Coca Cola will not change their Plastic Bottles to Glass.

[arista]

It would slow down Production
And Cost to much to change machines
in all World factory's.


Paxman is in the Papers
Angry at them.




Sign Of The Times.

[Livia]

And I will not buy their plastic bottles. Seems Coca Cola and I have reached an impasse.

[Niamh.]

If countries started banning plastic bottles entering the country they'd change their machines soon enough I think

[Calderyon]

I will still continue buying Coca Cola.

Even though soda tastes better from a glass bottle.

[Twosugars]

They should as glass can be recycled
They are a rich company, they should be able to afford it

[Nicky91]

you can re-use plastic too tbf

if your bottles are empty you can fill them with water, especially during hot summers this is quite nice to fill em with water, put them in refrigerator and you got nice cool water, also for those lemonades you only gotta fill up with water


we have re-cycled our plastic candy bucket too, to put new candy in it when it's empty, just wash it, during you wash dishes, cups and it's clean for newer candy

[arista]

If countries started banning plastic bottles entering the country they'd change their machines soon enough I think

India will not

[Niamh.]

India will not

So let India buy all their Coke then?

[arista]

They should as glass can be recycled
They are a rich company, they should be able to afford it



Yes it can be changed
But in Africa and India
its faster Production in Plastic.
And they are staying with Plastic.


No Nation has told Coca Cola to change

[bots]

plastic is lighter and safer for a kid to handle than glass. It has it's place. I think some people forget the big picture when considering the environment.

[arista]

you can re-use plastic too tbf

if your bottles are empty you can fill them with water, especially during hot summers this is quite nice to fill em with water, put them in refrigerator and you got nice cool water, also for those lemonades you only gotta fill up with water


we have re-cycled our plastic candy bucket too, to put new candy in it when it's empty, just wash it, during you wash dishes, cups and it's clean for newer candy


Of Course
but that's not the majority
as they chuck the bottle
which can end up in the sea

[arista]

plastic is lighter and safer for a kid to handle than glass. It has it's place. I think some people forget the big picture when considering the environment.



Good Point.

[Livia]

plastic is lighter and safer for a kid to handle than glass. It has it's place. I think some people forget the big picture when considering the environment.

Glass is heavier to transport, I know. But I used to buy two or three big bottles of diet coke every week, now I buy six small glass bottles. I think people are starting to question more where everything comes from and how much it took to get it here. I bloody hope so anyway!

[bots]

Glass is heavier to transport, I know. But I used to buy two or three big bottles of diet coke every week, now I buy six small glass bottles. I think people are starting to question more where everything comes from and how much it took to get it here. I bloody hope so anyway!

My lad sliced his wrist and arm really badly from broken glass when he took a fall playing football. When you see something like that, believe me, you would take plastic every time

[Niamh.]

plastic is lighter and safer for a kid to handle than glass. It has it's place. I think some people forget the big picture when considering the environment.

Kids survived fine before plastic bottles housed all the soft drinks. Also a kid who is too young to manage a bottle, is probably too young to be drinking coke as well tbf

[arista]

Glass is heavier to transport, I know. But I used to buy two or three big bottles of diet coke every week, now I buy six small glass bottles. I think people are starting to question more where everything comes from and how much it took to get it here. I bloody hope so anyway!


Yes Maybe in Big Supermarkets
they could have Large Glass Bottles
and Plastic

[MTVN]

Agree with bots - just imagine all the plastic bottles that get littered now being replaced with glass ones, broken glass in all our roads, pavements, parks etc and glass bottles being on all our towns litter bins :umm2:

Plus as she said, switching all their production to glass and aluminum would probably increase their carbon footprint because of how much more difficult they are to produce and transport

[Marsh.]

you can re-use plastic too tbf

if your bottles are empty you can fill them with water, especially during hot summers this is quite nice to fill em with water, put them in refrigerator and you got nice cool water, also for those lemonades you only gotta fill up with water


we have re-cycled our plastic candy bucket too, to put new candy in it when it's empty, just wash it, during you wash dishes, cups and it's clean for newer candy

Re-using single use plastic bottles is not a good idea.

Get yourself a proper re-useable bottle.

[Marsh.]

