BBC Future

[arista]

Original title :
BBC News to Cut 450 jobs

Yes bound to happen.


Was just on SkyNewsHD newsflash

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Fran Unsworth,
is leading a meeting explaining the ‘modernisation’
of the BBC to around 130 employees in the room,
and many more elsewhere watching on an internal live stream.
She has announced 450 job losses…
The major restructuring will focus on pooling
resources into “multi-skilled story teams”,
instead of the current farce of the BBC
sending multiple news crews to the same event
to cover it for different programmes.
At major events such as party conferences
sometimes the bloated BBC contingent
is as numerous as all the rest of the media combined.
It is bonkers that individual programmes have their
own economics, science, and tech presenters
when they are only occasionally used…
The BBC is belatedly and brutally making the
decisions it would have have been forced
to make a long time ago if it were
run like a for-proft company.
The way to avoid big ruptures like this
in the future is to move
to a sustainable subscription-based model…]

[smudgie]

Might as well.
The same news on a loop all day, with any amount of different faces presenting it.

[Alf]

That vile Victoria Derbyshire woman is having or has had her show axed I believe.

Good riddence.

[arista]

That vile Victoria Derbyshire woman is having or has had her show axed I believe.

Good riddence.


Yes but that's only 10 staff
This is a bigger clean out.


Radio 5
is losing many workers
that they no longer need
as one BBC reporter can supply everyone
in every party of the BBC.

[arista]

BBCnewsHD went through all the changes
with their Media Reporter,
(he was the Editor of the Independent Newspaper)

[Kizzy]

That vile Victoria Derbyshire woman is having or has had her show axed I believe.

Good riddence.

Excellent show... bit anti establishment in parts... That's why she's gone.

[arista]

Excellent show... bit anti establishment in parts... That's why she's gone.

No she is gone because
her show cost to much to do.

Fran gave great respect to Victoria.

[Cherie]

If they cut some of the big salaries they could save some of these jobs

[arista]

If they cut some of the big salaries they could save some of these jobs

They have Cut some
but now this must be done


The BBC News only needs one smart dressed
reporter for all TV and all radio news on the BBC

They are Bloated,
and Fran , knows that

[Alf]

Excellent show... bit anti establishment in parts... That's why she's gone.A bit of Sargon for you, enjoy.

i7EjLWgBTWc

[bots]

the good news is that they are not phasing out the red button

[arista]

the good news is that they are not phasing out the red button


Yes they were planing that
but the good bbc tech team showed
it does not cost that much.

[arista]

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[Livia]

I really like Victoria Derbyshire. What a shame... the BBC needs a cull of overpaid executives.

[arista]

Radio 4
Editor Sarah Sands
is to leave the BBC.

Some will Jump
before pushed by Director of BBC news Fran.

[Livia]

Any news of any men going yet? They'd save a lot more money....

[arista]

Re-used old thread.


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[Tom4784]

That's not dodgy at all....

[arista]

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[Jigs]

Well, it's who you know

[arista]

30mins
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Short Version
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[arista]

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https://bylinetimes.com/2021/01/06/new-bbc-chairman-richard-sharp-donated-more-than-400000-to-conservative-party/

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

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if BBC will have to get ad breaks, ew not gonna be long until they will be gone for good then

no one wants irrelevant and annoying ad breaks

[user104658]

if BBC will have to get ad breaks, ew not gonna be long until they will be gone for good then



no one wants irrelevant and annoying ad breaksMixed model would be best - ads on live telly, offer an ad-free iPlayer (content available straight after it airs) for a subscription fee.

Live ad-funded telly is in its final days anyway.

And as they could offer iPlayer globally, I think they'd do well enough to be honest.

[Nicky91]

Mixed model would be best - ads on live telly, offer an ad-free iPlayer (content available straight after it airs) for a subscription fee.

Live ad-funded telly is in its final days anyway.

And as they could offer iPlayer globally, I think they'd do well enough to be honest.

if BBC comes to an end, i hope vile ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and especially the nasty far right Sky will come to their end soon after

[bots]

the bbc would do fine in the big wide world, the issue is purely over mandatory subscription which is probably 50 years past its sell by date

[user104658]

the bbc would do fine in the big wide world, the issue is purely over mandatory subscription which is probably 50 years past its sell by dateIf they simply made deals to turn it into a Sky/Bt/Virgin etc. subscription package and also offered it online via iPlayer, I honestly reckon a majority would sign up anyway.

The secondary issue of course is that £14 a month or whatever it is now is far too steep, realistically the most people will pay is about £8-£10.

[arista]

if BBC comes to an end, i hope vile ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and especially the nasty far right Sky will come to their end soon after


Nicky, Nicky
BSkyB is now owned By Left Wing USA Media
Comcast/NBC USA own UK Sky


Murdoch sold it. Nov /2018


Parent : Comcast

Subsidiaries
Sky UK
Sky Ireland
Sky Deutschland
Sky Italia
Website www.skygroup.sky


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Group

[user104658]

Nicky, Nicky
BSkyB is now owned By Left Wing USA Media
Comcast/NBC USA own UK Sky


Murdoch sold it. Nov /2018


Parent: Comcast

Subsidiaries
Sky UK
Sky Ireland
Sky Deutschland
Sky Italia
Websitewww.skygroup.sky


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_GroupIndeed. Sky was owned by 21st Century Fox but didn't go with it in the sale to Disney, and was separately acquired by Comcast.

[arista]

Yes TS Nicky Talks Crap.

[arista]

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[Tom4784]

I rarely watch any TV channels these days, it's it's not on streaming, I don't tend to bother.

If they ended the TV license in place of a subscription fee, I'd support it.

[arista]

[BBC criticised for spending more than £1m fighting
legal battles over discrimination and pay
A Tory MP says the money
"could have gone into making programmes" - but the
broadcaster says it has to deal with cases fairly.]

https://news.sky.com/story/bbc-criticised-for-spending-more-than-1m-fighting-legal-battles-over-discrimination-and-pay-12194999

[James]

I got sent this link to take part in a survey about the BBC -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/send/u61149175

I said I hardly ever watch BBC TV, but I visit the news site every day, and was favourable about the BBC because the they try to be balanced in its news coverage and it is a national institution.

I think I gave Youtube a higher rating in the "the following media organisations are 'for people like me'" section.

[arista]

I got sent this link to take part in a survey about the BBC -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/send/u61149175

I said I hardly ever watch BBC TV, but I visit the news site every day, and was favourable about the BBC because the they try to be balanced in its news coverage and it is a national institution.

I think I gave Youtube a higher rating in the "the following media organisations are 'for people like me'" section.



Very Nice of you James
to give the Bloated BBC your time.

[Rob!]

I’ve got zero time for anybody seeking to defund the BBC. The majority of them want the exact same service that they can go to at any time for nothing and have very little idea of how life works. It’s an irreplaceable institution.

[arista]

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[arista]

The BBC and the battle for truth
Can the corporation save itself and the nation from
fake news and culture wars?
By Harry Lamber



[When the pandemic struck and the UK entered lockdown
for the first time, the BBC’s nightly news audiences
surged to 15 million.
Traffic to the BBC’s website in March 2020 almost
doubled year on year. Boris Johnson’s No 10,
which had briefed consistently against the corporation
and refused to allow government
ministers to appear on some of its
flagship news programmes,
suddenly understood how valuable
it was to have a trusted,
impartial national news source during
an emergency. Leading on-air editors
at the BBC watched with satisfaction
as the government’s aggression evaporated.

