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Dogeatdog
14-02-2020, 06:55 PM
Manchester City have been banned from the Champions League for the next two seasons for breaking financial fair play rules.

The decision is subject to appeal, with City have also been fined €30m (£25m).

A statement from UEFA read: 'UEFA takes note of the decision of the independent Adjudicatory Chamber of the Club Financial Control Body (CFCB), issued today, which included the following summary of its content and effect to be announced as required by the Procedural Rules governing the CFCB:

'Following a hearing held on 22 January 2020 the Adjudicatory Chamber of the UEFA Club Financial Control Body (CFCB), chaired by José da Cunha Rodrigues, has today notified Manchester City Football Club of the final decision on the case which was referred by the CFCB Chief Investigator.

'The Adjudicatory Chamber, having considered all the evidence, has found that Manchester City Football Club committed serious breaches of the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations by overstating its sponsorship revenue in its accounts and in the break-even information submitted to UEFA between 2012 and 2016.

'The Adjudicatory Chamber has also found that in breach of the regulations the Club failed to cooperate in the investigation of this case by the CFCB.

'The Adjudicatory Chamber has imposed disciplinary measures on Manchester City Football Club directing that it shall be excluded from participation in UEFA club competitions in the next two seasons (ie. the 2020/21 and 2021/22 seasons) and pay a fine of € 30 million.

'The decision of the Adjudicatory Chamber is subject to appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS). If Manchester City Football Club exercises that right the full reasoned decision of the Adjudicatory Chamber will not be published prior to publication of the final award by the CAS.'

'As noted by the Adjudicatory Chamber, the club has the right to appeal this decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport. Therefore, UEFA will not be commenting further on this decision at this stage.'

A statement from Manchester City read: 'Manchester City is disappointed but not surprised by today’s announcement by the UEFA Adjudicatory Chamber. The Club has always anticipated the ultimate need to seek out an independent body and process to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence in support of its position.


'In December 2018, the UEFA Chief Investigator publicly previewed the outcome and sanction he intended to be delivered to Manchester City, before any investigation had even begun. The subsequent flawed and consistently leaked UEFA process he oversaw has meant that there was little doubt in the result that he would deliver. The Club has formally complained to the UEFA Disciplinary body, a complaint which was validated by a CAS ruling.

'Simply put, this is a case initiated by UEFA, prosecuted by UEFA and judged by UEFA. With this prejudicial process now over, the Club will pursue an impartial judgment as quickly as possible and will therefore, in the first instance, commence proceedings with the Court of Arbitration for Sport at the earliest opportunity

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8005357/Manchester-City-banned-Champions-League-two-seasons.html

Oh dear...

Alf
14-02-2020, 06:55 PM
Punishment for Brexit

Crimson Dynamo
14-02-2020, 07:24 PM
bye bye pep

:hehe:

Parmy
14-02-2020, 08:52 PM
I hope there is an exodus of players.
I would love to see some of them in red

AnnieK
14-02-2020, 08:54 PM
That's Pep and half the team gone then. The Reds will reign supreme in Manchester again

Zizu
14-02-2020, 08:55 PM
Pep was going anyway probably in the summer


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michael21
14-02-2020, 10:42 PM
Spurs are in next season champions league :cheer2:

Denver
14-02-2020, 11:08 PM
About time, they couldn't keep getting away with a net spend of over a billion

Denver
14-02-2020, 11:16 PM
Apparently the FA are involved and are considering points deduction and a transfer ban after they basically cheated to win titles

Mystic Mock
15-02-2020, 12:00 AM
Spurs are in next season champions league :cheer2:

Or Sheffield Utd tbf.

Tbh I'd like them to reverse it and consider either a transfer embargo, or a points deduction at the start of next season if the club must be punished.

Parmy
15-02-2020, 12:12 AM
Sfa cup winners should get the final place.

Zizu
15-02-2020, 01:26 AM
Apparently the FA are involved and are considering points deduction and a transfer ban after they basically cheated to win titles



So Liverpool were champions last season as well !


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Zizu
15-02-2020, 01:27 AM
Sfa cup winners should get the final place.



Apparently it will go to the fifth place club if City stay in the top 4


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MTVN
15-02-2020, 07:14 AM
Not sure I want to live on a planet where Sheffield United are in the Champions League

michael21
15-02-2020, 07:23 AM
Or Sheffield Utd tbf.

Tbh I'd like them to reverse it and consider either a transfer embargo, or a points deduction at the start of next season if the club must be punished.

