The next Democrat leader

[Oliver_W]

For those in or interested in the USA ...

Who do you think should be the next Democrat leader, for the 2020 elections?

I'd say either Tulsi or Bernie, if the aim is to remove Trump.

Warren is just a liar, and basically a Bernie ripoff. Mayor Buttboy seems sketchy, because he completely fabricated the black support he claimed to have.

Tulsi and Bernie are both non-establishment, and while they're from different "factions" of the left, they're still better than the other candidates, past and present.

I like how scared some of the others are of Tulsi. Harris criticised her for talking to Trump about his foreign policies, and in the same debate said one of her own good points was that she can speak with both sides :laugh: (or was that Warren?)

Hillary Clinton seemed to think "no-one in Washington likes Bernie" was a burn, but being non-establishment is part of his appeal!

[Liam-]

Bernie, he’s the only truly consistent one left in the race, he never wavers on his beliefs and his promises and I believe him to be the most honest of the lineup, his numbers are great, he’s leading in many places by a good margin, even in the southern and mid states he’s doing well

[MB.]

The presidential nominee doesn't become party leader, the system doesn't work like that

(but Bernie)

[Moniqua]

Bernie followed by Warren

[Nick.]

Lizzie Warren

(Almost anyone but ****ing Tulsi Gabbard)

[bots]

Tulsi is a russian agent, and Bernie isn't capable of getting the votes of those in the middle ground, so neither

[arista]

Lizzie Warren

(Almost anyone but ****ing Tulsi Gabbard)

She is out of the Race

[Elliot]

Bernie >>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Nicky91]

Elizabeth Warren

we need a first female u.s president, and take down the super rich in america

[arista]

Elizabeth Warren

we need a first female u.s president, and take down the super rich in America


No they want a Man

[Oliver_W]

Tulsi is a russian agent

:laugh: yeah,of course she is.

What is it with American politics and fake claims about Russia?

[Tom4784]

Only Bernie has a chance of truly beating Trump, I think. He needs the nomination.

None of the smear tactics against employed against Bernie by the media has worked and if you stick him in a debate with Trump, Bernie would tear him to pieces. The reason why Trump won last time is because his lies swung enough of the unions and working class to his side but Bernie is likely to snatch 'em back since he has a lot of support from former Trump voters because the numbers generally back up Bernie's campaign promises and goals.

Biden would be a disaster, Hillary 2.0. If he ends up getting the nomination, Trump will win again since he can deploy the same mudslinging tactics against Biden as he did with Hillary.

Warren would be better than Biden but Trump will go in hard on the 'Pocahontas' thing and I think a lot of voters would rally against her in the same way they did against Hillary.

Mayor Pete would be catastrophic. He's a terrible candidate who doesn't track well with important minority votes and he's basically a republican but that won't help him snatch votes away from Trump since the bible belt and homophobes will rally to Trump because of Pete's sexuality. Terrible policies and an easy target for Trump to use underhanded tactics against.

[Tom4784]

:laugh: yeah,of course she is.

What is it with American politics and fake claims about Russia?

I think it holds water but she's not a willing agent. I think she's being set up as the next Jill Stein tbh. She's not working with anyone but Russia are definitely pushing her as a potential independent candidate to weaken the eventual Democratic candidate.

[Oliver_W]

Bernie would definitely destroy Trump in debates. In the primaries etc while the other candidates were bitching about Trump and his twitter, he was talking about policy. He actually has things to say, unlike most of them.

Warren lied about being a Native, she lied about Bernie saying that a woman could never be president ...
I knoooowwww,"politicians lie, SACRE BLEU" ... But one is lying about her identity for her own advantage, the other is an outright smear.
Plus she sounds exactly like the Junk Goblin from Labyrinth.

[Tom4784]

Bernie would definitely destroy Trump in debates. In the primaries etc while the other candidates were bitching about Trump and his twitter, he was talking about policy. He actually has things to say, unlike most of them.

Warren lied about being a Native, she lied about Bernie saying that a woman could never be president ...
I knoooowwww,"politicians lie, SACRE BLEU" ... But one is lying about her identity for her own advantage, the other is an outright smear.
Plus she sounds exactly like the Junk Goblin from Labyrinth.

It's a shame really, her policies are really good but she's too easy for the republicans to smear and destroy and she hasn't helped her case with underhanded tactics towards Bernie when people responded better to them both being on the same page.

