Meghan MARKLE just "five clicks up from TRAILER TRASH"'

[Crimson Dynamo]

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British journalist is cut off in MSNBC Live interview after saying many people consider Meghan Markle just 'five clicks up from trailer trash'

The remark from British reporter Victoria Mather has received backlash online
The show's anchor Lindsey Reiser ended the interview quickly after comment
Mather was discussing how Meghan has been 'disrespectful' towards the Queen


A British guest on MSNBC Live has sparked outrage after saying 'many people'
consider Meghan Markle to be 'five clicks up from trailer trash'.

The show's anchor, Lindsey Reiser, ended the interview about Prince Harry and
Meghan stepping back from royal duties immediately following the remark from British reporter Victoria Mather.

The comment from the journalist - who has worked for The Telegraph and Vanity Fair
- came as she was discussing how the Duchess of Sussex has been 'disrespectful' to the royal family and its protocol.

'I think what has really, really upset the British public is that Meghan Markle, who
many people consider as only, you know, five clicks up from trailer trash, has actually tried to disrespect the queen,' she said.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/09/10/25726998-8090989-image-m-7_1583748367587.jpg

And the queen is the most respected person, most respected woman, in the world.'

The comment has sparked outrage since the video went viral, with many saying
remarks like Mather's are the exact reason the royal couple decided to distance themselves from the royal establishment.

Mather was heavily criticized throughout the day, with Twitter users calling her comments 'racist' and 'disgusting.'

In the five-minute interview that preceded the shocking comment Mather said that 'Hollywood celebrity' Meghan didn't want to stay in the royal family because she would be

'second-best' to her sister-in-law Kate Middleton.

She also claimed that Meghan had given Kate a knife for Christmas.

:shocked:


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8090989/British-journalist-says-people-consider-Meghan-Markle-five-clicks-trailer-trash.html

The top DM comment says that this is right and we all know it (4500 up votes at mo)

Do you think the GBP think this?:shrug:

[Alf]

Tea being spilt.

[Niamh.]

The Queen is the most respected person in the world? uummm :umm2: In Britain maybe..............

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Queen is the most respected person in the world? uummm :umm2: In Britain maybe..............

And the commonwealth plus USA

[Niamh.]

And the commonwealth plus USA

The USA? I think that's a bit of delusion there LT, even the commonwealth is a stretch

[Vicky.]

The medias obsession with Markle is so weird.

Who cares if she gave Kate a knife for xmas ffs.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The USA? I think that's a bit of delusion there LT, even the commonwealth is a stretch

Why who do they respect more in the USA?

[Crimson Dynamo]

The medias obsession with Markle is so weird.

Who cares if she gave Kate a knife for xmas ffs.

the media reflect the interest 0f the GBP, if they dont they dont make money

[Vicky.]

the media reflect the interest 0f the GBP, if they dont they dont make money

Some peoples obsession with Markle is so weird then

Apologies :p

[Niamh.]

Why who do they respect more in the USA?

hhhmmm probably someone American I would imagine, why would you think they'd respect some foreign countries monarchy so much? :laugh:

ATA : Bill Gates according to Google :smug:

[Marsh.]

I think what has really, really upset the British public is that Meghan Markle, who*many people consider as only, you know, five clicks up from trailer trash, has actually tried to disrespect the queen,' she said.*




So.... the people who find her "five clicks up from trailer trash" weren't going to like her no matter what. The irony of accusing someone of lacking respect whilst simultaneously ridiculing who she is is exactly what I would expect from this woman and others whose job is to tear people down. Pathetic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

hhhmmm probably someone American I would imagine, why would you think they'd respect some foreign countries monarchy so much? :laugh:

they all love the queen and she has been around for most/all of heir lives and has not put a foot wrong.

I mean it will probably be some hideous hag like Opera but it might be the Queen?

[Niamh.]

they all love the queen and she has been around for most/all of heir lives and has not put a foot wrong.

I mean it will probably be some hideous hag like Opera but it might be the Queen?

Bill gates male/Michelle Obama female

[Niamh.]

So.... the people who find her "five clicks up from trailer trash" weren't going to like her no matter what. The irony of accusing someone of lacking respect whilst simultaneously ridiculing who she is is exactly what I would expect from this woman and others whose job is to tear people down. Pathetic.

Yeah referring to someone as trailer trash is so disrespectful

[Marsh.]

they all love the queen and she has been around for most/all of heir lives and has not put a foot wrong.

I mean it will probably be some hideous hag like Opera but it might be the Queen?

I wouldn't confuse the American thirst for the pageantry and showmanship of Royal life and the celebrity gossip it brings for the pretence of "respect" for any of the Royals, including the Queen.

[Crimson Dynamo]

hhhmmm probably someone American I would imagine, why would you think they'd respect some foreign countries monarchy so much? :laugh:

ATA : Bill Gates according to Google :smug:

he isnt a woman?

[thesheriff443]

Some peoples obsession with Markle is so weird then

Apologies :p

Nice to see you posting.

[Niamh.]

he isnt a woman?

He's not? :o

I literally posted the line "most respected person"

Anyway Michelle Obama, Oprah

[Vicky.]

Nice to see you posting.

Thanks. :p

[Kizzy]

Revolting attitude and comments..not surprised in the slightest they are relished by the readers of the daily heil. :idc:

[MB.]

And the commonwealth plus USA

Absolutely not

[Niamh.]

