What if Harvey Weinstein did nothing wrong?

[Alf]

https://spectator.us/harvey-weinstein-nothing-wrong/


is it possible that he did nothing wrong legally? if so, will he sue those that smeared his name?

[GiRTh]

Was that written by the same Chadwick Moore who regularly appears on Fox News?

[Elliot]

Strange article

[GiRTh]

Strange articlex2

[Barry.]

Not with all the stories he can't be innocent. High profile actresses has said he's a pig.

[LaLaLand]

I mean I think we’re well past the point of him being innocent tbh. At the very least he’s a sexual predator.

[arista]

https://spectator.us/harvey-weinstein-nothing-wrong/


is it possible that he did nothing wrong legally? if so, will he sue those that smeared his name?


Sure Dream away Alf.

So many good women have come forward
the Fat Producer got his dick out
and raped them

[Alf]

Strange articleIs that another way of saying "this isn't The Guardian"

[Alf]

Sure Dream away Alf.

So many good women have come forward
the Fat Producer got his dick out
and raped themWhat do you mean "dream away?" I haven't even give my opinion on it.

[Alf]

Was that written by the same Chadwick Moore who regularly appears on Fox News?I wouldn't know, I ain't watched Fox news since they took it of sky in the UK, and even then I only watched Tucker Carlson and sometimes Hannity.

[Marsh.]

is it possible that he did nothing wrong legally?

Unless rape is legal, no.

[arista]

What do you mean "dream away?" I haven't even give my opinion on it.


You said "is it possible"

thats a opinion

[GiRTh]

I wouldn't know, I ain't watched Fox news since they took it of sky in the UK, and even then I only watched Tucker Carlson and sometimes Hannity.He's been on both. Laura Ingraham too.

[Zizu]

https://spectator.us/harvey-weinstein-nothing-wrong/





is it possible that he did nothing wrong legally? if so, will he sue those that smeared his name?



Seems rather unlikely


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[GoldHeart]

There's too much evidence against him , you can see he's a sleaze bag .

[Alf]

He's been on both. Laura Ingraham too.Just googled him, can't say I've seen him before, he doesn't stand out as recognisable to me.

[GiRTh]

Just googled him, can't say I've seen him before, he doesn't stand out as recognisable to me.Always strikes me as a bit of an attention seeking tit to me. It was his name I recognized and his appearances on Fox News

[Zizu]

There's too much evidence against him , you can see he's a sleaze bag .



Exactly !


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[Brother Leon]

You could maybe think this off one accusation, hell let’s say two.


But this... come on now. Guilty as ****.

[Kizzy]

https://spectator.us/harvey-weinstein-nothing-wrong/


is it possible that he did nothing wrong legally? if so, will he sue those that smeared his name?

No its not possible, if his conscience was clear he would have taken his chances in court and accepted whatever justice deemed appropriate.
Being able to buy your way out of cases does not make you automatically innocent.
So no...he won't sue.

[Wizard.]

What if Jimmy Saville did nothing wrong?

That’s how ridiculous this sounds

[Marsh.]

"What if Adolf Hitler was right?"

A serious debate, by Alf.

[Tom4784]

Given the landslide of evidence against him, not likely.

[Mystic Mock]

I mean I think we’re well past the point of him being innocent tbh. At the very least he’s a sexual predator.

This really.

I think that the bigger question is how many high up people in Hollywood are committing similar offences to Weinstein?

[Oliver_W]

Let's entertain the possibility all he did was offer actresses big roles in exchange for sex, and smeared their names if they turned him down ... even that could be classed sexual harassment.

[Alf]

You said "is it possible"

thats a opinionThat's a question, not an opinion.

[thesheriff443]

You said "is it possible"

thats a opinion

That’s a question me old fruit, I think it’s possible is an opinion.

[thesheriff443]

"What if Adolf Hitler was right?"

A serious debate, by Alf.

In adolf hitlers, mind he was right and he got a lot of people to think the same way.

[arista]

In adolf hitlers, mind he was right and he got a lot of people to think the same way.


Yes around 1939 to 1941
Hitler was loved by Germans


France was taken over by Hitler

[user104658]

Is it possible that a few of the accusations are "revenge" or slightly rewritten history? Sure. Statistically, it's possible. Because there are SO MANY OF THEM that it makes it possible that a small percentage are erroneous. Most of them though? Nah.

