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Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2020, 07:13 PM
People with OCD, anxiety etc
this must be a BIG issue right now or it could be moving forward?
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Marsh.
10-03-2020, 07:16 PM
You mean for them worrying about it?
Crimson Dynamo
10-03-2020, 07:17 PM
You mean for them worrying about it?
Yes
user104658
10-03-2020, 08:24 PM
Yes and they're talking about suspending community mental health and addiction services as part of "slowing the spread". An absolute disaster waiting to happen for hundreds of thousands of people.
They're talking about giving methodone patients a week's supply at a time to take home (instead of daily supervised) ffs. You might as well shoot them on the spot.
thesheriff443
10-03-2020, 08:43 PM
Yes and they're talking about suspending community mental health and addiction services as part of "slowing the spread". An absolute disaster waiting to happen for hundreds of thousands of people.
They're talking about giving methodone patients a week's supply at a time to take home (instead of daily supervised) ffs. You might as well shoot them on the spot.
Methadone users sell it to buy heroin. That’s why they have to take it in the chemist.
user104658
10-03-2020, 09:00 PM
Methadone users sell it to buy heroin. That’s why they have to take it in the chemist.That's one reason. Another is that taking a double dose will lead to an opiate overdose. And taking it on top of valium (or other sedating drugs) can cause people to simply die in their sleep. The pharmacist has to assess the person when they go in for their methodone to make sure they're in a fit state to take it, and they're supposed to be regularly assessed by their MH nurse to ensure that they don't test positive for other opiates.
If they start handing out week long supplies, there are going to be deaths of all kinds. Suicide by OD, accidental OD because they don't realise how dangerous it is, accidental OD because they just plain forgot that they've already had their daily dose...
Not to mention, deaths aside, OD's will put yet more strain on health services. Its just a flat-out dumb decision. MH and addiction services should be left functioning.
Vicky.
10-03-2020, 09:39 PM
They're talking about giving methodone patients a week's supply at a time to take home (instead of daily supervised) ffs. You might as well shoot them on the spot.
I always thought it was meant to be daily supervised. Until my father in law met his partner. She had an awful time when younger, mix of drugs and prostitution..was on a lot of heroin and is now on boatloads of methadone. She gets it in bottles though, monthly too. Before this, I was sure that sort of thing had to be only given one dose each day. Either her doctor doesnt follow 'rules' (not sure if its a rule of not..) or her healthcare professionals just trust her or something...its weird.
Also when on a big of a binge a while back, she was swapping her methadone for other drugs..which I would expect is quite common, especially if theres a few people who get it as a 6 bottle a month drop off!
thesheriff443
10-03-2020, 09:53 PM
That's one reason. Another is that taking a double dose will lead to an opiate overdose. And taking it on top of valium (or other sedating drugs) can cause people to simply die in their sleep. The pharmacist has to assess the person when they go in for their methodone to make sure they're in a fit state to take it, and they're supposed to be regularly assessed by their MH nurse to ensure that they don't test positive for other opiates.
If they start handing out week long supplies, there are going to be deaths of all kinds. Suicide by OD, accidental OD because they don't realise how dangerous it is, accidental OD because they just plain forgot that they've already had their daily dose...
Not to mention, deaths aside, OD's will put yet more strain on health services. Its just a flat-out dumb decision. MH and addiction services should be left functioning.
I got no pitty for long term drug users, they are a drain on society.
Junkies can get years of help and support and drugs and yet they won’t pay for cancer drugs to prolong a persons life.
Junkies are the living dead, very few ever get clean.
Greg!
10-03-2020, 11:40 PM
It’s stressing me out and getting me down! :(
I was thinking about this earlier actually. .but from a different train of thought.
I was thinking it may have some positive effects...and they may be that it eradicates mental health issues once you have it and get rid of it.
GoldHeart
11-03-2020, 12:40 AM
Well this is the thing, people with OCD already take precautions regarding hygiene & sanitation. But obviously it's to the extreme as they never stop cleaning/ Washing & it affects them psychologically .
So this coronavirus virus outbreak must be driving them mad
Well this is the thing, people with OCD already take precautions regarding hygiene & sanitation. But obviously it's to the extreme as they never stop cleaning/ Washing & it affects them psychologically .