Revolting attitude and comments..not surprised in the slightest they are relished by the readers of the daily heil. :idc:

All this **** should just be making Harry and Meghan more sure that they were right in their decision

[Crimson Dynamo]

Revolting attitude and comments..not surprised in the slightest they are relished by the readers of the daily heil. :idc:

a lot of commenters are doubting the number is so high (ie 5)

[bots]

The queen isn't the most respected person anywhere, the royal family are not respected at all. People may pretend to respect them, which is a completely different thing.

I don't know Meghan, so I cannot comment on her character at all, but she is educated and she had a good job earning big bucks long before she met Harry.

[Cherie]

Just a nasty comment for anyone to make never mind a journalist during an interview

[Niamh.]

The queen isn't the most respected person anywhere, the royal family are not respected at all. People may pretend to respect them, which is a completely different thing.

I don't know Meghan, so I cannot comment on her character at all, but she is educated and she had a good job earning big bucks long before she met Harry.

It says much much more about the people saying stuff like that actually and then talk of respect in the same breath

[Twosugars]

Coming for her roots hits the new low.
Shows snobbery of the worst kind and exposes hideous prejudice.
All those who jump on that particular bandwagon are human trash, no two ways about it.

[SherzyK]

The real Queen of England :love:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESYj35CWsAAG7Ja?format=jpg&name=large

[jet]

no one hates her, but i think many see her as fake and devious

Indeed many do, including myself. I also see her as self - absorbed, selfish and lacking true empathy.

The 'trailer trash' comment was a stupid one to make, seeing that Meghan was obviously brought up in a loving, good home, where her father was an award winning Hollywood lighting director who sent Meghan to all the best schools and put her through an expensive university. Nowhere close to trailer trash.

The few and far between stupid public comments like this one give some people the opportunity to say 'no wonder they wanted out' when IMO that wasn't the reason Meghan did and neither was the yearning for 'privacy'. :suspect:

[Beso]

The real Queen of England :love:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESYj35CWsAAG7Ja?format=jpg&name=large

Aye and yis can ****ing keep it.

[Glenn.]

Indeed many do, including myself. I also see her as self - absorbed, selfish and lacking true empathy.

The 'trailer trash' comment was a stupid one to make, seeing that Meghan was obviously brought up in a loving, good home, where her father was an award winning Hollywood lighting director who sent Meghan to all the best schools and put her through an expensive university. Nowhere close to trailer trash.

The few and far between stupid public comments like this one give some people the opportunity to say 'no wonder they wanted out' when IMO that wasn't the reason Meghan did and neither was the yearning for 'privacy'. :suspect:

But this is the point I’m making. You assume she is self absorbed, selfish and lacks empathy but unless you know her personally and come to that conclusion you can’t possibly presume to know what she’s like.

It’s like asking someone if they like a food and then saying no even though they’ve never tried it.

[jet]

But this is the point I’m making. You assume she is self absorbed, selfish and lacks empathy but unless you know her personally and come to that conclusion you can’t possibly presume to know what she’s like.

It’s like asking someone if they like a food and then saying no even though they’ve never tried it.

Well, you don't know me personally either and you assume I'm a hater and obsessed. So you can't possibly presume to know what I'm like.
Especially as all you know of me is words on a forum whereas Markle's insensitive and self absorbed actions are well known by anyone who doesn't refuse to acknowledge them.

[Beso]

No, no it doesn’t :)

Does it make her her daddies wallet..(drunken ramble)been munching on that for years..now that's dried up though she has tonch(dunno) on a new wallet..

[jet]

Does it make her her daddies wallet..(drunken ramble)been munching on that for years..now that's dried up though she has tonch(dunno) on a new wallet..

:hee:
She's been using men all her life to get where she wants to go. Her Uncle, her Father, her first husband, and now Harry. What a feminist. When she got what she needed from them, she cast them out of her life.
Will Harry be next or has she climbed as high as she can go....

[Glenn.]

Well, you don't know me personally either and you assume I'm a hater and obsessed. So you can't possibly presume to know what I'm like.
Especially as all you know of me is words on a forum whereas Markle's insensitive and self absorbed actions are well known by anyone who doesn't refuse to acknowledge them.

No but your posts are enough for me to come to that conclusion

[jet]

No but your posts are enough for me to come to that conclusion

And Meghans actions are enough for me and many others besides to come to our conclusions.

She hasn't dropped from 3rd fav Royal 18 months ago to 10th in most polls for nothing.

[Beso]

:hee:
She's been using men all her life to get where she wants to go. Her Uncle, her Father, her first husband, and now Harry. What a feminist. When she got what she needed from them, she cast them out of her life.
Will Harry be next or has she climbed as high as she can go....




She's climbed as high as she can goin my opinion. .

That's why she's hibernated them all to Canada. We will be drip fed photos no doubt when the bills need paid...people will say how lovely she looks in her stunning red dress walking her dogs in the woods with the wee one perched upon harrys shoulders in an identical blue suit to his fathers.

[GoldHeart]

what the hell is "five clicks up from trailer trash" ?? :sleep: , I'm pretty sure Meghan is doing just fine with Harry .

[Amy Jade]

This repulsive woman should be barred from the telly she's a nasty cow.

[arista]

The real Queen of England :love:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESYj35CWsAAG7Ja?format=jpg&name=large


She is well younger than Our Queen.

But Meg lacks Gravitas

[Ammi]

....the dignity she always shows through all of the spite she gets thrown at her...she just rises above it, even though these things can’t possibly not cause hurt... that’s some classy trailer park she represents for sure...:love:...




