Racist and misogynist Tory aide forced to resign in uproar over his views

[Twosugars]

https://i.imgur.com/trx2vGhm.jpg

Labour is calling for the immediate sacking of a Tory adviser over his controversial remarks about pregnancy, race and women’s sport.

Oxbridge-educated Andrew Sabisky is working as a No 10 adviser, having been appointed after chief aide Dominic Cummings put out a job description for “misfits and weirdos” to join him in trying to shake up government.

The 27-year-old, who is contracted on specific projects and is not a permanent staffer, wrote on Cummings’ website in 2014 than in order to get around unplanned pregnancies in the UK, there should be the legal enforcement of long-term contraception.

“One way to get around the problems of unplanned pregnancies, creating a permanent underclass would be to legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception and the onset of puberty,” he wrote. “Vaccination laws give it a precedent, I would argue.”

In another post circulated on Twitter, Sabisky claimed black Americans had a lower average IQ than white people and were more likely to have an “intellectual disability”. He also tweeted: “I am always straight up in saying that women’s sport is more comparable to the Paralympics than it is to men’s.”

Jon Trickett MP, Labour’s shadow cabinet office minister, said: “There are really no words to describe Boris Johnson’s appointment as one of his senior advisers a man who is on record as supporting the forced sterilisation of people he considers not worthy. He must of course be removed from this position immediately.”

Labour MP David Lammy condemned Sabisky’s post about the IQs of black and white Americans as “dangerous claptrap”. He tweeted: “Andrew Sabisky has some very ugly views, but depressingly he’s not alone. There is a resurgent belief in Eugenics across fringes of the right. It’s dangerous claptrap. Skin colour has no more relevance to an individual’s intelligence than their hair colour.”

Sabisky, who describes himself as a political forecaster, has also deleted tweets calling Labour MPs Angela Rayner, Rebecca Long-Bailey and Yvette Cooper “dim”.

His hiring has been widely criticised on social media, with many questioning how he got through strict government vetting processes.

In an interview he did in 2016 Sabisky said he was interested in narcolepsy drug modafinil, which also cuts the need for sleep in healthy people by two-thirds and potentially helps brain function.

There is also evidence of a higher risk of people getting Stevens-Johnson syndrome, a life-threatening skin condition. “From a societal perspective the benefits of giving everyone modafinil once a week are probably worth a dead kid once a year,” he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/16/tory-aide-wants-enforced-contraception-to-curb-pregnancies




27 year old sociopath advising the government :facepalm:

[arista]

Yes he is still there.
They are not going to comment on this.

[Mystic Mock]

Him talking about people's IQ whilst being openly racist on Twitter.:facepalm:

The irony.

[Alf]

Nobody of any importance cares what Labour think. They're finished.

[Kizzy]

How long have I been saying the conservatives are sympathetic to the concept of reintroducing eugenics?...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-andrew-sabisky-eugenics-contraception-dominic-cummings-downing-street-a9339296.html

[Tom4784]

It's sad that you've got Tories literally calling for the forced sterilisation of the same class as most tory voters yet you just know that any of them that read this story will be like 'BUT LABOUR!?!!!!'

The country has no hope when Tory voters have such blind reverence for the party that they can't criticise them for **** like this.

[The Slim Reaper]

The tories: the left are elitists that look down on you

Also the tories: Let's stop working class people breeding?

[Crimson Dynamo]

didnt he say these things six years ago, what has this to do with the Government?

idgi

[Twosugars]

Boris Johnson’s spokesman has refused to say whether the prime minister thinks black people have lower IQs on average, or agrees with eugenics, after No 10 hired an adviser with highly controversial views.

In a tense briefing with the media, the prime minister’s deputy official spokesman declined several times to distance Johnson from the views of his adviser, Andrew Sabisky, who has suggested “enforced contraception” be used to prevent the creation of a “permanent underclass”.

Labour has called on No 10 to sack Sabisky, who is believed to be contracted by Downing Street under Johnson’s de facto chief of staff, Dominic Cummings, to work on special projects.