[Oliver_W]

I think it holds water but she's not a willing agent. I think she's being set up as the next Jill Stein tbh. She's not working with anyone but Russia are definitely pushing her as a potential independent candidate to weaken the eventual Democratic candidate.
Hmm, the thing about Russia accusations is they've become a bit of a "meme", without solid proof they should be held back, lest people just roll their eyes. That other guy even got asked what would he the first thing he'd say when Putin phoned him :laugh:

It's a shame really, her policies are really good but she's too easy for the republicans to smear and destroy and she hasn't helped her case with underhanded tactics towards Bernie when people responded better to them both being on the same page.
To be fair I see smears and underhanded tactics the same way as lies - "politicians gonna politish", so I'm not going to hold it against her, and while she and Bernie do have similar politics I prefer Bernie brand?

[GoldHeart]

I've always stuck with Bernie, I was devastated when he was out of the running in the last election :facepalm:.

Poor guy now looks exhausted, hope he gets more support for the next election :fc: .

[Oliver_W]

I've always stuck with Bernie, I was devastated when he was out of the running in the last election :facepalm:.

Poor guy now looks exhausted, hope he gets more support for the next election :fc: .
Next? As far as i know he's still in the running!

[GiRTh]

hhBNoSKa6H0Theres always Klobuchar :umm2:

Secretary Clinton embarrassed herself with her recent Bernie bashing. Bernies now tops the poll so dont rule out more meddling by the Dem establishment. Her 'No one likes Bernie' comment as been pointed out will work in his favour. Bernie is the most popular senator for the sixth year running so Secretary Clintons comments show she's completely out of touch with the population.

Poll Finds Bernie Sanders Is Most Popular Politician In America (https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/bernie-sanders-popular-politician_n_58f921f2e4b018a9ce599bde)

[Firewire]

I love Liz!

But Bernie is the one they need to go with.

[Oliver_W]

https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/78/590x/secondary/US-news-2215974.jpg?r=1576343178478

[arista]

Do not post Losers

[James]

They were talking on the radio about how the Iowa caucuses primary tonight works. It sounded quite quaint.


The Iowa caucuses operate very differently from the primary election used by most other states (see U.S. presidential primary). The caucuses are generally defined as "gatherings of neighbors". Rather than going to polls and casting ballots, Iowans gather at a set location in each of Iowa's 1,681 precincts. Typically, these meetings occur in schools, churches, public libraries, or even individuals' houses. Caucuses are held every two years, during both the presidential and midterm election seasons, but those that receive national attention are the presidential preference caucuses, held every four years. The rules of the caucus process to determine delegates to national conventions are determined by the party, and differ substantially between the Democratic and Republican Parties.....

.....Democratic Party

Each precinct divides its delegate seats among the candidates in proportion to caucus goers' votes. Participants indicate their support for a particular candidate by standing in a designated area of the caucus site (forming a preference group). An area may also be designated for undecided participants. Then, for roughly 30 minutes, participants try to convince their neighbors to support their candidates. Each preference group might informally deputize a few members to recruit supporters from the other groups and, in particular, from among those undecided. Undecided participants might visit each preference group to ask its members about their candidate.

After 30 minutes, the electioneering is temporarily halted, and the supporters for each candidate are counted. At this point, the caucus officials determine which candidates are viable. Depending on the number of county delegates to be elected, the viability threshold is 15% of attendees. For a candidate to receive any delegates from a particular precinct, he or she must have the support of at least the percentage of participants required by the viability threshold. Once viability is determined, participants have roughly another 30 minutes to realign: the supporters of inviable candidates may find a viable candidate to support, join together with supporters of another inviable candidate to secure a delegate for one of the two, or abstain. This realignment is a crucial distinction of caucuses in that (unlike in a primary) a voter's second choice can help a candidate.

When the voting is closed, a final head count is conducted, and each precinct apportions delegates to the county convention. These numbers are reported to the state party, which counts the total number of delegates for each candidate and reports the results to the media. Most of the participants go home, leaving a few to finish the business of the caucus: each preference group elects its delegates, and then the groups reconvene to elect local party officers and discuss the platform. The delegates chosen by the precinct then go to a later caucus, the county convention, to choose delegates to the district convention and state convention. Most of the delegates to the Democratic National Convention are selected at the district convention, with the remaining ones selected at the state convention. Delegates to each level of convention are initially bound to support their chosen candidate but can later switch in a process very similar to what occurs at the precinct level; however, as major shifts in delegate support are rare, the media declares the candidate with the most delegates on the precinct caucus night the winner, and relatively little attention is paid to the later caucuses.....


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses

So no secret ballot, and anyone that can't attend during the hour-long process can't vote.

[Scarlett.]

Hopefully Bernie

[MB.]

#hotgirlsforbernie

[arista]

Trump wants Bernie

[MB.]

The results are apparently not being announced tonight (which is a whole mess in itself), but for some reason Pete Buttigieg just declared himself victorious anyway :skull:

[Ammi]

...has Pete Buttigieg come from nowhere for the finishing line...he’s like someone who was never in the race, but he just ran onto the pitch/track near the end, type thing...to get his photo taken..?.../..like a photobomb person...who is Pete Buttigieg...do we like him, MB..should we stan..?....

