Looks like Harry and Meghan may lose their Sussex Royal Branding

[jet]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8018043/Queen-BANS-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-using-Sussex-Royal-brand-cost-thousands.html

Queen BANS Prince Harry and Meghan Markle from using lucrative 'Sussex Royal' brand that they hoped to use to build new lives because 'they simply cannot sell themselves as Royals’
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex spent tens of thousands of pounds on a new Sussex Royal website and their hugely popular Instagram feed
Couple sought to register Sussex Royal as global trademark for a range of items and activities, including clothing, stationery, books and social-care services
Also looked to set up a new charitable organisation – Sussex Royal, The Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex
But the Queen and senior officials are believed to have agreed it is no longer tenable for Harry and Meghan to keep the word 'royal' in their 'branding'

Good for the Queen, they shouldn't be able to capitalise on their royal status to make a ton of money (they are in talks with big banks and businesses, no less!)

They were paid £750, 000 last week for Harry to talk at a JP Morgan conference about the effect the death of his mother had on him. He has been roundly criticised for using Diana's death to make big bucks...

[Oliver_W]

:/ What'll he do when "if" they get divorced?

[LaLaLand]

Makes sense to me.

[LaLaLand]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex spent tens of thousands of pounds on a new Sussex Royal website and their hugely popular Instagram feed

Mhmm.

[Marsh.]

Tabloid bollocks.

[Marsh.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8018043/Queen-BANS-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-using-Sussex-Royal-brand-cost-thousands.html



Good for the Queen, they shouldn't be able to capitalise on their royal status to make a ton of money (they are in talks with big banks and businesses, no less!)

They were paid £750, 000 last week for Harry to talk at a JP Morgan conference about the effect the death of his mother had on him. He has been roundly criticised for using Diana's death to make big bucks...

Harry can't do an interview but people who were nothing to her can cash in on her life and death ad nauseum.

Sounds about right from the British press.

[jet]

https://www.ran.org/issue/jpmc/

The science couldn’t be more clear. According to the latest UN climate report, we have less than 11 years to cut global emissions in half.

We followed the money. The data revealed that JPMorgan Chase, time and time again, is by far the worst funder of fossil fuels and fossil fuel expansion –– by a wide margin.

Since the Paris climate agreement, JPMorgan Chase’s $67 billion in finance for fossil fuel expansions is 68% higher than CitiBank, in distant second place. Clearly put, Chase is the world’s worst banker of climate change and we won’t back down until we stop them.


So much for the Sussexes stance on climate change...

[Marsh.]

That puzzle piece doesn't quite fit in the mis-shapen hole it's supposed to.

[Twosugars]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8018043/Queen-BANS-Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-using-Sussex-Royal-brand-cost-thousands.html



Good for the Queen, they shouldn't be able to capitalise on their royal status to make a ton of money (they are in talks with big banks and businesses, no less!)

They were paid £750, 000 last week for Harry to talk at a JP Morgan conference about the effect the death of his mother had on him. He has been roundly criticised for using Diana's death to make big bucks...

What's daily Hail excuse for cashing on Diana?

[Beso]

I'm sure I heard on the news he keeps his army ranks..

Lounging about in Canada as his soldiers Polish brass...yeah, nothing royal about that at all

[Marsh.]

And I suppose lounging about in the UK on the taxpayer's dime was a better option?

[Beso]

And I suppose lounging about in the UK on the taxpayer's dime was a better option?

That was his privalige then..not now though.:nono:

[Oliver_W]

I'm sure I heard on the news he keeps his army ranks..

Lounging about in Canada as his soldiers Polish brass...yeah, nothing royal about that at all

Why would he not keep his ranks? Military achievement can't be taken away.

[Twosugars]

That was his privalige then..not now though.:nono:
:facepalm:
Earning an army rank is not a privilege, it's an achievement.

Every soldier keeps his rank for life unless they are court marshalled and stripped for a crime.
He may retire from active service but his rank remain

[jet]

What's daily Hail excuse for cashing on Diana?

They are a newspaper in case you need reminded, like all the other newspspers who reported on her....Harry supposedly wanted privacy, but he gets on a stage and talks about his mother for mega bucks. William would never....

[Beso]

:facepalm:
Earning an army rank is not a privilege, it's an achievement.