Johnson’s official spokesman refused to comment on Sabisky, his controversial views, or whether the prime minister agreed with them.
“The prime minister’s views are well publicised and well documented,” the spokesman said more than 10 times, when asked to give Johnson’s views on the intelligence of black people and eugenics, the study of methods to selectively breed people to improve the human race.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/17/no-10-refuses-to-comment-on-pms-views-of-racial-iq


Coward.
The scandal is growing.

[Twosugars]

Scotland’s first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, tweeted: “These are really not acceptable headlines for any government to be generating (or allowing to be generated). They need to get a grip fast and demonstrate some basic but fundamental values in the terms of our public debate.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/17/no-10-refuses-to-comment-on-pms-views-of-racial-iq

Nicola there. That's what proper leader sounds like.

[arista]

He has Now Quit.

All Media.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51538493

[Twosugars]

A controversial new adviser to Boris Johnson resigned on Monday night after MPs and experts accused No 10 of condoning his controversial claims that intelligence is linked to race.

Andrew Sabisky, who was brought into Downing Street by Johnson’s senior aide Dominic Cummings as part of his appeal for “misfits and weirdos”, became the subject of intense media scrutiny after details emerged of his views on subjects ranging from black people’s IQs to whether benefits claimants should be encouraged to have fewer children.

But amid mounting criticism within the Conservative party after No 10 stood by the appointment, Sabisky said that he would be stepping down as a “contractor” to No 10.

He tweeted: “The media hysteria about my old stuff online is mad but I wanted to help [the government] not be a distraction. Accordingly I’ve decided to resign as a contractor. I hope No 10 hires more [people with] good geopolitical forecasting track records and that media learn to stop selective quoting.”

The news of Sabisky’s exit came despite the government’s apparent determination to ride out the controversy, with a Downing Street spokesman refusing to answer more than 30 questions from reporters on whether Boris Johnson agreed with Sabisky’s views.

His resignation represents a defeat for Cummings, Johnson’s most powerful aide, whose abrasive approach to government is causing consternation among some Tories and is thought to be partly behind Sajid Javid’s departure as chancellor.

Sabisky, a 27-year-old who describes himself as a “superforecaster”, had been contracted to work on special projects for Cummings, who had said in a job ad that he was seeking a team “to find and exploit, without worrying about media noise… ‘very high leverage ideas’ [that] these will almost inevitably seem bad to most.”

But a political furore broke out after some of Sabisky’s past writings on genetics emerged over the weekend. In one post from 2014, he suggested that politicians should pay attention to “very real racial differences in intelligence” when designing the immigration system, and another from that year suggested black people on average have lower IQs than white people.

In a book review, he also argued that benefit claimants “tend to be less conscientious and agreeable” and should be encouraged to have fewer children than people in work with more “pro-social personalities”.

Ian Lavery, the Labour party chair, said Johnson still has questions to answer about how and why Sabisky was ever appointed.

“It’s right that Andrew Sabisky is no longer working in government. He should never have been appointed in the first place,” he said.

“After Number 10 publicly stood by him today, Boris Johnson has serious questions to answer about how this appointment was made and whether he agrees with his vile views.”

With Downing Street remaining silent, John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, said the appointment was a direct reflection on Johnson’s leadership. “You can’t have people with these views operating at the heart of your government unless you agree with them. For Johnson to refuse to act and to condemn these views says as much about himself as it does about Sabisky.”

Some Tory MPs also began to question No 10’s judgement in having hired Sabisky. Caroline Nokes, the Tory chair of the women and equalities committee, was the first Conservative to go on the record to criticise No 10’s handling of the situation.

“Cannot believe No 10 has refused to comment on Andrew Sabisky. I don’t know him from a bar of soap, but don’t think we’d get on ... must be no place in government for the views he’s expressed,” she said.

A second Tory MP, William Wragg, broke cover on Monday evening, saying Sabisky “needs to go” and arguing that his presence in No 10 was “a poor reflection on the government and there is no way to defend it”.

“‘Weirdos’ and ‘misfits’ are all very well, but please can they not gratuitously cause offence. I cannot be the only one uncomfortable with recent No 10 trends,” he added.

