 PM
What on earth is that comparrisin thing :umm2:

You either submit to the man or you're a dirty tramp...or something like that

Twosugars
21-01-2020, 03:43 PM
What exactly are feminists supposed to "BEWARE" of btw, are these women planning on forcing every other woman to be like them or............?

It's a baiting title, made to bait.
Unsurprising tbh

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 03:44 PM
You either submit to the man or you're a dirty tramp...or something like that

no she isnt dirty just plump from eating badly and too much makeup

but its just a guide

Cherie
21-01-2020, 03:46 PM
You either submit to the man or you're a dirty tramp...or something like that

Thats some ****

Niamh.
21-01-2020, 03:46 PM
no she isnt dirty just plump from eating badly and too much makeup

but its just a guide

So submit to a man or you will get plump from eating badly? Umm ok :pat:

Cherie
21-01-2020, 03:49 PM
So submit to a man or you will get plump from eating badly? Umm ok :pat:

:joker:

Twosugars
21-01-2020, 03:50 PM
"Is only attracted to black men"
"Aborted her baby"
"Works minimum wage job"


Jesus. Who needs incel forums when we have tibb propagating this vile ****

arista
21-01-2020, 03:53 PM
No you don't, you think I'm inferior to you as a woman so you can't possibly respect me


Not at all.
You Are Great Mother
Respect To You

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 03:58 PM
"Is only attracted to black men"
"Aborted her baby"
"Works minimum wage job"


Jesus. Who needs incel forums when we have tibb propagating this vile ****

you obviously did not read the tweets posted by Bandit

go back and look again

Cherie
21-01-2020, 03:58 PM
"Is only attracted to black men"
"Aborted her baby"
"Works minimum wage job"


Jesus. Who needs incel forums when we have tibb propagating this vile ****



I find it quite interesting tbh ...do we need to be wrapped in cotton wool on TiBB

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 03:59 PM
So submit to a man or you will get plump from eating badly? Umm ok :pat:

I am looking at the same guide as you but as i said to sugar. the tweets criticize the guide and the BBC article

they are not promoting it

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 04:01 PM
this woman is popular in the Tradwife community Here her video is about "Greeting Him"

and no its not a before and after video

gRH5ZUbE7mI

Liam-
21-01-2020, 04:03 PM
Women are wonderful beings and should be treated so, got to be honest, I personally feel that any woman that chooses to be subservient to a man, has probably seen such practices through their life around them, would anybody really choose to have a partner that is essentially, their boss?

Cherie
21-01-2020, 04:25 PM
The subservience is an odd one, was it Diana introduced ‘obey’ into her marriage vows, not for me, I never took Mr Cs name either :hmph:

Twosugars
21-01-2020, 04:31 PM
I find it quite interesting tbh ...do we need to be wrapped in cotton wool on TiBB

Then read it in your own time.

I choose to call it when far right content is snuck onto here as a mainstream topic for discussion.

AnnieK
21-01-2020, 04:45 PM
Not at all.
You Are Great Mother
Respect To You

Would you call LT a good Father when you were expressing your respect for him? Or a good man?(sorry LT, just using you as you are both male and a father). Why does your respect for Niamh just have to do with the fact that she is a mother rather than a woman? Being a mother doesn't define most women

Cherie
21-01-2020, 04:57 PM
Then read it in your own time.

I choose to call it when far right content is snuck onto here as a mainstream topic for discussion.

And? better to get it out in the open, the article is from the BBC fgs

arista
21-01-2020, 04:57 PM
Would you call LT a good Father when you were expressing your respect for him? Or a good man?(sorry LT, just using you as you are both male and a father). Why does your respect for Niamh just have to do with the fact that she is a mother rather than a woman? Being a mother doesn't define most women


Yes LT
has a Kid
he is Good Father.

Being a Good Mother is Hard
Respect to that.

Marsh.
21-01-2020, 04:57 PM
Arrangements like this are better for the children, as long as the single-income doesn't mean they live in a hovel.

Wives submitting to their husbands is better for the children?

Since when?

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2020, 05:02 PM
Yes LT
has a Kid
he is Good Father.

Being a Good Mother is Hard
Respect to that.