Every soldier keeps his rank for life unless they are court marshalled and stripped for a crime.
He may retire from active service but his rank remain



I gave up at earning. Couldn't see for tears. :joker:.

[user104658]

:think: All sorts of brands use the term "Royal" that have piss all to do with the royal family.

https://d2rp9bqx0m7ihv.cloudfront.net/media/1/photos/products/000041/41-mini-puppy_10_g.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRi1Smi07MqA8SPFNSQGMWknnnDtcf 2CkxiNY1kRSBj1Md-Iwpj

[Crimson Dynamo]

Great news, awful couple

[jet]

:think: All sorts of brands use the term "Royal" that have piss all to do with the royal family.

https://d2rp9bqx0m7ihv.cloudfront.net/media/1/photos/products/000041/41-mini-puppy_10_g.jpghttps://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRi1Smi07MqA8SPFNSQGMWknnnDtcf 2CkxiNY1kRSBj1Md-Iwpj

The point is though that senior royals aren't allowed to use their status to make big money.

....and businesses have to get permission first obviously

King, Queen or Royal

If you wish to use the name Royal, Queen or King in a company, you must seek permission from the Cabinet Office in London, the Scottish Government in Edinburgh, or the Welsh Assembly Government in Cardiff, depending in which UK jurisdiction your business is registered. You will have to include relevant information to support your case, e.g. the history or your business and/or future plans; a relevant association with the Government or Royal family; the relation of the sensitive word to a street name or surname; your business is an established public house (or similar) that has been using a particular business name for a considerable period of time.

[jet]

I wonder how long they will keep their Instagram site running. The vast majority of the comments are scathing on everything they put up. Many of the comments on this post of theirs are related to Harry's JP Morgan speech.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8MjqZQpfba/

[thesheriff443]

Harry on stage in front of the money obsessed bankers.

When I think of mummy it hurts, loud applause and shuffled off stage.

Absolute muppet.

[jet]

I think that may have been the final straw for the Queen and why it is reported she is taking their 'royal' status branding away.

[bots]

i think this case is very specific. They made a definitive decision to step back from royal life, it is the height of hypocrisy to then start a business with Royal in the name. It's hilarious that people actually try to defend it

[arista]

i think this case is very specific. They made a definitive decision to step back from royal life, it is the height of hypocrisy to then start a business with Royal in the name. It's hilarious that people actually try to defend it


Yes Good Points

[Ammi]

...for balance, it’s interesting to get a bit of an American take on this as well because obviously Canada is where they’re laying their hat down...this is a really good article in Forbes...

Ouch!

The Queen has just banned Harry and Meghan Markle from using "Sussex Royal." Apparently, they won't be allowed to sell themselves as "Royal" after stepping down as working members of the British royal family.

Game, set, match, I hear you say?

Not quite. In fact, the ban has left me scratching my head.

What was the Queen thinking?

Not only have the Duke and Duchess of Sussex spent tens of thousands of dollars on their Sussex Royal branding with a new website and Instagram page, but they've also registered Sussex Royal as a global trademark for a range of items including clothing, stationery, books, etc. And to top it off, Sussex Royal is the name of the much hyped "billion-dollar" earning charitable organization they were looking to establish—Sussex Royal, The Foundation of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

Yes, but what about maintaining the integrity of the British royal family's brand? I hear you ask.

Brand integrity doesn't mean a brand straight jacket.

In case the Queen and her advisors haven't noticed, it's 2020. The Woke consumer (born in the mid-Nineties and early 2000s) has arrived, and the rules of the game have changed.

Yes, you have to remain true to who you are and what you believe in. I like to call that brand authenticity. But that doesn't mean you are inflexible to change, you don't reinvent yourself with the times, and you end up losing relevance with a new Generation-Z that thinks and feels very differently from previous generations. (An audience, by the way, that represents $150 billion of spending power in the United States and makes up a whopping 40% of consumers worldwide.)

Just look at what happened to Victoria's Secret.

In my 2015 interview with Business Insider, I predicted the demise of Victoria's Secret brand. The brand refused to embrace body positivity and continued to perpetuate "conventional" media ideals of beauty and what it meant to have a sexy body.

I have no doubt that Victoria's Secret also thought they were retaining their brand "integrity" too. That's before their parent company J Brand's share price tanked, and their integrity went out the window. Too bad.

So what can we all learn from this situation?

