Derek Mackay: Scottish finance secretary quits amid messages claims

[bots]

Scotland's finance secretary has quit hours before delivering his budget over claims he messaged a 16-year-old boy on social media.

The Scottish Sun reported that Derek Mackay contacted the boy over a six-month period, and told him that he was "cute".

Mr Mackay said he had "behaved foolishly" and took full responsibility for his actions.

And he apologised "unreservedly" to the boy and his family.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said she had accepted Mr Mackay's resignation, adding: "Derek has made a significant contribution to government, however he recognises that his behaviour has failed to meet the standards required."

The newspaper detailed allegations that the 42-year-old politician contacted the boy "out of the blue" and sent about 270 messages on Instagram and through Facebook.

It has published a list of conversations involving Mr Mackay and the boy, in which its says the SNP MSP invited him to dinner and to attend a rugby event.

In one of the exchanges it is claimed that Mr Mackay told the teenager he was "cute". In another the boy confirmed he was 16 and tells Mr Mackay "not to try anything".

The paper also quotes the boy's mother calling for Mr Mackay to be removed from his post.

Mr Mackay, who has been widely tipped as a future first minister, came out as gay when he left his wife in 2013.

The allegations come on the same day he was due to present the Scottish government's spending plans for the next year - a major set piece event in the Scottish Parliament.

He had signalled his intention to spend more on projects to tackle climate change in his budget, but will need the support of other parties to pass his plans.

Mr Mackay would have been putting the finishing touches to his preparations when he was contacted by the Scottish Sun on Wednesday evening, before the newspaper released the story at 23:20.

The budget will now be presented by the public finance minister, Kate Forbes.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-51397956

[arista]

Was on GMBHD it newsflash
And SkyNewsHD


A 16 year old boy
has had hundreds of messages

https://news.sky.com/story/snp-minister-derek-mackay-resigns-over-claims-he-befriended-teenage-boy-online-11927382

[When the teenager says they are, Mr Mackay is alleged to have
then replied: "Cool, then to be honest I think you are really cute."
According to The Sun, the minister contacted the
boy over a six-month period.
Mr Mackay offered to take him to a rugby game
and out to dinner, the newspaper reported.
Speaking before his resignation, the teenager's mother
called for Ms Sturgeon to sack him.]

[bots]

my thread beat yours by a minute :laugh:

[arista]

my thread beat yours by a minute :laugh:


Sure
slow computer

[Beso]

Creepy bastard

[arista]

Creepy bastard

[When the teenager says they are, Mr Mackay is alleged to have
then replied: "Cool, then to be honest I think you are really cute."
According to The Scottish Sun, the minister contacted the
boy over a six-month period.
Mr Mackay offered to take him to a rugby game
and out to dinner, the newspaper reported.
Speaking before his resignation, the teenager's mother
called for Ms Sturgeon to sack him.]

https://news.sky.com/story/snp-minister-derek-mackay-resigns-over-claims-he-befriended-teenage-boy-online-11927382

[Mystic Mock]

16 is the legal age of consent in the UK, so why are the Media/SNP acting like he has committed an offence?

[arista]

16 is the legal age of consent in the UK, so why are the Media/SNP acting like he has committed an offence?

Because he may have been 15 at the start
and his Dirty Texts are in the paper

[Kizzy]

There are plenty of creepy bastards in politics...but a creepy green bastard? ... he had to go.

[user104658]

16 is the legal age of consent in the UK, so why are the Media/SNP acting like he has committed an offence?

It's still massively inappropriate for a politician in his 40's to be messaging a 16-year-old. I mean IMO, it's pretty gross for ANYONE to do it, but you're right it's technically not illegal. But elected officials have to be held to a slightly higher standard than that.

[user104658]

There are plenty of creepy bastards in politics...but a creepy green bastard? ... he had to go.

To be fair Kizzy I don't think any politician would survive a story about sending messages to a 16 year old.

[edit to add] Well, Trump obviously would because he's made of Teflon. But that's another issue.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/06/07/24381744-7971903-image-a-4_1580975095224.jpg
Back in 2011 with his Wife

[user104658]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/06/07/24381744-7971903-image-a-4_1580975095224.jpg
Back in 2011 with his Wife

"Darling, why does your face smell like a teenage boy's cock?"

[arista]

"Darling, why does your face smell like a teenage boy's cock?"


Yes , good one TS

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/06/01/24372256-7971903-image-a-151_1580952200574.jpg

[Livia]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/06/07/24381744-7971903-image-a-4_1580975095224.jpg
Back in 2011 with his Wife

He looks like a relative of Edward and Tubbs from the League of Gentlemen.

[arista]

He looks like a relative of Edward and Tubbs from the League of Gentlemen.

Yes he does


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/06/01/24371586-7971903-image-a-129_1580951028315.jpg
[The boy's mother, 37, has called
for Nicola Sturgeon
(with Mr Mackay in February last year) to sack
the MSP for Renfrewshire North and West.
She has now accepted his resignation]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7971903/Scottish-finance-secretary-Derek-Mackay-Minister-texted-16-year-old-boy.html

[bots]

"Darling, why does your face smell like a teenage boy's cock?"