The calls for Sabisky’s departure became more concerted on Monday as more examples of his previous writings emerged. Another internet posting from 2014 suggested the government could “legally enforce universal uptake of long-term contraception at the onset of puberty” to help prevent a “permanent underclass”.

In 2015, Sabisky also proposed IQ tests for all 11-year-olds to help distribute money to schools, based on variation in intelligence rather than the economic background of their parents - an idea that Cummings described as “reasonable”, although “politically untouchable” unless a research programme on education and IQ could be launched.

It is understood several Tory politicians from black and minority ethnic backgrounds had made representations to No 10 about how the row of Sabisky’s appointment was damaging for the party’s relations with the black community.

One Conservative MP from a BME background said: “I’m not necessarily against hiring intellectually interesting people with sometimes controversial views, but this guy just doesn’t seem very smart, and if you are not very smart and at the very least appear bigoted that cannot be a good look for the party. By all means we should be against ultra-woke nonsense, but we should also stand against alt-right nonsense too.” Another said No 10’s refusal to take a clear line on accusations of racism was “severely damaging” to its standing with voters.

At least one Tory special adviser had also threatened to boycott meetings where Sabisky was present.

Dr Adam Rutherford, a geneticist and author, accused Sabisky and Cummings of being “bewitched by science, without having made the effort to understand the areas he is invoking, nor its history”.

He said the “moral repugnance” of the remarks was “overwhelming”, adding: “I am all for scientifically minded people advising government ... [B]this resembles the marshalling of misunderstood or specious science into a political ideology. The history here is important, because this process is exactly what happened at the birth of scientific racism and the birth of eugenics.”

After some of Sabisky’s controversial writings were highlighted, No 10 was asked at its regular Monday morning press briefing to clarify whether Johnson believed in eugenics or that black people had on average lower IQs than white people. Johnson’s deputy official spokesman declined to comment beyond saying: “The prime minister’s views are well publicised and well documented.” Asked repeatedly to point to where Johnson’s views were documented, he declined to answer.

The spokesman also distanced No 10 from the remarks of Grant Shapps, the transport secretary, who said over the weekend that Sabisky’s comments were “not my views and those are not the views of the government”, saying the cabinet minister was speaking only for himself when he made that statement.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/17/boris-johnson-adviser-quits-over-race-and-eugenics-writings

[Twosugars]

Was the no screening of his appointment or they took his views in their stride?
Is Cummings trying to bring eugenics back? Unbelievable...

[Mystic Mock]

He has Now Quit.

All Media.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51538493

Well at least some good news has happened this year.

It can go and join the Bronski Beat singer singing along with a Busker.

[arista]

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[Alf]

Cancel culture.

If this guy can loose his job for his opinions from 6 years ago, can Dawn Butler loose hers, for her opinions from yestetday?

[Kizzy]

Cancel culture.

If this guy can loose his job for his opinions from 6 years ago, can Dawn Butler loose hers, for her opinions from yestetday?

Why... how are the views expressed comparable? It's not the fact the opinions are unpopular that the guy was sacked, it was the actual content of what was said.

Dawn Butler is advocating Labours approach to gender recognition is all, I don't agree with it myself but they are the views of the party (as is) not only Dawn.

[Oliver_W]

Hopefully this will be a lesson learned that employers should check out prospective employees' public social media when hiring for influential positions.

It's good his views were never censored, or those views wouldn't have come to light and he'd still be in Cumming's ear...

Why... how are the views expressed comparable? It's not the fact the opinions are unpopular that the guy was sacked, it was the actual content of what was said.

Dawn Butler is advocating Labours approach to gender recognition is all, I don't agree with it myself but they are the views of the party (as is) not only Dawn.

It could be argued that as Shadow Minister for Women, she should actually know what a woman is. Like I don't actually care, if she wants to include transwomen in the women she's the Shadow Minister for that's fine, but acknowledging biological sex should be part of the role.

[Kizzy]

It could be argued that as Shadow Minister for Women, she should actually know what a woman is. Like I don't actually care, if she wants to include transwomen in the women she's the Shadow Minister for that's fine, but acknowledging biological sex should be part of the role.