Her trailer park brings all the tabloids to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to charge
Her trailer brings all the tabloids to the yard
And they're like, it's better than yours
Damn right it's better than yours
I can teach you, but I have to charge...

[arista]

Piers Morgan
says you can have your opinion
but its fair to criticize Meghan.


GMBHD itv Live

[Jordan.]

This charming lady would be so lucky to see a trailer, hopefully she skulked back under her bridge after this.

[The Slim Reaper]

Even if she was born in a trailer in hicktown, hicksville, hickabama, so what? No one is responsible for the economic conditions their parents provided, either good or bad.

[Ammi]

...all of the fine qualities she shows when she never shows the spite to others that is shown to her...those qualities come from within the person she is...

[thesheriff443]

...all of the fine qualities she shows when she never shows the spite to others that is shown to her...those qualities come from within the person she is...

That’s the public image, I’m sure she is less than polite behind closed doors.

Trailer park comment was reference to class and breeding.

From the very start they started going against tradition so it’s no wonder they got some back lash.

[The Slim Reaper]

That’s the public image, I’m sure she is less than polite behind closed doors.

Trailer park comment was reference to class and breeding.

From the very start they started going against tradition so it’s no wonder they got some back lash.

How are you sure about something you have no way of knowing?

[thesheriff443]

How are you sure about something you have no way of knowing?

The same way people say the sun shines out of her arse.

[The Slim Reaper]

The same way people say the sun shines out of her arse.

Making up one thing people aren't saying at all, isn't the same as being "sure" about something there is no way you could possibly know.

[thesheriff443]

Making up one thing people aren't saying at all, isn't the same as being "sure" about something there is no way you could possibly know.

All opinions on her and Harry negative or positive are just opinions not facts

I’m not saying they are facts.

People make out she is a saint, she ain’t she is just a woman.

[The Slim Reaper]

All opinions on her and Harry negative or positive are just opinions not facts

I’m not saying they are facts.

People make out she is a saint, she ain’t she is just a woman.

I think you're mistaking people defending her against an onslaught of unnecessary abuse, for making out she's a saint.

People are entitled to like or dislike her; some people have the kind of faces that completely rub me the wrong way (snooker player shaun murphy is the main one - I would never tire of punching that face), but I don't have to pretend there are valid reasons for me feeling like that.

[arista]

All opinions on her and Harry negative or positive are just opinions not facts

I’m not saying they are facts.

People make out she is a saint, she ain’t she is just a woman.


Yes Good Points

[Crimson Dynamo]

'She looks like a Cheshire cat': Piers Morgan blasts Meghan Markle who
has 'got everything she wants' despite Prince Harry and Prince William 'at war'
over Megxit... as he asks 'what would Diana think?


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/10/08/25771062-8094747-image-a-1_1583827451425.jpg


Piers Morgan launched a scathing criticism of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry
Good Morning Britain host hit out at pair for failing to 'earn respect' from public
Comes as the pair get set to fly back to Canada to reunite with their son Archie
They will soon bow out of royal duties and embrace their new life in America



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8094747/Piers-Morgan-blasts-Meghan-Markle-got-wants.html

Top Comment: - Hey Piers, Meghan from day 1 had this planned
all out. This is not a shock to anyone. Look what she did to her first husband
and to her father. The Royal Family mean nothing to her. Its all about Meghan
and only her.

[armand.kay]

i come back here after a while and she's still the hot topic i'm-

[armand.kay]

literal obsession

[Amy Jade]

Piers Morgsn looking down on Meghan all the time is so rich when he had dead kids parents phones tapped. He's absolutely disgusting.

[Niamh.]

Piers Morgsn looking down on Meghan all the time is so rich when he had dead kids parents phones tapped. He's absolutely disgusting.

mmmhhmmm

Are Harry and William really "at war"? fgs

[arista]

'She looks like a Cheshire cat': Piers Morgan blasts Meghan Markle who
has 'got everything she wants' despite Prince Harry and Prince William 'at war'
over Megxit... as he asks 'what would Diana think?


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/10/08/25771062-8094747-image-a-1_1583827451425.jpg


Piers Morgan launched a scathing criticism of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry
Good Morning Britain host hit out at pair for failing to 'earn respect' from public
Comes as the pair get set to fly back to Canada to reunite with their son Archie
They will soon bow out of royal duties and embrace their new life in America



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8094747/Piers-Morgan-blasts-Meghan-Markle-got-wants.html

Top Comment: - Hey Piers, Meghan from day 1 had this planned
all out. This is not a shock to anyone. Look what she did to her first husband
and to her father. The Royal Family mean nothing to her. Its all about Meghan
and only her.


Best Post of the Day
LT

[Crimson Dynamo]

mmmhhmmm

Are Harry and William really "at war"? fgs

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/09/23/25753746-8093269-Parting_of_the_ways_The_four_royals_at_Westminster _Abbey_for_the-m-7_1583798183209.jpg

neem look at Markle here loving the whole thing and harry's face tells you all you need to know. Also see how Camilla is still absolutely raging

[Marsh.]

I think you're mistaking people defending her against an onslaught of unnecessary abuse, for making out she's a saint.

People are entitled to like or dislike her; some people have the kind of faces that completely rub me the wrong way (snooker player shaun murphy is the main one - I would never tire of punching that face), but I don't have to pretend there are valid reasons for me feeling like that.

:clap1:

[Marsh.]

