View Full Version : Trump hates Parasite because he is a racist
Tom4784
21-02-2020, 04:10 PM
Donald Trump has taken a jab at the Oscars for awarding this year’s best picture honor to Parasite, because the film is South Korean.
“How bad were the Academy Awards this year?” Trump asked a rally in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The crowd responded with loud boos.
“The winner is a movie from South Korea, what the hell was that all about?” Trump asked. “We got enough problems with South Korea with trade and on top of it, they give them the best movie of the year.”
Parasite made Oscars history as the first film not in English to win best picture. The capitalist satire also won awards for best director, best original screenplay and best international film.
“Was it good? I don’t know. I’m looking for, like – can we get like Gone With The Wind back, please?” Trump said, to loud cheers.
Gone With the Wind, which tells the story of the daughter of a Georgia plantation owner during and after the civil war, has long been criticized for its depiction of relationships between black slaves and their white masters. The novel from which the film is adapted described the Ku Klux Klan as a “tragic necessity” and made such free use of derogatory slurs for black people that the NAACP got involved with the production of the movie. The producers deleted the racial epithets after the black actors in the film – Hattie McDaniel made history as the first black person to win an Oscar for her role – complained.
When Parasite won the Golden Globe for best foreign-language film, its director, Bong Joon-ho, said: “Once you overcome the one-inch tall barrier of subtitles, you will be introduced to so many more amazing films.
“I think we use only one language: the cinema,” he added.
Neon, the studio that distributed Parasite in the US, responded to Trump’s dig on Twitter with a dig of its own: “Understandable, he can’t read.”
“The comments by the President of The United States of America on Parasite are a clear racist dog whistle and as such do not warrant being debated,” added Curzon, the film’s UK distributors. “The box office result of Parasite, which has outperformed numerous best picture winners, proves this is clearly not a prejudice shared by film fans in the UK. Parasite expands to 561 sites this weekend for those who prefer to watch films for themselves before casting judgment.”
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/feb/20/trump-parasite-oscar-south-korea
Neon speaking the truth :clap1: Dumb ****er's damn near illiterate.
Kate!
21-02-2020, 04:13 PM
I really hate Trump. Diabolical bastard.
GoldHeart
21-02-2020, 04:22 PM
I really hate Trump. Diabolical bastard.
Diabolical ORANGE bastard I think you'll find lol
I challenge the Blue Dragon film awards to award an English speaking language film the winner of their best film (for the first time ever)
Not gonna happen.
Tom4784
21-02-2020, 04:27 PM
The best film won.
Crimson Dynamo
21-02-2020, 04:30 PM
Brilliant Film Gone with the Wind, a classic, he is Right
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 04:32 PM
The POTUS focusing on the important stuff as usual.
Elliot
21-02-2020, 04:50 PM
Don’t know who he is trying to win over by slamming a widely loved film..
arista
21-02-2020, 04:54 PM
Brilliant Film Gone with the Wind, a classic, he is Right
Yes he Prefers that.
does not make him a Racist
Dezzy.
Fake Title
arista
21-02-2020, 04:55 PM
The best film won.
Yes They Love Parasite
made on the Cheap......................
arista
21-02-2020, 04:57 PM
Nollywood
is doing well on Netflix.
Nigerian's use Black USA and China
Ref: CNN Business today
Jordan.
21-02-2020, 04:59 PM
He must be mad because he thought it was gonna be about him
Twosugars
21-02-2020, 05:24 PM
Yes he Prefers that.
does not make him a Racist
Dezzy.
Fake Title
It does.
He picks on it bc it's a foreign film.
Everyone knows he is a racist and white supremacist. No good pretending, poster.
How on earth can a man's opinion on a stupid and pointless back slapping awards ceremony get you all so perched.
Look at the hate he gets for a simple comment on a simple subject.....
@othersaswell
Jordan.
21-02-2020, 06:43 PM
How on earth can a man's opinion on a stupid and pointless back slapping awards ceremony get you all so perched.
