ANTI-GRETA German teenage climate change denier

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Naomi Seibt, a 19-year-old German YouTube 'influencer' claims to promote 'climate realism' over 'climate alarmism' on YouTube
She will be speaking at CPAC in Washington D.C. and join a libertarian think tank and lobbying group that promotes climate change skepticism
Seibt joined the Heartland Institute's Center on Climate and Environmental Policy in February in order to spread her message
The Heartland Institute is one of the most notorious climate change denial groups in the United States
She has been described as a climate-skeptic answer to Greta Thunberg, 17, the environmental activist from Sweden who inspired international climate protests
Thunberg was named Time Magazine's Person of the Year and has become the face for youth climate action


A teenager who has been dubbed the 'anti-Greta' is to speak at a Republican
convention is Washington D.C. later this week.

German citizen and climate change skeptic, Naomi Seibt, 19, will appear at the
Conservative Political Action Conference known as CPAC in the biggest
annual Republican convention of its type running from Wednesday until
Saturday of this week.

The event will feature Republican lawmakers, officials from the White House
and Trump's re-election campaign, members of the conservative media and
even a speech from the President himself.

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Seibt has been dubbed as the 'anti-Greta' because of her views on climate change

are the polar opposite to those of Swedish environmental campaigner 17-year-old Greta Thunberg.

Seibt's influence is likely to be significantly smaller given that she only has 5,000 Twitter followers
compared to Thunberg's 4 million, however being given the seal of approval by CPAC will surely
help to bolster her prospects.

A YouTube video created by the Heartland Institute, a think tank which firmly rejects climate
change, pitches Seibt against Thunberg.

'I have good news for you. The world is not ending because of climate change,' Seibt says in
the video for the lobbying group.

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Seibt doesn't totally rule out mankind's influence in the planet's climate but
believes that it has been overstated.

'Are man-made CO2 emissions having that much impact on the climate? I think
that's ridiculous to believe,' she said in the Washington Post.

The Heartland Institute said that Seibt was a 'fantastic voice for free markets
and for climate realism.'

'It is important that we keep questioning the narrative that's out there
instead of promoting it,' Seibt said. 'These days, climate change science
really isn't a science at all.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8040469/German-teenage-climate-change-denier-Naomi-Seibt-19-known-anti-Greta-speak-CPAC.html

[Niamh.]

Animals are going extinct though.....

[Crimson Dynamo]

animals are going extinct though.....

yes as part of evolution that has been going on all earths history. more than 99
% of all species, amounting to over five billion species, that ever lived on Earth
are estimated to have died out.

i think like its 100-200 plant animal insects become extinct every day


The rate is the issue

[Cherie]

She sounds so much like Greta, it's eerie

[user104658]

"Do not leave this event with a profound rage against Greta or the protesters or the media. It's about time that we put an end to this depressing Anti Attitude. Rage and panic belong to our opponents."

Wow with this level of double-think she'd fit right in on here :joker:.

[user104658]

Oh FFS she has her PayPal and BANK DETAILS in the video description "if you want to support her". Subtle :facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

queen of self interest while the world burns

[bots]

Heres the thing, there is empirical evidence of ice caps melting and an increase in temperature. What people seem to be missing is that even if it is a natural phenomena we are still ****ed unless we take action to alleviate it, and the only way we can do that is by reducing the emissions that we all know that we create.

[Jordan.]

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Mollycoddling just got it's new poster child

[Kizzy]

'Perhaps global warming isn't that detrimental'. ... where is the science to back that up?

Climate change science isn't really science? What is it then?
This girl has been groomed to be the poster child for the free markets that's obvious

[Alf]

Heres the thing, there is empirical evidence of ice caps melting and an increase in temperature. What people seem to be missing is that even if it is a natural phenomena we are still ****ed unless we take action to alleviate it, and the only way we can do that is by reducing the emissions that we all know that we create.Maybe we can throw a shade over the Sun?

[Livia]

This girl and Greta are two ends of the same scale.

[Tom4784]

It's hysterical how she's utterly rinsing gullible right wingers who fear reality and only want to be told what they want to hear.

Her paypal is right there, hilarious.

[Tom4784]

Also people who deny climate change are as crazy as anti-vaxxers or flat earthers.