So this coronavirus virus outbreak must be driving them mad
If it was me I would just stand near sinks winking smugly at people as I nod at the sink and them...
Kizzy
11-03-2020, 12:57 AM
I was thinking about this too, it must be their worst nightmare come true :(
Marsh.
11-03-2020, 01:03 AM
I was thinking about this earlier actually. .but from a different train of thought.
I was thinking it may have some positive effects...and they may be that it eradicates mental health issues once you have it and get rid of it.
Are you saying coronavirus will cure depression? :skull:
Are you saying coronavirus will cure depression? :skull:
No...again.
Im saying what went through my head earlier..it was a wishful thought, and one I hoped to be more truer than the actual outcome of all this.
... because of the nature of media and how saturating it is, especially atm ...it’s heartbreaking to see the levels of anxiety in any child who suffers with ‘obsessions’....
user104658
11-03-2020, 08:20 AM
... because of the nature of media and how saturating it is, especially atm ...it’s heartbreaking to see the levels of anxiety in any child who suffers with ‘obsessions’....From what I've seen ALL the kids are obsessed. Not necessarily worried, but they're coming up with some off the wall ideas and rumours because... Well, they're kids.
One my daughter came home with was that "the whole local high school has it because a group went to China". Another was her being convinced she would catch it if she touched our toilet seat (at home, that no one else has used) because that's how you catch it. "Touching toilet seats then touching your face". :think:
From what I've seen ALL the kids are obsessed. Not necessarily worried, but they're coming up with some off the wall ideas and rumours because... Well, they're kids.
One my daughter came home with was that "the whole local high school has it because a group went to China". Another was her being convinced she would catch it if she touched our toilet seat (at home, that no one else has used) because that's how you catch it. "Touching toilet seats then touching your face". :think:
...yeah, obviously it’s a huge talking point in schools as well in terms of hand washing/personal hygiene etc and parents discussing possible school closures and childcare arrangements if that happened...its impossible to not be absorbed....but I’m more looking at specific ‘bad behaviours’ which are heartbreaking to experience because of the link to why the behaviour is happening....
Whenever you get raised anxiety levels and paranoia from a crisis, more people end up dying from that, than the crisis itself, so it should be a big focus. Unfortunately, calming anxiety doesn't sell newspapers
Vicky.
11-03-2020, 10:58 AM
Urban myths going arund the teeage schools. My stepdaughter is conviced her headteacher tested positive months back but kept coming in, was told to close school but refused, etc. This being, even though the first confirmed case in our area not being til last week..
Skye usually worries like hell, but shes just reminding everyone to wash their hands constantly, which has been useful tbh with the others..she won't let anyone eat til they have washed hands and that :D Been trying to drum that into older ones for14 years nw, so glad something goods came from the panic.
James came in the other day telling me about a 'killer flu' thats not making kids poorly but might kill really old people like mammy and daddy. Which was..nice. :laugh:
Oliver_W
11-03-2020, 11:01 AM
tbh this is a "side issue" which should be given more consideration. My mental health has been especially crappy lately. I'm not actively thinking "ohh I'm scared of catching the Kung Flu" but it could be on my subconscious
armand.kay
11-03-2020, 11:20 AM
us depressed dollies winning rn
I'm struggling with it now tbh
AnnieK
11-03-2020, 01:54 PM
From what I've seen ALL the kids are obsessed. Not necessarily worried, but they're coming up with some off the wall ideas and rumours because... Well, they're kids.
One my daughter came home with was that "the whole local high school has it because a group went to China". Another was her being convinced she would catch it if she touched our toilet seat (at home, that no one else has used) because that's how you catch it. "Touching toilet seats then touching your face". :think:
Yeah my sons school friends are all talking about it....he told me they are saying things like "I don't want to lose my dad but he will die as he has asthma" etc.
i'm almost hoping for some brexit discussion :worry:
arista
11-03-2020, 02:25 PM
i'm almost hoping for some Brexit discussion :worry:
Tomorrow , I think
I'm struggling with it now tbh
...Josy...:hug:..