Yet the BBC is an institution in perpetual peril,
never more so than in this age of polarisation.
The need for a detached, fact-led,
impartial national broadcaster may be greater than ever,
but the appetite for so neutral
a service is quite possibly getting weaker
by the year.
In a crisis, the British turned to the BBC.
Over time, however, we have been tuning it out.
While its reach is almost universal in the UK,
people are spending less time with the broadcaster.
In an increasingly emotional news world,
the BBC can never be anyone’s echo chamber.]


https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2021/02/bbc-and-battle-truth?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-en-GB

[user104658]

I'm cutting the BBC cord again soon, Sky bill went up over £20/month since December with no explanation so I'm getting rid and switching broadband provider. We have a TV license because its hard to argue that you don't watch TV when you have a Sky subscription [emoji23]... but we genuinely don't watch TV. We have Netflix, Prime, Disney+ and my eldest has a sub to some Anime streaming thing and that + YouTube/TikTok is basically all she watches these days. Youngest doesn't do "passive" viewing, she's all about Roblox and Animal Crossing and creative apps. I'm all about binging various series', and my wife doesn't really watch telly at all other than movies. We still w a tch various reality trash together but it's all streamed :shrug:. Genuinely have no use for live telly and I think that's just the way things are going... Basically none of my daughter's friends (age range about 9 - 13) watch "old style" television. At all.

So yeah. A months notice to serve with Sky and then they can **** off along with the TV licence fee. Saving us like £80 a month in total.

[user104658]

I’ve got zero time for anybody seeking to defund the BBC. The majority of them want the exact same service that they can go to at any time for nothing and have very little idea of how life works. It’s an irreplaceable institution.Nah. 10 years ago, maybe... It's an irrelevance now. I still like a bit of Doctor Who but tbh I think it would likely be a better show if they sold it :umm2:. The lore and intellectual property is better than the actual content currently... And that says a lot really.

[hijaxers]

I got sent this link to take part in a survey about the BBC -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/send/u61149175

I said I hardly ever watch BBC TV, but I visit the news site every day, and was favourable about the BBC because the they try to be balanced in its news coverage and it is a national institution.

I think I gave Youtube a higher rating in the "the following media organisations are 'for people like me'" section.

So did i and i was not at all kind regarding BBC news which is unbareable to watch along with Sky ~ monotamy . i seem to find myself watching al jazera or the like cos at least there is some news, our news acts like we are the only people in the world and we actually wanna see whats happening in other countries instead of seeing same story 28 times a day by god squad Gillian , scared of everything and boring as a cup of cold tea.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

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good for british diversity :clap1:


i love all these different accents

[thesheriff443]

Yes nothing like seeing a white guy from London speaking perfect Jamaican.

[arista]

good for british diversity :clap1:


i love all these different accents


Some are so Strong
you need subtitles

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/07/06/13/45098801-9760487-image-a-67_1625574109774.jpg


Vanessa's gone down
so thats why she is on 'this morning'
ITV1HD
most days

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9760487/Gary-Lineker-BBCs-highest-paid-star-1-36-million.html

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/calls-for-theresa-mays-former-aide-sir-robbie-gibb-to-resign-from-bbc-for-trying-to-block-jess-brammar-from-job-12353331

[Political row over move to appoint
Ex-Huffington Post editor to BBC
as Labour calls for former
No 10 communications chief
to be SACKED from board for 'trying to block
her appointment on political grounds'
Sir Robbie Gibb reportedly tried to stop
Jess Brammar's appointment to BBC
He is said to have felt it would damage the government's
trust in the broadcaster
Ms Brammar clashed with equalities minister
while at the helm of HuffPost UK
It comes after Tim Davie attempted to
address concerns over BBC's impartiality]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/07/10/14/45267629-9775183-image-m-143_1625922679063.jpg
Sir Robbie Gibb(pictured in May 2019)



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/07/10/14/45267627-9775183-image-m-142_1625922669424.jpg
[Former deputy editor of BBC Newsnight Jess Brammar]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9775183/Political-row-appoint-ex-Huffington-Post-editor-BBC.html

[Livia]

Don't watch the BBC Nicky. Leave it for those people who like it.

[Livia]

NO

if people in the dailymail can comment over the top dramatic, so can i :laugh3:


UK i no longer take serious now

You don't pay the TV licence, not sure you have the right to call for the BBC to be defunded.

[joeysteele]

#DefundtheBBC


they can do nothing right, compared to amazing perfect ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5


The licence fee should be scrapped definitely for me.
I've thought that ever since I was old enough to know one was even needed.

I rarely watch the BBC.
I prefer Sky news to the BBC.

Things I enjoyed before are shocking know.
Question Time etc.

The BBC Parliament channel is something I watch usually when debates are on or for PMQs.

Other than that, the only thing I watch is Wimbledon, football and recently the Olympics.
Which I'm sure if the BBC weren't there, other channels would dive in for.

So I'd agree to the point to removing forced payment to the BBC by the public for certain.

Good to hear from you from outside the UK the views of the BBC too.

From its publicity and actions of the last few years at least.
It's incredible the licence fee has stayed in place quite frankly.

[Swan]

#DefundtheBBC


they can do nothing right, compared to amazing perfect ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5

I mean the BBC is a load of crap for the most part, and a scam, but to say ITV/C4/C5 are perfect? Sure :laugh:

ITV is average. C4 is pathetic with how they edit almost every older tv show. And C5 has about one good show a week.

Oh a separate note though, if enough people stop paying for the BBC they'll be forced to do something and make radical changes, for the better.

[Swan]

The licence fee should be scrapped definitely for me.
I've thought that ever since I was old enough to know one was even needed.

I rarely watch the BBC.
I prefer Sky news to the BBC.

Things I enjoyed before are shocking know.
Question Time etc.

The BBC Parliament channel is something I watch usually when debates are on or for PMQs.

Other than that, the only thing I watch is Wimbledon, football and recently the Olympics.
Which I'm sure if the BBC weren't there, other channels would dive in for.

So I'd agree to the point to removing forced payment to the BBC by the public for certain.

Good to hear from you from outside the UK the views of the BBC too.

From its publicity and actions of the last few years at least.
It's incredible the licence fee has stayed in place quite frankly.

Eurosport aired the Olympics.

[joeysteele]

Eurosport aired the Olympics.

Yes indeed, you're right, I could have watched it there.

If I'm honest I have in the past been impressed by the BBC's coverage of sport.

Not in recent years however.
Even Match of the day now, is taken up with 2 other guests, all analysing what we've just watched on the highlights.

When more of the matches could be shown.
That really annoys me now.

It'll be the same this week when the premier League starts again on Friday.

[bots]

Yes indeed, you're right, I could have watched it there.

If I'm honest I have in the past been impressed by the BBC's coverage of sport.

Not in recent years however.
Even Match of the day now, is taken up with 2 other guests, all analysing what we've just watched on the highlights.