[user104658]

It's hysterical how she's utterly rinsing gullible right wingers who fear reality and only want to be told what they want to hear.

Her paypal is right there, hilarious.

I mean it's pretty tempting... I'm not saying I *would* use my daughters as right wing YouTube shills but... you know... they're not really contributing much to the pot at the moment...

[Livia]

I mean it's pretty tempting... I'm not saying I *would* use my daughters as right wing YouTube shills but... you know... they're not really contributing much to the pot at the moment...

That's a great idea TS. How soon can I start Asher do you think...? Maybe wait for his first birthday...

[Oliver_W]

There's room for a middle-ground. I'm a tree hugger but Greta's comical doomsday screeching isn't the way to go. Outright denialism is also ridiculous.

I agree with LT in that they're the two ends of the same scale. Imagine them debating :joker:

[user104658]

That's a great idea TS. How soon can I start Asher do you think...? Maybe wait for his first birthday...

As soon as he says his first word, you can pretend his first word was something hashtaggable and it'll go viral. Baby wisdom...

[Twosugars]

I mean it's pretty tempting... I'm not saying I *would* use my daughters as right wing YouTube shills but... you know... they're not really contributing much to the pot at the moment...

Chimney sweeping out of fashion?

[user104658]

Chimney sweeping out of fashion?

No money in it these days.

[Twosugars]

No money in it these days.

Just as well. Those boys used to get scrotal cancers.

You tube is far safer especially if they go far right. Liberals are not as violent.

[arista]

Be good if they could fight

[Marsh.]

I agree with LT in that they're the two ends of the same scale. Imagine them debating :joker:

I told Liv to shave her tash.

Now look, getting mistaken for Trumpet.

[Crimson Dynamo]

sadly both girls exploited for political tribalism

[Withano]

Having the platform to tell idiots everything they want to hear isn’t a new idea, but it still works.

[Twosugars]

A young campaigner who has been hailed by climate sceptics as the right’s answer to Greta Thunberg has previously described a white nationalist who appeared to promote “white genocide” theories as one of her “inspirations”.

Naomi Seibt, a 19-year-old from Münster, Germany, who styles herself as a “climate realist”, has also had to deny she made remarks that could be seen as antisemitic following an attack on a synagogue last year.

Seibt has been described as the darling of climate change deniers and is due to speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) – a high-profile annual meeting of rightwing activists in Washington that will also feature the US president, Donald Trump.

She has been called a young, fresh voice for “free markets and climate realism” for questioning the scientific consensus on the climate crisis, which she has called “ridiculous”.

“Today climate change science really is not science at all,” Seibt has said. “The goal [of climate scientists] is to shame humanity. Climate change alarmism at its very core is a despicably anti-human ideology and we are told to look down at our achievements with guilt, with shame and disgust, and not even to take into account the many major benefits we have achieved by using fossil fuels as our main energy source.”

An examination of the young activist’s YouTube videos and interviews has revealed that Seibt has shown support for an alt-right activist.

In a YouTube discussion last year that was highlighted in a report by the German broadcaster ZDF, Seibt discussed an attack on a synagogue in Halle that killed two people who were outside the temple, and said Jews were considered to be “at the top” of groups who were seen as being oppressed. “Ordinary Germans”, she said, were “at the bottom”. Muslims, she added, were somewhere in between.

The remarks were part of a video discussion that appears to have been deleted. They were seen by some experts as saying that Germans had less pity for “ordinary German” victims of crime than for Jews and Muslims. A portion of the discussion was included in a report by ZDF and is still available online.

“It is clear that she is articulating – no matter how inarticulately – age-old tropes of Jewish power and white grievance: the idea that Jews are a privileged class and that white people are oppressed by them,” said Imran Ahmed, the chief executive of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, who studied the remarks.

When Seibt was challenged by German reporters about whether the remarks could be seen as antisemitic, Seibt replied: “If someone perceives [my remarks] as meaning something different, well, then of course I cannot influence this perception.”

In another YouTube interview describing her embrace of “views that were outside the mainstream”, Seibt referred to the Canadian alt-right internet activist Stefan Molyneux as an “inspiration”.

Molyneux has been described as an “alleged cult leader who amplifies scientific racism, eugenics and white supremacism” by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors extremism and white supremacy.

Molyneux said in a statement to the Guardian: “I have always opposed the idea of racial superiority/inferiority.”