[MB.]

Let's put it this way: if Pete Buttigieg were your neighbour, and you were throwing a party, he'd ask you to turn the music down and then call the police on you for serving too spicy a hummus

[Ammi]

...:laugh:...he might be right about the hummus...the Mary Berry spiced carrot one gives quite the illegal kick...Mary B bringing all the policeman to her yard..

[MB.]

Honestly if Mary Berry won the Iowa caucus at this point I'd be happy

[MB.]

I would also accept Mary J. Blige, Mary Jo Buttafuoco or Tesco Mary from The X Factor

[Ammi]

...you can take our Meghan..sort of/over in Canada a little way...but you can never take our Mary..(..or her spicy hummus..)...

[GoldHeart]

In an ideal world Bernie, but i don't think he'll win but :fc:

[Alf]

The Democrats screwed up an impeachment and now a caucus.

Next up, they try to boil water.

[arista]

The Democrats screwed up an impeachment and now a caucus.

Next up, they try to boil water.


Yes they are Pathetic

I deleted all the Live CNN HD overnight garbage
I recorded.

As I awoke at 5AM to find
they counted wrong
or some other bugger UP


Tonight Trump Is Live
with that old hag sitting behind him

[arista]

...has Pete Buttigieg come from nowhere for the finishing line...he’s like someone who was never in the race, but he just ran onto the pitch/track near the end, type thing...to get his photo taken..?.../..like a photobomb person...who is Pete Buttigieg...do we like him, MB..should we stan..?....

No.

[Liam-]

Tonight Trump Is Live
with that old hag sitting behind him

God, you’re not even trying to hide your misogyny now are you?

[arista]

3 of the results had errors
Pathetic.

[arista]

God, you’re not even trying to hide your misogyny now are you?



Calling a USA Politician a Hag
why is that a Problem~?????????????????????
Liam

[bots]

Calling a USA Politician a Hag
why is that a Problem~?????????????????????
Liam

because you always use inflammatory terms when you describe women of any age, but don't do the same with men

[arista]

because you always use inflammatory terms when you describe women of any age, but don't do the same with men


Rubbish
On the Wrestling thread
I have a go at Real Old Vince

[Tom4784]

You have an issue with women that don't step in line with your views, Arista. That much is clear to see and even with the ones you do like, there's always some sort of creepy term aimed at them.

[Alf]

You have an issue with women that don't step in line with your views, Arista. That much is clear to see and even with the ones you do like, there's always some sort of creepy term aimed at them.It's really not the end of the World. It's just Arista being Arista. He means no harm and he can't do you any harm.

[arista]

It's really not the end of the World. It's just Arista being Arista. He means no harm and he can't do you any harm.

Yes I am only using that word
for a Horrible USA Politician

No one else

[Nicky91]

i saw on our dutch breakfast news, and our political correspondent there in the US, Erik Mouthaan said even though there are no results, clear favourites in Iowa were Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren

[arista]

i saw on our dutch breakfast news, and our political correspondent there in the US, Erik Mouthaan said even though there are no results, clear favourites in Iowa were Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren


More Like Saunders
and Sleepy Biden

[bots]

for a party that wants to regain the presidency it is a complete farce.

I'm glad i'm not an american because the democratic choices are dire. The american public is much more "conservative" with a small C than we are here in the UK, so from where i'm standing, Trump will be re-elected easily. If Trump gets another 4 years, it's unlikely america will recover in a generation

[arista]

CNN HD Live says results are 2Hours 15mins

[GoldHeart]

If Biden wins then might aswell give up now :bored: , come through Bernie :fc:.

[Liam-]

Looks like Bernie could be in for a comfortable win

[GoldHeart]

Looks like Bernie could be in for a comfortable win

I hope to god he wins :fc:

[arista]

The Delay is all because
they added a New App to Phones
and that failed.

So back to counting by hand.


Re: Ch4HDnews


They said today is only half the results?
in just under 2hours

[GoldHeart]

FFS Biden is going to win :facepalm:

[GiRTh]

Trump wants BernieNo Arista. Trump has admitted he didnt want Bernie as a VP for Secretary Clinton. Bernie is the one he doesnt want
'The Only One I Didn't Want Her to Pick': In Secret Recording, Trump Admits Fear of Clinton Picking Sanders as VP in 2016 (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/25/only-one-i-didnt-want-her-pick-secret-recording-trump-admits-fear-clinton-picking)

All he's got to bash Bernie with is Sociallism/Social democrat/Social deocracy etc = Communist. Theres nothing else he can bash Bernie with, his record as a Senator is impeccable. Unless he goes after Sanders from the left and thats not likely. He might but I doubt it.