My lad sliced his wrist and arm really badly from broken glass when he took a fall playing football. When you see something like that, believe me, you would take plastic every time

Maybe the kids can have the recyclable aluminium cans?

[Niamh.]

Agree with bots - just imagine all the plastic bottles that get littered now being replaced with glass ones, broken glass in all our roads, pavements, parks etc and glass bottles being on all our towns litter bins :umm2:

Plus as she said, switching all their production to glass and aluminum would probably increase their carbon footprint because of how much more difficult they are to produce and transport

Plastic seems to be the biggest problem we have right now though, we can't keep on producing endless supplies of it with no way to re use it

[Niamh.]

Maybe the kids can have the recyclable aluminium cans?

Or just get rid of bottles totally and only use the recyclable cans, they could do different sizes

[Marsh.]

Or just get rid of bottles totally and only use the recyclable cans, they could do different sizes

Good idea.

And I think they already do. The have regular, tall thin ones and the tiny mixer ones.

[Niamh.]

Good idea.

And I think they already do. The have regular, tall thin ones and the tiny mixer ones.

I suppose they'd need some way to make resealable bigger cans though to replace 2 litre bottles but a great start would be just getting rid of the small, one person bottles

[Mitchell]

I’ve started only drinking the cans recently.

[Livia]

My lad sliced his wrist and arm really badly from broken glass when he took a fall playing football. When you see something like that, believe me, you would take plastic every time

God, yes... I can understand that. Hope he's okay.

[Livia]

Or just get rid of bottles totally and only use the recyclable cans, they could do different sizes

I could go for that idea.

[Niamh.]

I could go for that idea.

Coke from a can tastes nicer than from a plastic bottle too imo

[Niamh.]

My lad sliced his wrist and arm really badly from broken glass when he took a fall playing football. When you see something like that, believe me, you would take plastic every time

Cans then?

[smudgie]

Fizzy drinks were all sold in glass bottles 50/60 years ago, in Africa and over here. Mainly the larger bottles in Britain when I was a kid, and both sizes in Africa.


Edit to say, boycott the beggars.

[Tom4784]

It's utterly selfish of them to not move to another more environmentally friendly container. I hope this bites them in the arse before it bites everyone.

[arista]

It's utterly selfish of them to not move to another more environmentally friendly container. I hope this bites them in the arse before it bites everyone.


But Dezzy
Glass is Dangerous
Plastic is not.

Coca Cola do many soft drinks
Massive Factory's in many nation's
they are staying with Plastic
that can recycled
but so many do not.

[Scarlett.]

But Dezzy
Glass is Dangerous
Plastic is not.

Tell that to the sealife dying out from our waste

[Niamh.]

Tell that to the sealife dying out from our waste

Indeed

[James]

Let's be honest, plastic is much more convenient than glass, and if Coca Cola switched their bottles to all glass their sales would probably drop dramatically.

[arista]

Let's be honest, plastic is much more convenient than glass, and if Coca Cola switched their bottles to all glass their sales would probably drop dramatically.


Yes that's the reason the CEO
James R. B. Quincey is a British businessman
in the United States.
and in Davos
is staying with Plastic.

[arista]

Tell that to the sealife dying out from our waste


Yes Asia Nation's dumping Rubbish near the Sea
do not care.
The Damage is done.


But in Our Zones
we Recycle

[James]

I do often take a cup of tea in a travel mug out with me, instead of getting a drink in a disposable cup.

I looked up some information about plastic in the oceans.


Scientists affiliated with The Ocean Cleanup, a group working to reduce plastic pollution, determined that, by weight, fishing nets make up at least 46 per cent of the plastic in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, a floating pile of rubbish that’s three times the size of France.


From https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/08/the-real-threat-to-the-ocean-is-the-fish-on-your-plate-not-the-straw-in-your-drink-9856337/


By analyzing the waste found in the rivers and surrounding landscape, researchers were able to estimate that just 10 river systems carry 90% of the plastic that ends up in the ocean.