First off, allowing Harry and Meghan Markle to retain their "Royal" Sussex brand would have been an excellent opportunity for the entire British royal family brand. I have no doubt the dynamic inter-racial duo would have helped the royal family press refresh on the brand that is quickly losing relevance, especially in the USA. As I've said in my interview in with The Times, in 2017, the U.S. declined to go gaga over the royal baby. I'm not saying we haven't seen a temporary uptick in interest since the wedding and the royal exit fiasco. But as a whole, Millennials and Gen-Z are just not that into the royals.

Secondly, there is a greater need for innovation and entrepreneurialism in the marketplace—not to mention more forgiveness than ever before. Long gone are the days that the most prominent celebrities like Michael Jackson would emerge from their Neverlands once a year to do an interview with Oprah. Now audiences want full access to organizations and individuals, and they don't mind if they mess up with their brand extensions. They want to see it all.

Does anyone remember Mastercard's Kardashian Kard, the prepaid debit card? How about Cosmopolitan yogurt? That's right, the women's magazine Cosmopolitan, that launched a yogurt. Probably not.

Even if some of you do remember these brand mess-ups, today, it makes these brands more human. Vulnerability and flaws are where's it at for organizations and individuals today. And, leaders need to recognize that if they're not facing resistance or making any mistakes, they're probably not on the right path.

Last but not least, I'm a big believer in the age-old saying: “no risk, no reward.”

Audiences want to align with individuals and enterprises on a values level. And, a whole new breed of fan-appointed "Royals” have arrived. (Think David and Victoria Beckham or Beyonce and Jay-Z.) So, there's no sitting on the fence and playing it safe. Not in this climate anyway.

Twitter is abuzz with encouraging responses to the Queen's decision to ban Harry and Meghan Markle from using "Royal" in Sussex Royal.

"You don't mess with the boss," states one, "Boom!" says another, "The queen always wins," tweets a third.

But does she now?

I believe with decision making like this, she might end up being the biggest loser.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeetendrsehdev/2020/02/19/the-queen-bans-prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-from-using-sussex-royal-brand-heres-why-thats-a-bad-idea/

[thesheriff443]

They ran away from the royal family and responsibilities but wanted to hang on to royal status to live independently while using it to make money by selling them selves to anyone that will entertain them.

[thesheriff443]

And as to Forbes article, what a load of bollox, Harry and Meghan are an embarrassment to the queen not an asset.

[jet]

https://www.ccn.com/meghan-markle-prince-harrys-shameful-brand-plot-hits-a-royal-hurdle/

Meghan Markle & Prince Harry’s Shameful Brand Plot Hits a Royal Hurdle

What Meghan and Harry choose to peddle to audiences in the U.S. is entirely up to them. But in the U.K., where they know a thing or two about royalty, they aren't buying it.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle stepped away from royal duties due to privacy concerns. Or so they claimed.
Harry’s $1 million JPMorgan speech signaled the “coming out” party for Meghan and Harry’s new brand.
Their plans have been disrupted by the Queen ordering them to stop using the Sussex Royal tag in their branding.

It was all going so well. Meghan Markle and her real-life Prince Charming managed to negotiate their way out of royal life and the stresses that come with it.
Not only that, they’d done so while managing to retain the components needed to kickstart their money-spinning brand and take full advantage of the royal name.
Sure, they wouldn’t be able to use the HRH titles. That wasn’t ideal, but hey, they still had the far sexier “Sussex Royal” brand.
Or so they thought.
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry had spent thousands of dollars to secure the trademarked rights to the Sussex Royal tag.
There was a website launched with the name last month. That seems to have coincided with their announcement that they were too fragile for life in the public eye.
Plans for the Sussex Royal brand had been well underway.
There’s just one problem. It seems the Queen isn’t having any of it.

[Marsh.]

Multi-billion charitable foundation?

Omg how SELFISH.

[Marsh.]

That was his privalige then..not now though.:nono:

So he has the privilege to lounge on the taxpayer's dime but not his own? :think:

Logic.

[bots]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are to stop using their "SussexRoyal" brand from spring 2020.

A spokesperson for the couple said due to government rules around the use of the word "royal" it had been agreed not to name their non-profit organisation, the Sussex Royal Foundation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51593708

[jet]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are to stop using their "SussexRoyal" brand from spring 2020.