Look at the hate he gets for a simple comment on a simple subject.....
@othersaswell
yes it's not like that man's opinion holds any weight he's only a world leader.
yes it's not like that man's opinion holds any weight he's only a world leader.
Talking about an awards ceremony...oh my God. .are you for real...had reality tv pickled that brain of yours?
China's gonna blow us up cause trump doesn't think a film he ain't watched should have won an award..
For real?
Crimson Dynamo
21-02-2020, 06:46 PM
yes it's not like that man's opinion holds any weight he's only a world leader.
so he cant hold an opinion on a film?
wow
Braden
21-02-2020, 06:47 PM
Reason #3774 for why Donald Trump is trash.
Says far more about the people judging a man's opinion on a film than a man having an opinion on a film...ffs..even if he ain't even watched it..thus ain't even news worthy...get it on another forum
.
General chat maybe.
arista
21-02-2020, 06:49 PM
It does.
He picks on it bc it's a foreign film.
Everyone knows he is a racist and white supremacist. No good pretending, poster.
Yes Every Left Winger
sure.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 06:49 PM
How on earth can a man's opinion on a stupid and pointless back slapping awards ceremony get you all so perched.
Look at the hate he gets for a simple comment on a simple subject.....
Because it's not an opinion on an awards ceremony. It's an opinion on a foreign film he's slagging off for being foreign.
You don't see anything wrong with the POTUS being openly racist?
Jordan.
21-02-2020, 06:50 PM
Talking about an awards ceremony...oh my God. .are you for real...had reality tv pickled that brain of yours?
China's gonna blow us up cause trump doesn't think a film he ain't watched should have won an award..
For real?
oh we're pretending he actually cared about the film and wasn't just using it as a platform to being openly xenophobic.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 06:50 PM
How on earth can a man's opinion on a stupid and pointless back slapping awards ceremony get you all so perched.
Look at the hate he gets for a simple comment on a simple subject.....
@othersaswell
Talking about an awards ceremony...oh my God. .are you for real...had reality tv pickled that brain of yours?
China's gonna blow us up cause trump doesn't think a film he ain't watched should have won an award..
For real?
Says far more about the people judging a man's opinion on a film than a man having an opinion on a film...ffs..even if he ain't even watched it..thus ain't even news worthy...get it on another forum
.
General chat maybe.
Certainly got you "perched".
Crimson Dynamo
21-02-2020, 06:50 PM
Because it's not an opinion on an awards ceremony. It's an opinion on a foreign film he's slagging off for being foreign.
You don't see anything wrong with the POTUS being openly racist?
he isnt being racist
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 06:51 PM
he isnt being racist
Yes, he is.
Because it's not an opinion on an awards ceremony. It's an opinion on a foreign film he's slagging off for being foreign.
You don't see anything wrong with the POTUS being openly racist?
He simply wants an American film about America to win..absolutely nothing wrong with that..
You only have to check tibb and the Americans in the celeb bb and the anti foreigner winning a british bb stance taken by many many a viewer and tibb member to see that as a normal reaction. .
And also a non story..president or not.
Certainly got you "perched".
I'm like your hand on a rolled up fiver with this thread.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 06:56 PM
He simply wants an American film about America to win..absolutely nothing wrong with that..
You only have to check tibb and the Americans in the celeb bb and the anti foreigner winning a british bb stance taken by many many a viewer and tibb member to see that as a normal reaction.
He didn't have a problem with the movie not being American. He had a problem with the movie being Korean. That is very different.
And also a non story..president or not.
On the contrary, it's another example of what the POTUS chooses to spend his time focussing on. A very worrying trend it is.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 06:56 PM
I'm like your hand on a rolled up fiver with this thread.
Never held such a low value note in my life.
He didn't have a problem with the movie not being American. He had a problem with the movie being Korean. That is very different.
On the contrary, it's another example of what the POTUS chooses to spend his time focussing on. A very worrying trend it is.
What is Korean?
Is that a country squeezed in the middle?
Never held such a low value note in my life.