She is acknowledging bio or 'cis that is not the issue at all. However by also acknowledging self ID, it is this that has created some controversy.

[user104658]

Apparently someone found his reddit account and its on a whole other level :umm2:

[arista]

Was the no screening of his appointment or they took his views in their stride?
Is Cummings trying to bring eugenics back? Unbelievable...


Of Course not

[Kizzy]

Back... has is ever really gone?

[user104658]

Back... has is ever really gone?

I mean it's never existed to the extent this chap was advocating; force-feeding adolescents birth control as part of their vaccination schedule.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he just put an idea forward

are we now banning kids form having ideas?

[user104658]

he just put an idea forward

are we now banning kids form having ideas?

He's not been banned from having ideas, he's been discouraged from entering mainstream politics.

[Tom4784]

Cancel culture.

If this guy can loose his job for his opinions from 6 years ago, can Dawn Butler loose hers, for her opinions from yestetday?

This guy would have literally wanted to control whether or not you could have kids never mind the pure racism of his words. Do not rush to the defense of someone who believes they should have a right to your body just because he's a tory. This man thinks the working class are trash.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This guy would have literally wanted to control whether or not you could have kids never mind the pure racism of his words. Do not rush to the defense of someone who believes they should have a right to your body just because he's a tory. This man thinks the working class are trash.

and what do you think of people who vote tory or trump?


do you ever listen to yourself, you have countless times compared both to worthless trash with no brains.

:conf:

[Twosugars]

he just put an idea forward

are we now banning kids form having ideas?

Is rehashing nazi eugenics all the far right has to offer?

[Oliver_W]

he just put an idea forward

are we now banning kids form having ideas?

Do you think people should have a say in what advice the Government - who work for us - listens to?

Do you think businesses should have freedom in who they hire?

[Twosugars]

Opinion The far right
Andrew Sabisky’s job at No 10 shows how mainstream the alt-right has become
Joe Mulhall

After days of pressure on No 10 to sack Andrew Sabisky, one of Dominic Cummings’ recently appointed “weirdos and misfits”, the self-styled “superforecaster” took to social media to resign last night. In his resignation tweet he said he hoped the “media learn to
stop selective quoting”. However, when put in its proper context, Sabisky’s track record is far more damning than the out-of-context quotes for which he has been criticised, leaving Cummings and Downing Street with serious questions to answer.

The press rightly seized on his comments about race “science” and IQ, enforced contraception and support for eugenics (the concept of improving the genetic health of humans by excluding “inferior” genetic groups and promoting “superior” ones). But it’s just as important that we pay attention to where he made those comments – in the online world of alt-right subcultures that fellow Hope Not Hate researchers and I have been exploring in our latest book The International Alt-Right: Fascism for the 21st Century?. Even though Sabisky himself is gone, the milieu in which his views developed has not.

Many of the most prominent individuals pushing modern race science have come from within the international alt-right. One of the niche pseudoscientific theories popular in such circles is “human biodiversity” (HBD), which argues that there are differences in intelligence between races, based on genes – despite this theory being repeatedly debunked. A key figure within the so-called “HBD-o-sphere” is a blogger called “HBD Chick”. And it was on her website that Sabisky wrote, in 2014, that “there are excellent reasons to think the very real racial differences in intelligence are significantly – even mostly – genetic in origin, though the degree is of course a very serious subject of scholarly debate”.

Equally revealing is the title of the blog under which Sabisky made his comment: “in the dark about the dark enlightenment”. The Dark Enlightenment is a name given to a far-right movement that promotes a little-known ideology called neo-reaction or NRx. This is a largely online, far-right political subculture that emerged over the past two decades from the broader “reactosphere”, taking shape as bloggers realised that their views on gender, race, religion, governance and much more all shared a rejection of the liberal democratic attitudes that had grown in the west following the Enlightenment. Sabisky wrote that “the Dark Enlightenment is a silly and hyperbolic term for what should be fairly uncontroversial at this point”, yet most people would be disturbed by its core NRx ideas.