Seibt declined to respond to requests for comment. Reached by the Guardian, Karoline Seibt, Naomi’s mother, denied her daughter supported the far right.

“She’s not an antisemite. I can guarantee it. She is not on the far right. She is a libertarian,” Karoline Seibt said.

In a follow-up email, she added that her daughter was too busy with interviews to answer the Guardian’s questions about her previous remarks.

“It would be nice if you did not simply copy the dumb assumptions of [the German press], but rather watched Naomi’s videos and calmly wait until Naomi is able to give you time for your questions,” she wrote.

Seibt has been hired by a US thinktank called the Heartland Institute, which has traditionally been financed by fossil fuel and coal companies and is known for pushing radical anti-science theories about the climate crisis.

In 2012, Heartland set up a billboard in Illinois that featured a photograph of the “Unabomber” Ted Kaczynski and the words “I still believe in global warming. Do you?”

The move led to some high-profile defections of corporate sponsors. In another case, the group was criticised for sending hundreds of thousands of “educational pamphlets” to schools across the country that promoted false theories about global heating.

The Mercer Family Foundation, which is run by Rebekah Mercer, a financial donor to Donald Trump and the daughter of the hedge fund mogul Robert Mercer, has previously been one of Heartland’s biggest contributors, with records showing a total of $7.5m in donations since the group’s founding.

Records show that the public backing by the Mercers has waned over the last several years, while another organisation called Donors Trust – and its affiliates – have become Heartland’s primary funder.

Donors Trust and associated organisations have donated more than $20m to Heartland, according to records compiled and analysed by DeSmog, which tracks the funding of climate denying groups. The Mercer Family Foundation is a donor to Donors Trust and its affiliates.

Heartland officials did not respond to multiple requests for comment about Seibt, her previous remarks, or questions about who is funding the campaigner’s work for Heartland. The Mercer Family Foundation did not respond to a request for comment about its support for Heartland.

Brendan DeMelle, the executive director of DeSmog, said Heartland was considered so extreme in Washington that “they can’t even get support any more from Exxon”.

Sheldon Whitehouse, a Democratic senator from Rhode Island who has called for action on the climate crisis, said in a statement to the Guardian: “Even among … climate denial groups, Heartland’s … behaviour and brazen attacks on science stand out.”

Kert Davies, the founder of the Climate Investigations Center, which investigates climate denying groups, said Heartland was promoting a counter-narrative to the environmentalists but would ultimately fail.

“They are trying to ride Greta’s wave, but there is no way this person is going to win hearts and minds the way Greta has,” Davies said. “They are trying to blunt the impact of Greta.”
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/28/naomi-seibt-anti-greta-activist-white-nationalist-inspiration



There we are then.
Suppose it's not much of a surprise

[Crimson Dynamo]

“She’s not an antisemite. I can guarantee it. She is not on the far right. She is a libertarian,” Karoline Seibt said.

But the Guardian chose to believe a guy who does not know her, has never met her and has a huge alt-left agenda?

lol, no wonder its on its ar$e begging readers for hand-outs

:facepalm:

[Twosugars]

Well let readers judge for themselves shall we

She finds a white supremacist inspiring, what a libertarian thinker she must be :laugh:

The whole thing is hilariously bad :laugh2:

Then again a sensible person would never stand up in the face of global scientific consensus and mounting evidence and spout bs like that


A far right darling :laugh3:

[Captain.Remy]

Let the both of them fight it out with a "Rock paper scissors" game and let it be done with it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well let readers judge for themselves shall we

She finds a white supremacist inspiring, what a libertarian thinker she must be :laugh:

The whole thing is hilariously bad :laugh2:

Then again a sensible person would never stand up in the face of global scientific consensus and mounting evidence and spout bs like that


A far right darling :laugh3:

sadly its in the guardian and you have again fallen for them trolling readers for clicks. You are their target audience, they are playing you every day

Its not pleasant but its capitalism I guess

:(

[Twosugars]

sadly its in the guardian and you have again fallen for them trolling readers for clicks. You are their target audience, they are playing you every day

Its not pleasant but its capitalism I guess

:(

Fo sho :thumbs:


:wavey:

[Glenn.]

We don’t need to read papers to realise the girl is a complete idiot.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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