'She looks like a Cheshire cat': Piers Morgan blasts Meghan Markle who
has 'got everything she wants' despite Prince Harry and Prince William 'at war'
over Megxit... as he asks 'what would Diana think?


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/03/10/08/25771062-8094747-image-a-1_1583827451425.jpg


Piers Morgan launched a scathing criticism of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry
Good Morning Britain host hit out at pair for failing to 'earn respect' from public
Comes as the pair get set to fly back to Canada to reunite with their son Archie
They will soon bow out of royal duties and embrace their new life in America



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8094747/Piers-Morgan-blasts-Meghan-Markle-got-wants.html

Top Comment: - Hey Piers, Meghan from day 1 had this planned
all out. This is not a shock to anyone. Look what she did to her first husband
and to her father. The Royal Family mean nothing to her. Its all about Meghan
and only her.

"What would Diana think?"

Don't think that's Piers Morgan's place to ask. Pretty sure her own son would know more than an agenda driven insufferable TV presenter.

[arista]

"insufferable TV presenter."


He is Number 1
of all early AM TV

[Marsh.]

Statement: "Meghan was raised by a good and loving father"

Proof: He was a Hollywood lighting director.

Jdjdjdj

[Marsh.]

"insufferable TV presenter."


He is Number 1
of all early AM TV

Nothing to do with what I said but whatever.

[Niamh.]

"What would Diana think?"

Don't think that's Piers Morgan's place to ask. Pretty sure her own son would know more than an agenda driven insufferable TV presenter.

What a ****-ish thing to say, for both Harry and William

[Livia]

How come this thread was about a comment about Meghan, and it's led to post after post about how this Queen is not respected?

The Queen is very much respected in the USA. It's impossible to quantify respect though. And really, Meghan had no respect for the life she was marrying in to. It's good they've gone...

[Niamh.]

How come this thread was about a comment about Meghan, and it's led to post after post about how this Queen is not respected?

The Queen is very much respected in the USA. It's impossible to quantify respect though. And really, Meghan had no respect for the life she was marrying in to. It's good they've gone...

It was picking up a line in the article, where she said the Queen was the most respected person in the world......sorry but the whole world? That's a bit of a large claim

[Marsh.]

What a ****-ish thing to say, for both Harry and William

Completely agree. It nobody else's place but her family's to make such comments.

[Alf]

But you don’t know Meghan personally to come to that conclusion. All you based your conclusion on is media stories.

You hate Meghan because the media hate Meghan. As you do not and have never known her you can’t presume to know that she’s gonna do this and she’s doing that.Now do Katie Hopkins.

Next time you see a forum member talking trash of Katie Hopkins, pull them up on it with same enthusiasn.

[The Slim Reaper]

Now do Katie Hopkins.

Next time you see a forum member talking trash of Katie Hopkins, pull them up on it with same enthusiasn.

Katie Hopkins has made loads of publicly racist statements though. What has Rachel Zane ever said that's equally offensive?

[Marsh.]

Now do Katie Hopkins.

Next time you see a forum member talking trash of Katie Hopkins, pull them up on it with same enthusiasn.

You mean Katie Hopkins who is judged on what she says and does in public?

That's not comparable to people pretending they know what Meghan does and says behind closed doors.

[Alf]

You mean Katie Hopkins who is judged on what she says and does in public?

That's not comparable to people pretending they know what Meghan does and says behind closed doors.So you win, do you? Your way or no way, is it?

[jet]

I think you're mistaking people defending her against an onslaught of unnecessary abuse, for making out she's a saint.

People are entitled to like or dislike her; some people have the kind of faces that completely rub me the wrong way (snooker player shaun murphy is the main one - I would never tire of punching that face), but I don't have to pretend there are valid reasons for me feeling like that.

There are many valid reasons, some just don’t want to acknowledge them.

For instance, at the finale of their tour of Africa, after witnessing horrific poverty and learning about the daily rape of young girls and children in Angola still getting their limbs blown off, Meghan told Tom Bradby of her stuggles and how hard her life was with trembling lips and doe eyes.

Standing in one of the world’s poorest countries, the finale and focus of their documentary wasn’t Meghan emphasizing with the hardships and struggles of unfortunate people of that country, it was about poor her.
That self absorbed insensitivity is a recurring theme with Meghan and was a turning point for many who had previously defended her.
There is a time and a place for everything, especially when the world’s eyes are on you. How wrapped up in herself and selfish is she that she was blind to how that would be perceived by the majority of decent people?

[Marsh.]

You mean in an interview when she was specfically asked a question about all the sh*t that had been thrown at her from the UK media?

Using her response to the backlash as a reason for the backlash in retrospect does not work.

[jet]

Katie Hopkins has made loads of publicly racist statements though. What has Rachel Zane ever said that's equally offensive?

I wonder do some people look upon Meghan as the person Rachel Zane was. (I never watched Suits, so I don't know what she was like on it). :hee:

[The Slim Reaper]

There are many valid reasons, some just don’t want to acknowledge them.

For instance, at the finale of their tour of Africa, after witnessing horrific poverty and learning about the daily rape of young girls and children in Angola still getting their limbs blown off, Meghan told Tom Bradby of her stuggles and how hard her life was with trembling lips and doe eyes.

Standing in one of the world’s poorest countries, the finale and focus of their documentary wasn’t Meghan emphasizing with the hardships and struggles of unfortunate people of that country, it was about poor her.
That self absorbed insensitivity is a recurring theme with Meghan and was a turning point for many who had previously defended her.
There is a time and a place for everything, especially when the world’s eyes are on you. How wrapped up in herself and selfish is she that she was blind to how that would be perceived by the majority of decent people?