[GiRTh]

FFS Biden is going to win :facepalm:The dems are gonna try to stop him. Its gonna interesting to see how they do and whether Obama gets involved so I wouldn't be celebrating yet.

[GiRTh]

The results are apparently not being announced tonight (which is a whole mess in itself), but for some reason Pete Buttigieg just declared himself victorious anyway :skull:...has Pete Buttigieg come from nowhere for the finishing line...he’s like someone who was never in the race, but he just ran onto the pitch/track near the end, type thing...to get his photo taken..?.../..like a photobomb person...who is Pete Buttigieg...do we like him, MB..should we stan..?....
Sounds and acts like Obama-lite so loved by the media. If he wins the nomination then Donnie will probably beat him in the General.

[arista]

No Arista. Trump has admitted he didnt want Bernie as a VP for Secretary Clinton. Bernie is the one he doesnt want
'The Only One I Didn't Want Her to Pick': In Secret Recording, Trump Admits Fear of Clinton Picking Sanders as VP in 2016 (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/25/only-one-i-didnt-want-her-pick-secret-recording-trump-admits-fear-clinton-picking)

All he's got to bash Bernie with is Sociallism/Social democrat/Social deocracy etc = Communist. Theres nothing else he can bash Bernie with, his record as a Senator is impeccable. Unless he goes after Sanders from the left and thats not likely. He might but I doubt it.


He wants Saunders
as no USA person wants Communism.
Then Trump will Win again.

[GoldHeart]

The dems are gonna try to stop him. Its gonna interesting to see how they do and whether Obama gets involved so I wouldn't be celebrating yet.

I really want Bernie to win :fc:, he has a clean slate . There's nothing anyone can dig up on him apart from him being too much of a nice guy or try and accuse him of being a pushover etc . Unless they tell total BS lies on him .

Hilary was an easy target back in 2016, they brought up dirt on her husband and everything :facepalm: .

[GoldHeart]

According to the polls Biden is in the lead :bored: or is that BS ?? . I guess we'll have to wait for the results.

[GiRTh]

He wants Saunders
as no USA person wants Communism.
Then Trump will Win again.Americans think Social democracy is communism and once their news media finally tell them the truth then Trump has nothing else to bash him with.

Trump can never beat Sanders on polices. HE's gonna try and smear him and I dont what else he can smear Sanders with. :shrug:

[GoldHeart]

Americans think Social democracy is communism and once their news media finally tell them the truth then Trump has nothing else to bash him with.

Trump can never beat Sanders on Polices. HE's gonna try and smear him and I dont what else he can smear Sander with.

This is why i say Hilary was an EASY target as she had everything thrown at her and she wasn't as likeable as Bernie .

Trump will try and smear Bernie , but he has nothing on him so he can F RIGHT OFF !!!! :nono: .

[GiRTh]

According to the polls Biden is in the lead :bored: or is that BS ?? . I guess we'll have to wait for the results.The top three or four all go up down weekly.

[GiRTh]

FFS Biden is going to win :facepalm:Thats what the media want but I dont think he will TBH.

[bots]

According to the polls Biden is in the lead :bored: or is that BS ?? . I guess we'll have to wait for the results.

i think half of them are claiming the lead at the moment :laugh:

If someone doesnt make the top 3 they are basically finished so they will spin it for all its worth until the result is announced. Having said that Biden is likely to be in the top 2/3

[GiRTh]

This is why i say Hilary was an EASY target as she had everything thrown at her and she wasn't as likeable as Bernie .

Trump will try and smear Bernie , but he has nothing on him so he can F RIGHT OFF !!!! :nono: .
Exactly, Trump might hit him from the left though, if he's desperate.

[bots]

Bernie will never be elected president, not a chance in hell.

[GiRTh]

Bernie will never be elected president, not a chance in hell.If he wins the Primary he will slaughter Trump. However, winning the primary will be even harder when the Dems establishment start interfering, and they will start interfering.

There is so much misinformation about Sanders and his policies being perpetuated by CNN and MSNBC. MY hope is, that if Bernie wins the Primary then surely that will stop but I'm not even sure it will. If Bernie get the chance to speak to the American people they're gonna buy what he's selling.

Ki6OawcuTgg
Here the type of thing I mean. Mimi Rocah with a bunch of straight up lies and that Bernie makes her skin crawl yet no come back, only laughter from the host. There are loads of examples like this. Hope fully, if he's the official nominee this bull**** will stop.. Bernie gets better representation on FOX than he does on CNN and MSNBC.

Had to post this biased left wing view cuz i cant find the original footage.