I hope you don't spend all day changeling your loose change..:nono:
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 07:00 PM
What is Korean?
Is that a country squeezed in the middle?
You really have to be told at your age that Korean is a language?
Or do they all look the same to the casual racist?
You really have to be told at your age that Korean is a language?
Is American?
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 07:01 PM
Is American?
Americans speak English.
Did you go to school?
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 07:02 PM
*Mocks everyone for daring to have an opinion on the President being openly racist.
Finds it a pointless waste of time*
*Spends time then cheapening racism*
Logic.
Americans speak English.
Did you go to school?
Yes I did.but you said trump doesn't have a problem because it's not American. .he has a problem with it being Korean. ..you can't therefore connect that statements with languages. :shrug:
Like you tried to when i spotted your casual racism.
Jordan.
21-02-2020, 07:04 PM
Or do they all look the same to the casual racist?
You tell us you were the one who called them Chinese on the last page
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 07:05 PM
Yes I did.but you said trump doesn't have a problem because it's not American. .he has a problem with it being Korean. ..you can't therefore connect that statements with languages. :shrug:
Yes, I can. Korean is a foreign language. If the film was British, it wouldn't be American, but it would still be English... the language he speaks.
Baffling that such a thing needs to be pointed out to you. He clearly states in his comment the problem is the film being Korean.
Like you tried to when i spotted your casual racism.
What are you on about now?
Crimson Dynamo
21-02-2020, 07:06 PM
He didn't have a problem with the movie not being American. He had a problem with the movie being Korean. That is very different.
On the contrary, it's another example of what the POTUS chooses to spend his time focussing on. A very worrying trend it is.
what race is Korean? Its an ethnicity
and it was a rally, he can talk about what he likes
Glenn.
21-02-2020, 07:07 PM
The orange, racist, fat old tart once again showing himself to be as useless as a chocolate teapot.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 07:07 PM
and it was a rally, he can talk about what he likes
Nobody said otherwise. He can do whatever he wants, anybody is allowed to call out his racism and xenophobia when he shows his hand.
You tell us you were the one who called them Chinese on the last page
I called the Chinese Chinese. Pickles.x
Yes, I can. Korean is a foreign language. If the film was British, it wouldn't be American, but it would still be English... the language he speaks.
Baffling that such a thing needs to be pointed out to you. He clearly states in his comment the problem is the film being Korean.
What are you on about now?
Trump would have said "it was made in korean" if he was on about languages....he didn't
Your casual racism.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 07:15 PM
Your casual racism.
Such as?
Such as?
Seeing all korean people as the same.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 07:21 PM
Seeing all korean people as the same.
As baiting goes, this is weak Parm.
As baiting goes, this is weak Parm.
That's what your post said to me....I can only respond to how I see posts..I apologise if I'm wrong.
But you ain't explained yourself yet..:shrug:
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 07:50 PM
That's what your post said to me....I can only respond to how I see posts..I apologise if I'm wrong.
But you ain't explained yourself yet..:shrug:
Which post is that my love?
I don't think casual racism is the correct term though. .involuntary racism, or something else that means it's there without you knowing.
Shaun
21-02-2020, 07:52 PM
Why does anyone care :facepalm:
He didn't have a problem with the movie not being American. He had a problem with the movie being Korean. That is very different.
On the contrary, it's another example of what the POTUS chooses to spend his time focussing on. A very worrying trend it is.
This one..
He didn't have a problem with the movie not being American. He had a problem with the movie being Korean. That is very different.
On the contrary, it's another example of what the POTUS chooses to spend his time focussing on. A very worrying trend it is.
And this one.
You really have to be told at your age that Korean is a language?
And this one
What has his statement got to do with a spoken language?
The only baiting is the last one I quoted as well by the way..."at your age"
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 08:00 PM
You're trying exceptionally hard Parmnion, not hard enough though.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 08:02 PM
What has his statement got to do with a spoken language?
His entire reason for hating that it won is that it's Korean. Did you post without reading the article again?