A spokesperson for the couple said due to government rules around the use of the word "royal" it had been agreed not to name their non-profit organisation, the Sussex Royal Foundation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51593708

Which means they can't use it to make mega bucks, which they intended:

An application to trademark the Sussex Royal brand has also been withdrawn.

Just heard on a usa channel, they are apparently furious and Meghan is going to fight it - sounds unlikely....D:

[Ammi]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are to stop using their "SussexRoyal" brand from spring 2020.

A spokesperson for the couple said due to government rules around the use of the word "royal" it had been agreed not to name their non-profit organisation, the Sussex Royal Foundation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51593708

...again it’s been that tabloid slanting, rather than reporting....exactly the type of thing that they referred to in their recent decision to step down...it’s a government regulation and a government decision and not ‘..the Queen has banned....’....I’m sure that the queen wishes her grandson and Meghan, every success and happiness in the lives they’ve chosen...but the tabloids like to try to infer these toxic, type situations...

...anyways, I think that Harry and Meghan’s own brand, will be of huge interest and bring them great success...I hope it all does and I wish them well...:love:..

[thesheriff443]

...again it’s been that tabloid slanting, rather than reporting....exactly the type of thing that they referred to in their recent decision to step down...it’s a government regulation and a government decision and not ‘..the Queen has banned....’....I’m sure that the queen wishes her grandson and Meghan, every success and happiness in the lives they’ve chosen...but the tabloids like to try to infer these toxic, type situations...

...anyways, I think that Harry and Meghan’s own brand, will be of huge interest and bring them great success...I hope it all does and I wish them well...:love:..

The queen bought in top lawyers not the government, the pair have agreed to drop the royal wording.

The queen does not want this pair of sellouts being associated with the monarchy.

People are not going to throw millions at this pair of chancers.

We want are privacy except when it suits us to try to make money on the back of a so called charity foundation.

[jet]

The queen bought in top lawyers not the government, the pair have agreed to drop the royal wording.

The queen does not want this pair of sellouts being associated with the monarchy.

People are not going to throw millions at this pair of chancers.

We want are privacy except when it suits us to try to make money on the back of a so called charity foundation.

Yes, apparently the Queen can over ride any obstacles to their branding but she chose not to, she has to protect the Monarchy first and foremost. There aren’t many who are still taken in by the grifter….the privacy excuse was utter nonsense because the British press have agreed limitations when it comes to coverage of the Royal family that the US have not….and when have we ever seen a pap photo of Meghan taken in the UK? Not once. Makes no sense at all.

[Marsh.]

"Grifter"


:laugh2:

[Tom4784]

Which means they can't use it to make mega bucks, which they intended:

An application to trademark the Sussex Royal brand has also been withdrawn.

Just heard on a usa channel, they are apparently furious and Meghan is going to fight it - sounds unlikely....D:

More gossip treated as fact because it's about Meghan? I'm not shocked.

[AnnieK]

The Queen only has jurisdiction in this country therefore if Harry and Meghan wanted to sell themselves as Sussex Royal in the States, they can. They have said they won't do that to respect the Queen and her decision

[jet]

The Queen only has jurisdiction in this country therefore if Harry and Meghan wanted to sell themselves as Sussex Royal in the States, they can. They have said they won't do that to respect the Queen and her decision

'Respect' my ass. :laugh:
They didn't have much respect when they set up the 'Sussex Brand' and trademarked hundreds of items in the first place behind her back months ago.

[jet]

More gossip treated as fact because it's about Meghan? I'm not shocked.

Which part are you referring to as gossip?
The Royal brand part is true, the 'meghan is fighting it' hasn't been proved as fact and nobody has said it is and as such I said it was 'unlikely'.
So what is your point?

[Twosugars]

Big ****ing deal!

It's a new arrangement. They thought the brand was ok, queen disagreed. They've worked it out. At the end of the day the queen is in charge so they went along with her wishes.
I'm sure they will manage without the royal in Sussex, everyone knows who they are.

Another reason for those hostile to them to make a song and dance over nothing. Pathetic.
I'm glad they left this hostile environment behind them.

[AnnieK]

'Respect' my ass. :laugh:
They didn't have much respect when they set up the 'Sussex Brand' and trademarked hundreds of items in the first place behind her back months ago.

Why then have they decided to not use it in the states where the Queen can't stop them?

[GoldHeart]

Big ****ing deal!