Neo-reaction is a very strange, marginal and extreme far-right ideology. It foresees a shift from globalised, multicultural liberal democracies with Enlightenment principles to competing states, run by dictatorships or monarchies, where ethnic groups live apart to ensure they are “preserved” and humans are transformed using sophisticated technology. Taking inspiration from NRx “thinkers” such as Nick Land and Curtis Yarvin, the NRx movement see this as not just unavoidable but also desirable.

Though best thought of as a disparate blogosphere rather than a cohesive movement, it has acted as both a tributary into the alt-right and as a key constituent part. While it does not share the public profile of the broader alt-right – the NRx community is essentially limited to small, obscure forums and blogs – it has found adherents and supporters in big tech and Silicon Valley.

There is evidence to suggest that Sabisky is even more broadly sympathetic to the NRx movement. In a 2017 blog for the International Business Times, he lamented Twitter’s clampdown on the infamous meme Pepe the Frog, which has long been used as a mascot for alt-right and far-right groups to spread racist, Islamophobic and antisemitic content online. In the article, he praised Land, the philosopher and amphetamine enthusiast considered the founding father of the NRx movement. Previously an academic at Warwick University in the 1990s, he went on to become a core NRx figure after publishing an online manifesto entitled The Dark Enlightenment in 2012. He acquired something of a cult following while becoming increasingly racist and propagating very far-right ideas. Yet Sabisky writes, “The present writer has followed Land for the last few years, and never once has his conduct been anything other than entirely praiseworthy.”

It’s clear, too, that Sabisky has spent some years reading and commenting on alt-right websites. In 2014, he commented on an article on the Unz Review, a website popular with alt-right racists and antisemites that has run Holocaust denial and pseudo-race scienceand hosts a blog by Steve Sailer, the alt-right’s go-to person on race science, who is often credited with coining the term “human biodiversity”.

Looking at the evidence, it starts to appear that Sabisky may not just hold unacceptable and abhorrent views in isolation but that he may actually be a neo-reactionary or alt-right believer. The idea that someone from these movements managed to become an adviser to Downing Street, if only briefly, is genuinely shocking and further evidence of how once marginal alt-right ideas have crept towards the mainstream.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/18/andrew-sabisky-job-no-10-alt-right-adviser


It's all coming out now. What a hiring for "people's" prime minister

[James]

I just read this - Andrew Sabisky: What is superforecasting? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51545541

[Tom4784]

and what do you think of people who vote tory or trump?


do you ever listen to yourself, you have countless times compared both to worthless trash with no brains.

:conf:

And my harsh words are proved correct by tory voters leaping to the defense of this man just because he is a tory when he, if given the chance, would deprive them of a basic human right. Tory voters have an almost cultish reverence for tory MPs and their staff and this story shows that all too well.

Your attempts to round this back on me are nothing more than a very lazy attempt to bait and one that doesn't even make sense. You're comparing me to a man who says that black people are inherently less intelligent than white people and that lower class people should have their choice of whether or not to breed be controlled when all I've ever said is that the british public are mostly uninformed and that Trump voters are willingly ignorant.

You are not stupid and I won't treat you as such, you know your comparison is ridiculous and I won't waste my time saying why because it's obvious. Of course, if you think I'm overestimating you and you want an explanation, you just need to say so.

[Twosugars]

Andrew Sabisky: minister urges review of No 10 hiring process


The business minister Kwasi Kwarteng has said the process for hiring staff to advise Downing Street needs to be “looked at” following the resignation of the Tory adviser Andrew Sabisky over his controversial claims that intelligence was linked to race.

Kwarteng described the 27-year-old’s remarks in columns, blogs and online posts as “racist, offensive and objectionable”.

Sabisky, who is believed to have been hired following a call for “misfits and weirdos” to join the government, quit his post as a contractor on Monday night after his views on eugenics and the link between race and IQ were revealed, sparking an outcry.

Kwarteng’s condemnation came after almost 48 hours without a senior member of Boris Johnson’s government criticising Sabisky’s comments or explaining how he had been hired.