His entire reason for hating that it won is that it's Korean. Did you post without reading the article again?
Yes.a foreign film winning an American film award..
What's wrong with that?
It's got nothing to do with language though, cause trumps language used did not indicate he didn't like the choice because of the language it was in.. it merely indicated what many of us think about foriegners winning bgt etc
But you have him down as being racist in his remarks..:shrug:
That's a bit strong is it not?
Twosugars
21-02-2020, 08:16 PM
Yes.a foreign film winning an American film award..
What's wrong with that?
It's got nothing to do with language though, cause trumps language used did not indicate he didn't like the choice because of the language it was in.. it merely indicated what many of us think about foriegners winning bgt etc
But you have him down as being racist in his remarks..:shrug:
That's a bit strong is it not?
What many of you think about foreigners winning? Enlighten us what is wrong with that in an open competition like bgt
Elliot
21-02-2020, 08:26 PM
Yes.a foreign film winning an American film award..
What's wrong with that?
It's got nothing to do with language though, cause trumps language used did not indicate he didn't like the choice because of the language it was in.. it merely indicated what many of us think about foriegners winning bgt etc
But you have him down as being racist in his remarks..:shrug:
That's a bit strong is it not?
Does the average person actually have a problem with people from different countries winning bgt? D: I’d like to think not considering how popular Attraction was
GoldHeart
21-02-2020, 08:51 PM
I was happy when Attraction won ,hands down one of the best winners on BGT :cheer2:.
Glenn.
21-02-2020, 09:03 PM
Yes.a foreign film winning an American film award..
What's wrong with that?
It's got nothing to do with language though, cause trumps language used did not indicate he didn't like the choice because of the language it was in.. it merely indicated what many of us think about foriegners winning bgt etc
But you have him down as being racist in his remarks..:shrug:
That's a bit strong is it not?
It is racist
Twosugars
21-02-2020, 09:36 PM
The Oscars are open to all films, it is not designed for american films only.
Trump is a racist, confirmed yet again.
What many of you think about foreigners winning? Enlighten us what is wrong with that in an open competition like bgt
It was the royal us..I don't watch these sorts of programmes for that very reason though..
Bloody Japanese acrobats pinging about all ninja like when we could have had a group of oaps from a care home singing xmas carols....no thank you. ...this is Britains got talent..
Not comers and goers.
The Oscars are open to all films, it is not designed for american films only.
Trump is a racist, confirmed yet again.
No he ain't. .even thought hats true what you said about open to all films...it's just his opinion that they are an American awards ceremony so they should be for American made films.
Glenn.
21-02-2020, 09:51 PM
Trump is racist. Anyone who wilfully ignores that must be a racist too.
Glenn.
21-02-2020, 09:52 PM
Like I can’t imagine being so dumb you would wilfully fight Trumps corner
Trump is racist. Anyone who wilfully ignores that must be a racist too.
That comes across like something a child would say before stomping up the stairs in tears.
Glenn.
21-02-2020, 10:03 PM
That comes across like something a child would say before stomping up the stairs in tears.
‘I can’t disagree with you so I’ll call you a child instead’
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 10:05 PM
Yes.a foreign film winning an American film award..
What's wrong with that?
It's got nothing to do with language though, cause trumps language used did not indicate he didn't like the choice because of the language it was in.. it merely indicated what many of us think about foriegners winning bgt etc
But you have him down as being racist in his remarks..:shrug:
That's a bit strong is it not?
You clearly don't understand what you're talking about.
The Oscars is about celebrating film. The American Movie Awards are an entirely separate event.
‘I can’t disagree with you so I’ll call you a child instead’
I called your words a child...I don't know you from Adam pal..nor want to.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 10:06 PM
Bloody Japanese acrobats pinging about all ninja like
Strange how you can't recognise racism in Trump when you're so familiar with it.
Glenn.
21-02-2020, 10:07 PM
Preach it
Strange how you can't recognise racism in Trump when you're so familiar with it.