When more of the matches could be shown.
That really annoys me now.

It'll be the same this week when the premier League starts again on Friday.

it's all down to the rights that the beeb have. I'm sure they would show more games if they could, but they have been priced out the market. It's the same with all the sports these days, it's all about money

[Mystic Mock]

#DefundtheBBC


they can do nothing right, compared to amazing perfect ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5

No offence Nicky but Channel 5 are far from perfect.

I remember watching the pilot of 15 Days on Channel 5 and along with their butchery of BB, it taught me to never watch a Channel 5 Show ever again.

[Mystic Mock]

Excellent show... bit anti establishment in parts... That's why she's gone.

She's been Holby City'd?!:shocked:

[Mystic Mock]

I’ve got zero time for anybody seeking to defund the BBC. The majority of them want the exact same service that they can go to at any time for nothing and have very little idea of how life works. It’s an irreplaceable institution.

Tbf the BBC expecting people to pay a TV license when a lot of people don't even watch their channel is disgraceful conduct.

The BBC should use the HBO model in the US.

[Beso]

BBC to air the womens football season this year...


The true queen of diversity.

[arista]

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[arista]

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BBC TEXT:
[BBC Sport presenter Gavin Ramjaun has spoken
of his "disgust" after Twitter said a user who
posted a racist comment directed against him
had not violated its rules.
The paper says the BBC host reported
the comment but was told by Twitter that it did
not find a violation of its rules.]

[arista]

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[Alf]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/12C97/production/_120615967_mailonsunday-nc.pngThe old style television media is coming to an end, they're just not accepting it yet. The Internet, social media is the new media, and anyone can be a journalist now. All you need is a phone, it has basically everything you need. The legacy media are hanging on to try to save their lifestyles, but in reality they see a 9-5 job for their futures.

[Mystic Mock]

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BBC TEXT:
[BBC Sport presenter Gavin Ramjaun has spoken
of his "disgust" after Twitter said a user who
posted a racist comment directed against him
had not violated its rules.
The paper says the BBC host reported
the comment but was told by Twitter that it did
not find a violation of its rules.]

A disgusting comment from Twitter.

[arista]

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Great debate today on ITV about
the Future of the BBC.

[arista]

BBC Text :
[Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries will freeze
the BBC licence fee for two years.
"Tense" negotiations between the
government and the BBC over the annual fee
until the end of 2027 have concluded,
the paper says.
Ms Dorries has decided to keep
the licence fee at £159 for the next two years,
the paper reports, meaning the corporation
will have to find savings of more than £2bn
in the next six years.]

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[arista]

BBC licence fee/Tax

To go by 2027

I hope so.

Take it from the general tax.
I Say.


Ch4HDnews debate.

[glib]

BBC licence fee/Tax

To go by 2027

I hope so.

Take it from the general tax.
I Say.


Ch4HDnews debate.

Only bad result of that is adverts maybe on BBC
Boring to watch

[bots]

it will be some sort of subscription service. The license fee has annoyed me for a long time

[arista]

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[arista]

Now Live in Parliament

Nadine is talking.

About the Lic. Freeze/Tax for 2 years

[Crimson Dynamo]

Scrap it, dont freeze it

[arista]

Labour Shadow is shouting are you ready for repeats.

The BBC can still make shows

[arista]

Scrap it, dont freeze it


Take it out of General Tax
is the way forward.

[UserSince2005]

Obsolete BBC has to go.

[UserSince2005]

And away with the NHS while were at it please.

[arista]

Obsolete BBC has to go.


No, they want to keep it.



But the Bloated BBC
needs this 2 year Tax Freeze.

[arista]

The BBC Debate has ended.

[glib]

No, they want to keep it.



But the Bloated BBC
needs this 2 year Tax Freeze.

Just seen prize fund on Pointless is £1250 whilst on the Chase it was £50,000 the other day. Tight.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/01/17/16/53030701-10411141-Culture_Secretary_Nadine_Dorries_today_confirmed_t he_BBC_licence-a-12_1642438210492.jpg
[Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries today confirmed
the BBC licence fee will be frozen at £159
for the next two years,
as she also announced a review
into the long-term future of the annual levy]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/01/16/15/52994353-10408173-Ms_Dorries_tweeted_this_morning_that_this_licence_ fee_announceme-a-9_1642348647431.jpg


[She said: 'The BBC wanted the fee to rise
to over £180 by the end of this settlement.
Instead it will remain fixed at £159 until April 2024.]


Labour would allow the Rise.

[arista]

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https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/01/15/21/52972839-10406491-image-a-41_1642281279020.jpg
[Director-general Tim Davie (pictured)
and chairman Richard Sharp said in a message
to staff that they 'welcomed' debate
and 'look forward to engaging
in a discussion about public service
broadcasting in the UK and
how best to fund it']


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10411141/Nadine-Dorries-announces-two-year-BBC-licence-fee-freeze.html

[bots]

labour would of course support a pay rise for the bbc as it is their biggest mouthpiece

[user104658]

Time for it to go.

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

my country's national channels had a license fee too for quite a long while tbh but not anymore for over 25 years now


our new ways of funding is quite simple for NPO (AVROTROS, NOS, ZAPP) we broadcast so called STER adverts before and after each show, but we made a deal not to get ad breaks between shows (only exception is sports shows but that is pretty easy to have a ad break when there is a break in the sports event anyway)

think something like this would also work for BBC, because the main problem i have with ad breaks is if they are between shows (I HATE THAT)



i can understand people who are against this license fee, and yes some of their presenters are a bit paid too much, not even in my country they are being paid too much (those presenters salaries can be adjusted a lot, and they can do extra work by appearing in some of the ads)




but BBC has quite a lot of successes in both drama shows and reality shows

drama series successes

- Line of Duty
- Vigil
- Bodyguard

quite some of the drama mini-series are also of very high quality and with lots of great acting stars in them as well

-------
reality show successes

- Strictly Come Dancing (still millions of viewers tuning in to regular series and christmas special shows)

- The Wheel (also quite nice, and Michael McIntyre does a fantastic job and also good quality celeb experts featuring in it)


upcoming reality show - The Traitors i also expect something from your version, i myself am addicted to ours, such a strong concept game show, really gets you obsessed with if they make the right choices in unmasking a traitor or if the traitors make the right choices to remove the strongest faithful contestants

[arista]

Yes SkyMoviesHD
has ads between films

Once the Film starts no ads.

The BBC should try that.

[arista]

[David Dimbleby, 83, says the BBC licence fee
could be linked to council tax
Ex-Question Time host says it is 'inequitable' to charge
a flat annual rate of £159
He told BBC Radio 4's World At One that a fee tied
to council tax would be fairer
Journalist also admitted BBC needs to do more
to 'lockstep' with British public]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10427603/David-Dimbleby-says-BBC-strayed-bit-immigration-licence-fee-linked-tax.html


Another Idea/

[James]

I've been thinking of cancelling the TV licence - not for any ideological reason, but just to save money.


The law says you need to be covered by a TV Licence to:

watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel
watch or stream programmes live on an online TV service (such as ITV Hub, All 4, YouTube, Amazon Prime Video, Now TV, Sky Go, etc.)
download or watch any BBC programmes on BBC iPlayer.