[Kizzy]

This is not just any question...

'A loaded question or complex question is a question that contains a controversial or unjustified assumption. Aside from being an informal fallacy depending on usage, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda.'

[Livia]

He's a sleaze bag. That's undeniable... and it must be harrowing for those women who believed they were going to a "private party" and ended up having to hump the world's ugliest Jew... I do want to say though, that the casting couch has been a "joke" since cinema began. Everyone knows about it... how naive do you have to be to allow yourself to be alone with a man who is well-known... for years!... to want sexual favours in return. People have been making jokes about it for years! And what about all the women that suited? The women that thought it was a fair price for fame? And what about the women who told their story, then were paid off by Weinstein? Doesn't that weaken their claim? They took the money rather than see him face justice? He was enabled for years, by men and women.

I'm opening myself up to a slew of "victim blaming" replies. However, I acknowledge that there are real victims caught up in this. But they are not all victims. In my opinion.

[Alf]

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[Alf]

This is not just any question...

'A loaded question or complex question is a question that contains a controversial or unjustified assumption. Aside from being an informal fallacy depending on usage, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda.'I think you're reading too much into it.

Actually I was just scrolling down twitter and came across this and thought, that will get them talking on Tibb, I think I'll post this.

[Marsh.]

Let's entertain the possibility all he did was offer actresses big roles in exchange for sex, and smeared their names if they turned him down ... even that could be classed sexual harassment.

There's no could about it. :suspect: That's blackmail and sextortion. A form of rape.

[thesheriff443]

Meghans dad has been made to be the devil for accepting money to talk about his daughter

So where does accepting money for a rape accusation to be dropped fit in to the moral high ground.

[Niamh.]

Let's entertain the possibility all he did was offer actresses big roles in exchange for sex, and smeared their names if they turned him down ... even that could be classed sexual harassment.

Sexual harassment, defamation, Blackmail

[Marsh.]

In adolf hitlers, mind he was right and he got a lot of people to think the same way.

And the psycho who slaughtered a school full of kids "thought" he was right. Kind of ignoring the glaring point.

[thesheriff443]

And the psycho who slaughtered a school full of kids "thought" he was right. Kind of ignoring the glaring point.

The point of your initial post to Alf was to dismiss this thread as noncence by comparing it to hitler.

[Marsh.]

He's a sleaze bag. That's undeniable... and it must be harrowing for those women who believed they were going to a "private party" and ended up having to hump the world's ugliest Jew... I do want to say though, that the casting couch has been a "joke" since cinema began. Everyone knows about it... how naive do you have to be to allow yourself to be alone with a man who is well-known... for years!... to want sexual favours in return. People have been making jokes about it for years! And what about all the women that suited? The women that thought it was a fair price for fame? And what about the women who told their story, then were paid off by Weinstein? Doesn't that weaken their claim? They took the money rather than see him face justice? He was enabled for years, by men and women.

I'm opening myself up to a slew of "victim blaming" replies. However, I acknowledge that there are real victims caught up in this. But they are not all victims. In my opinion.

Whether they took money or not, of course they're victims.

But I do agree to an extent. Especially in regards to Rose McGowan who has had her fair share of mud slinging at people like Meryl Streep who she claims "must" have known. But in calling out other women and shifting blame point blank refused to take responsibility for her own complicity in these abuses continuing.

That's not blaming her for anyone he assaulted after her nor is it suggesting it would be easy for her to speak up at the time. But the fact she took the payout. I feel kind of guilty for mentioning it because the truth it I can't imagine what she must have gone through, however she is one example tbf.

[Marsh.]

The point of your initial post to Alf was to dismiss this thread as noncence by comparing it to hitler.

It is nonsense.

Are you seriously suggesting there's a serious debate to be had over whether there is nothing wrong with rape?

As ludicrous as suggesting there's nothing wrong with genocide. Hence the comparison.

[thesheriff443]

It is nonsense.

Are you seriously suggesting there's a serious debate to be had over whether there is nothing wrong with rape?

As ludicrous as suggesting there's nothing wrong with genocide. Hence the comparison.

Who said there is nothing wrong with rape? Or genocide.

You are making stuff up there meet your stance.