[Liam-]

Bernie would destroy Trump in the debates, he has actual beliefs and policies, rather than catchphrases and dogwhistles, he has to the fight the establishment first, if he gets down to the final two, even if he’s the most popular with the public, the centrists and the elite will fight against him at every opportunity, but he would stand the best chance of them all at the general election

[GoldHeart]

i think half of them are claiming the lead at the moment :laugh:

If someone doesnt make the top 3 they are basically finished so they will spin it for all its worth until the result is announced. Having said that Biden is likely to be in the top 2/3

Well BOTS according to the polls Biden, Bernie & Warren are the 3 in the running .

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/elections/democratic-polls.html

[GiRTh]

PwU481YGfSg
Check out ths bul**** for the frankly unwatchable Chris Matthews. What a stupid irrelevant question only used to smear Sanders. Hope fully it'll stop when he gets the nomination

[GoldHeart]

PwU481YGfSg
Check out ths bul**** for the frankly unwatchable Chris Matthews. What a stupid irrelevant question only used to smear Sanders. Hope fully it'll stop when he gets the nomination

FFS they have nothing on Sanders , so they just lie and lie :facepalm: . This race is going to be a tough one.

[GiRTh]

FFS they have nothing on Sanders , so they just lie and lie :facepalm: . This race is going to be a tough one.Its gonna be very tough for bernie to overcome so many obstacles, as well as the other candidates. On the other hand, the same media hacks love Klobuchar and Buttigieg :conf:

[GiRTh]

CZszcQcXVKcTypical MSNBC. She over heard eh? and the laughter from the host :facepalm:

This is what Bernie is up against

[GiRTh]

CNN have Buttergieg winning even though Sanders got most votes. Here we go. :facepalm:

[arista]

Biden came last

[GiRTh]

Biden came last:laugh::laugh:

[GoldHeart]

Buttigieg winning?? , I'm confused .

Or is it just more BS they're spinning, Sanders was definitely leading surely??? :conf:.

[GiRTh]

Bernie got he most votes.

[bots]

Buttigieg winning?? , I'm confused .

Or is it just more BS they're spinning, Sanders was definitely leading surely??? :conf:.

Yes, he is winning, but with just over half the votes in, it doesnt reflect a final result as these will be from smaller rural areas

[GoldHeart]

Yes, he is winning, but with just over half the votes in, it doesnt reflect a final result as these will be from smaller rural areas

It still looks like it's between Buttigieg & Sanders

[Alf]

Oh dear, what has speaker Nancy been doing?

What a silly, bizarre thing to do.

[James]

I just read that if Buttigieg wins in November America would have a younger president than Macaulay Culkin and Britney Spears. :shocked:

[bots]

Buttigieg is 40 years younger than Bernie :laugh:

[bots]

Oh dear, what has speaker Nancy been doing?

What a silly, bizarre thing to do.

if you are referring to her ripping up Trump's speech, then why not after he refused to shake her hand

[arista]

if you are referring to her ripping up Trump's speech, then why not after he refused to shake her hand


Yes she is Childish
bad loser

[arista]

I just read that if Buttigieg wins in November America would have a younger president than Macaulay Culkin and Britney Spears. :shocked:


He can not win
They do not want a Women in charge
let alone a Gay.


Many in USA go by the Bible
no Gays allowed.

Its Normal in USA.

[Alf]

if you are referring to her ripping up Trump's speech, then why not after he refused to shake her handBecause that speech is a piece of American History, it belongs to the American people., it:s not for her to do that. However, Trump is free to refuse to shake anyones hand he wants. .

[Tom4784]

Oh dear, what has speaker Nancy been doing?

What a silly, bizarre thing to do.

Trump literally mocked a disabled person in a speech in front of thousands, put the pearl necklace down.

[Alf]

Trump literally mocked a disabled person in a speech in front of thousands, put the pearl necklace down.But that isn't true.

[Tom4784]

But that isn't true.

Wrong.

PX9reO3QnUA

[Alf]

Wrong.

PX9reO3QnUAMaybe you're just gullible, and that's why you're outraged? What do you reckon?

[GoldHeart]

He can not win
They do not want a Women in charge
let alone a Gay.


Many in USA go by the Bible
no Gays allowed.

Its Normal in USA.

Exactly look at the hate Obama & Hilary got , even Bernie is getting hate now . So can you imagine :bored: .

[Oliver_W]

Buttigieg is 40 years younger than Bernie :laugh:

Yoda is younger than Bernie, but he's still the best bet for beating Trump.

[arista]

1225058084307001344

[GiRTh]

1225058084307001344Doubtful

[Liam-]

He literally doesn’t stand a chance, the election basically relies on the states where they would never elect a gay man to be president

[GiRTh]

Buttergeig = Obama 2.0

[GoldHeart]

He literally doesn’t stand a chance, the election basically relies on the states where they would never elect a gay man to be president

Bernie was democrats only chance really

[Tom4784]

America will never vote for a gay president, sadly.