At some point, even the folks writing this stuff must realise how deranged this reads. Why are we holding a young woman with a new family to standards we don't hold pm's or presidents to?

[Marsh.]

So you win, do you? Your way or no way, is it?

Win what? :laugh:

You just compared people criticising a woman for what she says in public to a woman being criticised for who people think she is behind closed doors but don't actually know.

That's just a fact.

[Niamh.]

At some point, even the folks writing this stuff must realise how deranged this reads. Why are we holding a young woman with a new family to standards we don't hold pm's or presidents to?

Great question

[jet]

You mean in an interview when she was specfically asked a question about all the sh*t that had been thrown at her from the UK media?

Using her response to the backlash as a reason for the backlash in retrospect does not work.

The interview was set up with Tom Bradby, Harry's friend, specifically for the purpose. Tom Bradby said so himself. He advised them against it but they wouldn't listen, as usual.
If it had been otherwise, a decent person would have answered that they had nothing to complain about after the horror they had witnessed.

[The Slim Reaper]

I wonder do some people look upon Meghan as the person Rachel Zane was. (I never watched Suits, so I don't know what she was like on it). :hee:

I think most people generally understand the differences between actors careers and their home lives, unless this is your way of telling me that Robert Downey Jr really did have a metal suit....

[Alf]

Win what? :laugh:

You just compared people criticising a woman for what she says in public to a woman being criticised for who people think she is behind closed doors but don't actually know.

That's just a fact.Our taxes paid for her multi million pound wedding. People have a right criticise her when she runs away from her duty.

[Marsh.]

Our taxes paid for her multi million pound wedding. People have a right criticise her when she runs away from her duty.

So in the first sentence she's criticised for having a tax payer funded wedding. In the second she's criticised for living a life not funded by the tax payer.

Ok Alf.

You're also assuming she is being criticised solely for giving up Royal duties. Ignoring the fact it started long before that

[bots]

Meghan is entitled to live her life as she wants, say what she wants when she wants. I didn't agree with how they handled their exit announcement ... but that's the extent of it ... i don't think that warrants a minute analysis of everything she has ever said or done.

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

[Marsh.]

Meghan is entitled to live her life as she wants, say what she wants when she wants. I didn't agree with how they handled their exit announcement ... but that's the extent of it ... i don't think that warrants a minute analysis of everything she has ever said or done.

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

Good post.

[AnnieK]

Meghan is entitled to live her life as she wants, say what she wants when she wants. I didn't agree with how they handled their exit announcement ... but that's the extent of it ... i don't think that warrants a minute analysis of everything she has ever said or done.

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

:clap1:

[Niamh.]

Meghan is entitled to live her life as she wants, say what she wants when she wants. I didn't agree with how they handled their exit announcement ... but that's the extent of it ... i don't think that warrants a minute analysis of everything she has ever said or done.

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

Truth, great post BOTS

[jet]

At some point, even the folks writing this stuff must realise how deranged this reads. Why are we holding a young woman with a new family to standards we don't hold pm's or presidents to?

That young woman is nearly 40. There is nothing deranged about not liking this kind of self absorpion, no matter who has done it - pm, president or Joe Bloggs.
If you think her behaviour was fine, okay. Your perogative. :shrug:

[jet]

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

If that approach was widespread, there wouldn't be much left to post about or read on this forum....and what was left would be all sunshine and rainbows and puppies.
If that is what some want, what are they doing here. :laugh:

[Marsh.]

If that approach was widespread, there wouldn't be much left to post about or read on this forum....and what was left would be all sunshine and rainbows and puppies.
If that is what some want, what are they doing here. :laugh:

Or rather stick to criticising what you know and can see.

[The Slim Reaper]

That young woman is nearly 40. There is nothing deranged about not liking this kind of self absorpion, no matter who has done it - pm, president or Joe Bloggs.
If you think her behaviour was fine, okay. Your perogative. :shrug:

I don't spend too much time giving them any thought whatsoever. I just think they should be allowed to get on with their lives without folks taking snippets of what they say, then using that to build up an imaginary world filled with imaginary conversations and actions around them.

[jet]

I don't spend too much time giving them any thought whatsoever. I just think they should be allowed to get on with their lives without folks taking snippets of what they say, then using that to build up an imaginary world filled with imaginary conversations and actions around them.

What imaginary conversations are you talking about? I'm confused as to the relevance of addressing this to me. My post was about the African interview, nothing else.

[The Slim Reaper]

What imaginary conversations are you talking about? I'm confused as to the relevance of addressing this to me. My post was about the African interview, nothing else.

You said, and I quote "If you think her behaviour was fine, okay." My point was just that I don't really care, but the people that really dislike her, pretend she's this Machiavellian demigod.

As an example:

Top Comment: - Hey Piers, Meghan from day 1 had this planned
all out. This is not a shock to anyone. Look what she did to her first husband
and to her father. The Royal Family mean nothing to her. Its all about Meghan
and only her.

[Liam-]

Piers asking “what would Diana think?” After slagging her off and slandering her whenever he gets the chance and taking every opportunity to try and make one of her sons life hell for standing up for his family is utterly laughable.
Hypocritical., opportunistic bellend.

[The Slim Reaper]

Piers asking “what would Diana think?” After slagging her off and slandering her whenever he gets the chance and taking every opportunity to try and make one of her sons life hell for standing up for his family is utterly laughable.
Hypocritical., opportunistic bellend.