It's a new arrangement. They thought the brand was ok, queen disagreed. They've worked it out. At the end of the day the queen is in charge so they went along with her wishes.
I'm sure they will manage without the royal in Sussex, everyone knows who they are.

Another reason for those hostile to them to make a song and dance over nothing. Pathetic.
I'm glad they left this hostile environment behind them.

I agree

[Marsh.]

'Respect' my ass. :laugh:
They didn't have much respect when they set up the 'Sussex Brand' and trademarked hundreds of items in the first place behind her back months ago.

Yeah it was known by everyone but was "behind the Queen's back" that makes sense.

[jet]

Why then have they decided to not use it in the states where the Queen can't stop them?

Because they wouldn't dare to defy her because their arrangement is on a years trial, after that it is going to be reviewed. I think the Queen is leaving the door open for them, or more probably Harry, to come back into the Royal fold if/when it all goes wrong.
They already deceived her by setting up the Sussex royal brand and website without her consent beforehand.

[Twosugars]

Deceived?

Check the meaning of the word before using it.
They'd have deceived if they set up the brand but told her they didn't.

But that didn't happen and so they didnt "deceive" her.

[jet]

Deceived?

Check the meaning of the word before using it.
They'd have deceived if they set up the brand but told her they didn't.

But that didn't happen and so they didnt "deceive" her.

As they would have had to have the implicit permission of the Queen, they did actually.

[Twosugars]

As they would have had to have the implicit permission of the Queen, they did actually.

You can say they did it without authorization but that's still very very different from deception.
Do try not to make up things.

[jet]

You can say they did it without authorization but that's still very very different from deception.
Do try not to make up things.

I disagree. Do try not to gloss over their underhand, deceptive actions like when they released their televised news of leaving the Royal family before telling the Queen and she found out about it 10 mins beforehand by a phone call telling her to go on her ipad.... I suppose that is okay too, eh?

[Marsh.]

Released their televised news of leaving the Royal family BEFORE telling the Queen and she found out about it 10 minutes BEFOREHAND?

Both those things can't be true.

[jet]

As for settling in Canada, I’d bet a high stake that they have no intentions of staying there. They said they were going to divide their time between Canada and the UK - which was misleading bull**** as they have laid off all 15 of their UK staff and closed their Buck Palace office. They have a few engagements still to fulfil in the UK until sometime in March and then that’s it.

No, they will be off to LA celebrity land before too long, which I suspect has been Meghan’s plan for quite a while…...if not all along.
They will still be able to make millions with the help of their celebrity (ahem) ‘friends’ and their royal family connection but how long will that last in that fickle, shallow world? A few years?
That is her kind of life, but it isn’t Harry’s. He has given up so much. I wonder how he is going to fare? He'll get gigs talking about his mental health problems (they are already in talks with the bankers Goldman Sachs for those) until he really goes mental. Awful idea. Poor guy.

[Twosugars]

Released their televised news of leaving the Royal family BEFORE telling the Queen and she found out about it 10 minutes BEFOREHAND?

Both those things can't be true.

:laugh:

[user104658]

Released their televised news of leaving the Royal family BEFORE telling the Queen and she found out about it 10 minutes BEFOREHAND?

Both those things can't be true.Actually Megan Markle is a demon from the quantum abyss where anything can be one, other, both or neither so I think you'll find that the queen both did and didn't know, thanks to that Markle succubus and her paradoxical gaslightling :fist:. We should have known all along that she was the sort of creature who would think nothing of defying the laws of spacetime to upset arr Liz.

[Marsh.]

Actually Megan Markle is a demon from the quantum abyss where anything can be one, other, both or neither so I think you'll find that the queen both did and didn't know, thanks to that Markle succubus and her paradoxical gaslightling :fist:. We should have known all along that she was the sort of creature who would think nothing of defying the laws of spacetime to upset arr Liz.

:laugh2:

[jet]

Actually Megan Markle is a demon from the quantum abyss where anything can be one, other, both or neither so I think you'll find that the queen both did and didn't know, thanks to that Markle succubus and her paradoxical gaslightling :fist:. We should have known all along that she was the sort of creature who would think nothing of defying the laws of spacetime to upset arr Liz.