I've not seen many Afghanistan or swedish acrobats pinging about all ninja like on bgt, have you ?
The majority for me have been Japanese which is why that was the first nation that came to mind.
Thankfully I'm not famous, cause your reaction could have me doubting myself enough that I want to die.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 10:14 PM
I've not seen many Afghanistan or swedish acrobats pinging about all ninja like on bgt, have you ?
The majority for me have been Japanese which is why that was the first nation that came to mind.
Thankfully I'm not famous, cause your reaction could have me doubting myself enough that I want to die.
And now mocking a woman's suicide.
Stay classy, Parm. :thumbs:
Glenn.
21-02-2020, 10:18 PM
I’ve had enough of that hideous monster now.
The Oscars are open to all films, it is not designed for american films only.
Trump is a racist, confirmed yet again.They have a best international film/foriegn language film catagory.
This was pure submission to the bullies, who bully them by constantly getting on their case about diversity and inclusion rubbish.
Elliot
21-02-2020, 10:27 PM
Parasite was an amazing film that deserves all the accolades and love it got
Twosugars
21-02-2020, 10:30 PM
It was the royal us..I don't watch these sorts of programmes for that very reason though..
Bloody Japanese acrobats pinging about all ninja like when we could have had a group of oaps from a care home singing xmas carols....no thank you. ...this is Britains got talent..
Not comers and goers.
Why have a go at foreign contestants and not british judges who set the rules?
Contestants only enter bc they're allowed to. Why not direct your complaint at those who set the rules?
No he ain't. .even thought hats true what you said about open to all films...it's just his opinion that they are an American awards ceremony so they should be for American made films.
Come off it. Trump wasn't born yesterday. Everybody knows foreign films always compete.
Foreign directors win for foreign films, foreign actors win for foreign films.
It was a racist dog whistle to please his audience.
Ironic for a country of immigrants. His bloody father came from germany not so long ago.
Disgusting
Twosugars
21-02-2020, 10:34 PM
They have a best international film/foriegn language film catagory.
This was pure submission to the bullies, who bully them by constantly getting on their case about diversity and inclusion rubbish.
And they've always had rules to let films, actors, directors compete in other categories.
The film was strong enough to be submitted, simple.
Nothing to do with any agenda.
The only one with an agenda is trump or drumpf as his name used to be before his family emigrated to america
Btw farage, another racist, hails from france :laugh:
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 10:35 PM
They have a best international film/foriegn language film catagory.
Best Picture is about the best film in the industry, it has never been the Best American Movie. A French movie won Best Picture in 2011.
It means nothing anyway, the best film rarely wins this award. And this year was no different, I don't even have to watch it to know Joker is better. And I decide what's best in my house.
Best Picture is about the best film in the industry, it has never been the Best American Movie. A French movie won Best Picture in 2011.
A bit like crufts then..That's a waste of time and money as well.
Twosugars
21-02-2020, 11:08 PM
It means nothing anyway, the best film rarely wins this award. And this year was no different, I don't even have to watch it to know Joker is better. And I decide what's best in my house.
That's not the point and you know it.
Nobody forces you or drumpf to like Parasite.
But pretending Oscar's are for american only films or parasite won bc of some diversity agenda is not true.
The film has enough fans in the industry who call it a masterpiece to win based on merits.
And now mocking a woman's suicide.
Stay classy, Parm. :thumbs:
Only.mocking in your head cause you think it's banter..Im ****ing serious and I'm not mocking nowt.
Why have a go at foreign contestants and not british judges who set the rules?
Contestants only enter bc they're allowed to. Why not direct your complaint at those who set the rules?
Silly question..like I'm hm gonna phone Simon Cowell about the matter at hand. .get real eh..
Come off it. Trump wasn't born yesterday. Everybody knows foreign films always compete.
Foreign directors win for foreign films, foreign actors win for foreign films.
It was a racist dog whistle to please his audience.
Ironic for a country of immigrants. His bloody father came from germany not so long ago.