GoldHeart
12-03-2020, 07:55 AM
i'm almost hoping for some brexit discussion :worry:
Shows just how bad things are if you miss the Brexit discussions !!! :skull:
Cherie
12-03-2020, 08:21 AM
It’s stressing me out and getting me down! :(
us depressed dollies winning rn
I'm struggling with it now tbh
Yeah my sons school friends are all talking about it....he told me they are saying things like "I don't want to lose my dad but he will die as he has asthma" etc.
you guys :sad: we do seem to be over bombarded with information that we could live quite well without knowing
I have changed my work radio listening to a music station, cant take any more of the constant virus talk, not even Brexit did this to me
thesheriff443
12-03-2020, 08:41 AM
I'm struggling with it now tbh
Sending love and bog rolls x
Why is the media SO obsessed with it
arista
12-03-2020, 10:00 AM
Why is the media SO obsessed with it
It Sells Papers
gets more watching Live Shows on TV.
Crimson Dynamo
12-03-2020, 10:04 AM
Why is the media SO obsessed with it
because we all are too
Strictly Jake
17-03-2020, 08:30 AM
Although I have been anxious about all of this for the past week I think the past 24 hours have played havoc with my mental health. I keep bursting into tears at work im just pleased that I work by myself otherwise people will wonder whats going on. Im just getting more and more worried about everything. The usual atmosphere of day to day life has gone people are having to act different and we are having to live our lives day by day to hear the next set of instructions
On top of that my wife could give birth at any point I dont know how all of this is going to affect it.
Also I have a cough and I do feel a bit warm but I dont know whether to go off work or to see how the symptoms progress because if it is nothing what if I go back after 7 days and then catch it? Will they allow me to be off again? I just dont know what to do and Im just not in a great place again! I was doing ok for a good few months
Crimson Dynamo
17-03-2020, 08:47 AM
Although I have been anxious about all of this for the past week I think the past 24 hours have played havoc with my mental health. I keep bursting into tears at work im just pleased that I work by myself otherwise people will wonder whats going on. Im just getting more and more worried about everything. The usual atmosphere of day to day life has gone people are having to act different and we are having to live our lives day by day to hear the next set of instructions
On top of that my wife could give birth at any point I dont know how all of this is going to affect it.
Also I have a cough and I do feel a bit warm but I dont know whether to go off work or to see how the symptoms progress because if it is nothing what if I go back after 7 days and then catch it? Will they allow me to be off again? I just dont know what to do and Im just not in a great place again! I was doing ok for a good few months
get a digital thermometer and test yourself to see if you have a fever and do it NOW
caprimint
17-03-2020, 08:48 AM
This is literally why Boris doesn't want the whole country to stop
Cherie
17-03-2020, 09:19 AM
Although I have been anxious about all of this for the past week I think the past 24 hours have played havoc with my mental health. I keep bursting into tears at work im just pleased that I work by myself otherwise people will wonder whats going on. Im just getting more and more worried about everything. The usual atmosphere of day to day life has gone people are having to act different and we are having to live our lives day by day to hear the next set of instructions
On top of that my wife could give birth at any point I dont know how all of this is going to affect it.
Also I have a cough and I do feel a bit warm but I dont know whether to go off work or to see how the symptoms progress because if it is nothing what if I go back after 7 days and then catch it? Will they allow me to be off again? I just dont know what to do and Im just not in a great place again! I was doing ok for a good few months
Jake, go to your manager and tell him you have a cough, and also that your wife is pregnant, I don't think you should be working even if you didn't have a cough because of the pregnancy
Jake, go to your manager and tell him you have a cough, and also that your wife is pregnant, I don't think you should be working even if you didn't have a cough because of the pregnancy
i second that, i would even say, just tell your boss you wont be coming in for the next 7-14 days, it's not something that should be up for discussion
Cherie
17-03-2020, 09:52 AM
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=365800
BOTs kindly found the info I was searching for you Jake
user104658
17-03-2020, 10:33 AM
This is literally why Boris doesn't want the whole country to stop
It comes to something when I find myself, while not exactly entirely agreeing with Boris, definitely seeing where he's coming from. The social and economic impact of Covid, I think we will come to see as time goes by, is going to absolutely dwarf the health impact and the balance has swung HEAVILY in favour of medical advice over socioeconomic advice, because there's a general feeling of "What are you talking about? That stuff doesn't matter right now, we need to save as many lives as possible!".