From https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one

I basically never watch live TV now, and you don't need a licence for the BBC News, Sport and Weather apps which I use. I watch quite a lot of YouTube and Twitch though, and it is not clear if you need a licence if you want to watch those live.

I know that if, say, you watch Sky News on YouTube you are required to have a TV licence but does that apply to other YouTube and Twitch channels?


What About Twitch And Other Live Streamers?
This is where things get complicated. When TV Licence laws were first set, BBC iPlayer and streaming TV in general didn’t exist.

So for a time, there was a loophole where people who watched the BBC online via BBC iPlayer, did not need a TV licence – but that loophole was fixed in 2016.


But what about services like Twitch, where individuals (or companies) broadcast themselves live to the world? This is true for a number of services:

Twitch
YouTube Live (as opposed to on-demand, recorded content on YouTube)
Facebook Live
Instagram Live
And the list goes on and on. A reader even sent us a question regarding live video streams of Church services – do you need a TV licence to watch those live?

The official TV Licensing website says, regarding YouTube, that “any programme which is part of a TV channel, broadcast or transmitted for everyone to watch at the same time” needs a TV licence.

Furthermore, “Online-only TV channels still count as live TV, so you need a TV Licence if you’re watching or recording their programmes.”

With the wording being a bit vague, it’s no wonder some think Twitch and other live streams from individuals do need a TV Licence.


We took this question to the BBC, where a spokesperson told us that – No, the Twitch scenario (and the live Church broadcast) would not require a TV Licence.

But then, how does one tell the difference between a live broadcast (on Twitch, for example) that DOESN’T need a TV licence, and a live broadcast (live news coverage from Sky News on YouTube, for example) that DOES need a TV Licence?

In the past, the official answer was that anything that is ALSO available on a linear broadcast channel (on TV) – would require a licence if you’re watching it live on a different medium.

But, again, with many TV “channels” now only existing on online platforms – that answer is no longer relevant.



So I queried the BBC further, and was told that “For a service to require a licence to watch” [even if you’re watching it streamed online], “it must be a ‘television programme service'”.

The TV Licensing body would have to make that distinction, however. Some of the factors that would be taken into account when considering this are:

Whether a service has a regular schedule of programmes
How continuous a service is
Editorial control and consistency
The quality of production and editorial values.
Therefore, since most Twitch (and similar) live streams don’t come from a body that resembles a “television programme service” – you would not need a TV licence for them.


That's a bit vague.

From https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/do-i-need-a-tv-licence-twitch-youtube-live/

[arista]

[I've been thinking of cancelling the TV licence - not for any ideological reason,
but just to save money.]


Can you
not hang on.
And await the Government changing it.

[arista]

[What about BBC iPlayer?

You also need to be covered to download
or watch BBC programmes on BBC iPlayer – live, catch up
or on demand. This applies to any device and provider you use.]

Catch up is no longer free on the BBC.



And Twitch is owned by Amazon USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitch_(service)



[I only watch non-UK channels, do I need a licence?

Yes, you need a TV Licence to watch any
TV channels live (broadcast or online),
even if these are from outside the UK.
This applies no matter what device you’re using.]

[James]

[What about BBC iPlayer?

You also need to be covered to download
or watch BBC programmes on BBC iPlayer – live, catch up
or on demand. This applies to any device and provider you use.]


Catch up is no longer free on the BBC.

I don't use iPlayer either. :blush:

[arista]

I don't use iPlayer either. :blush:



Fair enough
but as you have a TV
even using outside UK feed
they still want their £169 Tax each year.

[MTVN]

I think it would be very difficult to not use anything that is covered by a TV license :think:

Just read that it's less than a third of the price if you have a black and white TV which is rather quaint

[James]

About the only thing I would want to see that is covered is the World Cup this year. But then I could get a licence then, and cancel it afterwards.

[bots]

i rarely watch live tv now, i would much rather pay subscriptions for things i do want to watch

[James]

I've realised that if I ever subscribed to a live TV service eg. Sky Sports I would need a licence again so maybe I won't cancel it.

[arista]

SkyText: [Home Secretary Priti Patel has accused the BBC of
exhibiting an "undercurrent" of xenophobia when
reporting on the government's immigration deal with Rwanda,
The Sunday Times reports.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/29B4/production/_124267601_tele-nc.jpg

[arista]

[BBC to cut number of programmes it makes,
says director general

[The BBC will cut the number of programmes
it makes and consider turning more television
and radio stations into archive services,
according to the corporation’s director general.

Tim Davie is preparing to announce deep cuts
to BBC output in the coming weeks,
with staff nervously wondering whether
their programmes or channels will be axed.
The corporation estimates it needs to find
another £285m in annual savings as a result
of government-imposed cuts to its budget.

Davie said the era of the BBC trying
to do “everything with every service” was
no longer viable because it ended up
spreading itself “too thin”.

Speculation has been rife within the BBC
that entire channels could be taken off air
to meet financial targets.
Davie suggested that while the media loved
to talk about the BBC taking channels off air,
real savings came from simply reducing the
spending on a channel’s content.]


[He said his focus was on maximising the value
the BBC’s licence fee payers got for their
£13 a month.
“We’re not trying to be Netflix, we’re going to be
highly distinctive and of the highest quality.”]


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/apr/27/bbc-cut-number-programmes-tim-davie-director-general

[arista]

Tim

The Highest Quality is on SkyHD
in loads of 4K Channels.

Many of the BBC Studio Cameras are Still only 720P

[arista]

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-54864eb3-dcb1-4c10-8457-366f0007aa5b.jpg?bypass-service-worker&

[Kizzy]

Government controlling the media... still denying a lurch toward autocracy?

[bots]

i am absolutely 100% against people (particularly the elderly) being processed as criminals for watching a TV. It's so disproportionate and unfair

[arista]

In the next 3 Years BBC4 TV & CBBC TV will move online
Also BBC4extra radio on DAB to move online
Radio 4 long-way band will be deleted

BBCnews and BBC World News will merge.
Of course from 7pm they already are.


£200 Million savings

https://www.scotsman.com/news/national/bbc-cuts-cbbc-and-bbc-four-to-be-axed-to-make-space-for-digital-first-bbc-3710373

[arista]

1529911565243273227

[arista]

BBC South Today Oxford bulletin to be axed in November

So they will merge it with Southampton BBC Local News

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-61593568


The regional news programme
in Cambridge is also being axed
as part of the cuts, it was announced.

[arista]

[Paul Siegert, the NUJ's national broadcasting organiser,
called the announcement
a "direct consequence of the government's
decision to refuse to fund the BBC adequately".

He added: "The two year freeze on the
licence fee has left the BBC with some
tough decisions to make.

"It's the second restructuring
for BBC England in the past two years,
and a clear sign that the first process
was ill-thought through and
poorly implemented."]

[Oliver_W]

In the next 3 Years BBC4 TV & CBBC TV will move online
Also BBC4extra radio on DAB to move online
Radio 4 long-way band will be deleted

BBCnews and BBC World News will merge.
Of course from 7pm they already are.


£200 Million savings

https://www.scotsman.com/news/national/bbc-cuts-cbbc-and-bbc-four-to-be-axed-to-make-space-for-digital-first-bbc-3710373
Why not move BBC3 online?