[arista]

America will never vote for a gay president, sadly.


True

Its against their Bible.

[GiRTh]

Buttegeig/Klobuchar is the nightmare ticket. :facepalm:

EDIT: IF this ends up being the ticket then I want Trump to get a second term.

[GoldHeart]

What an idiot , is she living in a cave !! :facepalm: :bored:. Democrats are screwed sadly !

LOY7xC43d-E

[arista]

Betting odds Alf

https://www.electionbettingodds.com/

[Braden]

What the ****ing hell—scuse’ me—has happened here?

[arista]

From CNN HD Political Show
Another Older White Women
demanded her voting Card back
as she found out Pete likes the same sex

[GiRTh]

Joe Biden calls voter a 'lying dog-faced pony soldier' at New Hampshire rally (https://news.sky.com/story/joe-biden-calls-voter-a-lying-dog-faced-pony-soldier-at-new-hampshire-rally-11930671)

:umm2:

Looks like joe finally realised he aint gonna win.

[GiRTh]

Team Bernie Blasts Chuck Todd for Segment Likening Supporters to ‘Brown Shirts’ (https://www.thedailybeast.com/team-bernie-blasts-chuck-todd-for-segment-likening-supporters-to-brown-shirts)

Another day anther Bernie smear on the MSM. Comparing the Jewish front runners followers to Brown shirt' is as low as its got, so far.

[bots]

the USA is in a much bigger mess than Trump

[Tom4784]

Audio clips of Bloomberg being racist are apparently cropping up.

He probably should have tried to run as a republican.

[Zizu]

Audio clips of Bloomberg being racist are apparently cropping up.

He probably should have tried to run as a republican.



I always wondered why Bloomberg only seems to use Asian women as presenters.,


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[GiRTh]

Yang out, Bennett out. Who will their supporters go to? Bernie might get some of Yangs voter but not Bennetts. Gonna be tight going into Super Tuesday.

[GoldHeart]

Yes support Bernie :clap1:

rdCL6CxiBmk

[MB.]

Yang out, Bennett out. Who will their supporters go to? Bernie might get some of Yangs voter but not Bennetts. Gonna be tight going into Super Tuesday.

I'm sure whoever gets Bennet's supporters will appreciate the extra four votes

[MB.]

If you'd told me two months ago that Amy Klobuchar would be the highest-polling female candidate come February, I might have questioned your sanity, but here we are

[GoldHeart]

If you'd told me two months ago that Amy Klobuchar would be the highest-polling female candidate come February, I might have questioned your sanity, but here we are

It's between Bernie , Pete & Amy .

I wish they'd hurry up with all the votes, democrats need a leader soon and now ! . It's dragging out too much.

[Nicky91]

Go Bernie


glad to see creepo biden flopping :laugh: democrats are smart enough to know him against trump would mean another term for the orange moron

[bots]

Bernie is performing worse than he did at the same point in the last selection, so i wouldn't get too excited yet. It's got a long, long way to go and Bloomberg isn't even bothering with these smaller votes. Money determines the result in the end

[MB.]

Bernie is performing worse than he did at the same point in the last selection

Yes, against one another candidate, not eight :unsure:

[arista]

Sleepy Biden came last.

Bernie Sanders
wins this race
He is like Trump but a Socialist Trump.

And Trump wants him.
as more would Not Elect a Socialist,
Its Like Corbyn failed big time
in the UK.

[Liam-]

A. His name is Bernie SANDERS
B. In what possible universe is he like Trump?

[arista]

A. His name is Bernie SANDERS
B. In what possible universe is he like Trump?


In the Way
Sanders makes wild pledges
that can not be backed up.

Many in USA
see him as a Socialist Trump,

[GoldHeart]

In the Way
Sanders makes wild pledges
that can not be backed up.

Many in USA
see him as a Socialist Trump,

I've never heard so much rubbish , Bernie is NOTHING like Trump .

[Nicky91]

I've never heard so much rubbish , Bernie is NOTHING like Trump .

agree


what are known facts though, are that Bernie does surprisingly well with younger generation, how Daily Show's Trevor Noah back in 2016 pointed out Bernie as possibly the oldest millenial

and i now still think Bernie is the democrats their best hope of competing against Trump in the elections

[Oliver_W]

It really needs to be either Tulsi or Bernie. The other candidates are just awful. Even if we assume Tulsi is closer to purple than blue, she's a better bet than the rest of them.

I've never heard so much rubbish , Bernie is NOTHING like Trump .

A. His name is Bernie SANDERS
B. In what possible universe is he like Trump?

I think they're alike in that they're both non-establishment, and theoretically mean(/t) big changes. Obviously they're neither politically nor personally alike, but they probably hold the same "place" on either side.