Arista is most wise

bots
21-01-2020, 05:22 PM
Some people (male or female) prefer their partner to make big decisions on their behalf. It's not that rare. Any couple work on a symbiotic basis, taking advantage of each others strengths. The fact some people choose to perform certain roles is just not an issue for feminism

AnnieK
21-01-2020, 07:30 PM
Some people (male or female) prefer their partner to make big decisions on their behalf. It's not that rare. Any couple work on a symbiotic basis, taking advantage of each others strengths. The fact some people choose to perform certain roles is just not an issue for feminism

I agree this happens....its a nightmare though. My mum looked after all the household finances, cooking etc etc and when she passed my dad was in a terrible mess.....he literally had no clue how to pay a bill....let alone cook for himself. He needed some intensive lessons on how to run his life.....my mum did everything, he even needed telling gow to change a plug. Partnership is everything but you've also got to know your partners roles too

Marsh.
21-01-2020, 07:50 PM
I agree this happens....its a nightmare though. My mum looked after all the household finances, cooking etc etc and when she passed my dad was in a terrible mess.....he literally had no clue how to pay a bill....let alone cook for himself. He needed some intensive lessons on how to run his life.....my mum did everything, he even needed telling gow to change a plug. Partnership is everything but you've also got to know your partners roles too

This tbh.

It's fine to work as a team and each have their "roles" they do, but relying solely on another person to do things isn't a good step.

Redway
21-01-2020, 09:09 PM
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Are you really that racist?

Mystic Mock
21-01-2020, 09:17 PM
It sounds a bit extreme to me personally.

But as long as women get a choice on this lifestyle then I don't care if the movement exists, if it tries to go any further however then that's a different story.

Livia
22-01-2020, 10:16 AM
There are hundreds of thousands of Asian women living in the UK who are "tradwives" without any choice at all. They're the women I'm concerned about, not women who rightfully choose to be a traditional wife and mother.

user104658
22-01-2020, 12:53 PM
There are hundreds of thousands of Asian women living in the UK who are "tradwives" without any choice at all. They're the women I'm concerned about, not women who rightfully choose to be a traditional wife and mother.

Hmm I'm not convinced that this #tradwife thing is really about women just choosing to be a stay at home wife/mother though. The intent seems to be to have a go at anyone who ISN'T doing that.

Crimson Dynamo
22-01-2020, 01:08 PM
Hmm I'm not convinced that this #tradwife thing is really about women just choosing to be a stay at home wife/mother though. The intent seems to be to have a go at anyone who ISN'T doing that.

Dont you come for Mrs HINCH

:oh:

Cherie
22-01-2020, 01:12 PM
Hmm I'm not convinced that this #tradwife thing is really about women just choosing to be a stay at home wife/mother though. The intent seems to be to have a go at anyone who ISN'T doing that.

maybe its just the world tilting, because for years, women and men who did stay home full time to look after the kids were looked down on?

Crimson Dynamo
22-01-2020, 01:18 PM
would a woman even describe herself as a "housewife" now?

Redway
22-01-2020, 01:20 PM
would a woman even describe herself as a "housewife" now?

Why should she?

Cherie
22-01-2020, 01:21 PM
would a woman even describe herself as a "housewife" now?

Not sure, you hear of househusbands so why not? I think the general term is stay at home Mums

Niamh.
22-01-2020, 01:22 PM
would a woman even describe herself as a "housewife" now?

Stay at home mother/father is the term used more widely these days, housewife sounds a bit odd, like you're married to your house

Crimson Dynamo
22-01-2020, 01:24 PM
Stay at home mother/father is the term used more widely these days, housewife sounds a bit odd, like you're married to your house

I guess it sounds better to say homemaker or I work from home

Niamh.
22-01-2020, 01:26 PM
I guess it sounds better to say homemaker or I work from home

Home maker is also a bit weird, like if you both work full time you have no home :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
22-01-2020, 01:30 PM
Home maker is also a bit weird, like if you both work full time you have no home :laugh:

Vice President of domestic affairs and consumables?

Niamh.
22-01-2020, 01:33 PM
Vice President of domestic affairs and consumables?

Only Vice?

Crimson Dynamo
22-01-2020, 01:40 PM
Only Vice?

well i thought president was to show-offy?

user104658
22-01-2020, 02:31 PM
maybe its just the world tilting, because for years, women and men who did stay home full time to look after the kids were looked down on?Do you mean a passive-aggressive backlash borne of ego and defensiveness? If so, yes I imagine it is that... The world is quite fond of that these days.

Cherie
22-01-2020, 02:47 PM
Do you mean a passive-aggressive backlash borne of ego and defensiveness? If so, yes I imagine it is that... The world is quite fond of that these days.

Well yes, its all tit for tat these days, I heard someone yesterday describe politics these days as people wanting to be on the winning side rather than voting for policies, I think it’s rather apt

Niamh.
22-01-2020, 02:51 PM
Well yes, its all tit for tat these days, I heard someone yesterday describe politics these days as people wanting to be on the winning side rather than voting for policies, I think it’s rather apt

100%. I don't get why people would be loyal to a political party either, I mean why? You don't owe these people anything, surely Policy is the the only part that affects you?

Cherie
22-01-2020, 02:58 PM
100%. I don't get why people would be loyal to a political party either, I mean why? You don't owe these people anything, surely Policy is the the only part that affects you?


makes no sense to me at all