I mean, which audience is more likely to want to watch something on their main TV - someone who'd watch the kinds of documentaries and retrospectives BBC4 puts out ... Or someone who watches the crap on BBC3?

[bots]

the way its going, all their content will be on iplayer and their news channel on the normal channels. That sets it up nicely for a subscription model in the future

[arista]

Why not move BBC3 online?

I mean, which audience is more likely to want to watch something on their main TV - someone who'd watch the kinds of documentaries and retrospectives BBC4 puts out ... Or someone who watches the crap on BBC3?



Of Course they spent big money
Promoting BBC3 on its return to TV.

So BBC3 was only online for a few years,

It is shame BBC4 TV is going online
but it will be a few years, yet
they still have to give a date

[arista]

the way its going, all their content will be on iplayer and their news channel on the normal channels. That sets it up nicely for a subscription model in the future


The Mega saving on their News Channel
is a big Cull, on staff.


BBC World News with Merge with BBCnews

[arista]

BBC Text : The salaries of the BBC's top earners,
which have been disclosed in the
corporation's annual report.
The paper says Match Of The Day
presenter Gary Lineker earns £1.35m for
"doing a job our readers could do standing on their heads".


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/11132/production/_125883996_star-nc.png

[Swan]

Lineker is such a nob tbh. Imagine being locked in a room with him and Schofield?!!

Anyway, whatever the BBC pays it wont be affecting me.

[Zizu]

Lineker is such a nob tbh. Imagine being locked in a room with him and Schofield?!!

Anyway, whatever the BBC pays it wont be affecting me.


It’s always ‘bothered’ me that GL presents as such a nice , squeaky clean individual whilst his brother is reportedly the exact opposite


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXoMhhsUIAEBbKV?format=png&name=small

[arista]

Vanessa also Works for ITV

Greedy Sod

[Nicky91]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXoMhhsUIAEBbKV?format=png&name=small

Ken, Huw, Alan deserve that high salary


i sometimes listen to Ken's radio show, he's a good radio presenter, also a nice quiz game of his too on that



Huw is a news legend enough said


and Alan, well i always have liked him in his playing days and now as a pundit :love:

[Swan]

Vanessa also Works for ITV

Greedy Sod

I mean GL worked for BT as well.

[bots]

it's ultimately the persons popularity that dictates the salary they are paid. Someone in high demand will always command the big bucks

[Swan]

People should honestly just stop paying this scam.

[Mystic Mock]

It’s always ‘bothered’ me that GL presents as such a nice , squeaky clean individual whilst his brother is reportedly the exact opposite


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Tbf we shouldn't judge Gary Lineker off his Brother's actions, good or bad.

[arista]

People should honestly just stop paying this scam.


An 86 year old lady
phoned Ch5HD Extra Live

They phone you back.


She can no longer afford the BBC TV Tax
or her heating in the winter.



So she will have a Radio only on
this winter.

[Swan]

An 86 year old lady
phoned Ch5HD Extra Live

They phone you back.


She can no longer afford the BBC TV Tax
or her heating in the winter.



So she will have a Radio only on
this winter.

Well she should just watch her telly and tell the BBC to sod off.

[bots]

i think there will be uproar if their charter is renewed

[arista]

[Council tax levy
could replace TV licence fee in future funding model]


[The TV licence fee could be abolished
and replaced with a new levy on council tax bills,
according to a House of Lords committee
that looked at the best way to fund
the BBC in the future.
Under the proposal, all households would
pay for the BBC through their
local authority bill,
with low-earning families paying less
for the broadcaster’s services.
This would end the traditional link
to owning a television set and ensure
that people who only use the
BBC’s online or radio services
also have to pay to use them.

“We see quite a lot of potential advantages to it,
” said the Conservative peer Tina Stowell,
who chairs the cross-party House of Lords
communications and digital committee.]





Yes Do It
get rid of that Direct Tax.
Monthly Direct Debit


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jul/18/council-tax-levy-bbc-tv-licence-fee-future-funding-model

[Swan]

That's even more draconian than the current system.

They run and own the following -
Alibi
Dave
Drama
Eden
Gold
W
Yesterday

Some are pay channels, some on 'freeview' yet ALL have around 15 mins of ads an hour. They also sell the rights to tons of shows that we pay a license for to streaming sites. A TV license in this, or any day and age is preposterous. Just a complete scam and BBC are laughing all the way to the bank, as are all their top earners.

[Gusto Brunt]

Subcription-only service. Solved. I'd say no thanks. :p

[bots]

i don't want my community charge going up by 140 or whatever a year to pay for a service i don't want. The licence fee must end full stop, not transferred to another payment bucket

[arista]

i don't want my community charge going up by 140 or whatever a year to pay for a service i don't want. The licence fee must end full stop, not transferred to another payment bucket


No
as it will be Everyone
in the UK
it will be a lot less


Better than a monthly Direct Debit

[bots]

a lot less is not zero. i want zero licence fee

[Swan]

The most revolting part is it doesn't even matter if you don't watch anything BBC related, you still HAVE to pay the BBC anyway because you watch other TV channels.

[arista]

a lot less is not zero. i want zero licence fee


Not yet

[arista]

[The BBC will cut the number of programmes
it makes and consider turning more
television and radio stations into archive services,
according to the corporation’s director general.

Tim Davie is preparing to announce
deep cuts to BBC output in the coming weeks,
with staff nervously wondering whether
their programmes or channels will be axed.
The corporation estimates it needs
to find another £285m in annual savings
as a result of government-imposed
cuts to its budget.
Davie said the era of the BBC trying
to do “everything with every service”
was no longer viable because
it ended up spreading itself “too thin”.]


Guardian Media.

[arista]

Reported
today 70 London based
reporters workers are to be axed.

Due to the Merger of BBCnews and BBC World News.


Unions are thinking of a Strike.

Some BBC news workers
are refusing to strike,


Not being debated on the BBC

It was just debated on GBnewsHD

[arista]

That's even more draconian than the current system.

They run and own the following -
Alibi
Dave
Drama
Eden
Gold
W
Yesterday

Some are pay channels, some on 'freeview' yet ALL have around 15 mins of ads an hour. They also sell the rights to tons of shows that we pay a license for to streaming sites. A TV license in this, or any day and age is preposterous. Just a complete scam and BBC are laughing all the way to the bank, as are all their top earners.


No they Co-Own them
that is not like owning the channel.
And they Do not run them

[arista]

BBC text:
[Friday night's episode of BBC One's
Have I Got News for You which was
dedicated to Boris Johnson.
The paper says the show has been
accused of broadcasting
"spiteful and crass" insults.
The BBC says the show has a
"long history of making jokes about politicians
of all hues".]


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/D9A6/production/_126581755_mailonsunday-nc.png.webp

[arista]

Live in Parliament


A labour MP warned BBC Local radio with now end at 2PM.

BBC is to cut back their Local Radio

[The BBC said all 39 local radio stations
will continue with their own dedicated
local programming from 6am to 2pm on weekdays.
After 2pm the BBC will produce
18 afternoon programmes across England
that will be shared between stations.]