I think Diana would be supportive of an outsider, treated appallingly by the press and in a mixed race relationship.

[Alf]

Who cares what Diana would have thought, she was trash as well.

[Marsh.]

Who cares what Diana would have thought, she was trash as well.

Clearly Piers Morgan.

[Liam-]

I think Diana would be supportive of an outsider, treated appallingly by the press and in a mixed race relationship.

A supportive Mother-in-law, we would have had to stan

[jet]

You said, and I quote "If you think her behaviour was fine, okay." My point was just that I don't really care, but the people that really dislike her, pretend she's this Machiavellian demigod.

As an example:

Quote:
Top Comment: - Hey Piers, Meghan from day 1 had this planned
all out. This is not a shock to anyone. Look what she did to her first husband
and to her father. The Royal Family mean nothing to her. Its all about Meghan
and only her.


What is wrong with anyone coming to that opinion from all that they see, hear and read?
Just as someone might form the opinion that its all nonsense and she is a wonderful, caring person?
Or someone else isn't interested at all and knows little about her or what she has or hasn't done?

Everyone has a right to their opinion. I might love someone that you don't.

'One man's meat is another man's poison'. :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

If people want to find fault, look around, it's the easiest thing in the world to be critical, it can be applied to absolutely everything and everyone around us. From my own perspective, I find it a lot less stressful to find the good in things rather than the bad and I will try and remain that way

Andrew like many of the other royals has been an unpleasant arsehole for decades. People don't like him, they aren't interested in him. People did like Meghan until she started behaving like a spoilt brat, so they feel more disappointed in her.


:idc:

[Marsh.]

:idc:

:o

[Niamh.]

Comparing Meghan now to a paedo sympathiser (at the very least)

[thesheriff443]

:idc:

:hehe:

[bots]

:idc:

as i said, it's the easiest thing in the world to find fault :idc:

[The Slim Reaper]

Quote:


What is wrong with anyone coming to that opinion from all that they see, hear and read?
Just as someone might form the opinion that its all nonsense and she is a wonderful, caring person?
Or someone else isn't interested at all and knows little about her or what she has or hasn't done?

Everyone has a right to their opinion. I might love someone that you don't.

'One man's meat is another man's poison'. :hee:

Because it's absolutely mental.

[Alf]

as i said, it's the easiest thing in the world to find fault :idc::clap1:

Great post

[jet]

Because it's absolutely mental.

Absolutely mental = Opinion I don't agree with.

[The Slim Reaper]

Absolutely mental = Opinion I don't agree with.

It's not about the opinion. The opinion part is that person not liking the new peoples princess. The absolutely mental bit is the story creation to go along with it.

It was her plan from the start...

[Niamh.]

It's not about the opinion. The opinion part is that person not liking the new peoples princess. The absolutely mental bit is the story creation to go along with it.

It was her plan from the start...

If you were a cynical person and believed that she doesn't actually love Harry and had a plan in mind by marrying him, the most believable one would be that she wanted to become a "princess". A plan of wanting to marry him and then break up the royal family and move to Canada is a bit far fetched and pretty psychopathic to be quite frank

[jet]

Another example of selfishness and insensitivity was the way they broke their news of leaving. They didn’t inform the Queen beforehand, releasing their intentions on Instagram. The Queen found out when she got a phone call from someone to look at it on her ipad!!! - 10 minutes before it went out on all the news channels.

As if the woman hadn’t enough to worry about with her husband’s rapidly declining health and the Andrew scandal. She is his 93 yr old grandmother ffs.
The lack of respect and the lack of empathy was disgusting.

They could have worked out their plans with the Queen and other senior Royals, taking their time to get it right and release the news properly - not cause a whole ruckus in the Palace and in the media.
Once again, there is a time and place for everything. But it’s “I want it my way and I want it now”!

[Niamh.]

Imagine having to run every choice you make in life as an adult by your granny though? I know, I know, it's not the same as normal families but it's weird as **** all the same

[The Slim Reaper]

If you were a cynical person and believed that she doesn't actually love Harry and had a plan in mind by marrying him, the most believable one would be that she wanted to become a "princess". A plan of wanting to marry him and then break up the royal family and move to Canada is a bit far fetched and pretty psychopathic to be quite frank

She had to switch up her plan because apparently a beefeater caught her in flagrante with Prince Charles so the only way they could avoid it leaking to the press was for them to move to Canada, which is where all the beef with Camilla started. The instagram pics things was just another cover story put out there to protect Meghan.

[Marsh.]

If you were a cynical person and believed that she doesn't actually love Harry and had a plan in mind by marrying him, the most believable one would be that she wanted to become a "princess". A plan of wanting to marry him and then break up the royal family and move to Canada is a bit far fetched and pretty psychopathic to be quite frank

Yeah this.

Surely she'd relish the Princess life, the free trips, housing, money etc.

But it seems "her plan all along" was to get married and gor them to raise their baby where they want. :shrug:

[jet]

If you were a cynical person and believed that she doesn't actually love Harry and had a plan in mind by marrying him, the most believable one would be that she wanted to become a "princess". A plan of wanting to marry him and then break up the royal family and move to Canada is a bit far fetched and pretty psychopathic to be quite frank

I don’t think many people think she doesn’t love Harry, or at least care for him. I know many people think she came into the Royal family believing she could do the job for a while and then find a way to keep her new status and all the trappings and get Harry back to the States with her. No way was she going to live a life of ribbon cutting and visiting schools etc - she relishes the LA celebrity life. So many predicted it not long after their marriage. Then it happened….