People are debating in this thread so if you think it’s noncence what are doing in it.

[arista]

YPpoKquOG5Q


Of Course Alf
that was 4 years ago.


But now we ALL
know he RAPED stars
are you blind top that , Alf.

Get Up To Day.
You Lazy poster Alf

[Marsh.]

Who said there is nothing wrong with rape? Or genocide.

You are making stuff up there meet your stance.

People are debating in this thread so if you think it’s noncence what are doing in it.

"People" can do as they please. You quoted me sheriff.

The question posed is asking if a rapist did nothing wrong. A ludicrous stance. Defend that to your heart's content I won't stop you.

[Alf]

Of Course Alf
that was 4 years ago.


But now we ALL
know he RAPED stars
are you blind top that , Alf.

Get Up To Day.
You Lazy poster AlfWe learn more from history than we do the present.

Listen to Alf, you might learn something.

[thesheriff443]

"People" can do as they please. You quoted me sheriff.

The question posed is asking if a rapist did nothing wrong. A ludicrous stance. Defend that to your heart's content I won't stop you.

I’m not defending anyone, get your facts right.

[Marsh.]

I’m not defending anyone, get your facts right.

Of course you're not. That's why you jumped on a post not directed at you.

Have a nice day.

[Kizzy]

If they are not all victims, but there are victims involved what is the sliding scale of victimhood?
From molestation to sex?
They all took money, how do some remain victims and others not, is it only based on the assumption that some saw it as the status quo in the industry? They do not deserve to be victims as they are naive enough to believe that, and ultimately they were as exploited as the rest.

I've heard of being groomed for stardom, now I know exactly what it means.

[Marsh.]

If they are not all victims, but there are victims involved what is the sliding scale of victimhood?
From molestation to sex?
They all took money, how do some remain victims and others not, is it only based on the assumption that some saw it as the status quo in the industry? They do not deserve to be victims as they are naive enough to believe that, and ultimately they were as exploited as the rest.

I've heard of being groomed for stardom, now I know exactly what it means.

That's a good point.
A lot of stars end up in that world through being groomed at a young age with the promise of money and fame when they're no more than young kids trying to find their way in life. They're spotted by agencies who make outrageous promises and before they know it they're in murky circles, have addictions, have been raped and become trapped in the machine.

[thesheriff443]

Of course you're not. That's why you jumped on a post not directed at you.

Have a nice day.

That makes no sense, you tryed to belittle Alf’s thread I pulled you up on it.

Now get over it, and stop trying to paint me out as someone who supports a rapists.

[Alf]

If Hillary had beaten Trump, would this have even come out? Would Weinstein still be king in Hollywood?

[Marsh.]

If Hillary had beaten Trump, would this have even come out? Would Weinstein still be king in Hollywood?

What does Hillary or Trump have to do with Harvey's downfall?

[Beso]

The fat pig needs better acting skills..trying the frail old man look isn't working.

[Alf]

What does Hillary or Trump have to do with Harvey's downfall?Weinstein was one of Hillary's biggest doners.

Does that answer your question, sir?

[Marsh.]

Weinstein was one of Hillary's biggest doners.

Does that answer your question, sir?

No.

[Alf]

No.I would have put money on that.

[arista]

If Hillary had beaten Trump, would this have even come out? Would Weinstein still be king in Hollywood?



No the Me too
group of women
went online.


One Lady had proof that
FoxNewsHD Bill O'Reilly
demanded her to go to his hotel room
when he was younger.
Through his keys on the table.

Bill had paid off all the other women
but not her
she refused to take the Cash


That Political Group
used that one lady from years ago
to get the Top TV News fella FIRED

[arista]

Weinstein was one of Hillary's biggest doners.

Does that answer your question, sir?


Yes he pumped Cash into her Political Future

[Twosugars]

What does Hillary or Trump have to do with Harvey's downfall?

The Clintons are paedophiles dont you know? :joker:

And Michelle Obama is a man and Barack is a gay.


Sheila Zilinsky is outraged: “So let me get this straight. Obama is a gay man, married to a dude who looks like Chewbacca, & Chewy gets selected as ‘woman of the year.’ Trumps’ wife fluently speaks 7 languages, is a class act of poise & beauty & is an actual WOMAN. Yet she gets treated like the Clampetts.”
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