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/31/bbc-confirms-it-will-cut-jobs-local-radio-overhaul

[bots]

they need to shake up their news output, it's dreadful these days

[arista]

they need to shake up their news output, it's dreadful these days

They have,
when you go on BBCnewsHD
it is what they send out abroad.


Hence, non-regular presenters

[arista]

also confirmed Oxford and
Cambridge TV operations will close mid-December.]
31 Oct 2022



BBC Oxfords last day today
on local TV news.

[arista]

1603836803919888385

[arista]

Sky news text:
[The BBC spent £7m on new logos
as part of a "digital re-branding"
earlier this year.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-35ec6ad0-8902-42c3-b9ad-dd031f9910c7.png

[arista]

Michelle Donelan MP
Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport


Has Given long interview
to the BBCnewsHD/radio4 Media Show

Watch her on this link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001hckw/the-media-show-what-the-culture-minister-really-thinks


She has a Good Attitude
believing an Evidence Based report
will be done on the Future of the TV Licence (TAX)

She stated it will have to change


The BBC media presenter stated
The BBC is spending £10million
in Liverpool,
for the Eurovision.

[arista]

Many leaving as BBCNews as it merges with BBC World News
to all save on money.


Joanna Gosling announced her exit on Twitter
after 23 years with the BBC

[She is due to go off air on January 26
but has not told people her next steps
Gosling opted for voluntary redundancy
along with David Eades and Tim Willcox
Ms Gosling fought*back tears when reporting
on the death of three Solihull boys]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/01/14/13/66572333-11635045-image-m-3_1673701419345.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11635045/BBC-News-presenter-Joanna-Gosling-overwhelmed-fan-praise-quits-23-year-career.html

[arista]

Posting this paper again
for the BBC on their Front Page

Alarming story of a New £13 Rise for the BBC TV Tax
from 2024

That's Outrageous
I would want BBC4HD to stay on TV
and not go online,
which is the new BBC plan

2024 plan for new £179 a year Licence Fee TAX

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-67411bcb-a5b7-4173-a205-db860d9d28b3.png

[Mystic Mock]

Instead of doing that just make Shows that people actually want to watch.

[arista]

SkyNews Text :
[The BBC has found itself at the centre
of a fresh storm after controversial plans
to raise the licence fee were revealed,
the Daily Express writes.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-a79c4529-7c65-49c2-9d23-02c2f8801977.png

[arista]

BBCnewsHD today Live Apologised
for showing the Live Debate Congress about TikTok


They were talking, but then a Video started showing People
on ticktock talking of killing themselves.


The Old BBC fella, presenter
said sorry &
"we did not know they were going into Graphic Videos?"

[arista]

The BBC Axed the BBC singers
all due to get sacked.
Massive amounts of angry posts

But now some other organisations
are going to Co-Fund them.


Ref: Times Radio Live.

[arista]

1639198266716827650

[arista]

[BBC to cut 1,000 hours of new
TV programming in 2023 to save money

The BBC is to broadcast 1,000
fewer hours of new TV programmes this year
as part of a drive to save money.

The broadcaster made about 12,500
"originated hours" in 2022.

Half of the 1,000-hour cut will come from sport,
with fewer major events in 2023. Elsewhere,
BBC Four is showing more material from the archives.
The BBC must find £400m in annual savings
by 2027/28, according to the corporation's
latest annual plan, which was published on Thursday.
It said the current freeze of the price of a
TV licence "continues to place significant financial
challenges on the BBC at a time of high inflation
and media super-inflation".]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-65129480


The Buggers

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04/15/23/69873165-0-image-m-102_1681598039247.jpg


[Top BBC presenters including
Huw Edwards,
Reeta Chakrabarti,
Clive Myrie and
Sophie Raworth get bombshell redundancy letters
as the Beeb tries to save millions
The cash-strapped BBC is trying to save costs
by restructuring its news division
Furious insiders say it has caused already
low staff morale to plummet further
Huw Edwards received the letter despite
recently signing a new three-year deal]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11976973/Top-BBC-presenters-including-Huw-Edwards-Sophie-Raworth-redundancy-letters.html

[bots]

they have been on a jolly for years, no tears from me

[arista]

they have been on a jolly for years, no tears from me


Sure, they are costing a Fortune

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1647345580610297860/I1t0v7tA?format=jpg&name=small

[bots]

£1.7m right there

[arista]

BBC news has made a mega change,
in the mornings
until 11AM they are showing Radio 5 Live Debate
Nicky Campbell.

This is saving them big money
no News Presenter to be paid early AM.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I had the misfortune to "have" to listen to 5 live at the weekend as i was driving and i wanted to hear the West Ham game and it wasn't on TS

JP was the commentator and the continual breaks to go to some fecking rugby game in Exeter and some womans football game was infuriating - no one listening to West Ham v Arsenal gives 2 hoots about either so why they did it time and again is just crazy. Poor JP had to "pretend" to be interested in the woman's game but he wasnt fooling anyone.

No wonder the listening figures are going straight down the pan

absolute shambles :facepalm:

[Alf]

AjmY614BD1I

[Alf]

AjmY614BD1IAlways remember that Attenborough was head of BBC whilst Jimmy Saville was prowling around those corridors.

Do you think he was oblivious to it? I don't.

[Alf]

Who killed Jill Dando?

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-237467ea-536b-4d7e-9dff-adce2b53b0fe.png

[arista]

Great News

Live on BBC1HD

Lucy Frazer Conservative MP
[Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport]

Confirmed The Licence Fee is not
the only way to raise funding


She will come again on Laura
with her finished plan

[arista]

https://twitter.com/NickyHorne/status/1661103573659267072

[arista]

Radio 4 flagship Today loses 800,000 listeners in a year
to podcasts and rivals

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/may/18/radio-4-flagship-today-loses-800000-listeners-in-a-year-to-podcasts-and-rivals

[Nicky91]

#DefundBBC

#BlameCreepyPredatorHuwEdwards

[arista]

#DefundBBC

#BlameCreepyPredatorHuwEdwards


Yes Valid Point
he is doing Damage

[Liam-]

It’s not going anywhere, no matter how much Murdoch and his gaggle of tories want it to

[bots]

It’s not going anywhere, no matter how much Murdoch and his gaggle of tories want it to

the fact you just said that shows you think the bbc is politically aligned to yourself

[Liam-]

the fact you just said that shows you think the bbc is politically aligned to yourself

Maybe if your reading comprehension is low, sure

[Nicky91]

It’s not going anywhere, no matter how much Murdoch and his gaggle of tories want it to

it has to


same goes for ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5

no more tv for you brits


time to be put to work 24/7 in the coal mines

[Zizu]

Sadly this will all blow over very soon

Nothing will change


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

The BBC has apologised after one of its
reporters asked Morocco’s football captain
an “inappropriate” question before the team’s
World Cup match against Germany on Monday.

Morocco’s debut at the tournament in Australia
made it the first Arab and north African team
to qualify for the Women’s World Cup.
But it was an “unethical” and “dangerous” question
directed at the team’s captain,
Ghizlane Chebbak, about LGBTQ+ rights
that has since taken centre stage.

“In Morocco it’s illegal to have a gay relationship.
Do you have any gay players in your squad,
and what’s life like for them in Morocco?”
the BBC reporter asked at the post-match
media conference in Melbourne.