What happen if man city win the league cup and I right in thinking that that placed we go to who ever finished 6th :amazed:

michael21
15-02-2020, 07:27 AM
Spurs have a game in hand over Sheffield u

Wait till this round completed then we know what the Real table look like

Nicky91
15-02-2020, 10:23 AM
good

i kinda dislike them anyway with their too big budget


i also miss the good old champions league days, where you had lower budget teams in group stages do well like swedish IFK Goteborg (they had also won a Europa cup back in the day, and that without huge budget transfers)

or our Willem II, who was amazing under Co Adriaanse (slowly returning to a great form this season which is lovely to see) Adriaanse who went on from there as manager of Ajax, Porto as some notable higher ranking teams

Crimson Dynamo
15-02-2020, 10:28 AM
Now its time for the Premier League to act and kick them into Division 2

michael21
15-02-2020, 10:56 AM
Now its time for the Premier League to act and kick them into Division 2

That would be to good

Nicky91
15-02-2020, 10:59 AM
to be fair, i wouldn't be shocked if a ''corruption scandal'' would indeed kick City back into championship

but also i would think of them doing what Juventus did and fighting their way back into top level fair and square (and more interest and focus in their youth teams now)

The Slim Reaper
15-02-2020, 02:10 PM
All the LiVARpool, PED's, and #taintedtitle bs and then this happens


https://media3.giphy.com/media/1cFNeNUnpn6Tu/giphy.gif

Black Dagger
15-02-2020, 02:12 PM
Lmao... I revel in all the hate for little old City.

The best part is the Arsenal and United fans being gleeful bc their chances of making Europa league has increased tenfold.

The Slim Reaper
15-02-2020, 02:13 PM
Lmao... I revel in all the hate for little old City.

The best part is the Arsenal and United fans being gleeful bc their chances of making Europa league has increased tenfold.

Act smalltime and bitter, get treated as such...

Black Dagger
15-02-2020, 02:13 PM
PL will be really exciting again with your "original top 4" monopoly and nobody being able to spend money and challenge for titles.

Khaldoon will inflict any top lawyer he can on this corrupt nonsense.

Black Dagger
15-02-2020, 02:16 PM
Act smalltime and bitter, get treated as such...

I have nothing to be bitter about!

The Slim Reaper
15-02-2020, 02:17 PM
Dortmund have built themselves up over a long time. Leipzig doing the same at the moment; there's a right way to build up a club, or a way that breaks the rules of the sport.

The Slim Reaper
15-02-2020, 02:18 PM
I have nothing to be bitter about!

I know you haven't, but city fans in general have acted appallingly spoilt, and entitled this season.

Denver
15-02-2020, 02:18 PM
PL will be really exciting again with your "original top 4" monopoly and nobody being able to spend money and challenge for titles.

Khaldoon will inflict any top lawyer he can on this corrupt nonsense.
Imagine thinking your slave owning owners are not corrupt

Nicky91
15-02-2020, 02:29 PM
Dortmund have built themselves up over a long time. Leipzig doing the same at the moment; there's a right way to build up a club, or a way that breaks the rules of the sport.

Leipzig also have a team building session i saw in training camp, in spain this winter break

smart coach that Julian Nagelsmann, team building is good for morale within the group, and also on sportive perspective for more team play rather than just 1 or 2 star players within a team

Dortmund have proven they can be still great, even without Klopp


Bayern Munich is still good, just had a few ups and downs, but now Oliver Kahn in advisory board to regain more order within the club, they still got faith in Hansie Flick (who was Low's assistent manager of Die Mannschaft for quite a while btw)

The Slim Reaper
15-02-2020, 02:40 PM
Leipzig also have a team building session i saw in training camp, in spain this winter break

smart coach that Julian Nagelsmann, team building is good for morale within the group, and also on sportive perspective for more team play rather than just 1 or 2 star players within a team

Dortmund have proven they can be still great, even without Klopp


Bayern Munich is still good, just had a few ups and downs, but now Oliver Kahn in advisory board to regain more order within the club, they still got faith in Hansie Flick (who was Low's assistent manager of Die Mannschaft for quite a while btw)

Exactly. This argument that it's impossible to do anything unless you have an illegal £billion net spend is all now, now, now culture. Teams don't want to put a 10yr plan in place, where they recruit good youngsters, sell them on and build the club up to the right level.

Black Dagger
15-02-2020, 02:46 PM
Imagine thinking your slave owning owners are not corrupt

Least our ban isn't from murdering Italian fans I suppose </3

The Slim Reaper
15-02-2020, 02:50 PM
And there we have it.