:hehe:

But I'm disappointed in you, TS. I've just discovered that even you don't read posts properly. :bawling:

[jet]

I await accusations of suppositions and untruths as per usual even though most of what I post turns out to be true... I have good sources. No need to thank me...:smug:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-prince-harrys-hidden-21556151

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry, the Duchess and Duke of Sussex, have released a bombshell new website statement and a royal expert claims there's an "odd" reference to minor royals such as Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have further raised tensions with the Queen after being forced to abandon plans to market themselves as “Royal”.
In a move described as *“extraordinary” and “petulant”, the couple published complaints on their Sussex Royal website, which will have to be redesigned within weeks.

They questioned the power of the Queen and the Government, saying there is no legal case to stop them trading on the royal name abroad.

The statement read: “While there isn’t any jurisdiction by The Monarchy or Cabinet Office over the use of the word ‘Royal’ overseas, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex do not intend to use ‘Sussex Royal’ or any iteration of the word ‘Royal’ in any territory (either within the UK or otherwise) when the transition occurs in Spring 2020.”

The couple suggested they were being treated unfairly after the Queen, Prince Charles and Prince William agreed to allow them to leave The Firm.

As big banks and corporations queue up to work with them, they have been told to prove they can make it work while not profiting off the royal brand.

In what is also being seen as a “highly inflammatory” move, Harry and Meghan *insisted they will *continue to receive taxpayer-funded security despite no deal being reached between the UK and Canada, where they are currently living with son Archie.

The statement read: “While there is precedent for other titled members of the Royal Family to seek employment outside of the *institution, for The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, a 12-month *review period has been put in place.”

A royal source said: “It’s pretty clear they are referencing minor royals such as Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie, which is an odd association to make for two people whose associates were once claiming they had single-*handedly modernised the monarchy.”

On security, they suggested they would demand round-the-clock protection paid for by the public, owing to, “The Duke’s public profile by virtue of being born into The Royal Family, his military *service, the Duchess’ own independent profile, and the shared threat”.
A royal source said: “We’re witnessing a quite extraordinary turn of events.

“The British people will not stand for two *multi-millionaires demanding taxpayer funds after abandoning the country they should be serving.


“The latest series of comments published on the Sussexes’ website comes across as *extremely petulant and has caused a great deal of alarm inside the palace.

“This is further evidence of Harry and Meghan further ostracising *themselves from the family rather
than building bridges.”

Harry and Meghan defied the Queen on January 8 by releasing a statement on Instagram announcing they were to “step back” as senior members of the royal family.

They intended to move to North America and trade on their royal *connections to make money in the
corporate world, while setting up a charitable vehicle and *carrying out small roles for the Queen – but they were told there could be no “halfway house”.

The couple have spent thousands trademarking Sussex Royal items and marketing their website and Instagram page.

It is thought that Harry and Meghan raked in £775,000 for attending a JP Morgan summit in Florida earlier this month.

Reports also claim they could score a book deal in excess of the £49million Barack and Michelle Obama received.

They will leave their royal roles on March 31 and it is understood they have agreed to pay back the £2.4million of taxpayer funds used to renovate their Frogmore Cottage home.

[user104658]

:hehe:



But I'm disappointed in you, TS. I've just discovered that even you don't read posts properly. :bawling:Full disclosure I didn't read the post at all. I'm stuck in a weird sort of limbo with the Harry and Megan stuff because;

1) People are so obsessed with it and spaff so much hyperbole and nonsense about it that it's really sort of fascinating and worrying BUT

2) I inherently don't give a **** about the royal family, their dinner table dramas or what they're up to in any sense. Any of them. Including the Queen. Like I literally hold her in no different regard to any random old lady.

So it all starts getting a bit... Daft...

[jet]

Full disclosure I didn't read the post at all. I'm stuck in a weird sort of limbo with the Harry and Megan stuff because;

1) People are so obsessed with it and spaff so much hyperbole and nonsense about it that it's really sort of fascinating and worrying BUT

2) I inherently don't give a **** about the royal family, their dinner table dramas or what they're up to in any sense. Any of them. Including the Queen. Like I literally hold her in no different regard to any random old lady.

So it all starts getting a bit... Daft...

You sound like my good wife TS. :laugh:
For my part, the Royal Family fascinate me, going way back to Alfred the Great and every king and queen since. You would recoil in horror at the content of my bookshelves.
My poor wife has no room for her Marion Keyes and Cathy Kelly at all.
I try not to spaff nonsense - I like facts and the opinions of those who have reported on the royals for years and proved their credentials combined with my own observations.
The Queen a random old lady - I nearly needed Queen Victoria's smelling salts when I read that. :fist:

[thesheriff443]

Meghan and Harry have basically been black listed by the queen and are losing all credibility.