Laws that discriminate against women
and LGBTQ+ individuals remain in place in Morocco.
Acts between members of the same sex,
referred to as “sexual deviancy”,
are punishable with up to three years in prison,
according to Human Rights Watch.

In response to the question, Chebbak winced,
removed her ear piece and looked to her coach,
Reynald Pedros, before laughing.
A Fifa official interjected:
“Sorry, this is a very political question,”
and asked the reporter to stick to questions
relating to football.


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jul/25/bbc-apologises-lgbtq-rights-question-morocco-captain-womens-world-cup

What a stupid BBC Reporter
not sticking to Football.

[bots]

it was obviously intentional, so the person should be fired

[UserSince2005]

Get it and the NHS gone NOW!

[arista]

£1.7m right there


[The BBC is facing a crisis over a £1.7bn
pension bill for on-screen talent and executives.
According to the paper, the national broadcaster
is locked in a legal battle attempting
to reduce payouts.]


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-cd104e52-3bca-4858-9a30-dd012a9504f5.png

[Livia]

The BBC is now just the PR wing of Hamas.

[arista]

The BBC is now just the PR wing of Hamas.


Yes,
it is massive Error of their BBC News Editors
to not use "Terrorist"


GBnewsHD/
SkyNewsHD/
CNN HD/
Talk TV/
France24/
WION HD/
& Euro News

All call Hamas "Terrorist" group, they are.

[Livia]

Yes,
it is massive Error of their BBC News Editors
to not use "Terrorist"


GBnewsHD/
SkyNewsHD/
CNN HD/
Talk TV/
France24/
WION HD/
& Euro News

All call Hamas "Terrorist" group, they are.

Yes they are... It's not just the BBC sadly, plenty of news channels in the west have been parroting Hamas propaganda and later having to issue a retraction. The hospital bombing is a prime example. People who support Hamas still believe it was Israel that was to blame.

I have totally given up watching the BBC, which is run by Islington Guardianista Remainers hilariously telling people "It's your BBC".

[bots]

i read the explanation the BBC gave for not calling hamas terrorists and basically it was because they have a world wide audience that they don't want to offend. I am forced by law to pay for that?

[Livia]

i read the explanation the BBC gave for not calling hamas terrorists and basically it was because they have a world wide audience that they don't want to offend. I am forced by law to pay for that?

Farcical...

[OnTheRight]

Defund the BBC.

[Oliver_W]

i read the explanation the BBC gave for not calling hamas terrorists and basically it was because they have a world wide audience that they don't want to offend. I am forced by law to pay for that?

Some people deserve to be offended.

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Rishi Sunak is expected to block
a planned 9% rise in the BBC licence fee
and force the corporation to accept
a smaller increase, according to
The Daily Telegraph.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-ce749751-5175-426c-9f02-321d254e88a2.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-5e4c009b-b7d2-4b31-a169-461cd1f3ea1a.jpeg

[Swan]

I really hope this is enough for others to stop paying this.

[Mystic Mock]

Sky News Text:
[Rishi Sunak is expected to block
a planned 9% rise in the BBC licence fee
and force the corporation to accept
a smaller increase, according to
The Daily Telegraph.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-ce749751-5175-426c-9f02-321d254e88a2.png

I will actually give Sunak a lot of respect here if he can pull this off.

It's rare that I give any Political leader credit, and as he is the UK leader there's extra pride in it if he can do something good.:bawling::joker:

But seriously I hope he isn't giving the public false hope.

[bots]

it's the fact that the BBC take old folks to court for not paying their tv licence and then try to bump up the price. It's insane

[arista]

Starmer just Live
last question, He was asked will he Stop the BBC Price Rise?

He said he will see what Conservative Lucy Frazer MP
does first.

Then he will, announce their plan for the BBC

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The Daily Telegraph reports the government's
recommendations that regulator Ofcom should
gain enforcement action over
BBC News website articles it does
not believe meet relevant broadcast standards.
"BBC faces tougher scrutiny over bias",
reads the paper's headline.]


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3a01f86b-6598-4e5b-ab8d-ce37ac7f3271.jpeg

[bots]

i'm all for having a trusted source, provided it is actually something that can be trusted .... and that remains to be seen.

The other thing is that it won't be a place for instant news as every story will need to be verified before it's published

[arista]

BBC News Text :
[Mail on Sunday is its report that a
BBC editor was
"paid to give expert witness evidence"
in a number of deportation appeals
by Somali nationals.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1452C/production/_132544238_cropmail0302-nc.png.webp

[arista]

BBC2HD went Live in BBC London Central

He had 4 Monitors behind the reporter
One was turned off the other all had BBC News Image
I could also see loads of Monitors no staff



I am paying for that
Each month with the BBC TAX.



Turn off all those monitors


STOP burning Public Money Poxy BBC

[arista]

https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/GettyImages-1240296192-e1689085329528.jpg?w=681&h=383&crop=1


BBC CEO Tim Davie

would like richer folk
to pay more?

He would like more cash


Newspaper headline:
BBC could make wealthy pay more
for licence fee in radical overhaul



[The BBC could turn its back on a flat fee
and means-test TV licences,
with richer households paying more.

Director general Tim Davie said
he is open to a “more progressive” way
of funding the corporation,
as he revealed the
“biggest-ever consultation process”
on its future.

He told a Royal Television Society (RTS)
event in London that the broadcaster
is planning to “proactively research”
how it will reform the system after
its current charter agreement ends in 2027.]


[A new approach will consider
“its scope, how it could be more
progressive and making sure
its enforcement is fair and proportionate,
” he said in a speech.

It follows an article in
The Independent on Tuesday in which
he agreed with critics that the
corporation has no
“God-given right to exist”,
warning that it must not be defensive,
complacent or arrogant.
“The BBC can only ever be as
important and relevant as the
positive impact we have on
society,” he wrote.]


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bbc-tim-davie-director-general-strategy-b2518305.html

[arista]

The rest from that
Independent newspaper link:

[The licence fee has been frozen
for two years at £159 but last year
the government announced it would
use a lower rate of inflation to set
the household charge from
April at £169.50 a year,
putting Mr Davie under pressure
to balance the BBC’s books.

Likely changes include the rebuilding
of online services, investing in programmes
and raising commercial income.
This could include new partnerships
with global groups,
with the recent deal with Disney over the
screening of Doctor Who thought
to signal a way forward.

Meanwhile, long-running programmes
could be cut and further jobs lost,
particularly at TV channels and
radio stations.]

[Mr Davie, who has been in charge of the BBC
for four years, said the corporation supported
and nurtured democracy while warning
of a mounting global challenge with
hostile countries investing heavily
in technology to spread disinformation.

However, the BBC has been embroiled in
several controversies since he took over,
including deciding not to call
Hamas militants “terrorists” in the wake
of the 7 October attacks on Israel,
taking Gary Lineker off air briefly last year,
and an inquiry finding Martin Bashir
had breached editorial conduct
in obtaining the 1995 interview
with Princess Diana.]



[Mr Davie said the corporation is
“not defensive about the future”
and believes it “will need reform”.