Eight of them are in Asia: the Yangtze; Indus; Yellow; Hai He; Ganges; Pearl; Amur; Mekong; and two in Africa – the Nile and the Niger.


https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/90-of-plastic-polluting-our-oceans-comes-from-just-10-rivers/

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/12211.jpeg

https://www.statista.com/chart/12211/the-countries-polluting-the-oceans-the-most/

[AnnieK]

I've just been reading a debate on this on LinkedIn.....people are pretty incensed about it. This was the debate starter:

Coca-Cola won't bin plastic bottles

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Coca-Cola will not bin single-use plastic bottles because customers still want them, the firm’s head of sustainability told the BBC. In 2019, the drinks giant produced about three million tonnes of plastic packaging — equivalent to 200,000 bottles a minute — making it one of the world’s biggest plastic waste polluters. “Business won’t be in business if we don’t accommodate consumers,” Bea Perez told the World Economic Forum in Davos, saying that relegating plastic outright would hurt sales. Coke has pledged to recycle as many plastic bottles as it uses by 2030.

[Niamh.]

Let's be honest, plastic is much more convenient than glass, and if Coca Cola switched their bottles to all glass their sales would probably drop dramatically.

Of course plastic is more convenient than glass but we need to drastically decrease it's use, we are killing the ocean.

[James]

There was a cafe in my town that used to sell the old school Coca Cola glass bottles - it tasted better out of glass.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/ec41f32f6e503fa81b77e6adec996938/tumblr_n5qht8XHJn1rsum20o1_500.jpg

[user104658]

The elephant in the room of course, is that whilst not quite as bad as plastic... glass isn't actually environmentally friendly at all.

[Niamh.]

There was a cafe in my town that used to sell the old school Coca Cola glass bottles - it tasted better out of glass.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/ec41f32f6e503fa81b77e6adec996938/tumblr_n5qht8XHJn1rsum20o1_500.jpg

Definitely did. Alot of the Pubs here do glass bottles of coke but they're smaller than usual

[Niamh.]

The elephant in the room of course, is that whilst not quite as bad as plastic... glass isn't actually environmentally friendly at all.

Can that not be reused though, like they did years ago, they'd add a few cents onto the price and when you returned the bottle you'd get it back. Of course lots of people wouldn't still but then you would have the entrepreneurs gathering up un returned bottles to claim a tidy profit

[Cherie]

I don’t drink it, awful stuff ..tbh if people cant be arsed to recycle plastic in the face of a crises, I don’t know how many would be bothered to take back a bottle to a shop for 10p these days so its probably much of a muchness

[Kizzy]

The elephant in the room of course, is that whilst not quite as bad as plastic... glass isn't actually environmentally friendly at all.

Can we have an explanation of why?

[Zizu]

It would slow down Production

And Cost to much to change machines

in all World factory's.





Paxman is in the Papers

Angry at them.









Sign Of The Times.



We could change that by not buying their stuff...




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[Kizzy]

Well that's a good point, as consumers we could voice our displeasure by not using the product in the hope that they will listen?

[arista]

Pepsi are the Same
Sticking with Plastic bottles


When Coca Cola USA brought out
Coca Cola 2
it was very much like Pepsi.

[Cherie]

or maybe as consumers we should dispose of any plastic we buy in a responsible way, what would happen if they change to glass, would consumers suddenly dispose of them responsibly because they are glass?

[user104658]

Can we have an explanation of why?It's energy (and thus carbon) intensive to smelt sand into glass, and the amount of sand needed to fulfil the world glass needs even NOW is causing coastline erosion. If plastic was totally replaced by glass, you'd be tripling-or-more the glass production requirements.

Its also significantly heavier than plastic, which means you need more vehicles (at least double) to ship the same volume of produce, which again adds to emissions.

The argument is that it can be recycled or reused and is therefore better, but there wouldn't be a problem with plastic if people were recycling it. The reason that it's a problem is that people are NOT recycling. Why would anyone think people are suddenly going to start recycling glass?

Its marginally better in the short term because of the immediate threat that plastics pose to the ocean, but glass as a long term solution just isn't sensible or viable.

[Oliver_W]

I do often take a cup of tea in a travel mug out with me, instead of getting a drink in a disposable cup.

I looked up some information about plastic in the oceans.



From https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/08/the-real-threat-to-the-ocean-is-the-fish-on-your-plate-not-the-straw-in-your-drink-9856337/



https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/06/90-of-plastic-polluting-our-oceans-comes-from-just-10-rivers/

https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/12211.jpeg

https://www.statista.com/chart/12211/the-countries-polluting-the-oceans-the-most/

So next time a seal chokes to death on your plastic waste, you won't mind vecause our country doesn't dump as much as a much more populous country elsewhere!