[The Slim Reaper]

I don’t think many people think she doesn’t love Harry, or at least care for him. I know many people think she came into the Royal family believing she could do the job for a while and then find a way to keep her new status and all the trappings and get Harry back to the States with her. No way was she going to live a life of ribbon cutting and visiting schools etc - she relishes the LA celebrity life. So many predicted it not long after their marriage. Then it happened….

:joker:

[Marsh.]

Keeping their status and all the trappings and live in LA.

Is proven right by them.... NOT keeping their status and all the trappings and living in Canada?

[jet]

"Another"?

Their method of leaving is literally the only criticism you're willing to discuss as you "don't wish to write a novel" about anything else.

The 'poor me' on the African tour?

I can drip post many more over time if you want...do you?

[jet]

:joker:

Very telling when that is all you can highlight from the post.

[AnnieK]

The 'poor me' on the African tour?

I can drip post many more over time if you want...do you?

To be fair, they highlighted a lot on that tour - it was one small interview at the end of the TV programme where she said she was having a hard time. Maybe other new mums may have looked and thought "you know what, there is a princess and she has all she could ever need but she's had a baby and is struggling, just like me"?

[The Slim Reaper]

Very telling when that is all you can highlight from the post.

The rest isn't as funny.

[jet]

Keeping their status and all the trappings and live in LA.

Is proven right by them.... NOT keeping their status and all the trappings and living in Canada?

Yes, they thought they could keep their status, their titles and most of their income to boot.
They said so in their disastrous Instagram 'we're leaving' post. Did you ever read it? The Queen soon told them otherwise. So things have went awry for them.

They will have a house in LA before the year is out. Watch this space.

[Marsh.]

The 'poor me' on the African tour?

I can drip post many more over time if you want...do you?

Drip post?

If you need time to think and invent inbetween then feel free. I don't care either way the time between each post. :shrug:

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes, they thought they could keep their status, their titles and most of their income to boot.
They said so in their disastrous Instagram 'we're leaving' post. Did you ever read it? The Queen soon told them otherwise. So things have went awry for them.

They will have a house in LA before the year is out. Watch this space.

I don't follow the news around these 2, but that's a pretty open secret. Writing it like that, so you can try and come back when they end up in California to say I told you so is a bit cringey.

[Marsh.]

Yes, they thought they could keep their status, their titles and most of their income to boot.
They said so in their disastrous Instagram 'we're leaving' post. Did you ever read it? The Queen soon told them otherwise. So things have went awry for them.

They will have a house in LA before the year is out. Watch this space.

Apparently she told the Queen there was a hideous crack in her china too.

[Marsh.]

I don't follow the news around these 2, but that's a pretty open secret. Writing it like that, so you can try and come back when they end up in California to say I told you so is a bit cringey.

"Rich couple will have multiple homes in some of the richest hotspots around the globe - including countries they are actually from" is not exactly predicting the lottery numbers. :laugh:

[jet]

I don't follow the news around these 2, but that's a pretty open secret. Writing it like that, so you can try and come back when they end up in California to say I told you so is a bit cringey.

I was replying to Marsh to watch this space, who said they were living in Canada and pretended he didn't know anything about any other plans, even though as you say, its an open secret.

[Marsh.]

I was replying to Marsh to watch this space, who said they were living in Canada and pretended he didn't know anything about any other plans, even though as you say, its an open secret.

Pretended he didn't know? What? :joker:

Do I need to post their biography or I'm pretending I didn't know something?

Actually, a biography might be helpful. Could help people sort information between "happened and not happened".

[jet]

To be fair, they highlighted a lot on that tour - it was one small interview at the end of the TV programme where she said she was having a hard time. Maybe other new mums may have looked and thought "you know what, there is a princess and she has all she could ever need but she's had a baby and is struggling, just like me"?

"me" doesn't have nanny's and chauffeurs and cleaners at their beck and call....and no long waiting list for mental health issues if 'me' is suffering despite all that and needs to talk.
Come on now.
And would 'me' focus on myself and my 'struggles' at the end of a tour after seeing horrific poverty and sights?
Would YOU Annie?

[Marsh.]

"me" doesn't have nanny's and chauffeurs and cleaners at their beck and call....and no long waiting list for mental health issues if 'me' is suffering despite all that and needs to talk.
Come on now.
And would 'me' focus on myself and my 'struggles' at the end of a tour after seeing horrific poverty and sights?
Would YOU Annie?

Plenty non princesses have nannys and chauffeurs, yes.

Plenty non princesses pay for private healthcare.

Not sure why those things are being listed as reasons she can't be suffering. This "money and fame = no suffering" is quite a prevalent belief on this forum. It's bizarre.

The documentary was as much about them as Royals as it was about their tour.

[Niamh.]

Plenty non princesses have nannys and chauffeurs, yes.

Plenty non princesses pay for private healthcare.

Not sure why those things are being listed as reasons she can't be suffering. This "money and fame = no suffering" is quite a prevalent belief on this forum. It's bizarre.

The documentary was as much about them as Royals as it was about their tour.

Honestly couldn't imagine living that lifestyle. From a personal point of view I would hate it. Constantly being watched, followed and judged, not allowed feel sad or down because you have a nanny and are never hungry

[The Slim Reaper]

Honestly couldn't imagine living that lifestyle. From a personal point of view I would hate it. Constantly being watched, followed and judged, not allowed feel sad or down because you have a nanny and are never hungry

I'm sure you'd still Love Gav though, or at least care for him :smug:

[Marsh.]