:joker:

[Cherie]

Yes , good one TS

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/02/06/01/24372256-7971903-image-a-151_1580952200574.jpg

what is wrong with these people, he must have come across loads of people nearer his own age that he would have a relationship with

[Cherie]

16 is the legal age of consent in the UK, so why are the Media/SNP acting like he has committed an offence?

no offence as such, but 40 v 16 ….creepy af and just as creepy if was a 40 year old male and a 16 year old girl

[Livia]

no offence as such, but 40 v 16 ….creepy af and just as creepy if was a 40 year old male and a 16 year old girl

Caroline Flack was labelled a paedo on TiBB for dating Harry Styles...

[Josy]

Creep

[Beso]

what is wrong with these people, he must have come across loads of people nearer his own age that he would have a relationship with

:hehe:

[arista]

what is wrong with these people, he must have come across loads of people nearer his own age that he would have a relationship with

The MP
of the SNP was grooming the Lad
sending loads of texts
he got the photo of that young lad
and wanted more of him,


His Wife needs to leave the Bugger

[arista]

Caroline Flack was labelled a paedo on TiBB for dating Harry Styles...

Sure
But this MP loved the Photo of this young lad
Reported as Grooming him..................

At least Caroline met Harry legit.

[user104658]

Caroline Flack was labelled a paedo on TiBB for dating Harry Styles...

Thankfully, she won't be remembered for that any more, she'll be remembered for smacking her boyfriend around the chops with a lamp.

[Cherie]

The MP
of the SNP was grooming the Lad
sending loads of texts
he got the photo of that young lad
and wanted more of him,


His Wife needs to leave the Bugger



His wife is still with him? didn't he come out as gay?

[arista]

[/B]


His wife is still with him? didn't he come out as gay?

No he is Closet Gay
into younger boys

[Tom4784]

We really need to bump the age of consent up to 18, grown people have no business getting into relationships with people who are still in secondary school.

[arista]

1225435631611936769

[Oliver_W]

I know I'm in a minority with this one, but I think the age of consent should be raised to 18.
Thankfully, she won't be remembered for that any more, she'll be remembered for smacking her boyfriend around the chops with a lamp.

I hope she got reported to ChildLine...

[arista]

[Derek MacKay is 43.
The boy he bombarded with texts is 16.
The boy's mother is 37.
MacKay's own son is 15.
The figures are not looking good for the Finance Secretary.]

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQDCq6lXUAE2tFU?format=jpg&name=900x900

[GoldHeart]

We really need to bump the age of consent up to 18, grown people have no business getting into relationships with people who are still in secondary school.

Tell that to the girl that slept with Jagger when she was 15

[Kizzy]

To be fair Kizzy I don't think any politician would survive a story about sending messages to a 16 year old.

[edit to add] Well, Trump obviously would because he's made of Teflon. But that's another issue.

It wouldn't even get out.. the lad would have been clamped with a gagging order (lol) or paid off.

[GoldHeart]

Thankfully, she won't be remembered for that any more, she'll be remembered for smacking her boyfriend around the chops with a lamp.

Why is it thankfully?? , it's obvious she has issues either way .

But it's interesting how it would have to be someone in the SNP party , it's wrong what he did but Tories are doing allsorts .

[Greg!]

What a creep. Never liked him. Glad he’s out of the party, he needs so resign as an MSP as well.

On the other hand legend Kate Forbes did an amazing job announcing the budget in his place! A skinny gorgeous youthful Gaelic-speaking highland gal!

[Beso]

Why is it thankfully?? , it's obvious she has issues either way .

But it's interesting how it would have to be someone in the SNP party , it's wrong what he did but Tories are doing allsorts .

What do you mean it would have to be someone in the snp?

And what are the all sorts the tories are doing...That's a very lazy post you just made, it makes it look like you had a direct agenda to just spinning into the tories..Im sure that's not the case though...lazy as it was.

[Beso]

What a creep. Never liked him. Glad he’s out of the party, he needs so resign as an MSP as well.

On the other hand legend Kate Forbes did an amazing job announcing the budget in his place! A skinny gorgeous youthful Gaelic-speaking highland gal!



Yeah...one for Alex to get his greasy trotters all over. :dance:

[arista]

[/B]


His wife is still with him? didn't he come out as gay?


Correction
Cherie
You are Correct in 2014
he came out as Gay.

[Beso]

You have to wonder why a 42 year old man is trawling Facebook looking at young boys profiles and sending private messages to young boys that he doesn’t know nor has never even met......I would think that he’s been messaging more than just that one lad.....there’s bound to be more comes out about him.

A defo peado if you ask me....just don't though, cause I don't want to slander myself

[Tom4784]

Tell that to the girl that slept with Jagger when she was 15

I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to say here and whether you oppose what I'm saying or not.

[bots]

one of the biggest issues with people in positions of power like he was, behaving as he did, leaves him open to blackmail and coercion. He would have known this, yet still did it. He had to go

[user104658]

I would think that he’s been messaging more than just that one lad.....there’s bound to be more comes out about him.