They are trying to sell themselves as a couple that will change the lifes of others with this so called charity foundation oh wait now it’s not a foundation they are just going to add to other charities.

An ex actress who starred in a tv series not Hollywood blockbusters and Harry who left one of the finest schools in the world with a b in art and a d in geography.

They only got in contact with a lister celebrities by inviting them to their wedding.

We want to save the planet while taking private jets

We want our privacy while jumping up on stage and telling strangers his life story.

Please continue to defend this pair of clowns because it gives me great amusement and even more so as you keep throwing in the word hate desperate to try and make those who see through meg and Harry ‘s bollox as haters.

[Ammi]

....well, I wish them both..(...and Archie...)...well in their future..:love:...
If they ‘fail’...then they fail, but they will have failed being masters of their own destinies and owners of their own lives and decisions...as Frank would have said, they’re doing it their way...:love:..

[bots]

I have no axe to grind over Meghan and Harry. I liked her in Suits, and I thought Harry seemed like a nice enough chap. I'm not a fan of royalty at all. I was disgusted by the way the queen behaved when Diana died, however, I think Megan and Harry have shown a distinct lack of responsibility and class during this saga. Nothing is ever their fault, they take no responsibility whatsoever for the position they find themselves in. For that, they get zero respect from me.

[thesheriff443]

....well, I wish them both..(...and Archie...)...well in their future..:love:...
If they ‘fail’...then they fail, but they will have failed being masters of their own destinies and owners of their own lives and decisions...as Frank would have said, they’re doing it their way...:love:..

You have been wishing these clowns well for two years.

They got killed in a barrel going over niagra falls, but at least they were doing what they wanted.

[AnnieK]

You have been wishing these clowns well for two years.

They got killed in a barrel going over niagra falls, but at least they were doing what they wanted.

And on the flip side you have been calling them clowns for 2 years.

They found a cure for cancer and ended world poverty but they still were clowns eh Sheriff??

[Cherie]

For two who want privacy they have alot to say on instagram, its’s difficult to believe at times that these two are heading for 40 as they appear quite petulant at times, I wish they would fade into obscurity and only pop up now and again like most of the other Royals particularly the minor ones

[thesheriff443]

And on the flip side you have been calling them clowns for 2 years.

They found a cure for cancer and ended world poverty but they still were clowns eh Sheriff??

I have no way been calling clowns for two years.

They are as rediculas as you saying if they cured cancer or ended world poverty.
That ain’t going to happen unless Harry can find a cure using his b in art.
They are trying to feather their own nest on the back of charity.

If you want the precious family time take a step back and spend it as a family in the privacy of your own home and play with your little boy not keep leaving him with yet another nanny.


It’s look at us ain’t we great helping poor people but first we got to chat bollox to the world bankers for a few pound for ourselves.

[Cherie]

I have no way been calling clowns for two years.

They are as rediculas as you saying if they cured cancer or ended world poverty.
That ain’t going to happen unless Harry can find a cure using his b in art.
They are trying to feather their own nest on the back of charity.

If you want the precious family time take a step back and spend it as a family in the privacy of your own home and play with your little boy not keep leaving him with yet another nanny.


It’s look at us ain’t we great helping poor people but first we got to chat bollox to the world bankers for a few pound for ourselves.

:joker:

[Kazanne]

I have no axe to grind over Meghan and Harry. I liked her in Suits, and I thought Harry seemed like a nice enough chap. I'm not a fan of royalty at all. I was disgusted by the way the queen behaved when Diana died, however, I think Megan and Harry have shown a distinct lack of responsibility and class during this saga. Nothing is ever their fault, they take no responsibility whatsoever for the position they find themselves in. For that, they get zero respect from me.

This is mainly my thinking,I really liked Harry,never seen Megan in anything but liked her from what I saw ,I do however feel they kind of want it all their way.

[Marsh.]

This is mainly my thinking,I really liked Harry,never seen Megan in anything but liked her from what I saw ,I do however feel they kind of want it all their way.

Yep, they want their lives their way. I don't blame them in the slightest.