Brother Leon
15-02-2020, 02:55 PM
PL will be really exciting again with your "original top 4" monopoly and nobody being able to spend money and challenge for titles.

Khaldoon will inflict any top lawyer he can on this corrupt nonsense.

Cry me a river you plastics. :hee:

Denver
15-02-2020, 03:16 PM
Least our ban isn't from murdering Italian fans I suppose </3

For someone who claims to be gay you very happy to accepts gays being murdered as long as you can spend £50m on a full back who will never play

AnnieK
15-02-2020, 03:28 PM
Cry me a river you plastics. :hee:

:hehe:

All City fans thought we were bitter when we said they bought their success.....at least our fans haven't deserted the team whilst we're in a re building phase.....wonder how many the Etihad will get at home games now??

Denver
15-02-2020, 03:51 PM
:hehe:

All City fans thought we were bitter when we said they bought their success.....at least our fans haven't deserted the team whilst we're in a re building phase.....wonder how many the Etihad will get at home games now??

Iran they struggle to seek out the Emptihad at the best of times

Black Dagger
15-02-2020, 04:27 PM
For someone who claims to be gay you very happy to accepts gays being murdered as long as you can spend £50m on a full back who will never play

Your moral high ground is so boring.

Black Dagger
15-02-2020, 04:28 PM
We get 50k every home game and were one of the highest attended when we were in lower divisions. The whole nobody goes to watch City is as tedious to see as the football Ole has United playing.

Crimson Dynamo
15-02-2020, 05:04 PM
This now gives West Ham the impetus to push for that free European spot

:fc:

The Slim Reaper
15-02-2020, 05:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQzhaLqXUAADJbO?format=jpg&name=900x900

Mystic Mock
16-02-2020, 12:20 PM
This now gives West Ham the impetus to push for that free European spot

:fc:

How many points are West Ham behind 7th place?

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2020, 12:34 PM
How many points are West Ham behind 7th place?

only 4 wins

:amazed:

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2020, 12:36 PM
A look at next seasons home games at the Etihad...

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/49F3/production/_110913981_mancityfan_empics.jpg

Mystic Mock
16-02-2020, 01:16 PM
only 4 wins

:amazed:

Well good luck to them.:)

You'll need a change in form for that to happen though.

But it's better late than never.

GiRTh
16-02-2020, 01:19 PM
So if Pep leaves can we sack Arteta and appoint Pep? He'll be off soon with a few players to follow.

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2020, 01:52 PM
City will have now to look to the Championship for players for next season - may be time to get Big Sam in for pep?

Or Warnock

Black Dagger
16-02-2020, 01:59 PM
Christ. All I've seen for two days is Pep is off and taking Aguero and De Bruyne with him, we are being sent to league two and are going to have 4 fans watching despite having one of the most dedicated working class fanbases follow them in whatever situation with in.

Anything else going to happen to us?!

Crimson Dynamo
16-02-2020, 02:02 PM
:laugh2:

Poor Lucas, he has taken a right kicking tbf

Black Dagger
16-02-2020, 02:06 PM
I've just watched my club win a domestic treble and have a 100 point season.

Couldn't give a **** that LT from down the road thinks they're "tainted"

The Slim Reaper
16-02-2020, 02:08 PM
I've just watched my club cheat their way a domestic treble and have a 100 point season.

Couldn't give a **** that LT from down the road thinks they're "tainted"

Quite.

#taintedclub

MTVN
16-02-2020, 02:09 PM
Dortmund have built themselves up over a long time. Leipzig doing the same at the moment; there's a right way to build up a club, or a way that breaks the rules of the sport.

Leipzig have gone from 5th division to title challengers in ten years, not sure that constitutes building yourself up over a long time

Before this I thought City had done a good job actually investing a lot in infrastructure, their academy and in their women's team. They have actually nurtured a lot of young talent and there's plenty of players that have pretty much been made by City

MTVN
16-02-2020, 02:10 PM
This now gives West Ham the impetus to push for that free European spot

:fc:

More hopeful of a City relegation giving 18th place a reprieve :fc:

The Slim Reaper
16-02-2020, 02:17 PM
Leipzig have gone from 5th division to title challengers in ten years, not sure that constitutes building yourself up over a long time

Before this I thought City had done a good job actually investing a lot in infrastructure, their academy and in their women's team. They have actually nurtured a lot of young talent and there's plenty of players that have pretty much been made by City

My main point was that it's possible to build a football club up the right way without breaking all the rules. The model of good young players, sell ons, then rinse and repeat is the best way to do it, as is the Leipzig and Dortmund models.