The minister told BBC Radio 5 live on Tuesday: “The message has been clear – his remarks were totally unacceptable. They were racist and they were offensive and he has left whatever post he had. I don’t know who he is. I read in the papers he’s 27 years old, I don’t know how he’s had time to write all this stuff to be honest.

“It’s been objectionable, offensive and he’s left the government. I think it’s unfortunate he was hired. He’s now left and we can now all move on.”

He said the government “should prevent racists from coming into No 10 or wherever he was working”.

“We do need to look at these processes but the fact is his remarks have been identified and very quickly pushed out … and we can move on.”

Questions will continue to be raised on Tuesday about the vetting process and what Sabisky’s exact role had been. He described himself as a political “super-forecaster” on online blogs and once wrote on the blog run by Dominic Cummings, Johnson’s chief aide.

A catalogue of racist and callous published remarks has emerged since the weekend, many from several years ago.

They include comments that black people have a lower average IQ than white people, adding that they were more “in the range of IQs 75 or below, at which point we are close to the typical boundary for mild mental retardation”.

In Schools Week 2016 he argued that drugs for narcolepsy could be used to improve brain function, even though there were health risks. “From a societal perspective the benefits of giving everyone modafinil once a week are probably worth a dead kid once a year,” he said.

He also suggested the legal enforcement of contraception at the onset of puberty to prevent an underclass because benefit claimants “reproduce at higher rates than the general population”.

The Tory MP Caroline Nokes, who is chair of the Commons’ women and equalities select committee, said she was disappointed by the silence from Downing Street regarding Sabisky.

“It does seem that when the call went out for misfits and weirdos that’s exactly what Downing Street got,” she told the Radio 4 Today programme.

“And no comment from Downing Street, who could have chosen to distance themselves from his youthful comments at any point, but they chose not to do so.

“I’m disappointed that it took this long for either this young man to resign or for Downing Street to take action.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/18/andrew-sabisky-no-10-hiring-process-needs-looking-at-minister-kwasi-kwarteng

[arista]

Poster your Title needs Updating
he was Sacked

[Crimson Dynamo]

I just read this - Andrew Sabisky: What is superforecasting? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51545541

Yes and its the point Dominic is making, whilst people are dredging up a kids past like thought police Dominic is looking to the future with new ways of doing politics

its why he is so successful and why Boris cleverly hired him. Brilliant strategy from Boris who always surrounds himself with "smarts"


Labour are so far behind in this aspect i cant see them getting to power in the next 20 years

[Tom4784]

Focusing on Labour instead of the party with the current majority government will always be bizarre to me. It's almost like Tory supporters don't want to acknowledge that they've ****ed up so every bad thing that happens from now on they'll find a way to place blame on Labour or anyone else so they don't have to shoulder the blame for putting Tories in a position of power.

[Twosugars]

Poster your Title needs Updating
he was Sacked

Done, poster. Thanks.

They are reporting it as a "resignation" so that's what I stuck with

[Twosugars]

Yes and its the point Dominic is making, whilst people are dredging up a kids past like thought police Dominic is looking to the future with new ways of doing politics

its why he is so successful and why Boris cleverly hired him. Brilliant strategy from Boris who always surrounds himself with "smarts"


Labour are so far behind in this aspect i cant see them getting to power in the next 20 years

Smart far right? Surely an oxymoron :hehe:

[Zizu]

Smart far right? Surely an oxymoron :hehe:



Whatever you may think there’s no denying that Boris is an immensely intelligent guy ... don’t fall for all the buffoonery kidology


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[Twosugars]

Whatever you may think there’s no denying that Boris is an immensely intelligent guy ... don’t fall for all the buffoonery kidology


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I was referring to the ex aide, not bojo.

I'm aware bojo is a crafty and cynical operator.
Time will tell how intelligent his choices will be.

[Twosugars]

Btw I dont consider bojo far right.
Bojo is a centrist as far as he has any convictions. But he is not a conviction politician, above all else he is an opportunist. So if going far right will get him what he wants he will go there. No morals or convictions to speak of to stop him.

[arista]

Andrew
made a Documentary for BBC
back in 2017.

A clip was shown on BBCnewsHD

[Twosugars]

https://i.imgur.com/GxNLjWn.jpg