[user104658]

So next time a seal chokes to death on your plastic waste, you won't mind vecause our country doesn't dump as much as a much more populous country elsewhere!

It's an inconvenient truth to point out that there's shyt-all we can do about things like plastic pollution and emissions. I know people want to feel like they're contributing something but honestly... Tesco getting rid of their plastic bags or Betty down the road switching from her diesel engine to a hybrid is :shrug: ... nothing.

We rely on manufacturing economies. Manufacturing economies are not going to stop polluting. Expecting any meaningful change on that front is an utterly insane level of optimism... you might as well write a letter to Santa asking him to clean up the ocean. I've said before and I'll say again... there are two options for what is going to happen:

1) We kick up the research and try to develop advanced technological solutions for cleaning up after ourselves, dissolving plastics, cleaning the air, etc. so that it doesn't matter that we're still dirty as **** - we can clean it up.

2) We don't figure out how to clean it up and it's game over.

Option 3 where we "stop creating" planet-busting pollution, does not reasonably exist.

[Oliver_W]

It's an inconvenient truth to point out that there's shyt-all we can do about things like plastic pollution and emissions. I know people want to feel like they're contributing something but honestly... Tesco getting rid of their plastic bags or Betty down the road switching from her diesel engine to a hybrid is :shrug: ... nothing.

We rely on manufacturing economies. Manufacturing economies are not going to stop polluting. Expecting any meaningful change on that front is an utterly insane level of optimism... you might as well write a letter to Santa asking him to clean up the ocean. I've said before and I'll say again... there are two options for what is going to happen:

1) We kick up the research and try to develop advanced technological solutions for cleaning up after ourselves, dissolving plastics, cleaning the air, etc. so that it doesn't matter that we're still dirty as **** - we can clean it up.

2) We don't figure out how to clean it up and it's game over.

Option 3 where we "stop creating" planet-busting pollution, does not reasonably exist.

I know, but when it comes to the environment I'm a bit of an idealist :laugh:

Like someone upthread said, replacing plastic bottles with different sizes of recyclable cans might be an idea. Or even maybe only have the standard size cans! Having less sugar wouldn't hurt!

[Kizzy]

or maybe as consumers we should dispose of any plastic we buy in a responsible way, what would happen if they change to glass, would consumers suddenly dispose of them responsibly because they are glass?

Do you know what happens to our plastic waste? We ship it to Malaysia and they ship it straight back ..... after that I have no idea.

[Kizzy]

So next time a seal chokes to death on your plastic waste, you won't mind vecause our country doesn't dump as much as a much more populous country elsewhere!

Yeah pollution top trumps is every world leaders favourite game, didn't you know?

[Kizzy]

It's energy (and thus carbon) intensive to smelt sand into glass, and the amount of sand needed to fulfil the world glass needs even NOW is causing coastline erosion. If plastic was totally replaced by glass, you'd be tripling-or-more the glass production requirements.

Its also significantly heavier than plastic, which means you need more vehicles (at least double) to ship the same volume of produce, which again adds to emissions.

The argument is that it can be recycled or reused and is therefore better, but there wouldn't be a problem with plastic if people were recycling it. The reason that it's a problem is that people are NOT recycling. Why would anyone think people are suddenly going to start recycling glass?

Its marginally better in the short term because of the immediate threat that plastics pose to the ocean, but glass as a long term solution just isn't sensible or viable.

There may be energy saving smelting methods, for a young bloke you sound very negative about the future and our sustainability, luckily there are innovative people looking for solutions to the world's problems let's have a bit of faith eh?

Greener transport could offset the costs of shipping, lower consumption, use other products like recycled card for packaging .. there are many ways to make small changes that may have a big impact.

Many do recycle, incentives as said like money of more products could well work or cause others to benefit from the scheme. I remember when aluminium recycling was popular it worked out a penny a can or something, there were people walking around picking them off the streets rooting in bins. Where there's muck there's brass!

It may not be THE solution but it is A solution. Rome wasn't built, destroyed and rebuilt in a day.