I fear that, because there's no "test for it", people don't realise just how many lives are going to be lost or ruined in the process.
user104658
17-03-2020, 10:40 AM
i second that, i would even say, just tell your boss you wont be coming in for the next 7-14 days, it's not something that should be up for discussion
The problem is, this really depends on people's economic situation. Not all employers are paying sick leave. Today I had someone tell me that they called in to their work in my lovely old industry - bookmakers, public facing, cash transactions, maily elderly customers :facepalm: - telling them that they had all of the symptoms and should be self-isolating, AND they live in the South of England where cases are highest... ... ... got told "No we're short staffed already, get your arse in, if you do go off we're not paying sick pay".
Now unless the contracts have dramatically changed since I left, that's not even actually true - it would be 2 days no pay then full sick pay - however, his line manager is telling him he won't get paid and basically, many people are just not in the position to be able to say "Oh well never mind". People still need to eat and most people have zero savings :shrug:.
Again I just have to thank bebe jesus that I'm in a small, employee-focussed social enterprise with full ability to work from home now... and not having to navigate this absolute ****-show as a retail manager. I strongly suspect most of the high street will go under anyway.
Nicky91
20-05-2020, 08:39 AM
even though corona does not affect my own life that much, i somehow feel more stressed, easily agitated than normal, also more getting tired possibly of hearing on the news about corona, nothing else than corona
also does not help my parents yelling, arguing at each other (not about me but still not a fun atmosphere i am in)
so yes i find corona affecting me kinda mentally, my apologies if i had not my been usual fun self lately
AnnieK
20-05-2020, 08:55 AM
even though corona does not affect my own life that much, i somehow feel more stressed, easily agitated than normal, also more getting tired possibly of hearing on the news about corona, nothing else than corona
also does not help my parents yelling, arguing at each other (not about me but still not a fun atmosphere i am in)
so yes i find corona affecting me kinda mentally, my apologies if i had not my been usual fun self lately
Aw Nicky, its a challenge for everyone at the moment. Sorry your folks are struggling - it is hard having to spend all your time cooped up together.
You need make no apologies, I am sure pretty much everyone has had low times during this - I can go from loving it to hating it in 0.6 seconds multiple times a day :laugh:
Babayaro.
20-05-2020, 10:37 AM
even though corona does not affect my own life that much, i somehow feel more stressed, easily agitated than normal, also more getting tired possibly of hearing on the news about corona, nothing else than corona
also does not help my parents yelling, arguing at each other (not about me but still not a fun atmosphere i am in)
so yes i find corona affecting me kinda mentally, my apologies if i had not my been usual fun self lately
:love:
sweetie king
Nicky91
09-10-2020, 04:52 PM
giving this a little bump
it does affect me mentally again, i feel way more stressed than normal i must admit
how about anyone else feeling mentally now?
giving this a little bump
it does affect me mentally again, i feel way more stressed than normal i must admit
how about anyone else feeling mentally now?
...:hug:..I know that you absorb the anxieties of your environment and negativity so much, Nicky...
i don't particularly like winter as the UV light gets a lot weaker and the days are shorter. I think a lot of people look forward to Christmas and New Year to get them through it, so it's going to be a challenge for many if that's not going to be a thing. March is a long way off
Nicky91
09-10-2020, 05:01 PM
...:hug:..I know that you absorb the anxieties of your environment and negativity so much, Nicky...
i mean i understand COVID-19 has not got huge fatality percentages
but there is still so much we do not know either on this virus, what makes it dangerous too
but yeah i am trying to be more optimistic, but sometimes i really can't
Kate!
09-10-2020, 05:08 PM
Nicky :hug:
i mean i understand COVID-19 has not got huge fatality percentages
but there is still so much we do not know either on this virus, what makes it dangerous too
but yeah i am trying to be more optimistic, but sometimes i really can't
...it’s difficult I think also for you because of the ever evolving rules and restrictions so it’s hard for you to have structure and routine, which has already been disrupted so much for us all and it’s all continually changing...?..I know that optimism is hard, Nicky...and it’s just trying to counter the more negative thoughts and feelings with focus on something more positive that you have an interest in...(...something that hasn’t been cancelled by COVID-19 ...:laugh:..)...is Halloween a big thing in your family..within your family circle bubble, obviously..?...
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