[bots]

i don't care who it is as long as they beat Trump

[GoldHeart]

i don't care who it is as long as they beat Trump

I care as Bernie is the democrats only chance of winning the November election.

[Alf]

I care as Bernie is the democrats only chance of winning the November election.You think the American people are gonna vote for Socialism over Capitalism?

He has no chance against Trump.

[Oliver_W]

I've checked out a bit from current American politics, personality aside is Trump currently doing a bad job?

[Alf]

I've checked out a bit from current American politics, personality aside is Trump currently doing a bad job?Bad for whom?

[Liam-]

I've checked out a bit from current American politics, personality aside is Trump currently doing a bad job?

Depends on who you listen to, him and his people would lead you to believe he’s the best thing since sliced bread, but then look at the other side, he’s cutting aide to to vital services for millions of people and the economy is doing quite while, but still worse than what it was under Obama, same as unemployment

[Alf]

Katie calls him Saunders rather than Sanders, too.


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[Mystic Mock]

I care as Bernie is the democrats only chance of winning the November election.

Do you think that his policies will appeal to most Americans? I hope that you're right, but he does seem quite liberal for America's tastes.

[arista]

I've never heard so much rubbish , Bernie is NOTHING like Trump .


Of Course
But he makes sweeping statements
like Trump does.


He is a Socialist
so the opposite to Conservative Trump
but males endless claims
that he has not backed up.

[arista]

It's between Bernie , Pete & Amy .

I wish they'd hurry up with all the votes, democrats need a leader soon and now ! . It's dragging out too much.




Yes Sleepy Joe Biden out

[arista]

You think the American people are gonna vote for Socialism over Capitalism?

He has no chance against Trump.


Thats why
Trump is happy if Sanders wins

[GoldHeart]

Do you think that his policies will appeal to most Americans? I hope that you're right, but he does seem quite liberal for America's tastes.

I didn't say Bernie will Definitely win ,I said he's the democrats only CHANCE of winning .

Orange face Trump will likely get in again :bored: , but at least then the democrats know they couldn't of done anything else.

If a woman or gay person or someone of a different ethnic background ,or someone with a dodgy history was leader , they would have a bigger hate campaign against them . And it would be game over.

Look at the hate Hilary got back in 2016 :facepalm: .

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

You think the American people are gonna vote for Socialism over Capitalism?

He has no chance against Trump.

yes it is unbelievable so many want to vote for dictator orange clown trump :idc:

[lewis111]

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What does this even mean? People in the Middle East are fighting for High Drug Costs and tuition fees? Also, the rest of the world are scratching their heads at how America is so far behind. Bernie would simply bring America into the 21st Century

[Mystic Mock]

I didn't say Bernie will Definitely win ,I said he's the democrats only CHANCE of winning .

Orange face Trump will likely get in again :bored: , but at least then the democrats know they couldn't of done anything else.

If a woman or gay person or someone of a different ethnic background ,or someone with a dodgy history was leader , they would have a bigger hate campaign against them . And it would be game over.

Look at the hate Hilary got back in 2016 :facepalm: .

That is true that Bernie wouldn't face prejudice from the voters like some of the others would.

That's why the best trick that the right wing Media will go for in America will probably be to copy the UK's terrorist sympathizer angle, or Bernie loving some other controversial figures to destroy his vote within the country.

[GoldHeart]

That is true that Bernie wouldn't face prejudice from the voters like some of the others would.

That's why the best trick that the right wing Media will go for in America will probably be to copy the UK's terrorist sympathizer angle, or Bernie loving some other controversial figures to destroy his vote within the country.

They're already trying to smear Bernie, did you see the video clip of the woman that actually voted for Bernie due to the media bad mouthing him :joker: .

I hope more people support him :fc: , but they'll definitely try something to make him look bad. But he still has a better chance than Amy & Pete .

Hopefully people in America will use common sense.

[bots]

Those with left leaning views should understand that the average american's politics are somewhat further right than our conservative party, so someone with political views such as Bernie has absolutely no chance of winning a presidential election. At this point it should be who is the candidate that stands the best chance of beating Trump. Someone that can capture the moderate voter and eat in to Trumps support base, is the only person that can beat him

[arista]

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Sanders gets on the Front Page today

[Oliver_W]

Those with left leaning views should understand that the average american's politics are somewhat further right than our conservative party, so someone with political views such as Bernie has absolutely no chance of winning a presidential election. At this point it should be who is the candidate that stands the best chance of beating Trump. Someone that can capture the moderate voter and eat in to Trumps support base, is the only person that can beat him

Yeah I think the comparison I heard once was that their Democrats about align with our Tories.