“There is no doubt that the market
has changed hugely since the licence fee
was introduced and I think it is right
to ask fundamental questions about its
longevity in a world that is
now [given] so much
choice,” he said in his speech.

“We should not create another commercial
walled garden or a narrow BBC that
provides a niche service for the most
hardcore users.
The very wonder of the BBC is that
quality news sits next to genres such
as drama and sport,
thus ensuring widespread engagement.
This is a precious ecosystem.”]



[He noted that those over age 74 who
receive pension credit are entitled to
apply for a free licence
and said he is open to considering who
else could receive concessions.

He added: “That doesn’t necessarily
imply means-testing, there could be
a number of ways you could make
it progressive. I just think the idea
we’re just sitting where we’re at is the wrong one.”

However, he confirmed he believes a
licence fee should still be in place in
some capacity as he feels it is important
that everyone has a “stake” in it.


[“We are curiously really accountable
to the British public for that value.
And I think that connection is really
important and it keeps BBC on its
toes in a way which I think is
really helpful,” he added.

Earlier this year, the culture secretary
Lucy Frazer said the corporation
“needs to adapt” to the reforms or risk
“losing the trust of the audience it relies on”.]

[bots]

no chance, they can't have a model where it's mandatory to pay

[arista]

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1772780858958585905

[Swan]

Just stop paying it, it's that simple. It will force them to change.

[arista]

Just stop paying it, it's that simple. It will force them to change.


Older Ladies are in jail
for doing just that.

[arista]

TV Tax has now gone up £10:50


[The increase will now be £10.50 in 2024,
rather than an expected £15 for the year,
taking the price of a TV licence to £169
a year from April 2024.
The decision to raise it by a smaller
percentage will leave an expected funding
gap of around £90m.]



This should be gone by now


CEO Tim Davie
Take a pay cut.

Sack Gary

[Ammi]

…surely the thing is to stop watching in any and all capacities, not just to stop paying…not paying but still watching at all, to me just gives the message that something worthy of the cost is still being given…a complete boycott/shunning/avoidance would/could be the only way that would bring about any significant change…in my thoughts, anyway…don’t pay/don’t watch/do both…

[Ammi]

…is it an April Fool…?…it’s been scrapped and disposed of and binned, hasn’t it…

[arista]

…is it an April Fool…?…it’s been scrapped and disposed of and binned, hasn’t it…



No

£10:50 added to our TV Tax.

[thesheriff443]

I stopped paying in July last year but I also stopped watching tv so I’m totally legal

The letters started coming reminders then more threatening ones
Then ones telling me I was going to get visit
I had two visits one when I was not at home and one when I was still in bed looked out the window saw a tv goon but left him standing on the door step for ten minutes didn’t answer the door

Since then I’ve had no letters or visits

[bots]

there will be some element of public broadcast that continues into the future, but i can see things like eastenders, strictly etc going behind a pay wall

[Crimson Dynamo]

I stopped paying in July last year but I also stopped watching tv so I’m totally legal

The letters started coming reminders then more threatening ones
Then ones telling me I was going to get visit
I had two visits one when I was not at home and one when I was still in bed looked out the window saw a tv goon but left him standing on the door step for ten minutes didn’t answer the door

Since then I’ve had no letters or visits

I stopped must be 2 years ago now

[arista]

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[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c1ee8636-04b5-4b4b-b875-0dd8bbc2ff94.jpeg

The Top Earners
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/23/15/87669915-13663753-image-a-109_1721744334660.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13663753/Huw-Edwards-pay-BBC-Tim-Davie-annual-report.html

[Mystic Mock]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-84978355-585a-4cbd-a305-d9f084cfa651.png

Well the pro dancers aren't wrong.

The only one that's genuinely shown poor conduct from what's being said is Graziano, everyone else appears to be being scapegoated.

It's disgusting to see tbh.

[arista]

More Good Staff to be Sacked



[The BBC has announced its
latest round of job cuts,
involving a net reduction of
130 roles across news
and current affairs departments,
as part of a wider cost-cutting drive.

The chief executive of BBC News,
Deborah Turness, announced the changes
in an email on Tuesday,
saying the corporation sought to cut 185 roles
and open 55 new ones with the aim of saving
£24m, amounting to 4% of the
current news budget.

The BBC’s long-running world affairs
news programme HARDtalk and
the BBC Asian Network’s bespoke
news service will be axed.
broadcaster also said it would synchronise the
production of news bulletins
used on Radio 5 Live and Radio 2 and
domestic radio
would take summaries from
the World Service.]


[The plans announced today will also see
HARDtalk close by March 2025]

[“The BBC talks about diversity, representation
and underserved audiences. We tick all of
those boxes,” Raj Kaur Bilkhu, a former senior
journalist at BBC Asian Network News, said.
"I’m angry and upset for the audience." ]


[The cuts are part of broader efforts by the
broadcaster to cut 500 jobs across the
corporation by March 2026.

Three former and current employees
at BBC Asian Network criticised the
removal of its bespoke news service,
telling the Guardian the decision was
a disservice to the BBC’s audiences.
As part of the changes, the network will
instead begin airing Newsbeat bulletins
which are used on Radio 1 and 1Xtra.]


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/oct/15/bbc-announces-net-reduction-of-130-news-and-current-affairs-jobs

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1573374176819380225/NKqEtjXs_400x400.jpg

Deborah Turness
CEO, BBC News and Current Affairs

The Lady in Charge
sacking over 130 staff.

[arista]

Martin Lewis' wife Lara Lewington
Sacked by BBC after 15 years

That will save the BBC Cash

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/16/12/90920179-13966035-image-a-107_1729078181421.jpg
Her talking to the Robot that wants her job


[Martin Lewis's wife Lara Lewington has
confirmed that her BBC show Click
has been pulled from screens after
15 years - and fans are not happy
with the decision.

The TV star and tech expert, 45, shared the news
with viewers who responded with an
outpouring of support - praising what was
described as a 'unique show' and criticising
the corporation for the decision.

Click has been the BBC's weekly flagship
technology programme, covering news
and recent developments in the world
of the internet and tech.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tv/article-13966035/Martin-Lewis-wife-Lara-Lewington-bbc-click-axed.html

[Beso]

Huw Edward's to host, if it returns.

[arista]

Huw Edward's to host, if it returns.

No, he is banned from BBC
all the young lads working in Central London
now safe.

[arista]

THe CEO Live on BBCnewsHD

Smirking
about his A.I. help/

He says we can Trust him?
but that Dirty newsreader was under your nose

[arista]

He is talking about Doubling Studios

Of course, with his partnerships

[arista]

He is Live in Salford

He must learn not to SMIRK

[arista]

Now taking Questions
from a local reporter seated

Audience of his Workers and Partners

He just said we are the biggest broadcaster?

[arista]

First Question from Australia ABC presenter
Who asks when will this expansion happen?

BBC CEO Tim
Then says it depends on the Government...............................

[bots]

Click was a tragic tech program. It was tech for people that didn't understand tech

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b58206c4-e522-42f7-8d29-580f119c1996.jpeg

[Nicky91]

#DefundTheBBC


Get Rid of the Woke BBC entirely please

[_Seth]

Older Ladies are in jail
for doing just that.

Oh no they're not, you just made that up.