Disgusting
You call him stupid thick, etc etc..but now to bolster your ridiculous point he suddenly turns into super brain
:shrug:
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 11:16 PM
Only.mocking in your head cause you think it's banter..Im ****ing serious and I'm not mocking nowt.
I don't think mocking a woman's suicide is banter in the slightest.
I don't think mocking a woman's suicide is banter in the slightest.
And neither do I. ...
So point out where I'm mocking a womans suicide.when all I'm doing is highlighting the causes of her suicide.which has also been the discussion on tv radio and online ever since.
So again. .show me the mocking to back up your pathetic dig.
Marsh.
21-02-2020, 11:30 PM
So point out where I'm mocking a womans suicide.
Thankfully I'm not famous, cause your reaction could have me doubting myself enough that I want to die.
Stay classy Parm and have a lovely evening.
Stay classy Parm and have a lovely evening.
Can I still rely on your vote in strictly tibb.?
“How bad were the Academy Awards this year?” Trump asked a rally in Colorado Springs, Colorado. The crowd responded with loud boos.
“The winner is a movie from South Korea, what the hell was that all about?” Trump asked. “We got enough problems with South Korea with trade and on top of it, they give them the best movie of the year.”
“Was it good? I don’t know. I’m looking for, like – can we get like Gone With The Wind back, please?” Trump said, to loud cheers.
Much ado about nothing. I don't like the man, but this sounds like his sense of humour and playing to the crowd, nothing more imo.
Twosugars
22-02-2020, 12:33 AM
Much ado about nothing. I don't like the man, but this sounds like his sense of humour and playing to the crowd, nothing more imo.
You mean the crowd finds his racist rants agreeable
Sure, nothing to worry about :umm2:
Let's start worrying when they kill foreigners and then wonder where that came from :facepalm:
Appeasement of racism and xenophobia... if only we had some lessons in history where that leads to... :think:
Oh I know, our grandfathers died fighting fascism so that now it can be reborn, jfc
Marsh.
22-02-2020, 01:26 AM
this sounds like his sense of humour and playing to the crowd, nothing more imo.
Yep, it's both. His sense of humour and playing to the crowd.
That doesn't make it not racist though.
You mean the crowd finds his racist rants agreeable
Sure, nothing to worry about :umm2:
Let's start worrying when they kill foreigners and then wonder where that came from :facepalm:
Appeasement of racism and xenophobia... if only we had some lessons in history where that leads to... :think:
Oh I know, our grandfathers died fighting fascism so that now it can be reborn, jfc
Nope, its a Trump rally so presumably they 'get' his sense of humour (with all his many faults he does have one) and he plays to that. I dislike the man, especially when he disgracefully mocked a disabled person and encouraged violence at his earlier rallies, but I don't read 'racism' into every utterance of his that involves non - whites.
Marsh.
22-02-2020, 02:13 AM
Yes, because the problem isn't racism but the people pointing racism out.
Tom4784
22-02-2020, 02:35 AM
Saying that a film shouldn't have won because that film is South Korean is pretty ****ing racist.
Saying that a film shouldn't have won because that film is South Korean is pretty ****ing racist.
that just not true. As an American president he will be expected to champion all things American. The Oscars is an American award ceremony and so he will be championing American winners,. It's not racist in the least.
It really angers me when people make these blatantly false claims, because it trivialises the occasions when he is being racist. It gives people the excuse/opportunity to support Trump.
Those opposing Trump still haven't realised that doing this type of stuff, and they do it a lot, is actually giving him more supporters ... people never learn
Mystic Mock
22-02-2020, 05:49 AM
I've not seen Parasite so I can't judge it's quality.
But Trump complaining about it's win just because it's South Korean just tells you why he shouldn't be in charge of anything, let alone be President of the most powerful country in the west.
The guy is too childish for my liking, fair enough if he had've at least watched the Film and he didn't like it, but it's clear what his agenda is here.
arista
22-02-2020, 07:08 AM
Yes, because the problem isn't racism but the people pointing racism out.