I'm sure you'd still Love Gav though, or at least care for him :smug:

:laugh2:

[AnnieK]

"me" doesn't have nanny's and chauffeurs and cleaners at their beck and call....and no long waiting list for mental health issues if 'me' is suffering despite all that and needs to talk.
Come on now.
And would 'me' focus on myself and my 'struggles' at the end of a tour after seeing horrific poverty and sights?
Would YOU Annie?

It was one very small part answering a specific question. Post natal issues affect many people and highlighting that could help scores of people in the UK to know that it is actually OK to be not OK and talking about it is allowed.
We all know the extent of the poverty and conditions in Africa due to documentaries like this but it doesn't make ones own problems go away and if it helped one mum struggling to hear that even with everything you say Meghan has at her disposal she is still struggling, it could just be the difference in one person seeking help here at home and that can only be a good thing :shrug:

[jet]

Plenty non princesses have nannys and chauffeurs, yes.

Plenty non princesses pay for private healthcare.

Not sure why those things are being listed as reasons she can't be suffering. This "money and fame = no suffering" is quite a prevalent belief on this forum. It's bizarre.

The documentary was as much about them as Royals as it was about their tour.

Why do you pretend to not see parts of posts, you often do that:

and no long waiting list for mental health issues if 'me' is suffering despite all that and needs to talk.

Most young mothers can't afford nanny's and cleaners and have immediate access to mental health specalists.

[Marsh.]

Why do you pretend to not see parts of posts, you often do that:

and no long waiting list for mental health issues if 'me' is suffering despite all that and needs to talk.

Most young mothers can't afford nanny's and cleaners and have immediate access to mental health specalists.

That doesn't change my response.

Most? Most single mothers or most working class mothers, maybe. But what exactly do you mean by that? That Meghan is lying about struggling because she has a nanny?

You could say to ANYONE "Well, ok, but there are people worse off" there's literally always someone worse off than anyone. It's not really the point and it's only ever brought up to cut down and diminish the actual discussion (you often do that).

[jet]

That doesn't change my response.

Most? Most single mothers or most working class mothers, maybe. But what exactly do you mean by that? That Meghan is lying about struggling because she has a nanny?

You could say to ANYONE "Well, ok, but there are people worse off" there's literally always someone worse off than anyone. It's not really the point and it's only ever brought up to cut down and diminish the actual discussion (you often do that).

You think middle class mothers all have nanny's and cleaners and private health care? :laugh:
I have no idea if Meghan was lying or not, but it wasn't the time or place to make anything be about herself.

You think there was nothing wrong with it, I don't. :shrug:

[Marsh.]

You think middle class mothers all have nanny's and cleaners and private health care? :laugh:

Do you invent stuff in real life too or just on the forum?

My reply was to do with your use of the word "most". I didn't even mention middle class.

[jet]

Do you invent stuff in real life too or just on the forum?

My reply was to do with your use of the word "most". I didn't even mention middle class.

That doesn't make sense.

I said

Most young mothers can't afford nanny's and cleaners and have immediate access to mental health specalists.

You said

Most? Most single mothers or most working class mothers, maybe.




Who are you saying can afford nannys and cleaners then?

[Marsh.]

That doesn't make sense.

I said



You said



Who are you saying can afford nannys and cleaners then?

I didn't say anyone could. I asked you about your use of the word most. It's what the "?" symbol means.

[jet]

I didn't say anyone could. I asked you about your use of the word most. It's what the "?" symbol means.

Not getting you.
What exactly, in plain English, is the problem you have with this line of my post:

Most young mothers can't afford nanny's and cleaners and have immediate access to mental health specalists.

[Marsh.]

Glenn will be pleased. He always says I have given no valid reasons to ‘Hate’ Meghan (which I don’t) and now I have given him two valid reasons (again!) why I dislike her actions and can’t warm to her - the African tour poor me/how they went about leaving the royal family. Both smack to me of insensitivity, self absorption and lack of empathy.

What will happen is, Glenn will not admit these are valid reasons and defend Meghan, and appear to believe that there is nothing wrong in those actions, just like many on this thread have done.

Maybe I don’t like to see elderly grandparents treated with disrespect and privileged people moaning about how bad their life is when they have just witnessed horrific poverty, limbless children and young girls traumatised by rape. My bad.

So Meghan can't answer a question asking how she is, given she'd not long since given birth as they are "priviledged" but you can completely rip the woman to shreds about everything she says and does "on behalf" of Harry's elderly grandparents.... the not so priviledged Queen and Prince Phillip.

:facepalm:

[Marsh.]

Not getting you.
What exactly, in plain English, is the problem you have with this line of my post:

Everything.

Who are "Most young mothers" and what do they have to do with the post you responded to?

I could cry about my house falling down. Being met with "Most Africans have no running water let alone a house" is not relevant or a suitable response.

We're all priviledged in comparison to another group of people. That doesn't change anything, particularly with mental health.

[Niamh.]

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[AnnieK]

Bold Niamh :flutter:

[Marsh.]

Deleted 84 posts in here, next person to get personal or insult another forum member is getting a massive infraction HUGE

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[Glenn.]

Bold Niamh makes this fag go weak at the knees :flutter:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hooligans running roughshod all over my thread :fist:

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[Alf]

Deleted 84 posts in here, next person to get personal or insult another forum member is getting a massive infraction HUGE

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