[Twosugars]

Actually Megan Markle is a demon from the quantum abyss where anything can be one, other, both or neither so I think you'll find that the queen both did and didn't know, thanks to that Markle succubus and her paradoxical gaslightling :fist:. We should have known all along that she was the sort of creature who would think nothing of defying the laws of spacetime to upset arr Liz.

:laugh::laugh:

[jet]

More trouble likely for royal family before official exit of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle
The official statement of Harry and Meghan about the queen didn't go down well with royal experts who criticised them for being childish.

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/more-trouble-likely-royal-family-before-official-exit-prince-harry-meghan-markle-1675899

Extract
"The language is stilted, cold and legalistic, the sentiments juvenile and angry. It is an expression of childish irritation that insults the most admired person in British public life. And this, more than anything, is what gives the game away. Are the Duke and Duchess of Sussex really trying to take on the Queen, whose lifetime of duty to her nation is admired around the world? Is it actually what they intended? Or is it a petulant retort from self-important young people who have grown all-too used to having their own way?" asks royal biographerAngela Levin.
She added that she has experienced Harry to be "charismatic and intuitive, a man with impeccable manners who is full of consideration to others and lights up in the presence of those who need his help."

"What on earth has happened to that Harry?

He married Meghan Markle and let himself be influenced by her and her American team of lawyers and PR, thats what. If only they had gone to established royal advisors and let them handle their exit without any bad feelings, instead if planning it all, including the setting up of their disastrous and self - important social media site, sneakliy behind the backs of the family and court. It's as if they were asking for big trouble.
I am worried for Harry, I've always liked him, but its very disappointing how he has let his wife and her advisors do things the way they have, creating such a mess and turning his relationship with his family sour. I can't believe he is the instigator in how it was all handled. It's not him, or at least the man he was.

[jet]

Reactions of respected people who have known the royals for many years.

Ingrid Seward, editor in chief of Majesty Magazine:
“It appears to be a gratuitous and ungracious swipe at the Queen.”

Angela Levin, Harry’s official Biographer:
I fear she has put a sliver of ice in Harry’s heart.

Tom Bower, Charles’s Biographer:
Their comments smack of spiteful fury. I fear it will get worse.

Dickie Arbiter, former spokesman for the Queen:
Harry knows the rules. Meghan knows the rules. It’s been made very clear to them.

Penny Junor, Royal Biographer and friend of Prince Charles:
“They didn’t get what they wanted. They are clearly not happy and there is a hint of suppressed rage.

Angela Levin, Harry’s Biographer:
Harry and Meghan are almost stumbling in their rush to join a world of rich, self - centred celebrities.

Penny Junor, Royal Biographer and friend of Prince Charles:
I’m worried about Prince Harry….I fear something is seriously amiss and he’s on a trajectory of self destruction.

Some numbty’s think everything they say is lies and they are saying these things to destroy Harry and Meghan. :omgno:
Random people who don’t have a clue think they know better and the Sussexes can do no wrong.
It’s quite hilarious. :laugh:

[Nicky91]

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[Marsh.]

Omg Meghan scrapped the over 75s license fee. :omgno:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Eamonn Holmes declares that Meghan Markle is “uppity�, “spoilt�, “woke�, “manipulative�, “awful�, denigrating a woman he’s never met but claims it had nothing to do with racism

what the hell is this gobbledygook?

[Niamh.]

Deleted 81 posts in here :oh: Stop getting personal with eachother or I'll be handing out infractions

[Cherie]

81 :omgno::

[Crimson Dynamo]

a veritable massacre :omgno:

[user104658]

Deleted 81 posts in here :oh: Stop getting personal with eachother or I'll be handing out infractionsAnd 70 of those were Cherie! Desgustang.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This would not have happened in a Kate and Wills thread


:hmph:

[Cherie]

And 70 of those were Cherie! Desgustang.

:hmph:

[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/5857/production/_114251622_star.jpg

The one thread - Not Locked

[rusticgal]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/5857/production/_114251622_star.jpg

The one thread - Not Locked

Yet....:laugh:

[bots]

i found a snip of the musical they are producing

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[jet]

i found a snip of the musical they are producing

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:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/cache.php?img=http%3A%2F%2Fc.files.bbci.co.uk%2F58 57%2Fproduction%2F_114251622_star.jpg



" a publicity shy couple who fled the UK.."

:laugh2:

[Ramsay]

Cringe

[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/181E1/production/_114258789_mir6.jpg

[Beso]

How common...