I always liked city, but the crazy conspiracy theories over the last 2 years, often indulged by Pep himself is a bridge too far.

Zizu
16-02-2020, 03:15 PM
Christ. All I've seen for two days is Pep is off and taking Aguero and De Bruyne with him, we are being sent to league two and are going to have 4 fans watching despite having one of the most dedicated working class fanbases follow them in whatever situation with in.

Anything else going to happen to us?!



I heard they will lose any titles won in the offending 4 seasons ..
Resulting in Liverpool winning their first premier title under Brendon ..


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Mystic Mock
17-02-2020, 06:33 AM
Christ. All I've seen for two days is Pep is off and taking Aguero and De Bruyne with him, we are being sent to league two and are going to have 4 fans watching despite having one of the most dedicated working class fanbases follow them in whatever situation with in.

Anything else going to happen to us?!

I wouldn't take it personally, Football fans like to see a top team possibly about to fall (unless it's their team of course) tbh I am probably guilty of this aspect within the Football fandom too.

But if Liverpool go and win the next 3 or 4 Premier League titles, I'm willing to bet that the neutrals would be rooting for Man City to stop them, or any team to stop them.

But yeah people are underestimating how many fans that you guys actually have.

bots
17-02-2020, 07:00 AM
speaking as a Man U supporter, i think the way city were "investigated" was atrocious. I don't see the ban being upheld in appeal, but if it is, it will be football that suffers

AnnieK
17-02-2020, 08:13 AM
speaking as a Man U supporter, i think the way city were "investigated" was atrocious. I don't see the ban being upheld in appeal, but if it is, it will be football that suffers

Ultimately its the fans who suffer too.

The Slim Reaper
17-02-2020, 10:47 AM
Ultimately its the fans who suffer too.

C'mon, they've been watching a club that's cheated their way to the top of the game, and now they refuse to accept that cheating is wrong. They've been throwing claims around about other clubs all season; and I'll especially enjoy the taintedtitle hashtag for the next couple of years

Crimson Dynamo
17-02-2020, 10:57 AM
Bad news for City that their next game after this shaming is against the much improved West Ham - losing at home on Weds will really start the spiral downwards. :(

Alf
17-02-2020, 11:22 AM
I just read that article, and I still don't understand what they've done wrong. Can someone explain to me, in normal people terms, what they've done?

Niamh.
17-02-2020, 11:27 AM
I just read that article, and I still don't understand what they've done wrong. Can someone explain to me, in normal people terms, what they've done?

My brother told me it was something like them lying about how much money they were making through sponsors etc so that they could spend more money. In the interests of fair play you're supposed to spend earned money rather than the rich owners money

The Slim Reaper
17-02-2020, 11:44 AM
My brother told me it was something like them lying about how much money they were making through sponsors etc so that they could spend more money. In the interests of fair play you're supposed to spend earned money rather than the rich owners money

They have internal emails supporting this from employees talking about how much the sponsors were providing and how much of the deal was being paid by their owner.

The Slim Reaper
17-02-2020, 01:18 PM
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This kind of craziness has been going on for 2 years. Everything is a conspiracy to them.

Alf
17-02-2020, 01:19 PM
Bloody money, whether you've got too much or nothing at all, it always causes problems.

It was better when football was played on a field of grass rather than a boardroom.

James
17-02-2020, 01:27 PM
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This kind of craziness has been going on for 2 years. Everything is a conspiracy to them.

Wasn't there a Liverpool forum that was just the same and always going into meltdowns a few years back.

I remember Locke on here saying the account that reported on it was his favourite account. :hehe:

RAWK I think.

Crimson Dynamo
17-02-2020, 01:42 PM
https://www.hammers.news/static/uploads/2020/02/dg-feb-16-693x1024.jpg

The Slim Reaper
17-02-2020, 01:44 PM
Wasn't there a Liverpool forum that was just the same and always going into meltdowns a few years back.

I remember Locke on here saying the account that reported on it was his favourite account. :hehe:

RAWK I think.

Rawk is just an OTT fanboy kind of thing. Complete loons and always a funny read, but nothing approaching the conspiracy theories on blue moon.

If any Liverpool manager came out with a rawk conspiracy theory the way pep promoted the blue moon Scudamore one, your comparison may have proved more accurate.