[GiRTh]

Those with left leaning views should understand that the average american's politics are somewhat further right than our conservative party, so someone with political views such as Bernie has absolutely no chance of winning a presidential election. At this point it should be who is the candidate that stands the best chance of beating Trump. Someone that can capture the moderate voter and eat in to Trumps support base, is the only person that can beat himI dont agree with this thinking. Al Gore, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton all lost. The safe middle of the road candidate usually loses because why should Republicans vote for Republican-lite, like Klobuchar, when they can vote for the actual republican.
I feel its flawed logic at best. Using your thinking, Klobuchar, Biden, Bloomberg and Buttegeig are the best candidates. All bar Biden has a race problem. All will be easy to attack for Trump.

[Alf]

:hehe:


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[Oliver_W]

:hehe:


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Why shouldn't he travel first class? He can afford it, and no-one wants to travel peasant class lol

[Alf]

Why shouldn't he travel first class? He can afford it, and no-one wants to travel peasant class lolNobody says he can't. It's just a caption contest making fun of him.

[GiRTh]

Those with left leaning views should understand that the average american's politics are somewhat further right than our conservative party, so someone with political views such as Bernie has absolutely no chance of winning a presidential election. At this point it should be who is the candidate that stands the best chance of beating Trump. Someone that can capture the moderate voter and eat in to Trumps support base, is the only person that can beat himOne more thing, Warrens campaign is diving and it could be argued its due to a softening of her policies. The timing of her softer stance and lack lustre performance sand polling numbers do back up the claim. Harris' campaign also faltered after she softened her stance. I dont agree the middle of the road is the best choice for the Dems.

The one time they got radical, with Obama, they won. He then turned out to be the safest, middle of the road President ever but candidate Obama was exciting to both the GoP and Dems. The same could be said of Bill Clinton too.

Your argument is one that is peddled on MSNBC, CNN etc all the time. Its sounds like good logic but in practice it fails far more than it succeeds

[GoldHeart]

:hehe:


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I don't understand what point you're trying to make Alf :rolleyes: .

[Tom4784]

It's both hysterical and sad how the media are terrified of Bernie and seek to undermine him at every turn. Ignoring him didn't work and slating him certainly won't. I saw a screenshot that tried to undercut Bernie's victim by saying that three other candidates combined got more votes than he did.... The media are frothing at the mouth over him and the fact he'll likely win the nomination at this point.

Trump should be terrified, Bernie will slaughter him in a debate and Trump's usual tricks will not work.

[Alf]

I don't understand what point you're trying to make Alf :rolleyes: .I'm not trying to make a point. I'm just passing time.

[GoldHeart]

It's both hysterical and sad how the media are terrified of Bernie and seek to undermine him at every turn. Ignoring him didn't work and slating him certainly won't. I saw a screenshot that tried to undercut Bernie's victim by saying that three other candidates combined got more votes than he did.... The media are frothing at the mouth over him and the fact he'll likely win the nomination at this point.

Trump should be terrified, Bernie will slaughter him in a debate and Trump's usual tricks will not work.

It's pathetic isn't it how they try to slander honest decent candidates like Bernie, but they have nothing to say about him apart from utter BS they'll try and twist about him .

[Brother Leon]

Trump won the election because he got the votes of frustrated lower income individuals who wanted to stick it to the establishment. Politics isn’t always just about right and left. Bernie is more than capable of stealing away some of those votes. And believe it or not, but a number of Trump voters would have voted Bernie if he won the election.

It’s foolish worrying over whether he can defeat Trump when none of the other candidates look likely to do so themselves. For me he is the only answer. Pete won’t get close in the Midwest and with “POC Vote” etc and Bloomberg will alienate the Youth and Bernie wave of supporters. That said, I think Trump wins again unfortunately. The dems have ****ed it up beyond belief from back in 2016 where I am sure Bernie would have beat Trump in place of Hilary.

[GiRTh]

Agree with you all. :thumbs:

Dems need to let the most popular candidate win. What a statement to make about a democracy that calls itself the best in the world.

[GoldHeart]

Trump won the election because he got the votes of frustrated lower income individuals who wanted to stick it to the establishment. Politics isn’t always just about right and left. Bernie is more than capable of stealing away some of those votes. And believe it or not, but a number of Trump voters would have voted Bernie if he won the election.

It’s foolish worrying over whether he can defeat Trump when none of the other candidates look likely to do so themselves. For me he is the only answer. Pete won’t get close in the Midwest and with “POC Vote” etc and Bloomberg will alienate the Youth and Bernie wave of supporters. That said, I think Trump wins again unfortunately. The dems have ****ed it up beyond belief from back in 2016 where I am sure Bernie would have beat Trump in place of Hilary.

As I've said Leon , it's so frustrating that Bernie was out of the race back in 2016 . He definitely would of done alot better than Hilary !!.

Hopefully 2020 is Bernie's year :fc: , if he can't beat Trump then no one can .