I think you're probably right there, seems unlikely he was only messaging one person.

[Beso]

one of the biggest issues with people in positions of power like he was, behaving as he did, leaves him open to blackmail and coercion. He would have known this, yet still did it. He had to go

Only place he has to go is down the stairs in a court room..keep Alex company hopefully.

[GoldHeart]

I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to say here and whether you oppose what I'm saying or not.

:facepalm: obviously it's wrong that's the point I'm making. But sometimes these teenagers willingly put themselves in this position, whether it's naivety or trying to act like they're grown up who knows.

The SNP guy was stupid especially in his position of job & why was he talking to a 16 year old in the first place online?? when he has a teenage son, it's weird. But the 16 year old was responding back to him . When I was 16 I doubt I would of replied to a guy who's obviously much older !! .

[GoldHeart]

What do you mean it would have to be someone in the snp?

And what are the all sorts the tories are doing...That's a very lazy post you just made, it makes it look like you had a direct agenda to just spinning into the tories..Im sure that's not the case though...lazy as it was.

Are you going to accuse someone else of spinning a direct agenda when they said if it was Trump he would of gotten away with it .

I truly believe if this story was about Trump he'd be let off the hook :bored: .

It's a crucial time for the SNP & Sturgent, and they're now going to be tainted by this grooming scandal .

What's wrong with me calling out the Tories?? They're far from perfect and have racism in their party , yet only Labour was being scapegoated.

Maybe it's others with the agenda aka the media etc and the powerful ones in charge who like to cover the ass of Trump & the Tories :whistle: .

[Oliver_W]

:facepalm: obviously it's wrong that's the point I'm making. But sometimes these teenagers willingly put themselves in this position, whether it's naivety or trying to act like they're grown up who knows.

The SNP guy was stupid especially in his position of job & why was he talking to a 16 year old in the first place online?? when he has a teenage son, it's weird. But the 16 year old was responding back to him . When I was 16 I doubt I would of replied to a guy who's obviously much older !! .

The situations aren't really comparable, there's a difference between a groupie seeking to meet a rock star for sex, and someone just happening to have an instagram. Jagger had no way of knowing her age, while the SNP guy knew the kid was 16.

[GoldHeart]

The situations aren't really comparable, there's a difference between a groupie seeking to meet a rock star for sex, and someone just happening to have an instagram. Jagger had no way of knowing her age, while the SNP guy knew the kid was 16.

He's also been texting a 25 year old .

16 may seem creepy but it's the age of consent but it seems more creepy as his own son is a teenager, I think 16 is still a kid and still young , but you get 16 year olds sleeping with adults in their 30's & 40's .


And yet the 15 year old groupie was underage , and some people think it's Jagger's fault.

[Oliver_W]

He's also been texting a 25 year old .

16 may seem creepy but it's the age of consent but it seems more creepy as his own son is a teenager, I think 16 is still a kid and still young , but you get 16 year olds sleeping with adults in their 30's & 40's .

I really think the age of consent should be raised to 18. I wouldn't even mind if the equalising of the AoC was reverted, and only gays had to be 18 again. I wooonder whhhhhy Peter Tatchell (who goes into schools and says that love has no age) was so keen on getting the gay AoC lowered :think:

And yet the 15 year old groupie was underage , and some people think it's Jagger's fault.
It was her fault for seeking him out, her parents' fault for not parenting, and Jagger's fault for not asking to see ID.

[GoldHeart]

I really think the age of consent should be raised to 18. I wouldn't even mind if the equalising of the AoC was reverted, and only gays had to be 18 again. I wooonder whhhhhy Peter Tatchell (who goes into schools and says that love has no age) was so keen on getting the gay AoC lowered :think:


It was her fault for seeking him out, her parents' fault for not parenting, and Jagger's fault for not asking to see ID.

Well good luck on the age of consent being raised ! , For a long time the age of consent has been 16 and I can't see it budging . I've always found it too young aswell.

This is why people get annoyed as you can have sex at 16 , join the army and get married with parents permission yet you can't drink or vote . Seems like contradiction :facepalm: .

I saw a documentary about a girl marrying a man she knew when she was 11 and when she was 16 she married him and he was allegedly pushing 40 yet looked much older .

[Oliver_W]

This is why people get annoyed as you can have sex at 16 , join the army and get married with parents permission yet you can't drink or vote . Seems like contradiction :facepalm: .
Eh, you can't take part in active combat until 18, and you have to be in full time education until you're 18 too, so the only way I see it as a contradiction is the AoC being too low.

Like, obviously if two teenagers are in a relationship and both want to, stuff is gonna happen regardless of the letter of the law, but it should be higher to give them legal protection from predators.

[GoldHeart]

Eh, you can't take part in active combat until 18, and you have to be in full time education until you're 18 too, so the only way I see it as a contradiction is the AoC being too low.

Like, obviously if two teenagers are in a relationship and both want to, stuff is gonna happen regardless of the letter of the law, but it should be higher to give them legal protection from predators.

I meant the army territorials , you could join at 16 unless they've now changed that ? . And with parent consent you can get married at 16 .