Yes Left Wingers
AnnieK
22-02-2020, 08:30 AM
Trumps comments have made me want to watch the movie....:laugh:
Whether he is being racist or not he is showing a lack of culture and its seems ludicrous that the PoTUS has such a strong opinion on the winner of aa film Award. Would he have had such a strong reaction if the winner was a British film? I doubt it, certainly not enough to mention it at a rally so I don't think its about he championing all things American
Kazanne
22-02-2020, 09:17 AM
I took that as he just didn't like the film,but there again I have no feelings towards him one way or another and what happened to us all at least TRYING to be nice, I see the daft name calling has slipped into the thread again,as though that is going to change anyones minds. :laugh:
arista
22-02-2020, 09:22 AM
Its a Great Film
showing the Struggle of Life.
South Korea
Something Trump does not want to view
Yes Left WingersThe trouble causers.
user104658
22-02-2020, 12:53 PM
While he is undeniably racist, I would call this example "dumb hyper-patriotism" rather than racism.
He is specifically irked that something "rly American wooooooo!" wasn't the winner, rather thank about it being S Korean. Its a "Only USA would be good enough" statement.
While he is undeniably racist, I would call this example "dumb hyper-patriotism" rather than racism.
He is specifically irked that something "rly American wooooooo!" wasn't the winner, rather thank about it being S Korean. Its a "Only USA would be good enough" statement.It's not undeniable. I deny it.
user104658
22-02-2020, 01:26 PM
It's not undeniable. I deny it.Undeniable by anyone willing to look sensibly at his comments and policies, then, and not just engaging in reactionary tribalism.
Tom4784
22-02-2020, 02:04 PM
that just not true. As an American president he will be expected to champion all things American. The Oscars is an American award ceremony and so he will be championing American winners,. It's not racist in the least.
It really angers me when people make these blatantly false claims, because it trivialises the occasions when he is being racist. It gives people the excuse/opportunity to support Trump.
Those opposing Trump still haven't realised that doing this type of stuff, and they do it a lot, is actually giving him more supporters ... people never learn
We get it, accusations of racism upset you more than racism itself.
It's pretty ****ing racist to believe that something is of a lesser quality because it's Korean and that American products (Read: White, in his view) are inherently better.
People who pretend that they feel 'forced' to support Trump will have always supported him but didn't want to admit it. It's simply not rational or logical to claim otherwise. People don't go 'I don't like Trump but since people are calling him racist, I'm now behind him 100%!' They were just looking for a reason to 'justify' an allegiance they had to him all along.
I'm not going to bend over backwards to hold the hands of such weak creatures who will support a racist because they feel they've had a sleight against them. I also don't accept the bull**** centrist argument that people who oppose Trump are responsible for his dominance, that's entitled centrism if I've ever seen it and we all know that entitled centrists are just Right Wingers that can't admit it to themselves or others.
Tom4784
22-02-2020, 02:07 PM
It's not undeniable. I deny it.
Denying reality doesn't stop it from being so.
Denying reality doesn't stop it from being so.Unfortunately for you, you don't get to make the rules.
Marsh.
22-02-2020, 02:11 PM
Yes Left Wingers
:facepalm:
Crimson Dynamo
22-02-2020, 02:12 PM
Denying reality doesn't stop it from being so.
Perhaps your reality is flawed?
Marsh.
22-02-2020, 02:13 PM
As an American president he will be expected to champion all things American. The Oscars is an American award ceremony and so he will be championing American winners,. It's not racist in the least.
:joker:
Tom4784
22-02-2020, 02:14 PM
Unfortunately for you, you don't get to make the rules.
Reality marches on, it's simply a fact of life.... Unless you're saying you have control over reality and can deny it and thus change it at will?
Denying something doesn't make it less true. Whether you believe in something is irrelevant, it has no bearing on the truth and the facts.
James
22-02-2020, 02:18 PM
It's more like populism because subtitled films - while liked by NY and LA critics, and arthouse fans - don't usually do all that well at the box-office, and don't get wide releases into cinemas.
Although Parasite has done fairly well after its awards success.
Twosugars
22-02-2020, 02:27 PM
It's more like populism because subtitled films - while liked by NY and LA critics, and arthouse fans - don't usually do all that well at the box-office, and don't get wide releases into cinemas.
Although Parasite has done fairly well after its awards success.
It's more than just populism
The lengths some people go to justify trump :laugh:
...I would say that many Oscar winning best movies don’t come under the populism umbrella though, so that wouldn’t really apply...if he stated the reason for mocking it and being derogatory about it in some way as it being a Korean movie...then that is showing prejudice, it’s that simple really...
Marsh.
22-02-2020, 05:13 PM
...I would say that many Oscar winning best movies don’t come under the populism umbrella though, so that wouldn’t really apply...if he stated the reason for mocking it and being derogatory about it in some way as it being a Korean movie...then that is showing prejudice, it’s that simple really...
I agree with this.
Sticks
22-02-2020, 05:43 PM
I think you have all missed one part of what the Trusty Truthful Trump said in his excellent award winning speech.
(Praise so the acolytes of POTUS keep reading) :joker:
"“We got enough problems with South Korea with trade and on top of it, they give them the best movie of the year.”
It seems there may be a trade dispute between the US and South Korea?
So if a country is ripping your economy to shreds through unfair trade practices, and you give it some kind of award over home grown talent, how do workers who may be losing their jobs because of sharp practices over trade by that country feel? To give that country, a top award, is only rubbing salt in, to those workers who may be losing their livelihoods due to this country's sharp practices on trade
Should not the Academy of Film and Television be supporting its own people during this trade dispute rather than this foreign country who is crippling them on trade?
I suspect now that the money men will now go after the Academy bods that made this awards to root out all those who have been disloyal and are probably commies and those secretly supporting this evil country, who is waging an unfair trade was on the Good Old US of A.
Maybe after cleaning house at the Academy of those non patriots, they can revoke that award of best picture and hand it to a good old home grown talent
So not so much racism at all, but protection of the US economy from a country, that appears to the POTUS to be carrying out unfair trade practices.
The Trusty Truthful Trump is only standing up for his country and those who elected him.
Marsh.
22-02-2020, 06:03 PM
It was an award for a film. It's really not that deep.
thesheriff443
22-02-2020, 06:27 PM
People getting so bent out of shape over trump slagging off South Korea.
GoldHeart
22-02-2020, 06:40 PM
People getting so bent out of shape over trump slagging off South Korea.
Pretty sure there's more to it than that.
Shaun
22-02-2020, 06:48 PM
The Oscars is an American award ceremony and so he will be championing American winners,. It's not racist in the least
Yes... I'm sure he was furious when the King's Speech, Gandhi, The Artist, Slumdog Millionaire, Chariots of Fire and Oliver! won. :wink:
It was an award for a film. It's really not that deep.
Just a guy having an opinion and look at the state of it now.
Luckily he ain't fragile...or his mind may wander to other thoughts after reading his twitter feed and the reaction to this.
Marsh.
22-02-2020, 09:53 PM
Just a guy having an opinion and look at the state of it now.
Luckily he ain't fragile...or his mind may wander to other thoughts after reading his twitter feed and the reaction to this.
Parm, I'm really not interested in your mocking of a young woman's suicide, direct those comments at someone else.
Mystic Mock
22-02-2020, 10:20 PM
that just not true. As an American president he will be expected to champion all things American. The Oscars is an American award ceremony and so he will be championing American winners,. It's not racist in the least.
It really angers me when people make these blatantly false claims, because it trivialises the occasions when he is being racist. It gives people the excuse/opportunity to support Trump.
Those opposing Trump still haven't realised that doing this type of stuff, and they do it a lot, is actually giving him more supporters ... people never learn
I think to support Trump you have to be open to his ideology at least a little bit, people can come up with excuses all they want, but I don't buy that people would vote for someone as extreme as Trump just because his detractors point out his extreme viewpoints in their eyes.
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